Fabulous to have you in this morning thank you very much indeed for coming in say NY What You Got It is you got to go and have an egg and Karen and a glass of wine I'm sure she will accept it I say I'm I'm ready glass of wine amidst a laugh it's too early that yes it is I would still want to want to but I will make that thank you very much indeed for coming in here listening to B.B.C. Radio London it's patchy with the until 7 we're going to continue with our conversations in just a few moments time to fast to get your latest news headlines now with Greg Mackenzie. On digital radio and T.V. . And in this crazy news station. B.B.C. Radio longer. A man has died after being stabbed in is Ling's him police say he was attacked on opposite treat around half past 6 last night no arrests have been made for America London Ken Livingstone says he's resigning from the Labor Party he's been suspended over allegations of anti Semitism following his comments on B.B.C. Radio London that adult Hitler had one time supported Zionism Glyn Seca is the secretary of Jewish Voice for labor he's told B.B.C. Radio London he didn't believe the format was anti sematic many of us lost family in the Holocaust so we're resolutely opposed of course to anti semitism but we're also opposed to the misuse of charges of anti-Semitism and. Actually groups of people one are less going into law in support of Jeremy Corbyn and the 2nd are the people who are supporters of Palestinian chairman rights today marks a year since a suicide bomber killed $22.00 people leaving a concert at the Manchester Arena a service of commemoration at Manchester's cathedral will be attended by the juke of Cambridge and the prime minister. 800 people were left with physical and psychological injuries among them is Jacqueline Fletcher who explained some of the problems she's experienced in the past year surprises. Me and would come to get a look on social media accounts of those passed away and feel like I had some sort of relationship with them even though I never knew them you feel you're a fit for feeling the way you do even though you wasn't even so sure any physical injuries being something that I didn't have my life every single day since it's happened and he has the mileage difficult I'm sure will continue to difficult for everyone else as well as. Is the 2nd day of the public inquiry into the grand felts have a disaster there will be 2 weeks of statements from family and friends before evidence begins into what caused the fire in the west London tower block last summer housing secretary James Brokenshire pay tribute to the Commons I know this will be an incredibly difficult time for all those affected. The whole house will join me I'm sure in sending the force and prayers and I am determined to ensure that no community sucks again as they have done and the Home Office is planning to give greater legal protection to police drivers who are involved in a row crash during a pursuit the reforms follow concerns among officers that they risk prosecution for careless or dangerous driving if they chase criminals at high speed Chief Inspector Richard Smead welcomes the proposed changes place officer always operate real training within the law and what it will mean is that they will have the confidence that when they are discharged in the agencies that they are going to be judged against somebody with the same training and knowledge and skill that one of their colleagues would have rather than the public London's weather now another fine am warm day ahead but the risk of a few showers later top temperature today 23 degrees Celsius that's 73 degrees Fahrenheit B.B.C. Radio and then it's now 4 minutes past 5 and it is the sixty's can see Chinese burnable. Stockroom this is longer what issues are front and center among the small electric lights constant Chelsea and 6 beers B.B.C. Radio announcer. And a very good morning to this is B.B.C. Radio London and it's Petrie here with you through until 7 o'clock it's Tuesday the 22nd of May a talking this morning of course about Manchester I mean or it's the 22nd today so it's a year on since the attack at that Ariana Grande Day concert in Manchester targeting little girls really those are the people that go to those concerts. The killer walking into the foyer and just blowing up people there as they were leaving leaving the concept so it's a year on there will be many things to mark this in Manchester today as a whole program of events that's being set up to remember. You know many people 22 families had their lives blown apart that day. And it's so painful still to talk for people to talk about this is as I said I met one of the mothers who lost her son that day and she's an extraordinary woman because she's been able to forgive and genuine genuine to she's broken by it heart broken completely and is spending the day today at home with her sons ashes. Because that's where she feels most comfortable but she has been able to forgive. Quite an extraordinary situation and she's was able to do that when she saw the photograph of the bomber and she realised that she was looking into the face of a child basically a boy a boy killed my son. And that boy is as much a victim to the poisonous ideology as asked by some was and says she's been able to. Find in her heart the extraordinary woman really one of the most impressive people I've ever met. And I've met a lot of impressive people but she's she's right up there an extraordinary woman and able to do something that I know I could not do so it goes out to all of those in Manchester today that lost somebody a year ago all said Julie Rigg basic family of course because it's 5 years today as to the marks that horrendous horrendous and evil day on London streets and we've got other Unfortunately we've got other things to anniversaries coming up haven't way as well Westminster Bridge bar market so that coming up as well acts of terrorism against this capital against this nation so I'm asking you where how you feel about it how you changed your life have you at all I have you altered the way that you live your life in London are you aware of it does it does it does it fill your waking moments do you think about it at all I'm not sure I do really but do you and I'm and we've had shall all this morning on the phone saying we should bring back the death penalty and this is text as well. From day who's in Weybridge Good morning B. Terrorism is treason as far as I'm aware it should be tried as such a problem is I think the treason still carries the death penalty up in trying to look that up actually be. And I'm not I cause I'm I thought it did as well but I think it's being law it's been commuted to life imprisonment now. But yeah it certainly was the death penalty but I think it's been created to since 1908 . The maximum punishment for high treason became life imprisonment but still I take your point but it's it should be tried as treason is it treasonous act what should we do about it some still we're still talking about that because it is a year since that all for bombing Also this morning moped crime as you had there we Greg in fact it's been it's been in the bulletins all morning. Police drivers will have more legal protection if they're involved in a crash in a bid to tackle criminals all mopeds as part of home office plans I mean I just if they're involved in a crash we don't want the police crashing into all the cars I would be very happy if it was me. Or chasing mopeds on to pavements I mean we know these kids they are children the average age of a moped criminal is 1515. That I mean they obviously they think they can just drive around with impunity exactly how much is off and that they they reckon they're not going to get chased well they've been told now that they can be chased However the moment they go onto a pavement the moment they you know I'm thinking they can to be straight in places like that where just where is the pedestrian eyes the moment that they do that they're putting us in danger as well is it the right thing to do to allow these chases or do we need to stamp out this this crime and this is any way to do it because they think they can get away with it. I'm really torn on this I'm really torn on it because I just have a sense that these criminals who don't really care about us in the 1st place going to mount pavements in order to get away from the police because the police come out pavements so they'll just find another way to get away from the place is going to make things worse. I weigh 107312000 text one triple 3 and start with the words London B. Has done this morning those 2 to Carolyn who's in back to say good morning Carolyn good mornings catch a. I have asked them the concerns about mopeds on the walls panel member of neighborhood watch caught in a chilling buses state and we do have gang related issues going on all the time and they're increasingly using those and i Pads Those Christians who have gone in to the jewel as they are they are vicious that does a shift in my consent to stay off fleeing day Wilma pavements they will plow into they couldn't care who they plowing to be a push chair to say that it will get anybody or me won't anybody get off on it that look at that video game sales think of what they've seen on the American gangster stuff that look at that L.A. All those Las when they bought out all those famous ones that they said what's fueling missed the things I watch on You Tube It will just give them more heroin more heroes dices and I'm worried they just push on the death front and then they have no compassion they have no they are so full on that it's like that they're like oh they're like a robot they're not human that kind of loss that humanness but they all somebody's son and do we want you know are we just going to have many more deaths that we have to mourn because wherever they get into these gangs or whatever is going on where they have to flee and get an identity that whatever days they still were a baby to someone and they're still someone's son and I were just going to have a look as well you kind of have an exactly Karen another one saying that the 50 average age of 15 I mean you can just see the headline we don't have the death penalty for 1st being a. Criminal on a moped anatomist the county and with the county lines that ages between $10.13 so if they are in the gang and the gangs buying them an act to cut out the gangs dynamics and the gangs buying them night China is there in the system that being way is a given that except in slave a given men shall we call to get in at that point we've got to resort to the condoms we've got a resource to give says she's We don't cut we sow Council it's a into schools RINGBACK we get them in the audience where they say them we bring that amazing system of bank and Salah into schools to tell them all happens in a stand is I don't know whether you follow it but they are just about on to have that amazing trust set just running a very hard hitting knife crime story line that she has that is based on you know all these countless I think those kind of things the way you get the message out because you show them that they'll have stoma some never be able to walk again if they do survive these crimes and don't get killed they will live with life changing injuries like you know it is not like a game where they get up and brush themselves down and the gun goes away those guns and those knives will kill and they increasingly now going against each other it's to the tat they cross the road we haven't learnt to like Di Maio to take territory they're on the wrong side of the road they will be pursued they will take them out and they will that's just what they chose sexual but you know the retribution is if you remove them you don't just do them over you do them in and I'm really struck by that Royal London surgeon that's just one N.H.S. Heroes award that spoke from the Roland and he said they're not going to just do each other Rosa their aim is to do each other Raine so that situating placed we find out really is chilling and even S.E.'s to their cause talking about the fact that a lot of stamp victims are being stitched up in. You know by any means and killings yes they've got to that but not in the way the sit in the distance and I've heard moms now on just gushing and bang they they feel at risk that they will frisk them they will search them before they leave their home they will check how many kitchen knife sites got that doing that kind of like canary because that that terrified that they want to have that child come and I just I mean this car imagine somebody stitching up their own child who's been allowed to be not rushed and strikes also brought in cash what repercussions would be the risk so if that this an infection that child nicely I complications of that turning into a back street it's like the backstreet abortions there will be a consequence and so be a consequence Absolutely and I mean that is what's so worrying but Carolyn again that's a moped crime if yes don't pursue I mean you know. If police stupid. Going to. Be weeks before is bad and I'm sure yes I'm sure you aren't a concierge thing for that for long because of what we've discussed but if we proceed then then at the moment this is why it's one of the fastest growing crimes across the capital they can do it with impunity so what is the I Will I want to put a heads up to everyone listening to not walk along the road on the edge of the road on the latest I 510 shout your head off don't play your I tunes together you are being watched but watch the guns watching other people people tell me to F. Off excuse my language my my business don't tell me what to do I'm trying to stop you being a victim they watch you you advertise you're on immobile they will take it I've been in a situation in fact a state down by Clapham Junction where I had a Filipino guest a a number of years ago and they ripped the necklace off her neck now they rode up on a boat on pushbikes So right. Did aesthetic and he physically lift that necklace off had no I mean it made you know it made an injury on her neck they will stop at nothing but if you walk along the street as though you're in your own house all not so you are making yourself a target and you I think you fuel him to go after more and more people because you are making yourself very fun ripple and it's just the play I walk around on your devices I mean I'm shallow that you know yeah I do it lots of people that of course use the maps on my phone and I'm always aware when I'm using I'm out on thing or parky and I'm actually working on holding this expense yes equipment and the end of May It is yeah but I think think I mean think I think about it I think go into a building pop into a pub going to go into a cost a coffee shop don't derail you know Gentilly on the street because again I've just that's my play really well we totally even you know I see people particularly in the summer song might rise with their hand on the table yes they're they do they do and the kids that they think they're in their own little bubble people watch them on the buses that's one of my big but Bessie's where I know everybody's life because bass wiring and I know everything about the conversation that's gone wrong with someone we haven't told them the ethics no screaming of No it's kind of I don't know invading everybody's space with their lives they don't get it they don't realize I hate everything when they shout down the phone on speaker phone to their friend they don't have a problem with that idea. Of silence I grew up with no mobile phones I'm old Stu I'm pre-law you know we grew up with phones that you put the money we didn't have any this stuff and I don't think we were the worst off for it took me a long time to agree to try will know all my. These androids I wasn't kidding in the least I had a number I had some of the other day in absolute truth buying something the phone reading out my card number this is a I'm not salaries a 3 digit number on the back the employees oblivious Arafat will only be around completely oblivious to the fact that an aim their drastic work is being sent to everything every identity right edge and worry about Internet people DO IT people at the tides themselves very prominently and if we can just move to Grenville Sorry no Grenville Mind you that is on my mind a lot but we can just move to the munchies yet or stand at the street Myin it's a money range and just today I came up from the strike into Captain junction Styron rang and they nearly said this is a real fire alarm in each evacuate station the minute I heard that alert I So who's in this building who's leaving a device reportedly against a slash through night that because I'm a nurse and watch the Westminster Bridge I trained at St Thomas's So when I look at the carnage of Westminster Bridge that was the bridge I used to follow 89 years to get from where I lived and worked in to the rest of London it felt like a huge assault now the Borough Market the 1st Sunday morning that they opened saw that cathedral I went to the service and they read that name out and we lit candles for every victim and then I walked on to London Bridge and stole the seas of flowers and education left to the people that died in diary market and you can't but be filled by the thought that it could be your neighbor or it could be your brother it could be your sister and it is in the city of London and we came under attack and I've always thought why don't you have bollards at the front and the back of every bridge. Because the sitting target and I felt London Bridge was prison preventable that I find really haulage But listen I'm going to do think about is a lot when you're out in about oh yes you do I did well when I 1st went to that service I balked it was in a we sense that the people are to go on before if you like that it died you felt that presence with you when you walked back out and passed for a market where they'll said this is still under police investigation and there were flowers left all across the closed gates of bara market you couldn't escape it it was right there on the seas of flowers and also I was very conscious Such a few pictures on my mobile Do you know I raised all that's a chunk of faith because I suddenly felt that I had intruded stuff and there were there were there were foreign trip that will suffer and visited shall I say being brought to it is so it was the tariff law needed and I felt that was really wrong for me yeah really sickening and I So you know I need to raise all that it's not appropriate it's like a 911 I don't think there should be a museum to 911 selling things as the rays in New York and I suddenly felt I had no place to type those photos and I could say a prayer like a candle but I really shouldn't go into the whole event saying have you know I just sort of it was not very or spot it's interesting yet and so I read her letters biotech yeah oh my goodness you're such a brilliant Caller Thank you so much for calling and I hope you get the chance to speak through than we thought was when she very much are doing really thank you take care of wonderful day Carolyn. Yes the concerns that I have with the change. In the rules for police have more legal protection if they're involved in a crash I'm just on the off chance if there are any police offices listening. That particularly drivers police drivers I'd like to hear from you as to how you feel about this we can change your name it and have yo yo real name but also a moped right as. Do you share my concern that she with a moped all you need to do really is to is to to continue your criminality continue breaking the law by by riding on the pavement so going into even riding into his chops to get away from the police because the police compass you everywhere can they in a call we can have something I want West sort of chases down down oxygen region stray I don't know and is that what we want to see do and do we need to I'm very torn on this because on one hand we know that these criminals this crime is rising because they know all they feel they know they won't be pursued. So they can do it with impunity so if we proceed it will be just playing into the hands I don't know if you tell me. 871-2000 Nigel I've spoken to you for a while I was. Very very sorry if I mixed 3 me well what do you cannot say you all are busy busy busy crime crime or more problem. Ready or funny face. Off astray of all places yes just just a quick reminder as it was a 2 streets today is just a remote what you ask busy or was don't stop terrorism those who think they are not any good because. You just drive a truck into any other street in a matter of all those or concrete posts you know so you know let's not forget any terrorist and harvesting car or truck or that. We were. Just. Historical record. For the journals but. Most of the front I do understand accounting was saying you are a photographer and it is your job to. To keep a record of this kind of. Stuff but it's different to treat it as a terrorist is now you know I think. People. Like. Distasteful obviously. Because I'm. 64. Figures. If you along with. The likelihood of you being attacked or having a history. With. A friend of mine who's a captain in the retiring next year. And freely you probably will push him over on the cycle he's not going to get up again and then move up in the other direction if your. Nation to police chasing. vehicles Ready and. The suits are for those opposed to the word choice. recently Ready has been to road traffic collision involving vehicles. Vehicles with police of part of the office to the military to the London I think clearly older goal and visual recall of these events must be on the whole time and you can't have police ramming people. There you think really really America think. The movie was a boxer because. If you're a motorcyclist a movie driver all of the world. And you engage police and you fail to stop by the. Police indicated to do so and you remove your helmet gaging police then if you full of your body you deserve. I know but unfortunate as just not the way it will be seen is it we know Nigel the headlines we can see them. We can see a 15 year old killed in police chase that would be the headline in and everybody that knows that 15 year old to come out and say he was a lovely boy and was the best people in school or whatever it is that they say. And suddenly the police would be the villains and the pacing around was driving the bike. But on the flip side indicating a bandage just not once but twice the several times a person stopped and. A lack of skill. Terminations. And elude police officers I'm sorry. Of course you have a choice of words or a crowded shopping on the stern of. But in reality the police resources. Launched. A new go to. Another Tell us. They were using. Motorcycle ready scrambling side. These people have never been chased. They were using undercover spotters so if they see these people they will other places. They're not going to see this. Not. So. Very good and one could argue. We can have a society where your last caller suggested quite rightly. Friend can go out without. Having to resort. To the. It's interesting in America. This type is very few between because they know they will be ready I mean they do it they're going to get the consequences ready they don't want this thing if it's really stupid and it's been much conversation about this if the police do. Then isn't motorbike write them a paid writer just going to get. In a planned escape they are just going to go on to pavements possibly into sharks consummated you do anything to get away. Quite probably German refuse or the most dangerous robbery or ever remember in this country's history though the military goes. On. To bring crush up. In the morning and the doors because. Clearly we have the police. Ready Council so what they do. What they don't we need to please. To be strong assertive and demonstrative been chattering and preventing crime and they are very good. Do it do we almost briefly if we can do we almost need them to chase no matter what the cost in order to bring down the gangs. Who really do the severest surgery aggressive terms of. What it would call the service we're dealing with all the trials of violent crime whether it be a bloke Kerry ready alive. Or woman who were woman or a person on a motorcycle literally intimidated attacking. Robbery people streets shots at bus stops her to her boat they cannot be allowed to run around in other words like a highway live in the same lady with a history which is exactly what they're doing at the moment isn't it Nigel thank you very much indeed for that you're listening to B.B.C. Radio and we will continue with our conversations in just a few moments time but right now it's catch up with the latest news headlines your travel any sport starting with Matthew Schofield. Good morning the former London mayor Ken Livingstone says he's resigning from the Labor Party he was suspended in 2016 after comments he made about Hitler and Zionism on B.B.C. Radio London Mr Livingston says he doesn't accept that he's guilty of anti Semitism or bringing labor into disrepute but his case has become a distraction for the party Jeremy Corbyn says it's a sad moment but the right thing to do a man in his twenty's has died in a stabbing in turn Police say he was attacked an OPP a street to the around 630 last night so far no one's been arrested he's the 4th fatal stabbing victim in London in 5 days the public inquiry into last year's fire a grand photo will continue hearing statements from families of the 72 people known to have lost their lives later yesterday 6 family spoke about why. They went through on the night of the fire including a father whose new baby was stillborn just hours after he his wife and 2 daughters managed to escape and the Home Office is planning to give greater legal protection to police drivers who were involved in a collision during a pursuit follows concerns among officers that they risk prosecution for careless or dangerous driving if they chase suspects at high speed London's weather mostly dry and bright again more warm sunny spells but there could be a few thundery showers as well and top temperatures of $23.00 Celsius $73.00 Fahrenheit now with the B.B.C. Radio London travel his bill Sheldrake. Good morning Matthew well think is cross for the trains where they again for this morning the 2nd week day for the new timetable for Thameslink south eastern Great Northern Southern and the Gatwick Express I've been scouring those large parts boards for you so far spotted the cancellation of both Thameslink and upright it's a Bedford line that's far Lance and and also spotted a delayed service from Luton to glance at St Pancras which has a 30 minute delay so do check you up to check before you travel and use for the chips I'm afraid Victoria Line severe delays while they fix a signal failure at 7 Sisters hopefully that should be sorted before the start of the Russia now it's. Early in the morning as the Victoria Line. Math teacher supported up a street close in both directions for a section by the police I had this on the cameras because of the ongoing investigation since last night and L's courts one close off for electricity work on the. Northbound carriageway just bike trip of a road and Westminster traffic lights not working properly on horse forwards just by the junction with Martian streets to keep those updates coming for you can tweet us at B.B.C. Travel alert or give us a call 807312000 which is the usual number of course with phone ins it's well a bill Sheldrake B.B.C. Regulus in trouble next up. Just before 6. B.C. Radio. Host the London School is from 66 to one outsider just 2 weeks ago to a power elite racing certainty Arsenal looks set to appoint you know I am arrears their new manager this week the Spaniards just left Paris where he won 5 major trophies in 2 years including a domestic treble this season and prior to that he won the Europa League in each of his 3 seasons at severe with the B.B.C.'s David Ornstein has more it will of course shocked many because it. Was in pole position but I'm assured that this was a decision that everybody had are among the arsenal hierarchy were satisfied with he doesn't speak perfect English I'm told that won't be a problem it's not fluent but he is set to be confirmed towards the end of this week any Luko says she's excited to be joining a European club after being frustrated at a lack of playing time for Chelsea ladies this season she says everything's been agreed with her new club but she's not in a position to announce it just yet help Chelsea to the league and cup double this season and scored in her final game for the club at Liverpool on Sunday but she says it's time to move on I could have stayed. It was an option for me but I think for me I still for a lot of got a lot to give but for me now it's about a different experience it's about playing games I've never done before landing in a language being at my company I think everyone understands and I think the club behind all the fans getting on my team mate Paul gust odd says he'll be ready to become head of rugby at Harlequins when he steps down as England defense coach this summer Quinn's finished 10th in the Premiership and of look to the former Saracens coach to breathe new life into the club which last won a major trophy in 2012 starts says he's ready to become the main man I've never been a head coach by name after lots of responsibilities like that for for multiple years and different things to. Weeks and months develop skills certain I've learned from people at the learn to be like Mom called running events and all the coaches previous that the team matches the world and so on so to do that you need to be the one thing I'll be able to then move the mike quickly to another and that's one of the show and demonstrate of the of the next 4 weeks cricket I'm sorry lost to Hampshire by 4 wickets in the latest one day Cup match at the Rose Bowl tennis and the 3 times champion Serena Williams won't be seeded for this year's French Open which starts on Sunday it will be her 1st Grand Slam since the birth of her daughter last year but the French Tennis Federation says the seedings will be based on the world rankings and Williams is currently 453rd and cycling 0 to Talia resumes the softer noon after yesterday's rest day with Britain's Simon Yates in the lead by 2 minutes and 11 seconds B.B.C. Radio London it's 536. This is London one thing I love and sometimes I can tell jokes right listen to some of the drives around London is a couple that needs to be addressed with some really cool change lined up for you guys where ever you are we know the people in this medium Cox Great job was back at bay Rocco the deputy catalyst was the best kept secret this is longer than. The radiator lantern. And a very good morning to you this is B.B.C. Radio London Petry with you until 7 o'clock this Tuesday the 22nd of May this morning talking of course about the Manchester Arena bombing and the 1st anniversary today that specter that hangs over people who have been through this kind of horrific events we always know that the 1st anniversary is the worst isn't it or at least it feels like it when it's coming out. So today there will be many tributes to those who were taken at the area on a grand day. Concept 22 people went to a pop concert and never came home 22 families had their lives torn apart Manchester marks the 1st of many painful anniversaries some say their lives feel free as an in time. Rather Fed who lost her 17 year old daughter Chloe sad I'm still stuck there I'm still stuck on the 22nd of May I don't see that changing any time soon. As I said I've spoke to feed and from. Who Some was killed that day that night and she's remarkable remarkable woman who has been vilified really for forgiving the terrorists that blew up her son amongst the others he was one of the 22. Because people can't understand it and I don't understand it to be perfectly honest with you I'm absolutely certain that I could not be as generous as she has been in our hearts and how she. Made up my mind to forgive the terrorist the moment she saw the photograph of what she described as the child the young boy the boy that killed my son and she said that she realized at that moment that he was a victim of the same ideology as her some was. Incredible woman really one of the one of the nicest best people I've ever met in my life really made an impact on me. Still we're talking today about terrorism and we've got our own anniversaries coming up in London to let's let's not forget I'm sure we will not forget Westminster Bridge our market. To name 2 Finns Republic as well there was a Muslim wasn't there who lost his life there too so there are things that we've got to reckon with in London and I just wonder if terrorism has really changed London if it's really changed you if it's changed the way you feel it's also the 5th anniversary today of the brutal slaughter of of Lee Rigby Fusilier. Rigby who. Was run over by a car then was attacked. And they're tempted to decapitate him it was one of the most bloody and brutal. Sights on London streets for many a long time so I'll never forget those brave women while he went up to the 2 killers. Extraordinary day that was 5 years ago 5 years ago. As of war and of war Lay was now at a at a blank. And out of Orly they were the 2 killers so. 5 years since Lee Rigby was killed and what it. Why does today only speak 200 late in New Addington how many feels like it was yesterday doesn't it the leave it the killing. The good morning to you the more knowledge speaks to a dogma earlier on what they are was a lost cause I couldn't get to explain everything that I wanted to say OK because. In my. Family my grandmother. Brother was for to do for his war. On my grandmother's son if I did the 2nd World War Wow my cousin he came here in 155 I rejoined the army I was based in Germany you know so I've got a very soft spot for the Army and I think that. You know they should be more action are so many more probably read The Because he gave up his life to protect those people like murdered and that is what hurt me I can never I will never see anything as target as that as long as I really. Are no problem to 81 and I live in this war into a 57 hears I tell you night and day out just waited for somebody to come out and talk about lyrics be because I think. A man. Protected in coal country do all the recognition and somebody's going to murder in the car it was really his army I mean to was you know I think there's nothing nothing in it for the stroller that my life as it was to have ever seen an experience that night I agree with you it really was. The most brutal. I don't know I mean it's it was everything was not just everything fine and what you saying this should be true that I. Did that encouraging young people to join the army because what the you know this money is given a big life to protect those people and murdering And so what do you want people to look at it and say well I'm not joining the Army because when I called I will be able to get a job and we're in the army they get everything provided for them I want to come all they irritate is the mechanics know to pay our rent because they get everything done for the very army and so do walk into one Don't history date and they can get a job. In August of it that they really skirted young people or join the army they have to find some way. Even them so more busy are something and his family you know is badly treated badly treated badly by this waited because those. Murderess it isn't my tax money that I wrote so I look into them you know eat it and drink it out of the food and clean table things and do everything I lay wife and family. To suffer and I will ever get over that never you know so I don't know why I'm with you I have a great love for the armed forces I work with them for many years. And I have a great love and respect and support for for the men and women that really do give up so much even if you know even if they don't give up their lives in terms of dying in the battlefield or dying on home turf they give up their families they give up that time seeing their children grow up they give up so much so much to protect us all and and as you said when they leave the armed forces has very little support or help for them which is a national shame Raney for adults too but there were killed my own good timing for the 2nd world war he control all me really and place every time they have been a reunion a couple you know there's a Prius there for a Caribbean soldiers and people from the Commonwealth Yup I mean they are used to the BE DONE things like that every vote here every evening you know. I was living in and you know we told him couple I'm just. We just walking around to the army please the idea is to make sure that he never makes one because every time to support that idea much less that live in America our son I've been to Iraq twice and I tell you you don't keep don't help for more than a week every week you see. Them all they know they're going to. To take his Prius away from him because he cannot keep up time Secondly Piers Bob. You know I'm back to America was supposed to be look it up as soldiers are fighting for them all the time and also. It's really terrible that so I don't know what's going out we have to record young people or join the army but if you know why they get no recognition radio more I mean. How do you encourage that if they don't and and as you rightly point out I mean I did a documentary on the arm for the homelessness and on that and reflecting the number of X. Forces members who were homeless who were living on the streets and I mean it was there was a noun that used that I went out with who swore like a trooper I mean she just was the most incredible woman but she absolutely had a potty mouth but she was talking about how the armed forces they do everything for the for the men and women while they're in and they don't even know how to write a check or to start of the have open a bank account or do anything and they get passed out the other end with 12 grand or whatever it is money they spend her on a car and then that left they've got nothing they're not taught how to live in the real wells as well knowing that I was shot that I do not think so the guy writing in Dunbar many arming you know so. That is why I think that people who come out of prison go back to their point they get everything done for them there are when I called their last did you see a day I had a box embracing the 1st glance yet I don't know what because they told when to eat went to sleep but you know everything and when they come out or when they come out the army they're just they're just completely lost I think that's changing now I think there are now when there's that leaving the armed forces now they go on training courses and they do all these different things but they didn't they didn't have to kill reasonably recently. To Toe cheer and thank you very much indeed I'm always appreciate a fellow supporter of the armed forces. It's your wonderful day and you have a lot of Europe you've got the good work I would say to you every night because I can I do not sleep I know where you come from. Something to one night and I want to scream so I listen to your lovely to have your company and please do call again Holly and have a lovely doll of the name as well and have a lovely day is great too thank you very much indeed Hillary is on the line now from your high hell or you want to talk about Ken Livingstone finally in some regards resigning from the Labor Party yes that merit you say one word about your previous callers your just great the Ministry of Defense are doing so much more now and Robert usually June of course a charter about retired. Things which I sent to my M.P. And everything and I've had great letters I mean correspondence all the time about it because I didn't say they don't exist charter now and they're going to be doing also things you know. The rule British Legion I'm talking about yeah but I mean in terms of of training young men and women how to live in the real world as well because if they're going to last Yeah yeah and I mean in his last. Mistress or I had seen Michael Shiloh was when he retired or just stuck it out Margie thought numbers closely below to also just know it was interest separated or divorced spouses all civil pomos a transit as to the Armed Forces community and we will consider whether additional measures are necessary she said had occurred to try gesture it's wonderful what the got planned to do and I just wanted to. Give some hope to the very good call you just had Yeah if you can living it yeah can Livingston I mean I think he's done the wise thing whether he wants to get back into politics the guy. Rather take the call from under the. He's the leader harshly by reason you know saying well I'm going to give it all up and I'm not going to. Go further with any action but whether he thinks there's something going to come out that he didn't want to come out one never knows yeah you never know I guess and also gives me I'm sorry with him with him resigning doesn't have the same impact as this call been to fight him no I don't think so I think Corbett Michel paternity to fire him and he shouldn't reentering around so much probably I don't know must be critical but. I think that to. Save maybe Livingston's going to come back into the political world you know perhaps he's going to join the new army that can mean putting his you know into tainted now and well I don't know I mean I know you know what's his name is going to start a new party is need Tony Blair or some may say perhaps she's going to join up with him I don't know who or what can't imagine not the last bastion. Who have mentioned it you know yeah it's not going to be what I'm on yeah he's never been the center he's never been central politics as he can no you know I used to work with him quite closely in one of my civil service job when he was. You know it's you know so I well know here's is delaying it and I get so on OK but I think. I think he's down the right saying allow what maybe we can all get on with our lives and you know really get on with his life has it's over the anti semitism around he said he's to no I to end it. I don't think so I mean that's going to simmer on and on and on for a bit I think and. I think Mystic organs got really doing something if he if he wants to get elected to be the prime minister one day he's not going to get elected if the whole of the Jewish community are. They lost this you know their way to what they thought they'd wait in Hampstead. In the local election if you know now recently due to the Jewish community must be really nice Well that's what people are putting it down to definitely Hillary that definitely saying that it hadn't had an impact and I just wonder if this is going to assuage anybody from that community the fact that Ken's resigning to my mind my feeling in my genuine feeling is that they would rather have seen Jeremy cope and take some kind of of action rather than than can instant jumping before potentially he was pushed Henry great. As usual thank you very much indeed for that saying that it looks like open channel to weakness and that Ken jumping really house and hout Dave is in best no brain this morning talking about moped crime Good morning Dave only page 3 cancer shut about me syllabus and her cohort. Can now see exactly what he's doing. I think he might that statement organises shower A hasn't it hasn't been it hasn't been on the same as a yes and said nothing else and done nothing this white boy during a series on in freezing about to start quoting again and Ken's good it might seem controversial. To get to 9 that Ken Livingstone's as ever done might controversial busy statements and that seen the front. He's quite a controversial figure you're absolutely right I mean if he has a pinhead. Publicly since their spot. Reiterated what he'd said. Yell out he hasn't a call to cosign under the life of man a man of panic that what he said yes is a already offering that he shall go all silent on like Josh N C R A said now he can get back at and publicly campaigning for the Labor Party because busy he's no suspension or a snowman but he can do it now he can do whatever you like so I can just 6 solar cold wind 6 Coleman told him to 66 always stifling Venezuela is the country to follow look closely you see the elections on South Americans. Age Freud I mean these people but chill so was the leader of the Labor Party and its merits London think that is the why he took out you know what chill she got what children want chills of the normal working clothes person is why we live bug out. Is that the more you want to try to stand. You know it's. Only you know only what you know the I think many people are looking at midday and seeing the same tend to be fixed elections there in the violence comes 3 I'm equating not with profit sharing that's the problem. But the phrase I'm not sure of a stand I buy for you is that the extinctions CASTRO Yeah whatever to knowing that he was unfortunate. That's what he did because otherwise socialism would have been whacking. The difficulty of the fat. Tissue Korea page very own place of these kids as a century of research are these kids do not listen to these programs do not watch local stop watch any I probably don't even watch Eastenders. And until they hear them I was being mangled or I'm told. That they're not going to walk out because I think they can get away with it that's the only thing that's going to change these kids doing the right call and is weighing on functionally 345 of them don't know I got well that's getting a bit dangerous we call points I guess. And it's a sad fact of the law. That reality is reality. And these kids can get away with impunity. And so we have a call that's a question I'm offering because I mean I can I can see this change saying they're doing it. With Danger yes but when you commit a crime. Often you're always trying to win the law if someone breaks in the already was just that friend. Surely you don't know in the process. You will for these kids almost if tidy if they wrangled themselves up. The police's fault their foot. Doing the calling you can you can exchange criminals and oh no no I'm not running a criminal there were criminal. We do I mean do you remember that case there was a very famous case where a. List sued a homeowner for having razor wire. Because they cut themselves on it when they were trying to break in a when they broke came and and they want to answer that Sheriff are we going down the road in Lonesome Senate so you can protect your own house. If he went on again he would want a simple. And well why is 8 the victim is punished more than the perfect i don't like saying it many times by saying. Proportionality isn't 10. Is that we don't kill 15 year old son mugging. Woman she got nothing picture I wanted I don't know I don't want anybody to top's but the tons of questions and tonight so will call I'm all among it is that you can camel and you can do it. So if you don't want to thought don't do that crawling through one happens if some i Pad is trying to break away trying to get away from the place mounted by men and women and to your mom. But you still call it people get why you would think we could have a Wasn't which is going to get worse and it will be Siamese to us to the rest of the rest but the end result. Like. A kind of hazy working you want to be the case we did some anonymous catch. Clues that there's a lovely Mike thank you very much like here's. What you call just because that could be the consequences of doing a cron you call just cause I'll tell you then you can do your coding Yeah but I'd be I'd be pretty ticked off if a foreigner these my page hit me with somebody that I cared about while saying you know you know I was picturing. The side effects but perhaps some saw and asked the psych something like that so why chop people when you call you call let these people carry old you know me or what do you think what do you do when you get a 15 year old when you actually can't you I think a lot and would give you 6 months suspended sentence. Yes that's a good well yeah I mean it is the other side of the coin that is the problem is that when we catch these these children nothing really bad can happen to them that's that's the truth of it Dave good luck with the 1st today and thank you very much indeed for calling in you're listening to B.B.C. 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