Junction. The company is at a critical junction the company is at a critical junction. United states and china at the junction. United states and china at the moment junction. United states and china at the moment are i junction. United states and china at the moment are engaged in what we see a strategic competition. In the competition when two sides are competing to has to be only one when i. Foxconn wants to do business with both and they want to be with both and they want to be with both and they want to be with both winners, but they can only be one winner. find with both winners, but they can only be one winner. Only be one winner. And his first other only be one winner. And his first other interview only be one winner. And his first other interview with. First other interview with international media, young liu, foxconn� s chairman, charts the companys survival. We foxconns chairman, charts the companys survival. Companys survival. We hope eace companys survival. We hope peace and companys survival. We hope peace and stability companys survival. We hope peace and stability will companys survival. We hope peace and stability will be i peace and stability will be something the leader of these two countries will keep those in mind. ~ ,. , in mind. Wherever you go in taiwan. In mind. Wherever you go in taiwan, everybody in mind. Wherever you go in taiwan, Everybody Knows i taiwan, Everybody Knows foxconn, the Company Dominates things here. Its benefited from decades of a stable relationship between the us and china, but its now caught in middle of a giant tug of war between the two sides and is looking for that next product to help it chart its future. How it does that is what ill be exploring in this edition of asias tech titans. The changing of the guard at taiwans National Revolutionary martyr� s � s reign, an island thats always been on edge, since 1950, taiwan has been functioning as a self ruled ireland, but china sees it as a rebel region that must be reunited with the mainland by force if necessary. The Chinese Government force if necessary. The Chinese Government continues force if necessary. The Chinese Government continues to force if necessary. The Chinese Government continues to see l government continues to see taiwan as a core interest, they are not going to relinquish their view that taiwan is an integral part, simply a Rogue Province of mainland china, and that the annexation, the unification with taiwan is not just necessary but also destiny. What does that mean for a company like foxconn . There are always going to have to keep those political threats under consideration, and that will really hamper the ability for foxconn to operate a. Which is why this for foxconn to operate a. Which is why this new for foxconn to operate a. Which is why this new era for foxconn to operate a. Which is why this new era of is why this new era of foxconns growth is so critical for the chairman young liu. Hes only been in the job since 2019, and has a huge task on his hands, how to help foxconn navigate the relationship between the us and china. Hello, so nice to meet you. I met him for an exclusive conversation, the first time he has spoken to an International Broadcaster about concerns of war between us and china not farfrom his mind. Does it keep you up at night, thinking about this, the possibility that war between, or conflict between the us and china might be imminent, and taiwan could be caught up and companies in taiwan could be caught up in all of this . I taiwan could be caught up in all of this . All of this . I would say of course. All of this . I would say of course, this all of this . I would say of course, this is all of this . I would say of course, this is always all of this . I would say of course, this is always a l all of this . I would say of course, this is always a factor i have to think about. Course, this is always a factor i have to think about. How bad would you i have to think about. How bad would you say i have to think about. How bad would you say the i have to think about. How bad would you say the current would you say the current relationship is between the us and china, from your decades of experience as a business leader. Do you think this is a permanent breakup . I leader. Do you think this is a permanent breakup . Leader. Do you think this is a permanent breakup . I dont know olitics permanent breakup . I dont know politics that permanent breakup . I dont know politics that much, permanent breakup . I dont know politics that much, but permanent breakup . I dont know politics that much, but in permanent breakup . I dont know politics that much, but in my politics that much, but in my mind, i think politics is something that may change. I dont know exactly what they are trying to fight for, but i always think they will reach a balance. 50 always think they will reach a balance. , always think they will reach a balance,. ,. , always think they will reach a balance. ,. , i. Always think they will reach a balance. ,. ,. , balance. So how do you as a business balance. So how do you as a Business Prepare balance. So how do you as a Business Prepare for balance. So how do you as a. Business prepare for Something Like that . Your operations i headquartered here, you are a vital part of the time economy. What is the business Contingency Plan here . Diversification is one way, as a business, as a ceo, i had to think about what if the worst case happened, so we are doing something, some planning, hopefully it will not happen. But we have to be prepared. I just want to get a sense from you about the economic model in the last four decades that has helped foxconn thrive. Its been manufacturing in china and selling to mainly us customers, leveraging that sort of dynamic, and its really worked well for Companies Like foxconn. Well for Companies Like foxconn. Do well for Companies Like foxconn. Do you i well for Companies Like foxconn. Do you think foxconn. Yes. Do you think because foxconn. Yes. Do you think because of foxconn. Yes. Do you think because of the foxconn. Yes. Do you think because of the current because of the current tensions, that model is over, we are in a new world in our . I dont think so. We are doing manufacturing, hiring a lot of workers, and most countries, they want to support their workers, including china. Whether we are going to have all the manufacturing in china, without that be affected, because of the tension . So far we have not seen it. We have not seen at. May be because of the type of business that we are in. ,. , the type of business that we are in. ,. ,. , ~. , are in. The us has talked about the risking are in. The us has talked about the risking from are in. The us has talked about the risking from china. Are in. The us has talked about the risking from china. What i the risking from china. What does that mean for a business like yours . De risking from china . Like yours . De risking from china . ~. , china . We do Contract Manufacturing china . We do Contract Manufacturing for china . We do Contract Manufacturing for our| china . We do Contract Manufacturing for our branded customers. Manufacturing for our branded customers customers. Many of whom are in the west customers. Many of whom are in the west. Right. Customers. Many of whom are in the west. Right. And customers. Many of whom are in the west. Right. And they the west. Right. And they probably the west. Right. And they probably get the west. Right. And they probably get the the west. Right. And they probably get the push the west. Right. And they| probably get the push from their government about the risking, and then they will let us know. , risking, and then they will let us know. ,. ,. , us know. Have they done that et . Us know. Have they done that yet . There us know. Have they done that yet . There is us know. Have they done that yet . There is some, us know. Have they done that yet . There is some, but us know. Have they done that yet . There is some, but not l yet . There is some, but not all. Yet . There is some, but not all for yet . There is some, but not all. For certain yet . There is some, but not all. For certain product yet . There is some, but not| all. For certain product lines, like, nobody moved mexico but others have moved to vietnam but not all the product lines, it depends whether the projects have National Security concerns, they will be the first batch to move. National Security Concerns first batch to move. National Security Concerns are first batch to move. National Security Concerns are one Security Concerns are one reason Security Concerns are one reason why foxconn has looked elsewhere to manufacture its products. The company chose this site in wisconsin as a way to shift manufacturing from china to the united states. It was initially billed as a 10 billion investment, Creating Thousands Ofjobs in the us when it was first announced in 2017, but that did not materialise. The company eventually renegotiated the contract and today says it has invested just over 1 billion that. Alan young was the director of Strategic Initiatives at foxconn. Now a professor at the University Of Wisconsin madison. Professor at the University Of Wisconsin madison. There are lots of things wisconsin madison. There are lots of things that wisconsin madison. There are lots of things that really, lots of things that really, when you planned big projects you cannot anticipate everything will work out and unfold the way that you have written down on the plan. In the case of the project wisconsin, i think it came about because of the right policy put in place under the Trump Administration but now you look at the past two or three years, with abidin administration, with the inflation reduction act, theres a lot of encouragement, a lot of Policy Statements made by the Us Government to really encourage manufacturers to come back here, the company knew at some point there would be demand, clients that ask can you do this for us, can you make products because we need to configure servers and when you do that you have a footprint in the united states, perhaps somewhere in the upper midwest i think the move was right, the timing may be off a little bit, but you can never fault the company for trying hard. �. ,. ,. ,. , hard. Along with geopolitical concerns. Hard. Along with geopolitical concerns, there hard. Along with geopolitical concerns, there have hard. Along with geopolitical concerns, there have been i hard. Along with geopolitical concerns, there have been other pressures on foxconn to re evaluate its china strategy, like this event, a mass riot at its plant in china in late 2022, social media video showing the extent of the fear and anger. Workers who were worried about a covid outbreak trying to flee from the foxconn factory, their desire to escape made worse by historical reports of worker abuse at foxconn. It reports of worker abuse at foxconn reports of worker abuse at foxconn. ,. , foxconn. It was the explosive moment. Foxconn. It was the explosive moment. The foxconn. It was the explosive moment, the paint foxconn. It was the explosive moment, the paint pent foxconn. It was the explosive moment, the paint pent up i moment, the Paint Pent Up Pressure because of the lockdown, the mismanagement, and some genuine believe they would die because of the coronavirus infection. And workers coronavirus infection. And workers needed coronavirus infection. And workers needed to coronavirus infection. And workers needed to protect their own safety and health, so much so that they wanted to just escape the foxconn factory. But young liu says it was more complicated than that. I think there was complicated than that. I think there was a complicated than that. I think there was a very complicated than that. I think there was a very sad complicated than that. I think there was a very sad event. I complicated than that. I think l there was a very sad event. The reason why it happened is as i mentioned, because of the virus mutating, becoming so contagious, too many people got infected, because the way the quarantine was done, that cause the company do not have enough space to quarantine. When our worker, they sensed that the virus was becoming so contagious, they were afraid of catching it, they wanted to leave and when they wanted to leave, we dont really have any measure to stop them, they can leave freely. But what happened is there is no transportation for them, is there is no transportation forthem, because is there is no transportation for them, because the government has stringent quarantine policies. So, the Scene You Saw was due to the transportation not being there. With all due respect, what workers have told us another media is that they face being locked in their rooms or on the campus with very Little Information about the infection rates, about how covid was spreading on your Factory Floor in china, and they were concerned that they were going to get infected and that nobody was going to help them. Looking back, dont you think there were serious mistakes made there, and you have some regret about that . About that . This is not really to my understanding. About that . This is not really to my understanding. I about that . This is not really to my understanding. I think| to my understanding. I think there are two groups of people, one was people who got infected, they needed to be quarantined, and another group of people who were tested were clean. For people who got infected, they were quarantine. And because under the zero covid policy, they are not allowed to leave. But that group of people, yes, but that is the local government, their rule that we had to abide by. When they do the virus test. They used a 20 in one type of method to be efficient. That means that you test 20 people and put in one cube and test them, and if one person in the 20 people was infected, then this 20 people will be treated as infected. So this 20 people will be put in the quarantine area, maybe one or two i really infected, but the other ones, because of the test, so they may not be infected, i think you are talking about those people. 50 you are talking about those eole. ,. , you are talking about those eole. , you are talking about those eole. ,. , y. , people. So what do you think led to those people. So what do you think led to those riots people. So what do you think led to those riots and people. So what do you think led to those riots and the led to those riots and the protests amongst workers . It wasnt an isolated event, there were hundreds of people involved. What do you think led to that . Ii involved. What do you think led to that . ,. ,. , to that . If it is not as contagious to that . If it is not as contagious as to that . If it is not as contagious as it to that . If it is not as contagious as it was, | to that . If it is not as contagious as it was, then we would be doing fine with the zero covid quarantine policy. Then, it all started with a new virus when it became so contagious and there were too many people treated as infected, and that caused the quarantine process, the quarantine process, the Quarantine Method to become out of control. So i will say, the same thing happened again, i would start the production stop the production. If the same situation occurs again, we will stop the production. Altogether . Will stop the production. Altogether . Even at altogether . Altogether. Even at the risk of annoying altogether . Altogether. Even at the risk of annoying your the risk of annoying your biggest customers, because you were Making Iphones at that factory . Were Making Iphones at that facto . ~. ,. ,. , factory . We have to find other wa s to factory . We have to find other ways to satisfy factory . We have to find other ways to satisfy that, factory . We have to find other ways to satisfy that, but factory . We have to find other ways to satisfy that, but in ways to satisfy that, but in that factory, in that kind of situation, we better stop it. When you look back now, do you wish you had made the decision at that time, and said ok guys, we are pulling the plug, because workers come first . I would probably do that if it happened because workers come first . I would probably do that if it happened again. Because workers come first . I would probably do that if it happened again. Yes. Because workers come first . I would probably do that if it happened again. Yes. Iisft because workers come first . I would probably do that if it happened again. Yes. Iisft rrf happened again. Yes. Part of foxconn happened again. Yes. Part of Foxconn Young happened again. Yes. Part of Foxconn Young lius happened again. Yes. Part of| Foxconn Young lius desire Foxconn Young lius desire to be transparent has led to me getting expressive access to him in the company. He invited us to the general meeting, a once a year in person reckoning with shareholders. It was a chance for me to see him in action. Batting criticism and complaints from shareholders who have travelled far and wide to see him. Some perhaps more persistent than others. But while young liu is now in the spotlight, it was the charismatic founder of the firm who built it all. Today he is one of the countrys richest man. He started out in1971t with man. He started out in 1974 with a loan ofjust 7,500 from his mum to make channel changing jobs in black and white tvs. He was extremely influential after rubbing shoulders with world leaders, political connections that helped pave the way. Foxconn is now the Worlds LargestContract Electronics manufacturer, and counts microsoft, amazon, sony and dell as customers. On the Factory Floor in taipei, it is making components for servers and data centres. It was one company in particular that led to a huge ship in its fortunes, apple. To a huge ship in its fortunes, a le. ~ ,. , , to a huge ship in its fortunes, ale. ~ , apple. When steve obs came back around apple. When steve obs came back around 97, apple. When steve obs came back around 97, 981 apple. When steve jobs came back around 97, 98 for apple. When steve jobs came back around 97, 98 for the i back around 97, 98 for the second time, stevejobs second time, steve jobs desperately second time, stevejobs desperately needed Something Big to grow. Early 2000 if i remember apple have this product called ayemac, a big round thing on the desk with different very colourful monitors for apple. Different very colourful monitors forapple. Basically making monitors into a very attractive product. So they go way back. Steve jobs has a great vision of his product, but the problem is that many things he wanted to sell could not be manufactured, so he needed to able to manufacture. That is why you have iphone. In 2007 before we heard of iphone, they made ready. They made ready. Iphone admission, they made ready. Iphone admission, everyone they made ready. Iphone| admission, everyone likes they made ready. Iphone admission, everyone likes to keep a low profile. Even if you havent heard of the company and self, you probably would have seen one of these, the iphone. Now, each iphone contains hundreds of components, and foxconn makes about 60 of them from things like the Camera Module to the connect is in the device and even the back of the phone. But Smart Phone Sales are plateauing, and foxconn needs to find the next big thing, the next iphone so to speak to drive growth forward. Enter electric vehicles. We drive growth forward. Enter electric vehicles. Drive growth forward. Enter electric vehicles. We are going to have three electric vehicles. We are going to have three new electric vehicles. We are going to have three new ev electric vehicles. We are going to have three new ev we to have three new ev we will show you one. To have three new ev we will i show you one. There show you one. Fantastic. There ou to. Show you one. Fantastic. There you go we show you one. Fantastic. There you go we have show you one. Fantastic. There you go. We have model show you one. Fantastic. There you go. We have model c, show you one. Fantastic. There l you go. We have model c, model b and model a. You go. We have model c, model b and modela. E. Ok. Lets go. B and modela. E. 0k. Lets to. ,. , , b and modela. E. 0k. Lets to. ,. , go. How does this compare to our go. How does this compare to your car . Go. How does this compare to your car . 0h. Go. How does this compare to your car . Oh, the go. How does this compare to your car . Oh, the driving your car . Oh, the Driving Steering your car . Oh, the Driving Steering is your car . Oh, the Driving Steering is much your car . Oh, the Driving Steering is much better. | your car . Oh, the driving l steering is much better. It your car . Oh, the Driving Steering is much better. It is very powerful. This is the equivalent to about 460 horsepower. Equivalent to about 460 horse ower. , . , horsepower. Quite different to makin horsepower. Quite different to Making Iphones, horsepower. Quite different to Making Iphones, right . Horsepower. Quite different to Making Iphones, right . Right j Making Iphones, right . Right definitely Making Iphones, right . Right definitely. It Making Iphones, right . Right definitely. It is Making Iphones, right . Right definitely. It is much Making Iphones, right . Right definitely. It is much more, i definitely. It is much more, better than the iphone. If we look at the component, the typical ev would have about 10,000 parts comparing two phones, it is about 600 parts. There is about roughly 20 times more components. More components. Pretty ambitious, more components. Pretty ambitious, right, more components. Pretty ambitious, right, to more components. Pretty ambitious, right, to go i more components. Pretty i ambitious, right, to go from making Consumer Devices like phones to making this . Making Consumer Devices like phones to making this . Yes. The reason why phones to making this . Yes. The reason why we phones to making this . Yes. The reason why we think phones to making this . Yes. The reason why we think this phones to making this . Yes. The reason why we think this is i phones to making this . Yes. The reason why we think this is a i reason why we think this is a great opportunity for foxconn is that in the past, most of the cars are made with mechanical stuff. Very, very little ee parts in the car. But there are a lot of ee components. There are a lot of ee components. There are a lot of ee com onents. , components. So it feels quite familiar for components. So it feels quite familiar for you components. So it feels quite familiar for you then components. So it feels quite familiar for you then as i components. So it feels quite familiar for you then as you i familiar for you then as you like right. Familiar for you then as you like right like right. This is like a big ipad. Yeah. Like right. This is like a big ipad. Yeah. We like right. This is like a big ipad. Yeah. We are i like right. 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Oh, wow | tha seconds. From zero to 100. 3. 8 seconds. From zero to 100. How is my Driving Skills . Tier . How is my Driving Skills . Very aood. I how is my Driving Skills . Very good i feel how is my Driving Skills . Very good. I feel very how is my Driving Skills . Very good. I feel very safe how is my Driving Skills . Very good. I feelvery safe here. I good. Ifeel very safe here. Thank you, thank you. Good. I feelvery safe here. Thank you, thank you. What is either fun thank you, thank you. What is either fun and thank you, thank you. What is either fun and games thank you, thank you. What is either fun and games for i thank you, thank you. What is either fun and games for a i thank you, thank you. What is either fun and games for a bit | either fun and games for a bit and making cars is a serious business. You have never made a car before. There is a lot of competition. Tesla, byob, you know they are well be had. They are the traditional carmakers. How confident are you that this is going to take off . So how confident are you that this is going to take off . Is going to take off . So far we havent seen is going to take off . So far we havent seen a is going to take off . So far we havent seen a big is going to take off . So far we havent seen a big enough i havent seen a Big Enough Company was focusing on Contract Design in the manufacturing services. The company � s that you just mentioned, they are all branded companies, they sell their own products. We dont. So we are going to do with the model that we are very familiar with, which is counter manufacturing. So the company you just mentioned, they are potentially are all customers. We can do the work with them. That is why we were very, very excited and we were very, very excited and we think it is very promising for us with that kind of Business Model to go into this ev business. Ev business. Said potentially they could ev business. Said potentially they could be ev business. Said potentially they could be your ev business. Said potentially. They could be your customers. Are any of them currently your customers, like tesla or byd . Of course. We are already doing something for them, but we cannot name them. So something for them, but we cannot name them. Something for them, but we cannot name them. So is that to cive us a cannot name them. So is that to give us a sense cannot name them. So is that to give us a sense that cannot name them. So is that to give us a sense that it is give us a sense that it is tesla you are having a Business Relationship with . We tesla you are having a Business Relationship with . Tesla you are having a Business Relationship with . We are doing somethin relationship with . We are doing something in relationship with . We are doing something in mexico. Relationship with . We are doing something in mexico. For something in mexico. For those companies. Something in mexico. For those companies. Something in mexico. For those companies. Why was it so important those companies. Why was it so important to those companies. Why was it so important to diversify those companies. Why was it so important to diversify not i those companies. Why was it so important to diversify notjust i important to diversify notjust the product line, but the geography of where you are making these atvs . Because from what i understand, you are not making the ev � s in china, which has been your traditional manufacturing base. I which has been your traditional manufacturing base. Which has been your traditional manufacturing base. I think the reuional manufacturing base. I think the Regional Manufacturing manufacturing base. I think the Regional Manufacturing for manufacturing base. I think the Regional Manufacturing for the | Regional Manufacturing for the ev � s or four cars Regional Manufacturing for the ev � s orfour cars is quite natural because cars are very bulky, very big and very heavy. It doesnt make sense for you to make in one place and ship this very big, heavy thing to another place, another country. So regionalised the production for cars is very natural. That is why we had our factory in ohio and we are going to have one in thailand. Soon we will have one in india. 50 one in thailand. Soon we will have one in india. Have one in india. So what is the ambition have one in india. So what is the ambition here have one in india. So what is the ambition here when have one in india. So what is the ambition here when it i have one in india. So what is the ambition here when it comes to evs and the growth for foxconn in the future . I will sa for foxconn in the future . I will say for our foxconn in the future . I will say for our future foxconn in the future . I will say for our future growth,. Say for our future growth, definitely is on the evs. We see the opportunity of ev discs so we will grab it, grab this opportunity. We think by 2025 we have two reach about 5 for us to become significant enough as a player in that industry. So our goal is to reach about 5 of that market. So our goal is to reach about 596 of that market. Foxconns balancing 596 of that market. Foxconns Balancing Act 596 of that market. Foxconns balancing act between 596 of that market. Foxconns Balancing Act Between West L 596 of that market. Foxconns i balancing act between west and Eastis Balancing Act between west and east is reminiscent of a scene that lays out across parks in taipei every morning. Tai chi, which helps maintain visibility and balance. Anna has always been foxconns strength. Moving calmly through political and economic headwinds, it has had to learn to be fluid and nimble to learn to be fluid and nimble to thrive. As we wrap up our discussion, young liu has some words of advice for his partners in the united states. How do you think chinas journey in technology is going . Would it overtake the us in the future . , ,. , would it overtake the us in the future . ,. , future . From the uss point of view, future . From the uss point of view. They future . From the uss point of view, they have future . From the uss point of view, they have to future . From the uss point of view, they have to move future . From the uss point of. View, they have to move faster. China so far is behind, right, technology wise. You dont tell the follower to say, you stop, 0k, the follower to say, you stop, ok, because i dont move fast enough. You better stop. And i dont think that is a right approach. They should think the other way around. I should move much faster so the follower can catch up with us. It is the same answer to my shareholders. They ask me about how we are going to cope with the competitors in china, what is our strategy . Competitors in china, what is ourstrategy . I competitors in china, what is our strategy . I told them, from foxconns went of you, we have to move much faster so that they are not able to catch up. We cannot tell them to stop. 0k. We cannot tell them to stop. Ok. So it is the same idea. From their point of view, my advice, i think, for the us, they have to move faster so that china and another china in the future, they wont be able to catch up. The future, they wont be able to catch urn to catch up. Thank you very much, chairman to catch up. Thank you very much, chairman young to catch up. Thank you very much, chairman young liu| to catch up. Thank you very i much, chairman young liu for speaking to the bbc. Much, chairman young liu for speaking to the bbc. Hello there. Its looking pretty different weather wise this weekend were not going to have wall to wall sunshine like weve had the previous weekend. We have low pressure working its way and thats going to bring showers and some thundery downpours for many places. And there will be some sunshine around, but youll notice its going to feel increasingly humid. Our air source still coming in from the south, so its going to be fairly warm. But here it is, this area of low pressure continuing to edge in towards western areas. Thats where well see most of the showers, even longer spells of rain across Northern Ireland for saturday morning. Best of the sunshine towards eastern areas. Could see a little bit of cloud here and there, and there could be the odd shower popping up into central areas into the afternoon. Some low cloud, mist and murk affecting Northeast Scotland and the northern isles, so temperatures here only around 13 or iii degrees, but for most, its the low to mid 20s. So, not quite as warm as of late, but still well above the seasonal norm. Now, as we head through Saturday Night, we continue with showers through central and western areas, again, some of them will be heavy and thundery, tending to stay dry the further east that you are. And its going to be slightly milder, i think, Saturday Night a warmer, muggierfeel to things out west. Now, into sunday, this is the day where i think we could see most of the showers and thunderstorms. They will become widespread across england and wales during the day and there could be some torrential downpours in places. Now, there will be more cloud around too, so its not going to be quite as warm than of late, were generally looking at the high teens, low 20s for many of us, and still some low cloud, mist and murk for Northeast Scotland, the northern isles. Through sunday night, it looks like we could see an area of Thundery Rain Spreading Northwards across england and wales, pushing across scotland into monday, so a very wet start for Monday Morning across scotland. That heavy rain becomes confined to the North Highlands into the northern isles, but elsewhere, it brightens up, sunshine and showers again, some of the showers could be heavy and thundery in places. But with more sunshine around, itll be a little bit warmer, i think, with temperatures again reaching the mid 20s in the warmest spots. And then, as we move beyond monday, low pressure always nearby to the north and the west of the uk. However, towards the end of the new week, it could be that High Pressure wants to build back in again, so that should kill off the showers across southern areas, and we could see temperatures rising again across Southern Britain with the increasing amounts of sunshine. But most of the showers will tend to be across the north and the west of the country. See you later. We are pulling the plug, because workers come first . Welcome to viewers on pbs in america