said was that labour had been rowing back some of its big plans, like 28 billion a year spent. but equally just as much, was the leader keir starmer has been quiet on this and wasn't really talking very openly. so this is what was put to the shadow secretary of state for justice. so she was asked about, as labour weakening its ambition? there is no doubt that this is going to be a challenging mission that we have set ourselves. but we are not prepared to just sit back and think we are in a doom loop here and it seems like it's all pretty hopeless and we can do nothing. government can achieve huge things here if it has the political will to do so and if it makes some money available, but also, if it takes the steps to unlock private sector investment and that is so necessary if we are going to have clean energy by 2030 and not be reliant on dictators abroad and get our bills down as well. the question for labour is, if they

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