and i think what will emerge as the dominant position with the taliban will also be the interaction between the taliban and the outside, so within afghanistan, other groups and people will deal with the telephone, and of course international actors. the question, i suppose, the time that they have left outside of afghanistan, the previous government had not, they had lived almost exclusively inside the country, to what extent that might have moderated some of their positions. it's difficult to know exactly how moderate they are in terms of their ideological leaning. they don't talk much about it, but even internally, other people, sometimes they're not