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The bags that secretaries warning the European Union the U.K.'s willingness to compromise is not without limits Dominic Rampal tell the Conservative party conference the president will walk away without a deal if necessary political correspondent he's been right the breaks the secretary will make a speech in which will sound quite hardline saying that the U.K. Is not willing to compromise it would never stand for a customs union or being a full member of the Single Market threatening to walk away but even by talking about compromise I think he's revealing that they will have to be some movement on the U.K. Side to get a deal rescuers are trying to reach people still trapped in rubble following Friday's earthquake and tsunami in Indonesia more than 800 people are confirmed dead but that number is expected to rise to the thousands as more areas and reached Dr Peter McCawley is an expert in international 8.30 Report of course that. Collapsed. 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Millions of small plastic beads that can be harmful to sea life are washing up on a beach in Hampshire the Hayling Island is one of the worst affected areas in the U.K. The holidays from the final stroll Solon group which campaigns to clean up local beaches really horrified we could see just everywhere there were these tiny tiny little plastic basically pooled in their millions and. In the manufacturing process and melted in full to make all its things that we see made as plastic on our shelves but perhaps mishandling some of them are escaping into a cool 2 ways and out to sea then washing up on a beach and 31000 BT workers will transfer to its infrastructure Openreach this morning it's believed to be the biggest one of transfer of staff in U.K. Corporate history of Com has ordered BT to make open reach a separate company Hughes and Kraft has the sports Francesco Molinari held a team effort as his record 5 points helped Europe to a huge win over the USA at the Ryder Cup It finished 17 and a half to 10 and a half in Paris it's Molinari 3rd Ryder Cup win but afterwards he said $28.00 teams was the best team he'd been a part of teamwork was also the priority in Formula one as well as Beltre repotted S was asked to let his Mercedes team mate Lewis Hamilton pass him during the Russian groan Prix that helped Hamilton go on to win the race and extend his championship lead over Sebastian Vettel to 50 points with 5 races remaining Some bokes scored the winner is Burnley extended Cardiff City's winless start to the Premier League campaign his 1st goal of the season and a 21 win in Wales manager Steven Gerrard last just his 2nd match since taking over at Rangers they were beaten one nil by Livingston in the Scottish Premiership so sharks would be to $915.00 by Leicester Tigers in rugby union's Premiership and whole K.-R. 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This is a love on Dawson added coming up in this hour of the program we invite you to join us from monthly record club this morning we're looking at particularly you not to join a sing give us your thoughts on the specific question of the albums or the wider question with the foo for the number 808. 969300808 fraud 909693 can text me 855 or you could e-mail. B.B.C. . The 2 albums we're looking at all the Eurythmics be yourself tonight the album we've all the hits if you like and stings I dream of the blues. Both of these. Those are interesting in that one album finds the year Rhythmix and band together days should in any lengths at the height of their fame just before she goes off to become a solo artist the other album find staying after his journey as a member of the group the police. Who dream of the Blue Turtles. Now the question I'm straying year is this whether you're familiar with albums on does it ever work when an artist because. After being a member of a band does it ever would do they ever nail it after after. After being a member of a band and then. Did it apart from Michael Jackson Which other artists have managed to nail that conundrum in 10080859 or 9693 Feel free to join us and that but let's welcome our experts music writer directors of us Ellerdine you. And Travis OBRA the pop culture stories of us as well hello charges I tell. Some bad news we actually have got some good news and some bad news which if you like 1st the bad knees. By you don't know battle good for us. You have to have I like the way you can happily go well the bad news the bad news is that don't Busby's with us as well spectacularly and fat on how to buy a hangover you haven't heard the good news you have a new to do you guys want to bother about the good news or 3 just leave it the bad news. So you show it break it break calendar I'll get used to it I'll break the good news to you gently the good news is that don't Busby's joining us for the often tell funny Well I thought you might like that I think my life so listeners that genuinely I do want your thoughts on this because these albums are interesting in that one sees and he's still a member of the Eurythmics Well I say that he should have any legs and he. That's a funny story I'll tell you about that one of these days once he's out he learned still a member of the river things coming out of things just before she goes with perhaps their most successful album and the other sees staying coming out of the police with one of his least successful albums Jamie the pleats settles how do you explain that Daniel can can an artist ever ever replicate what they started out with as a member of a band. Well it's a fascinating question and then immediately comes to mind would be poor Simon son regard. As a fantastic solo career George Harrison is far more successful out and I know it doesn't read so short he's not more successful than the Beatles George as an individual within that cortex. Has tremendous success doesn't it with interest well well that arguably signing off on cause Bridge Over Troubled Waters wipes the floor with anything the Paul Simon does subsequently it's the biggest. Business about as you know from the album we've done on this program before Graceland I mean it takes what 15 years later I mean this since sation are completely different but not quite not quite successful is what he did to Simon and Garfunkel's The point are you measuring success in terms of record sales in terms of records. I'll have no you have you know that bridge over troubled waters as I'm sure you're aware was in the album charts in the U.K. Let alone America or anywhere else for about 23 you do 34 years and some days yeah yeah competing with The Sound of Music and. Yes it's not always like it's a good yardstick isn't it that's how it works measure I guess and what about for you Travis any artist apart from my projects and you know I mean there I mean there are there are few people I mean springs to mind as well from what you see. As he really be more senses of the term Well I mean he said he's had a long career as a long hard look or is a solo artist and even just as a member of the jam and could be some of his religion some of the study the jam I mean I mean they're all so she just I suppose like Dusty Springfield it begins and then become a very successful city singer makes Schildt you know she's a freshman says agree but it makes amazing oh here's a solo artist and then I'm going to say Smokey Robinson My mom. Yes you know. I've gone down. Because I know that your it's not cool to say this artist but Phil Collins recordings massively misses Well he won an Oscar by himself and he filled stadia and arenas on his own and take on the managers would you agree don't you Would you agree that Phil Collins is a solo artist because the genesis. Of your let's talk about Phil Collins. Is the thing that I know I know it's not cool to like her colleagues but this is this if it's a music conversation you can't become for it to be music snobs Currently we are that we either do it properly or we are absurd because a version but we are that we can't write people off you know just because we don't because it's no longer cool it can be right Barry. Well according to millions are many going on what we were mentioning earlier we're going on record sales and according to 60000000 record sales it must have been cool with somebody at some point 60000000 is it will feel kind of the sold one of when you combine Genesis and him as a singles sales as well he's one of the highest selling of all time along with all McCartney charges would you start on this. Genesis. Well we could write like a great game and toss in Peter Gabriel as well did a very successful 80 Selleck career as well just I mean I think probably in the long whole Genesis because there was HE'S SO CALLED IT IS SO COOL it's a drama records amounts to a sort of larger body of work but I think I mean to me I thought it was seen in the unavoidable as a solo artist I mean the all of those it brings to mind just to get it back on to more people is Diana Ross Yes OK you're done for enough TANTAROS We'll come to that in a 2nd and don't forget we are talking for this morning's record about the your example be yourself tonight and strings album Dream of the blue if you're familiar with the other album you want to give us your comments on that most welcome 008-085-9096 extension 93 Travis Daniel and Dom with us 1st let's go to Steve in run 3rd and. I don't know what I'm talking about no you know no question I'm. Better off than they were environed right. There I suggested it was a nail young friend I don't like and only confine myself to skating Still I can only pick one so I'm going to say Vince Cable is long gone love the one you're with a fellow scholars who switch gears you know good Anybody who thinks great. Have great. I. Love this I cannot love just because I do love the one I'm with my Mrs has done a version of this on her all of them which is like a Phyllis still in covers album and Philistine and did this in a kind of a rock steady reggae is way some logging with these days when I was in fantasies or . Does it get any better than that Stephen Stills Neil Young anybody because I don't know what I'm talking about as what you said I'm cool with that. Whatever is know your facts of the month. So anybody else. Steve. Bligh know you might Yeah well I mean I understand there are people I was on my way to pay Yeah. I think you know well one of the 2 of. That's rare enough I do though most nights by the way. Your Way to anybody else. Seems to is I don't know obviously Paul McCartney looking that's always been so you know we need to reckon he was bigger than the Beatles that was George Harrison and we said. You look close Harrison was just a probably so lovely I mean I think. Probably overcome creation he was a total defeat. In terms of record so. I reckon I'm proud of my records yeah I'm strickly you know if it comes on because I'm off to sleep I don't like Link I think I mean it will speak to Neil Young who else could possibly be you would think oh. OK so the treats. On mock debate NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO it doesn't work try that may your sleep which means your Harf awake which means I will keep you off awake for another tune off as that's the way it works maybe you can just stop well for your way to bed and say I'll just make this call and then go to bed because people will be responding to what you've had to say Steve so you know how awful wakey markup is always awful I'll keep you half way can lease if not for the way for next to our road 3 run in Southampton you're with us as we're in a row now you yeah don't see battles by the G.B. For all I know Ricci How could you think I don't know. How he remembers the Commodore was there you always were fantastic yeah but he with a sure thing the ridge they should be all theme Qingdao night shift Commodores competed on over here at my last I'm having enough here because you'll see are you serious you know on and. On I don't know. I'm having a live struggle never get. On her feet in the you might at some day with a sculpture of thread on a rig. That was harsh that was hostile to say the holder was safe over there which I actually made a video. How could this broke. Through the. Very very. Massive very actually. Probably. People tend to try to make out the people who call in the law and all Richie Benaud. Shall speak from. What you know. People you know. People say if you going to do a record sales are going to measure on something more than that but I mean it's the only thing it's the only thing in music I know it's probably unfair but he is the only thing we've got to measure on otherwise have opinion was nothing wrong with opinion but that's all you've got you want to go on the number of records sold I.E. How many millions of people enjoyed it. Well Dave down the pub says it's rubbish you can't have both we could actually where you are you Roy if I wanted to be really really good architecture manager say Frank Sinatra used to be free and then he left them. Originated when he was very very young and then he come on and many millions and millions of practically every part of every CD have a drum. Mash of. 500 a lot of fantastic singer fantastic. As a commercial entity. Like . Really don't there is certainly so. Record has been a great artistic statement here but really we need to we are we have it so we don't talk about you or haven't a binary choice you know you have an artistic there's an artistic choice I think. What is the point of having an actual measure it's like you know you go a stopwatch to measure how far you say Bowl runs but instead you're going to say this is talk to other runners about how good a runner is that it again we I mean this kind of a deep 8 is it fascinates because if we get into the idea of when artists have number one so you could judge them by that they hit some wheel and we'll know that often the an a number one record or successful record comes out the back of the previously better record and the statement to the fans it is in the case in the following release in. Backing what they being enjoying over that last. Poll of for example who seem to have a heavy soul went to number one which is probably a statement on stun erode Yeah sure it's concentrate on the 2 albums now that we're discussing per hour and so bring in all the concepts of solo verses member of a band Don't get me wrong that is 2 part of this conversation but the album specifically that we're looking at for this month's record low had the Eurythmics be yourselves tonight and stings dream of the bleed so it was she we hear is some of the hit and I distress that we're here to say so in loads and loads and loads from the your example be yourselves in our. player says trim her a wii u. Rhythmix album that we're focusing on this morning own selves tonight now i guarantee did i think use for my massive his saw him that album how many did you count daum for us well would i like he was a hit was an a there must be an angel with end number of one from memory i think our sisters are doing it was a make here are those is is some really any made it's all ride babies coming by made here at those those 1st 3 were paps the from my memory the biggest ones of them out how many jews karen travis do were though there with they released for singles off the other you know which with 0 which is the trucks to dot the dumb mench which of i now which really has annoying tracks yeah is is just substantial slicing office of material and and it understood a credit to that to the material at the those full songs did become its i think it's all right was the the least successful but it was but in the feeder the 4th single loss off the lp so perhaps it in or that most delivery will but already believe album by the only and i argue bluhm what like so at she did the 1st singles that he successful in to a program by chart positions here we're i should but i like she just what our lights you got to number 17 and it it's all rights which is the 4th single height choosy credible number 12 a great record knows gray recorder what love it want to know 11 number one record and the only sing working you read it to ever have as a number one record which is there must be an angel claim her my arts gear which is or an incredible demonstration of a bunny learn it 6 voice yes i mean is this very few singh is pop seeing is that i've got the range see how it shares a control to boise 3 and a half octaves at that's quite something i am i think banos probably got a similar arrange but very very few and there's a a wonderful moment becomes a trait on that number one single there must be an angel where you gets the middle 8 and and she demonstrates but the opening stan's are a must be hallucinating watching gained you're celebrating she starts or Awesome Jeannie Peeper Camilli with their pianos or perhaps on a guitar and then she rises all the way through. Within that within that middle age section and you hear the looper Boyce and it's something that stereotype voice is is such an important factor ready of mix and it's you know Mr Ross the whole record but to day you Stuart. Travis would see I'd say this because he's going to go off and become a solo star Not long after this would have been 678 Where's the you know he lives it was like oh yeah I don't know that it's right it is a few years I mean we had seen an almost detail actually hate He's the he's the producer of mostly respects and he delivered a backstory that David any would in a prior band could that the tourists you remember seeing now live are members say yeah live at 1st. Got pope everywhere they go bustled by the way they do yeah for the 1st time and the Muslims they generate 70 stuff yeah yeah yeah. But they got they sort of crashed out with it with a cover hit in a sense they had an accidental single they had a cover version of own it would be by Dusty Springfield which it kind of they felt didn't really represent what they were what they were doing musically so Dave in any sort of separated out and had been a couple and they made sort of a quite quite experimental opening out the door couple recorded Yeah they had been a romantic couple but they weren't meant to go by the time they started making music is that you as it were and they make they made now in Germany with Connie plank a great producer what we people like Kraftwerk. And you know annoying those kind of people and Joan Fox which is which had members of Can playing on it and so on and then they had they became you know very successful it as as a sort of electronic group and I think this now means interesting because the ONLY for it was a soundtrack for the film version of 1904 starring John. And they had problems commercially it was a center out many way but the lead single off it was 6 crime which they couldn't get any radio play for in America and the follow up single to. Choose from that character and you know will snowball well which was a bit of a flaw relatively speaking in their output and be yourself tonight I think at least structurally as far as going to Dave and to it it's a far Rocky record he was super Tuesday and sonically the record has really interesting our production about sonic because you know he's taught something about them well you know there are lovely little interesting flourishes I mean done he was just mentioning there about you know you know the. 6 vocal range and just sort of the arrangement which is something like would I lie to you you know just has this lovely little afraid which he still seen Believe me it kind of leaps back in this cut all of this to kind of interesting you folk it's quite a real quick wit and shows a real love of sort of Motown and stack. And sort of just it's a lot you know not. Before Dunn who jumps in Beverly you know we can see waiting patiently to talk to us I know Bevan. Yeah so you want to talk about how I've actually said the cat among the prisons by suggesting that there are very very few ounces that become as successful going solo then when they're playing with their bare and who do you want to reference with regards to that oh it has to be total fake and from Steely Dan. From a you know it's like and then after that chemical we had but you've got who include the night has huge traffic and classic Yeah that was huge 11 record was huge but I don't know if I could be compared since the. Show that he was more successful as a sort of. Probably you know but I just had to include my favorite pleasure. For this time so. Good that it's still good to hear oh yeah you know you. Deserve to you with joy Don't you. Would you agree with them. More than happy to. Hear that you have somebody else who gets off on the record it's never it's never really entered my house and. I would go with that I never thought I'm afraid to. Question what the cool music was but I never got Steely Dan. Strange never got Stevie do you mind explaining to me what they had that was supposed to do you want it I think. You had water back. For me. It just takes me to another level I have to say I am and I think they're fantastic and I think I don't know. Maestro. What about the you're talking about. You know this song whom you talk about I must admit I didn't realize they had so many tracks on that album. I have to say I'm more. Of the late sixty's early seventy's like people like 30 minute train that might. Take. Some sample thumbs down. Sums up yeah yeah you know the sisters are doing it for themselves you know that I said they do now. Beverly thank you for being so patient waiting and thank you for your contribution as well I'm very grateful to you for that let's come back to this conversation in a moment to talk about the mix but also talk about staying in all those blue churches but 1st has got the latest 5 Love headlines his face. 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Steam other being part of my mind's Spains Sergio Garcia also made history as his win over Ricky Fowler saw him support Nick Faldo as the Ryder Cup leading point score with 25 and a half he was described as a legend by teammate Justin Rose who says team mentality was key to their success this team was relentless in its pursuit of excellence we ticked every single box that we could control week in week out I mean all week long whether the recovery nutrition practice rounds our focus was unbelievable this week here let it grow Yeah Lewis Hamilton is one step closer to retaining his Formula One world championship title and a 5th in total after victory at the Russian chrome Prix he finished ahead of me. 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In 27 saying it was. 5 likes 28 for a brand new young commentator think he'd be good at it all for sure if you know young person faced 1115 schools about this then we would see him in action keep listening to find out I'm all young commentator of the year from B.B.C. Radio 5 live across the U.K. This is B.B.C. 5 up all night with us in the bar here once a month we invite you to join a record club and listen if you can oh if you're familiar with the 2 albums or talk about to give us a call 180-859-0969 extension 3 tell us what you think of the albums or any other contribution you want to make to the conversation and this one he would talk about to your Rhythmix album Be yourself tonight the one with all the hits and more and stings dream of the blue. The one with none of the. And in the. Didn't. For me to talk about the down you Rachel the music writes the pop historian and critic. Travis. Oh you're trying to sober up and I can very adore as well love your calls and contributions over 599693 so don't Can I just say something just because Daniel and Travis and I are not being very serious here and genuine we'll know a lot more about this than than I but looking from a distance going back to what we say about Dave Stewart is he very unfairly a bit thought of by the wider populace a bit like the Pet Shop Boys and the guy's name even escape from the quiet one here who seems to slow who seems to do nothing. And yet must bring a lot to it and likewise with Dave to the punter Certainly the time would really show what he did but he always was an integral part of our Dr Harris is that a fair comparison or not I think it's a comparison at all much you get a pretty interesting get this album is the one where he starts being a bit more active shall we say stage full because as you quite rightly say he rather like Dave Bell people from Soft Cell played the role of being the person standing silently by the size while the singer did. Tenent to devote all part in a sense that sort of playing up to the idea that this electronic music was you know was just a little bit different from playing out later on than actually playing these early . Tell me he's much more upfront with visually as far as playing the song and it's good toys he's going to air it it was one of the things I should say but Dave Stewart was that you know he kept it be it throughout the 1980 S. Which a certain points in that decade was not necessarily the most fashionable of. Well OK so rigidly nursing souse with. Much more emotion on. A more common reason for long. Long ago he wrote some book about the long long play good bye I said my goodbyes and then just deleted him from our phone friends but anyway to my brother here with us now Richard. You know I was just listening to you when you were talking nonsense earlier and it was a little bit Williams. But we were really amused if you really wanted my to take a solo career so I can think of and Robbie Williams to give and take that much because. I've. Only played about you 5000000 fans or to so many albums or whatever that. Confidence in him to take that made something of a comeback you know the bigger than Robbie we know. I think right Richard makes a really good point that was an incredible successful step so when he states this he said we could always go beyond reckless is just a name and he's he just knew it and I think we can you please show us what you know St says a lot from the members of a big of a dating. Show business I mean you could say beyond the say from the other side he's showing that he was thinking about. The only correct. Name and Obama's a big one isn't so yeah yeah he said if you're not going to vote Liberal is going to be yeah. And. Richard thanks for the call but let me just run through some of these turns because a lot of them have referred to my suggestion is really do as well. As they did when they were members of the band and Billy wills mentions be on say after leaving Destiny's Child she became the queen. And this one says Morrissey George Mark who Prince McCulloch No Mark home and Eric Clapton Michael Jackson to name a few you know Michael Jackson Prince never came out of a band they did. Oh I suppose the time must be. Not quiet member of the Thomas was cruel bigger than simply red he was simply red was named Jack Exactly exactly but he bigger than simply red because it got a band that simply rode. Being already in the middle bank quite quickly became very much indeed George Mark who Fair enough Morrissey reluctantly I say that you begin this mess reluctantly. Eric Clapton begin the Yardbirds I suppose you'd have to say yeah on that one as well yes. It was a cream or something to ya but of course it was great what about roads as a member Small Faces as Inside Autism faces. Else call a satellite stage and said OK you heard I usually hear yeah you're right face is. Not a bio exactly as he. As usual the bull but there's more Diana Ross. Fat filled Washington tiny with a fat foodie Washington title we also wonder is that a group. You. Originally said and he wrote this is Lauren Edinburgh and soon we get a we stink it any longer I mean he's been writing so many I said what we can delay them just a little bit longer. To say I shook my wing says sting always had a rep for being c series bit too full of himself love the PAMELA STEPHENSON set up with him on Not the 9 O'Clock News she had the track Russians love their children stewed so know out since include Eric Clapton I suppose he says OK let's have a reminder of this please. Sting album in the tracks on the album No pot pourri of the chances of us. While the. Right mood never Bourbon Street. One of the tensions was. Still dream of the black church was this is fortress around Joe Hockey before St We had the dream of the beaches Hills consider me gone we were the Black Sea shadows in the rain Children's Crusade Russians. How they love this do I love is the 7th Wave and if you love somebody set them free OK this is the stings album that we're looking at this one of the dream of the bleed says I . Did not say it's not quite. The blank outlanders demo. Is it jail in Leicester. And a Jew Yes hello I know how you're oh I'm very well well there you go bunch of people me I mean well yeah well back in the guy I really love the album I know the fact that you played of the 18th. I'm so glad I managed to bring back the eighty's . Time Low doc and I can bring it back to the flick of my race but. I was lost my mind didn't dismissing this album for months my money it's not as much fun as the police albums it's not is it it's good she said I guess when we think that he's gone so let any. Thing you know about being 3. Plus fact. That now we say. If you know someone that you know. Make you think about. The band members to. Do you know usually we see with well what do they call it creatively. We have we did. Do you know all of them. But isn't that kind of one of those personal things Travis that stay with us Joe when those personal things when you go before your band members you know you don't want to write a song sleeper make us feel as if where this sort of 3rd party in that private conversation did you know what I mean it used to leave you in the rehearsal room what would you have to put on an album for your band members. Travis you hardened. My internet connection dropped out there for sex I know things are going to spend. Yeah I mean I don't I mean I'm with you don't to be honest on this album I mean it's I mean I'm I'm it's great that for the call it kind of does evoke the eighty's and it's a very eighty's record. You know this is a record about the City minus strike you know that we were the Black Sea And this bit of this record about possible nuclear war and concerns about the Russians obviously and he's wearing he's kind of literally and influence is very heavily. You know 2 and right but as you say I think it's it was a much Wolf much more fun record fisting himself to me to make. Joe. Indulgent I think it's a he did it you has persons. Young man as a jazz player so that show so you get to work with you know some of their own this amazing playing on the record yeah yeah you know we're not hanging. Branford Marsalis right Axelsson it's. Kind of you know it's a lovely book I mean we loved about the police that. Is left behind it and I just wanted to tell you if Jill has in some This is not precisely when she says it's an indulgent album as much as she loves it it's indulgent. here he deserve the the right to be indulgent are to the success of the police but sting to something that's coit the it's incredibly brave that has to be recognize in the context this album which is coming out of a band so phenomenally successful across the whole the world hey the end lays down the gauntlet op to it to the stay to pop music can it's the kind of terms that he used to talk in at at this point in as a 8 he said that he felt the popular music was dead and the reason the it was dead was it it was racists go there ruined the reason it was a racists was there was no more READY it was no rue the black music musicians he felt so what did he do he formed a band and tiley of lack jazz musicians and he challenge the listener as as he than challenge each every single one of those members of these band than in sell to say can't jazz music and can pop rock music be brought together to of and and and and in the song writing and the playing in the form of the pop single itself and heath and he the and he and i have to answer all of that you you know no absolutely not there is it the the answer is a resenting success sting with this requisition tremendously brave and successful record at their lyrical things that traverses talked about a far far reaching and very prescient on moved the time where music where people what do marmie get musicians to lay down that political affiliations and this is a musician that doesn't have to enter nist i'm a ensure whatsoever all i want to add to its or no will to do is done this joe a you're able to don's of the sober rule has soon i want to do you own goads who club here these juno harry of the radio going to our a don's a you able to don's of this real good jew were only be learned from once that them freeze quite cali's a money go One Sting song on all of my ones that I've saved and I'm considering singing another thanks to them let your soul be your pilot is my favorite stink song of of all his solo stuff the rest would have to be the place stuff and not saying it I don't rate him as you know as a as a solo musician he's always had great success and still remains very much in demand now but he has opposed the good and I know this is this is it will be popular but with this with the stuff he did with the place it was undeniably as you point out he was extremely popular they were huge and as you say he was very brave Yeah and he went off and did his own thing but that he in doing that. Yet but he started to be a bit kind of as this is all very cool inverted commas and it's great and it shows he seems saying look this is what I can do and this as we were hearing from Travis and here. You have to you have to put this in context of what Travis just said that Sting was always a jazz musician that's And then he had had an intimate relation if that's the right word with the police then the police firm is not a word you'd associate with the police and the album. A largely part of the 1st hour which is got a call of a sense of your ballots. About a quite hard going I mean really they did the right there's a lot of great singles where the police think there's not necessarily a great album by Africans Joe you go 3 blokes to govern a problem to talk about a record and you go for it to go majors What's the best track on the oh. Well I you know I I do like that one shudders in the rain but it's really the lyrics not. Just that I'm surprised that a crazy jumping around song I was thinking about you could let me down to that really been sort of a Pogo type thing. So you. Appreciate it Joe thank you very much and I suppose I was being disingenuous you deftly dogs to every single one of those just so when you come in off the back of. Love somebody that was mentioned was it was written as an antidote to every breath you take just to just to correct the mayor's biggest Yeah I would actually just want to go on the record that was entirely opposed to theory with no relevance to reality and I argue I was guessing when I said was he was it for his band members and senators who said I don't that's not placed on any facts whatsoever Holden's where you guess I guess we're not allowed Pennsylvania's with us. Good morning to you fine thanks very much are you a fan of Sting's. And thank goodness interesting before I was a fan of the police. And. Not what you actually read them or thank you that I'm sorry you're one of those who bought the album. Yes because millions of us didn't. Just have one of those albums it was with the nobody boots it was that when when Campbell did that single women were schooled about 14 people me. As not being disingenuous they don't know a chart for every war Well the blitz insoles was a Number 3 album what do you know what the jury with the blue jackets who actually refers to have. Any idea yeah I wouldn't I mean I kind of think it's I mean it may. Be tuna itself is very concrete and. It is free and I can get an idea of you know from looking in the waves and I can get an idea of you know what turtles having fun in the ocean that would be my guess but I didn't really analyze it that much is it like androids dreaming of Electric Sheep is it something like. I don't. Know I genuinely enjoyed the probably do dream of a legend she does that a child is obviously. You know I mean it's well that's I mean that was it was it was so dreamy had about sort of that much of a mind a kind of ecological bit in there somewhere I mean said it was a direction he had to just kind of rigorously It is great. In that you know I think that would be the other thing for P. About became a great kernel if he had a chance to go on a much more socially conscious. Direction when he did when he went with dream of the turtles I mean he was able you know I was I was a child of 19 eighties you know Cold War the oh the day after and all of those movies about you know nuclear annihilation and so on and so coming out with the Russians and with the Russians was like an anthem for for myself and I think probably a bunch of other kids of my generation just you know that was shared and then I did this and I was really. When it comes on and the other thing I wanted to say was that I was actually from Maine and Samantha Smith wrote that letter to. About him and she went over to Russia are you regret the children of Russia and I don't remember that she was just the cutest self-esteem to have a. Child I think and. I think it would then. You know kind of and. I need yeah very conscious it was a very social conscious thing for you know the U.K. And funny isn't there are a lot of things going on. That Russian leader and who probably not even remember it if it wasn't for that let's study for go about you know he didn't live he wasn't in China very long with. Maybe you know if I remember not very long at all and you want to mention as well that. Just as well when they leave the groups they start off with other a new poem from Michael Jackson. And Beyonce the woman I was thinking of and I remembered it because there was a little bit of controversy kind of surrounding it down already after Creedence Clearwater Revival there and yes yes and he went on to have a solo career and I remember hearing somewhere that like me pretty he went with a different producer something into some career and they sued him or something they wanted they sued him for his material because it sounded too much like Creedence Clearwater Revival because of the point. Which I thought was kind of. Your voice maybe she said. You're trying to pretend that your creed is Claire would survive this because he's sorry for all the peoples. Transfer history and tell you just electronic stuff. Season for making an album which doesn't sound like. Could be a road not ever thank you very much you see what you started off now these 3 guys in the pub are going to spend the next hour just talking about. Rubbish there. It was actually you know a bad one actually in the scheme of things I tell you that it wasn't a bad it was in a padded terrible way out loves it sex on these issues by the. Peter Gabriel of the Dead this is Rob of the who called his office Genesis. Richard Thompson also Fairport Convention says I feel even paid city regards to. Do just as well when they when. I'm actually lying here listening to this in a blue Churchill's T. Shirt for whatever it was still fits me and I'm 50 fold you. Will anyone else C.B.C. 5 St Paul good morning this is not on 5 Live I'm Dawson added but then I need some fine lines to brag that Secretary Woolsey you the U.K. Will walk away without the deal and in sports your crew.
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