you say he understood you but he offered no solutions. there were no immediate solutions _ offered no solutions. there were no immediate solutions or— offered no solutions. there were no immediate solutions or guaranteesl immediate solutions or guarantees that we will see help from government during this energy crisis, and i did one the secretary of state i said, look, we are in an energy crisis at the moment. what i'm fearful is that it might become a steel crisis in the next few weeks if nothing is done. that a steel crisis in the next few weeks if nothing is done.— if nothing is done. that was gareth with the view _ if nothing is done. that was gareth with the view from _ if nothing is done. that was gareth with the view from the _ if nothing is done. that was gareth with the view from the steel - with the view from the steel industry. our business correspondent katie prescott is here. two elements to this, of course. and perhaps the needs and costs of industry sometimes gets forgotten about, and that was loud and clear there, certainly from one representative in terms of the potential impact of these gas prices. i potential impact of these gas rices. ., potential impact of these gas rices. ~ , ., potential impact of these gas rices. ~' , ., ., potential impact of these gas rices. ~ , ., ., ., prices. i think you heard from garrett they're _ prices. i think you heard from garrett they're the _ prices. i think you heard from garrett they're the sort - prices. i think you heard from garrett they're the sort of - prices. i think you heard from - garrett they're the sort of tempered optimism, yes, the government is listening, but what they really want to see is something done about this, because you're talking about industries that use vast amounts of power that is their major cost, and ultimately, when those gas prices go up ultimately, when those gas prices go up as they have been, that really