something new, so it is really hard to tell. but looks like ukrainians are not going to surrender easily. the fighting, we understand, to the north—west of the capital here is intense, it is a street by street. you are convinced that the ukrainian people well, frankly, fight to the death? , ~' ., �* people well, frankly, fight to the death? , ,, ., �* ., death? yes, i think we don't have much choice- _ death? yes, i think we don't have much choice. what _ death? yes, i think we don't have much choice. what can _ death? yes, i think we don't have much choice. what can i - death? yes, i think we don't have much choice. what can i say? - death? yes, i think we don't have| much choice. what can i say? yes. oh, all right, i understand. what you are saying there, marta. thank you are saying there, marta. thank you so much forjoining us, marta shokalo, the editor of the bbc ukrainian service. let's get the perspective from our eastern european correspondence sarah rainsford, who is in dnipro in eastern ukraine. we hear, sarah,
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