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Were not. Reporter the Islamic State group show beheading of american, james foley. Now were hearing throats to the u. S. We will drown all of you in blood. Rocket fire from gaza was followed by rocket strikes from israel. Calling for an immediate ceasefire talks. Americans are taking paid vacation. Americans take two weeks of paid rakes and then feel guilty about taking t. We begin with protests in the streets of missouri, as americans vent over the shooting of the death of 18yearold Michael Brown. The peaceful protest became violent, and the police came under heavy gunfire. And while 52 people were arrested on monday, jail records show 58 suspects were arrest, including 18 from out of state. The criminal elements that have come to ferguson and not from po month. Some of those arrested came from as far as away as new york and california. Meanwhile, Michael Browns mother, leslie mcfadden, said that the protests will continue until the Police Officer who shot her son faces justice. He will bring peace, i believe. Him being held accountable for what he did. Did. A grand jury begins on wednesday, but were street clashes continuing and other violence, polic the police ask for protests during the day. So they can focus on violators at night. We dont want to waive anybodys rights. Separate yourself. Less go to ferguson, with robert gray, and good to see thank you again. It seems that the people have not listened to captain johnson, and theyre out there tonight. Whats the mood on the street . Thats exactly it, antonio. They were not out on the street during the day, and they did not listen to captain johnson. You can see behind me, they are peaceful. Theres nothing going on thats out of the american choice here, and they are walking up and down in the about quarter mile space, going back and forth, saying hands up, dont shoot. So far so good from ferguson. A grand jury is set to hear the case on wednesday, and eric holder is coming to the area to supervise the response to all of this, and do you think that that might calm the situation . You know, people here want the grand jury, but they just a lot of the folks on the street today say we hope that this is a fair grand jury, that over the course of the week, as the people look at the evidence, and what occurred is 1 days ago, they want it to be fair. As far as eric holder coming into town, i think that a lot of people would rather see president obama come here, at least thats what theory telling me on the street. School has supposed to start five days ago, and now it has been put off until august 25th. I realize that this is a small part of the town of ferguson. Not everybody is out there on the streets, but are people in ferguson getting tired of the protests. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think that even the people out here protesting, a lot of the elders out here doing it peacefully. Some of the folks, the reverends and the people who have lived here for a long time are tired of it. They want to see life back to normal, but the underlying current, they want to see justice done for the shooting of Michael Brown. We have talked to a lot of students and a lot of kids Walking Around all day. And a lot of the moms and dads want to see their kids go back to school and return to a normal life. But they want justice, absolutely. A town of 20,000 people. And not everybody is out here. And we look at the arrest records showing that the big perjury percentage of people out here are not from the state of missouri. But they want peace and no tactical vehicles running up and down day and night. For more on the outsiders, who many blame for instigating much of the street violence in ferguson, im joined by justin law, who wrote a story that says that agitators have highlighted the protests. We have seen people from new york, california, illinois, texas, and other states who have been arrested. Who are these people, and how organized are they and what do they want . Not very organized. Some of the people that i wrote about in my story, the main group, agitating since wednesday, when it was a chaotic night, they are part of the communist revolutionary party, and theyre a small group, less than a dozen people. But they took advantage of a situation last night where protesters got really close to the police line. And one of their people stepped in and basically tried to incite a riot. One of those people who was involved, you wrote about these guys. And you have seen a video of a white manning arrested, chanting revolution, revolution. You wrote about joie johnson, trying to incite a confrontation, as well as people from ferguson trying to invent a confrontation. The kansas city star, this is something out of the distant past. He said we have a responsibility to be here. We are revolution ears, and we want an end to the system that criminalizes youth, specifically black youth. And what is it when you talk about communist youth and revolution. Are they concerned that the protests are being hijacked . It is just a small element causing these fights and clashes with the police, and its not just outsiders. Usually what happens is late at night, they will come out, and its not just about the death of mike brown, but its heavyhanded police action, and its not just these outsiders. But i the first time that ive seen this. Theyre saying, youre not even from here, what are you doing here . Were here to get justice for mike brown, and we dont care about what your larger cause is. Do you think that the outsiders are mostly responsible for the worst of the violence . The gunshots and the molotov cocktails . Or is there enough blame to go around . Its really hard to tell. I think that the people most responsible are the small and they are biding their time. They wait until the older people in the community are gone. The peace keepers who dont want to rush the police line. They will wait, or move to the back of the crowd, and thats when you see rocks and bottling thrown, and the police have cited molotov cocktailing thrown, and i havent seen a single one myself, but that doesnt mean that it doesnt happen. Gregory johnson representing reuters and this is what he had to say. Millions of people are living in this life of police brutality. And theyre afraid that this rebellion is git spread around the country, and thats whats going on. Does that kind of rhetoric have takers in ferguson . Im sure it does. People really paying attention to this, why is it that the police werent able to identify these people as possible trouble make, before it was too late. They have not been here the whole time, the group was responsible for getting people revved up in the crowd. And there was no doubt about it. They have pretty clear cut evidence that these are the people responsible for it. And i just dont understand why it took his efforts, and then the efforts of some people in the media to identify these people, and now the police are coming out and saying, look, its outside people doing this, and it seems to me that thats intelligence that they should have gathered on their own. You talk about the young protesterse, and how much of a divide is it between younger people who dont want the violence and younger people, who are more hotheaded. The Younger Generation is out there, and theyre clashing with the police as part of a reaction as what they feel is margization and the targeting of black men, not just here, but in inner cities across the country. Thats in the middle raining of people who identifies with the Younger Generation. And then theres the older generation, marching peacefully in the day. And they are kind of religious, and they have a religious aspect to what theyre doing, and then theres the younger crowd that really just wants chaos. Its an interesting divide from the people in the community. Thank you for bringing us your perspective. Which appreciate it. With protests continuing in ferguson, people around the country are wondering when and how this is going to end, and whether the officials could have done more to keep the protests from being violent. For more, im joined in santa barbara, california, a onetime California Police chief. Bernard, thank you for being with us, and the triggering incident was the august 9th shooting of Michael Brown, but when you look back at disturbances like this one, similar to the protest that hit cincinnati in 2001, the trigger is usually a flashpoint for an anger in the community that was always smoldering. Based on what the protesters are saying, that seems to be the case with ferguson, should the protesters be aware that that was what was going on with their own community . First of all, thank you for having me on, and secondly, i think in hindsight these things are always clear. Usually, the community resentment that expresses itself is too often ignored until these events occur. And as you say, the shooting incident in this case, because the death of mr. Brown in flashpoint, but its a lesson to communities across the country. Particularly where issues of race and economic disparity are concerned to pay closer attention. Have local authorities made it worse if they didnt release information early, and then they time released the name of the officer that shot brown, and they showed brown robbing the store and intimidating a store worker. Former Cincinnati Police chief, thomas striker, he said before officials are concerned, they have to engage the entire community and make them part of this resolution process. If they dont do that, they will fail. Do you agree . I absolutely agree. The reality of this, and ive watched this, and as have others, that there was a time in the beginning of this, when it might have been possible to get control of this in a peaceful fashion. And once order is restored and i have no doubt that it will be once order is restored, the Community Dialogue between the city leaders and the Community Leaders and the Law Enforcement will be absolutely critical for any success of anything that comes after this. And there are other flashpoints that have to be prepared. Talk to me about this. Violence, with people getting tired and we have seen this in the watts riots in 1965, but the reality is that the ferguson riots have lasted longer than the watts riots or the rodney king riots. There are two pieces that we have to look at. One is what is the role of people from outside of ferguson in inciting this violence is unrest. And today appear from news reports and sources that i have talked to inside of Law Enforcement, that there is a tension between the people who live in ferguson and the people who come from outside of t that is going to be need ing to be resolved. And if the people from ferguson can get the handle on that, and that dialogue, the healing can start, but the healing has to be linked to the second part, which is planning for future milestones as this unfold. Are you concerned about future flashpoints as the funeral for Michael Brown is set for monday . I would be concerned for that. And the officer needs to make a public appearance, and i think that all of this needs to be anticipated and planned for. Combined with that is going to be the need for a steady flo of information to the public. Do you think that as the grand jury convenes, and eric holder shows up and he says that the justice deposit preserves the right to protest. But violence will not be condoned. And do you think that that will be a dooling of cooling of things . I think that eric holders presence cant do anything but help. It certainly conveys the message that the top Law Enforcement official in this country is paying personal attention to whats going on there. And people i think need to realize that the real issue here is the death of Michael Brown, and the circumstances under which it occurred. And as long as were dealing with civil unrest and violence in the streets, that underlying issue, in my opinion, the most important issue is not going to get his attention. I want to play something to you that ferguson mayor, said. Wanted vast majority in my community. And ill put that in the 90th percentile, is absolutely supportive of what were doing, and what were going to do. Do you think that thats true in the duration of the process so far . No, i dont. I suspect that 95 perfection of the people that the mayor talked to may feel that way. I think the vast majority i would suspect that the vast majority of the people in his community don the violence, and they dont want protests in the streets, but people are not satisfied with the status quo. It does seem to be a tremendous blackwhite disconnect where the events in ferguson are concerned. Theres a new Research Pole that came out, saying that four out of five blacks think that the issue raises racial issues, and only onethird of whites do. And 80 of blacks think that it has gone too far, and only onethird of whites disagree. Africanamerican whites saw what happened in that crowd. And do you think that that issue explains part of the anger and the frustration . I think it is. And i think theres a tendency. Those of us ive spent the last 40 years in Law Enforcement. And ive seen the changes in the Police Profession and the changes in american society. And theyre profound. The reality in America Today is different than the reality of america 40 years ago. But however, there is a sense on that onehalf of the divide, though things are much better than they were 40, 50 years ago, so everything is okay. On the africanamerican side of the divide, things are better, but were a long way from Martin Luther kings dream, character. 40 years into policing, if they give you a call, what will you tell them to do . Well, first of all, i would convey many towns in this country have faced similar chams. The need for openness and transparency about the policing process, which in many ways runs counter to the culture is absolutely critical. I think inviting in key members of the community. And developing a system to make sure that information is put out in a timely and rapid fashion, because if you dont control the narrative, and if thats not jointly arrived at, there are people who are going to write that narrative for you, and its not going to be the way that you want to. A pleasure to have you with us, and a pleasure to share your thoughts. Coming up, disturbing video apparently showing the beheading of an american journalist. And rockets and missiles fly once more as peace talks between israel and it gaza fall apart. Al Jazeera America presents i want to be able to make decisions and not feel guilty. 15 stories one incredible journey edge of eighteen premiers september 7th only on al Jazeera America Stuart Stuart Stuart Stuart check it out. This my account thing. We can tweet directly toa comcast expert for help. Or we can select a time for them to call us back. The future, right . This doesnt do it for you . 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Is a retired army officer who served in iraq and led the coordination of the search. Doug, always good to have you with us, these is terrorists are buchers and they have been called monsters by other terrorists, rejected for their brutality by even al qaeda. Whats your take on the attack on and the other journalist. The families have my sympathy, but we should not be surprised. The Islamic State group is something that we have not seen before. Its like a different genre. The al qaeda and ira, these are terrorist groups, but they dont behead people and bury them alive, and run slave groups. This is a different form of brutality and inhumanity. We just saw the video where we see what we just saw. They threatened the United States, and said that they will drown us all in blood if we continue to hit Islamic State group fighters. Does this brutality, another extreme of what were used to with the horrors, does the tactic change what the u. S. Is willing to do or should do to wipe out this group . I dont think so. If anything, it raisings the stakes, and i dont think its going to cause american boots on the ground. And were not going to go in there tomorrow. But were going to see the redoubling of the United States resolve to help in the region, the islamic kurds. The iraqi army is being more aggressive, trying to take back tikrit from Islamic State group on tuesday, and so far it has failed. And is it impossible to defeat them unless we get alize among the sunnis, who at times have fought with them . We need to make alliances with the sunni, but what we saw today, the americans making advances on tikrit, they have not had much success, but when reinforced with u. S. Air power, theyre good enough to get the job done, and i suspect thats going to be our model going forward. But the u. S. Air power, as you have written s. Not enough to defeat these people. Not in itself, but u. S. Air power, in conjunction with the land forces with the iraqis and the kurds, is enough. Overnight. What about help from the others . Saudi arabia has declared irs and al qaeda the numberone enemies of islam. And if we have countries like this getting involved, is that going to help . I think were starting to realize that Islamic State group is a real threat. And we welcome help from where everyone it comes. Iranians are helping in some of the provinces, in iraq, and we never thought that we would be aligned with them. And turkey was instrumental in helping in the north. And certainly, we welcome help from any of the neighboring gulf states that want to help. This is a crosscutting and realigning issue. Whoever is willing to help us with the Islamic State group is a friend of ours, and the converse is true. Whoever is aligning with them or turning a blind eye may have their relationship with the United States reevaluated. And beyond the americans in the region, what threat do they pose to the United States, if they continue to dominate an area of syria and oil. Future . In the immediate future, theres adulate to the United States. As we have seen, the Islamic State group is now the big kid on the block, challenging al qaedas the most capable terrorist group on the planet, leading the islamic jihad. The only thing that stands between taking the title is striking the United States homeland. Al qaeda has accident and they have not, and we think theyre going to try to remedy that in the future. Thank you. Thank you so much, antonio. Turning now to a grown ceasefire between israel and hamas. Another break in the ceasefire on tuesday after rockets were fired by Palestinian Militants in latest violation of the ceasefire. Four were killed. And dozens of others injured in gaza. At least 50 rockets were fired into israel. Setting off air raid sirens. The rocket attacks prompted them to pull out of cairo, and now the palestinians say theyre leaving as well. Joining us, aljazeera correspondent, nick schifrin, and good to see you. The signs on tuesday from both sides were they didnt want to resume fighting. So what happened . Good question, antonio. Question definitely saw both sides indicating that they didnt want to return to war, but we have seen the most violent images in the last weeks, we dont know exactly what happened. But we su we saw the hamas offis before they were fired into israel, we saw them saying that if netanyahu, the Prime Minister of israel, doesnt understand, we will make sure that he understands by military means. And we have also seen israel on its side target something that hasnt been targeted before. A very Senior Member of hamas military wing were targeted tonight. And at least one of their homes were targeted. And that particular leader was not home, but his wife and son were killed, according to hamas officials and gazan mel officials as well. So we have a barrage of rockets fired from gaza, and airstrikes fired into gaza, and we have the only way of this, the delegations in cairo. The two sides, and always room in this region for violence after the fighting stops quickly it resumes quickly, but right now, neither side is willing to do that. So not only isert neither side willing to keep talking in cairo, but also some words said by the palestinians that neither side seems to have really gotten very far in those negotiations as to what theyre demanding. I think that we need to look a little bit beyond the rhetoric, and go beyond the detail. According to officials, there was progress coming into gaza, with a buffer zone created between gaza and israel. Forces moving in instead of hamas, and officials moving into that border where some of the rockets were being fired. Also n. The area now, gaza cant effectively go beyond ten nautical miles. But fundamentally, the two are as far apart as ever. Israel wants the demilitarization of gaza, and thats not going to happen. They have thousands of rockets, and ham as wants the israeli siege lifted and israel is not willing to let that happen. The two sides are very far apart. And if we can get them back to the table. If they can each go to a month and a half of fighting, but again, right now, theres no sign that that negotiation is right now. Nick schifrin from jerusalem. Thank you, and now for more stories from around the world. We begin in liberia, where the 17 missing ebola patients who escaped from a clinic over the weekend have been found and placed back in quarantine. They escaped when the clinic was looted by an armed mob and stole sheets and mattresses that could further spread the disease. The death follow has now climbed to 1,229. Next to ukraine, the government says that the president will meet with russian president , Vladimir Putin next week, along with other European Union leaders. The deputy head of poroshenkos legislation called it a roadmap to a peace process. This comes as the rebels advance deeper. Today, governor rick perry of texas was arrested on abusing his power. After the today drunk driving arrest. Perrys Political Action released a Campaign Video in his defense. I exercise this detailed funding for office whose leadership has lost the publics confidence by acting inappropriately and unethically. Who conducted themselves in an incredibly inappropriate way, stopped for a dwi with a blood alcohol almost three times the legal limit. I wholeheartedly and unequivocally stand behind. David axel, the Senior Adviser for president obama, called it pretty sketchy. In tucson, arizona, we have lost one of americas most familiar voices. Don pardo, of saturday night live. He first became famous lending his baritone voice to the price is right. And he was with snl from the very first episode, only missing one episode. Americans are taking less and less time off. Also, so you want to have kids . You wont believe how much having a child is going to cost you, even before college. And later, two highprofile nfl announcers will no longer use the term, redskins. And others say that they will. Its amazing what some of us are willing to do for a phone. The leader of the Czech Republic lost his pon, and he took extreme measures to find it, to the point where a Human Rights Group got involved. Join us in the conversation on twitter, aj consider this, and on our facebook pages. These young people deserve justice anatomy of a protest. The police look like theyre getting ready to come down the street with militarized Police Departments forces their message. Theyre actually firing canisters of gas. A fractured Community Demands answers what do we want . 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They dont want to look like theyre replaceable and losing their jobs. A leader at San Francisco state university, where he teaches organizational behavior and change. And mitchell, great to have you with us. Job security, 22 of American Workers surveyed say they are not taking vacations because they dont want someone to think theyre replaceable. Is that something that should be a concern . Well, whether it should be or shouldnter really doesnt matter. Its a concern for these people because theyre afraid. Theyre afraid about out of sight, out of mind. If im away from the workplace and the work gets done, maybe im expendable. There are surveys that show that some managers are less likely to promote employees that take all of their vacation plan. And a study said that people who dont take all of their Vacation Time earn more than those who did. There are different with different cultures, some marks say you have to take your vacation, and theres research that shows that, depending on the job. If you work in a creative kind of job, getting a break and getting away for a week or two, and returning, i do a lot of writing in my work, and i get Writers Block sometimes, and if i go to the Grocery Store or jim, all of a sudden, things pop in my mind because i psychologically take a break. So i dont want to say all organizations are pro or antivacation, but others have a macho culture. If you do need a vacation, maybe you do need one. But the reality is, there are studies that show that people who take vacations end up being more productive. Its just healthy, you get away from the routine, and Little Things that may have upset you from the work place may have floated away because you came back with a different perspective, but what i would regard, since the downsizing era, there was a day in the United States where people could feel in control of their work situation. If i work, and someone next to me works also at the same job, who didnt carry their weight and came late and was sloppy and got fired, i could rationalize that. But now i sit next to somebody who didnt downsize, but he seemed to work as hard as i do. And i cant control that. So thats whats scaring people today i think. And also, according to a survey. 40 of americans are not planning to use all of their time off this carry. Year. And two of the most common reasons for doing that, they believe that nobody in their job can do their job while theyre away, so it has a new name. Its called the work martyr complex . I would call itigo. Who can do my job as well as i can do it. Youve heard this before. And what matters is people dont look at the quantative side. But the qualitative side. They look at the pile growing up. But if they can look back at the fresh perspective, theyre going to come back to the pile. A lot of us who arent taking the shorter vacations or when we do take a vacation, those who work with email at our jobs, are using email on vacation, and the problem has grown worse. In 1970, 80 of workers take a vacation, and now the number has declined. And the only 56 of americans are planning on doing that now. And the bigger issue is the United States and its policies. Were the only industrialized nation than doesnt have mandatory vacation x. When you look at these numbers, france has 30 days. There are only 13 countries in the world that dont have mandated vacations, so why . Is this all about the American Work ethic . Not entirely. Substantially, if there was a macho culture in the United States, and i dont mean that in the sexist male and female way, i hear them say, i dont need vacation, i can get by without it. And we also have to realize that in different countries, especially in europe, there are strong Worker Councils who look out for their people, to the extent that maybe our unions dont do here. Its not just the bad americans but its institutionalized in europe. But theres this sort of macho, i can get by, i can do it. And again, this gets back to what i was talking about earlier. What really matters to people is taking control. And if i can show my boss that im taking control by not taking a vacation, it feels right in the short run, but its not healthy in the long run. Mitchell lee marks, thank you. Its time to see whats trending on the web. A lot of us are attached to our phones to varying degrees. The leader of the chechen republic may be on the extreme end of that. Hes very active on instagram and has half a million followers. Its an important part of his life. Last year, he used it in his government and he found his dog with it. He at a museum, after having announcements made over the speakers, the 57yearold took it ever further. The chechen leader had more than 1,000 guests, including children, call back to be questioned about his phone. And he said most of them werent able to go back until the morning. They have denied it. But its not clear if the social media has found his phone, but he has been posting on instagram since. Unbelievable. Thank you. Youre welcome. Coming up, davis is 13 years old and just landed on the cover of Sports Illustrated but will this Little League star bring big league change . Al Jazeera America presents borderlands dramatic conclusion no ones prepared for this journey. Our teams experience the heart breaking desperation were all following stories of people that have died in the desert. And the importance. Experiencing it, has changed me completely. Of the lives that were lost in the desert this is the most dangerous part of your trip. An emotional finale you cant miss. We got be here to tell the story. The final journey borderland continues. Only on al Jazeera America audiences are intelligent and they know that their needs are not being met by american tv news today. Entire media culture is driven by something thats very very fast. There has been a lack of fact based, in depth, serious journalism, and we fill that void. There is a huge opportunity for al Jazeera America to change the way people look at news. We just dont parachute in on a story. Quickly talk to a couple of experts and leave. One producer may spend 3 or 4 months, digging into a single story. At al jazeera, there are resources to alow us as journalists to go in depth and produce the kind of films. The people that you dont see anywhere else on television. We intend to reach out to the people who arent being heard. We wanna see the people who are actually effected by the news of the day. Its Digging Deeper its asking that second, that third question, finding that person no one spoken to yet. You cant tell the stories of the people if you dont get their voices out there, and al Jazeera America is doing just that. Tonights data dive may frighten anyone planning on becoming a parent. According to a new usda report, thats what a middle income family can expect to spend to raise a child until he or she turns 1. Another way to look at it is youll be shelling out 13,600 bucks a year on your bundle of joy. By the way, were talking in todays dollars. And all of those numbers will end up jumping up by 25 . This takes everything into consideration. Food, clothing, childcare and healthcare, and education. The biggest expenses. 30 of the total. And that extra space for the baby is getting very expensive. The cost on its face is scary ier for the well to do. Parents can expect to spend 400,000 to raise their child to the age of 18. But its the lower income families that really get slammed. Though households making 62,000 a year will spend less in total, thats thats a of lower part of their income. Thank you dont want to live in areas of the northeast. Its much moreens spenciv much e expensive there. It the cost of raising kids went up by a little less than the rate of inflation, and the more kids you have, the lower the expenses per child. Bad news, Median Household Income in the u. S. , adjusted for inflation, has fallen by 5,000 a year since the the turn of the century, when the costs have soared. So parents, when your kid turns into a rebellious teen who shows no respect, show them this. And they will know how much you love them anyway. Coming up, broadcasters will not use the hundreds of days in detention. Al jazeera rejects all the charges and demands immediate release. Thousands calling for their freedom. Its a clear violation of their human rights. We have strongly urged the government to release those journalists. Journalism is not a crime. Only on al Jazeera America start with one issue education. Gun control. The gap between rich and poor. Job creation. Climate change. Tax policy. The economy. Iran. Healthcare. Ad guests on all sides of the debate. This is a right we should all have. Its just the way it is. Theres something seriously wrong. Theres been acrimony. The conservative ideal. Its an urgent need. And a host willing to ask the tough questions how do you explain it to yourself . And youll get. The inside story ray suarez hosts inside story weekdays at 5 eastern only on al Jazeera America the controversy over the Washington Redskins name is heating back up. Tony dungy and former broadcasters say that they will no longer use the redskins names on the air. And other announcers say this they will continue to use the name and have set up different policies on what to call the team. Sports editor for the nation, author of brazils dance with the devil, the world cup, the olympics and the fight for democracy, dave, good to see you, and nbc and fox say that its okay for the broadcasters to make their own choice on what to call with the team. And some say that its a control for the nfl. Absolutely, especially since the nfl is very particular in making sure that its broadcast partners are in line in saying yes, sir and no, sir and minding the ps and qs. So the fact that you have three major broadcasters saying that they are using the right to not saying the redskins brand, thats a huge deal. All of the merchandise that is sold with the exception of the Dallas Cowboys gets pooled and divided among the teams, so if the washington brand is eroded it so dramatically, and by toney dung see making the statements, that hits the pocketbook of every owner, and creates more pressure on dan snyder to finally, at last t. To do the right thing. So he says that hes not taking sides over whether the redskins name is offensive but tony dungy said that its personal, with the networks, and espn saying that its going to continue to use the redskins name. And so other than the consequence thats you just talked about, that its going to take money out of the owners pockets, wha what are yu seeing . It keeps the story alive. Trust me, think are convinced that its one of these stories with the next shiny bobble and the next controversy, like a kitten with a laser pointer, its actually growing in power to get this washington tem to change the name. And when you have people like phil and tony making statements like this, then all of a sudden, its a news story on espn, and its something thats talked about in the mainstream sports pages, it gets people talking about it, and it flakes dan snyder more defensive, and whenever hes defensive, hes like a pr machine, like a gap monster, so any time, the movement to change his name gets that much stronger. Its a propaganda thing with native americans supporting the redskins. So now we have the skins, and tony hasnt said the name, redskins on the air in three years, and he says that he doesnt see a reason to make a big deal about it. Michael urban, a former cowboy said that he usually says washington, and do you think that the trend is going to grow . Absolutely. I think that it only will build steam. And then youll have less of a mealy mouth answer. And announcers will say if it offends people, i dont want to see it. And about the dictionary defines racial slur in the eyes of the United States of america. And its not something that i am not comfortable saying, and let them fire me on that basis. For once on the show, something thats positive. Because we have had a lot on the show tonight. Renee davis, shes the first Little Leaguer ever to make the cover of Sports Illustrated. She can throw a 70 Miles Per Hour fastball. And she pitched a shutout in the Little League world series. What kind of impact is this athlete going to have . You said it there, this is the summer that makes you want to live under your bed and never get out again. It makes you want to turn off your television and bury your phone. And renee davis is the kind of person that has the capacity to inspire. Its her attitude and her unbelievable skill. Its a reminder that theres no such thing as barriers, and theyre broken by people that have the moxie and the will to do it. Too often, that sounds like somebody like norman rockwell. But when you have mo ne davis. Do you think that theres a chance that be she could break even bigger barriers and play Major League Baseball . She has serious skills, and well see if that takes place. And if it does, its going to make stories like Jackie Robinson and michael sams like pebbles in the ocean, a woman kicking butt in Major League Baseball, and i hope that i live to see the day. Shes already an inspiration, and dave, good to see you. Thanks. Thats all for now, but the conversation continues on our website. See us on gobble plus, and twitter, aj consider this, and follow me on twitter at a mora tv. See you next time. Every saturday, al Jazeera America brings you controversial. Both parties are owned by the corporations. Entertaining its fun to play with ideas. Thought provoking get your damn education. Surprising oh, absolutely . Exclusive oneonone interviews with the most interesting people of our time. Youre listening because you want to see whats going to happen. 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