it locks us further into a fossil dependency. i think we need to move towards real renewable energy. and i feel that it's greenwashing. to say that we are less dependent on importing fossil fuels from other countries by producing it yourself, is not really a very thought—through thing to do, i think. one thing that you recommend in the book is free local transport. as i write, it's one of the most low—hanging fruits. and just the fact that that hasn't even been done says a lot about our emissions. how would you pay for it? i mean, i'mjust thinking, in this country, we've just spent £400 billion on the pandemic. there's a cost of living crisis. that's exactly why i don't focus on specific issues. tell me, why? because then we get stuck on these things, instead of focusing on the crisis itself. but doesn't that leave you exposed to the argument that, by talking only about the broad principle, and trying to change the story, the public narrative on climate change, that you're not prepared to, as it were, get your hands dirty in the real