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Tony chang is following developments from my thoughts on thailands border with me and mark. Were here on the border of the sea. We would like to be inside, but that has been impossible. Over the last 12 months since the military coup her, the boarders have been very tight. Although here we have seen over the course of the last couple of weeks, tens of thousands of people flooding across from me and my trying to escape fierce fighting earth that has been taking place. Now that has come down in the last week or so or, and the ties have certainly not being keen to welcome people. Those who have come across had been urged to go back once the fighting in the immediate area has settled down. There you are a secretary of state, well continue talk. So the rush us foreign minister later about the crisis in ukraine. The Un Security Council has met and discussed the issue. Russia and the u. S. Have blamed each other for escalating tension. The u. S. Has designated cat are a major and non nato ally. It follows a meeting between President Joe Biden and catch her as a mirror shift. I mean, been handled fanny at the white house on monday. They discussed issues including iran, gas supplies, to europe, and the situation in afghanistan, the u. K. Government, as Prime Minister boars, johnson cant answer questions about the so called party game scandal, because of a police investigation. On monday, johnson was forced to apologize after an independent report found serious feelings of leadership. The french ambassador to wiley is being expelled from the country. This comes after frances foreign minister described the african countries Transitional Government is illegitimate and out of control. On monday mollys government announced the ambassador had 72 hours to leave relations between molly and france, have steadily deteriorated since are military true in 2020. Those are the latest headlines on al jazeera. More news coming up after the stream by americans are increasingly saying authoritarianism. Might not be so bad. There were several steps along the way where the chain of command its you like tried to cover what your take on why theyve gotten this the wrong. That to me is political well for the bottom line on us politics and policies and the impact on the world on al jazeera with i, as i me okay. You watching the stream on todays episode, we mark a one year of military rule in mia mall. On friday, the 1st 2021. The army ceased control, claiming that the election, one by the National League for democracy was woodlands. Ali found a journalist was a me, m r. A year ago to day the day of the crew began for me with a lot of confusion. I was mostly trying to find out what had actually happened, trying to find out who had been detained. And very early on in the day the internet and the phone signal was cut off and that confusion started to be replaced by fear of who had been detained. What was coming next . Looking back on it a year later. Its just incredibly depressing me. Emma still had a lot of issues, but so much progress disappeared in the blink of an eye. And these politicians, these activists, people that i know personally, are still in prison. Theyre still many of my friends are still in hiding at the people are still missing. We dont even know where they are and the situation is still dire. Is there a path back to democracy for me and mar joining us . We have wayne in sin and sins. Ah, surely, thank you so much for being with us today. I know you gonna help us unpack what has happened in the past year. What needs to happen in the next year . When in pleasing minor audience, who you are, welcome back to the stream. Thank you for me as my name and im the human rights like to this. Ive been working on them for many years. So last year the ticket was very depressing for us. We always appreciate your reporting fantasia. While i wouldnt hear you are welcome back to the stream. Thanks very much. Show me. My name is finn. I am a bernice journalist living in europe. I cover that, but im also the co founder of a storytelling project called the kite tales in the ma get to have you and seen me welcome back to the stream. Its really good to have you back with us. Please remind audience who you are and what you think. Hi, everyone. Good for having me here. This is this actually, im the casey coordinator, aggressive to the side correlation Hall Committee for chris. Thank you very much. All of you for being on national today. And if you are watching on youtube, you can be in a comment section. Those comments can be wrapped in todays discussion. Put them right here, and i will do my best to get them into the program. Oh my goodness, we remember those protest i was brave protest this from a year ago. How will people who are a me a mar fin, mark this one Year Anniversary . Well, you know, the protesters pro Democracy Forces have been calling for a silent strike. There has been the have been a couple of silent strikes in the past couple of months that have been very, very successful. But it remains to be see how things will play out to morrow. Because the hunter has threatened businesses and shops that planned to close at to be part of the silent strike. And they have also threatened arrests with anybody who, you know, planned to be part of it. So i think it remains to be seen whether there will be a silent strike tomorrow, but i think we can still be sure, regardless of whether theres going to be a strike. I think people are still extremely furious about the crew and they are still very, very much in favor of the pro Democracy Forces, whining. I seen notting. Surely i see nodding as well. Waning you stop fast. I. Yes, i, you know, this is a patent by the military now. I mean, since last year theyve been threatening people not to go out on the street to protest. They even told on the state media that they would shoot and kill people if they go out to protest. But, you know, our 2 things i want to say is, is been a year under the military cou, a military dictatorship. But to one is, or the military hasnt been able to consolidate power because of peoples courage and determination to get rid of this military on 2nd is yes is depressing, but also we have to acknowledge so much achievement by the people of burma. You know, in terms of international achievement, in terms of a national achievement, we have to acknowledge that. And these parents, people are still son standing up against it than these military. And i have no doubt they will find a creative way to join the silent strike tomorrow. Re shenika had yeah, when you say when you are and i who attend or at all in the military, i would say we are also marking and moravian a year of our assistant and a revolution for freedom. We are and said pharma like a new nation. So so thats, thats the, is that, or the people inside pharma that we will be celebrating our assistant, our finance. Again on to oppressions come in for him to sign and go, but we stay, we stay recess and thats how the coup land find. The hunter is not yet not 100 percent implemented yet. So thats a very so also there will be different strikes happening tomorrow. There are many on the Strike Committee general right committee for nationally peacekeeping calling for a week action. People have to be like, be aware of these like popping up in different areas and people that have to join them like naturally, and they always organize in a safe manner. So basically there will be other different color like rach, right can pe monkey or like, you know, resistance so. So i really hope to see im a different sort of people joining in different manner. Not just offline on what youre for me, if you dont mind. Now to say jumping in that briefly just i say that, you know, the silence strike is just one form. There are so many others. And i also want to just reiterate what that is. I just said that the crew is not yet complete. For all the weapons and the power that the hunter has is still has not been able to control the country. Like women said they had not been able to control consolidate their power. A report that just came out maybe a week ago, a briefing paper on the Resistance Forces in myanmar found that 200 townships out of 330 are now under some control off local administration that is aligned with the National Unity government. So, you know, that shows that even if were not seeing big mass protests that we used to see, resistance is still happening in so many forms. And its really important to add, i, i know, you know, this thing and, and, and all of our, a gas noticed that if you protest a few more the anniversary, a mia mall, the hunter will punish it. You will be seen as somebody whos being treasonous and they will be repercussions. So even though there is that threat, people still intend to protest a waning i want to show this to our audience and im interested in your take here. This is film the Assistance Association for political prisoners, ham, f parentheses, bama, also known as mia mall. So this is in the past year, 8835 people arrest they charged all sentence that we know of. A 1967 have evaded arrests, so on the run in hiding killed that we know of 1503 sentence 661. What do these statistics tell us about the past year when in i think you said it when you repeat it that we know, i think thats a very important phrase because we dont know how many people have being forcefully disappeared in remote areas or an ethnic area and we dont know how many people have been killed in ethnic area. So of course, these are the figures that we know and they are in prison. But there are so many other people that we, we are not aware of. And even this more than a 1800 people, many of them we dont know where theyre being kept or how their condition is. And most of them have been horrifically torture. And if you are a female political prison as you go through Sexual Harassment rate and other sort of harassment just because of your agenda. So there are so many humor, right. Wow. Ations happening in detention centers, depending on your agenda. If you are l g b, you can come from l g, b to q community you phase out the form of horrific harassment as well as its very devastating. And you know, most of these political business or young people, their students, they should have been in school. They should have been pursuing their dreams to become doctors and teachers, nurses, future leaders. But now theyve been thrown into prison for standing up against the hunter. And its really depressing. So yeah, in that point i just want to add like a dis number 8000. Its not, its not yet an updated one is more than 10000. 00 now within a year and it does do take note of it. We already have around us my hand went our political prisoner before the 2. And now we has more, more and more light. We could see the increased number of political chris. And i said that last whole year, even before an acute, as of as like as for you increase pressure and weeping or kind of remind me or the politicians and different mission of Community Center arrest. The thing is coming because and doing a panoramic in 2020 the act of his being saving to friends, up in prison ends like 7 years in prison within a week without a stay, a trial. And so, and thats with all the election use. You know, im doing the time, we always mickland and now we are seeing that increased number of political chris and obviously now is theres no, you tangible asked let me bring an extra voice into this conversation. Im going to play this, this new voice to you thin. He is a came, hes an independent research and analysis analyst, and this is what he told us a few hours ago. Have a listen and then respond directly off the back of came thoughts. The john say is facing a national lab rising, there is more united and stronger than anything. It is facing the military 1st power 962. 00. Theres federal Democracy Movement includes the loyalist pro democracy supporters of ang, santucci, the ethnic federalist movements that whose people have been the target of decades of Ethnic Violence and who have been resisting, centralized, a control over 400000 striking Civil Servants and extremely impressive jens, the youth groups, womens groups, and other Civil Society organizations. So the report, the briefing paper that i quoted just now that said, you know, 200 townships out of 330 and under some resistant forces actually is co written by kim. So he knows what hes talking about, and i totally agree with him. You know, despite all the devastation and the trauma that i think collective trauma that weve seen in myanmar, theres also been a massive transformation in the society. The country is more inclusive and united than it has ever been. And we, you know, the National Unity government. I would say its not perfect, but its the most progressive that we have seen. And there is an understanding. And i hope that if only we are giving a chance, i think we could have a really bright future. We just need to be given that chance for let me just open up some of the criticism. Some of the pushback that has been made from a protest, and im going to put this to usually that started off as non violence deliberately. So that is now turned into in some parts of me and me all a violent resistance to talks about that. And whats, what the protest is, what the resistance movement, if thinking when they are having to take up arms, do they have to take up arms. So the resist then the fast revolution when we launched the revolution, this is the, has been all these now. And still is because their own only different strides and protests happening across the whole kind of been not skipping a day. And later on they turn into mainly because the honda being questions are using differently the forces you know and how to crash us down. And then they, the resistance, the strike comedy, the have to defend them. So everything the, have the b 5 to stand with, you know, the tie or the bag and everything they have in the own community. And then later on, these people have to join in the already existing different ethnic and revolutionary foods. These revolutionary workers being resisting thing is the, to check on a pat 7, for example, 35 january just yesterday, martine, 73rd, and a lot of the koran revolution date. So you can see how this from the system. So these protests and they almost every day and so they are striking. They have to create wheels striking for example, and peters in some way for like 15 minutes and then they just disappear like a flash drive kind of thing. So these kind of protests already happened you way military is not in place. The organized around 300 people in the, in east religious. And they all be kind of gave a laura when a reason to really just our phone thing. So theyre not even skipping that they to protest, not only some salt from them you chief wayne and im going to show them if he, if, if i may, how soon, what are your perspective on the scope of this Spring Revolution waiting i think, and its been a year and our determination to approve this military is stronger than ever. Like i said, and also my thing said is that and no one has stopped from a resisting we are doing in every way possible across the country that you can see people are coming out to protest in different way people are resisting in many ways possible. And, you know, people, its been a year people joined Civil Disobedience Movement and they havent been paid at all. And they, they are determined to continue that. And they are not paying less 50 bill because the money will go to the military. So theyre doing all sort of creative way to resist that military. So thats why its been a year. It doesnt matter how many people they threatened to kill, or how many people they thrown into prison, the military con, confirm, holiday holler. You know, the only way they have weapons and the only technically they have is violence. And thats the only thing they know how to use it against people. Whereas all people have intelligence, creativity, courage and resilience, that the military lack of that. The courage thing for us to take note of theres a, i think also just very briefly, you know, theres a lot of talk about violence and i guess, personally, i would rather that we also win this in a non violent way. But, you know, this is a military that shoot and protest us in the head. This is a military that use a car to plow into and protested, we are sitting somewhere safe. And were discussing this, you know, without having to worry about how we sleep at night. My friends, my family, my former colleagues, this is their life day to day in the and my dont think, you know, its very difficult to sit somewhere safe and then judge the decisions that they had to make in order to actually survive. Can you talk to me talk to them about you make a good point about what people are having to take on and and how they are living. Weve done stream episodes about cov it, emma and the economy. Even though me, mom is still able to operate with international allies. The economy is degrading. What is it like for the people that you know who are existing a may and me all right, now, what is that situation . I mean the economy is in tatters. You know, people are having to lift through runaway inflation, storing prices. The u. N. D p has said that probably, you know, half of people in mia, mom will probably be living in poverty this year. The u. N. An released a statement, a document in december, say that 14400000 people that more than one out of 4 people need humanitarian assistance. I mean, thats how, but were talking about what ive been talking to, you know, farmers and people in Agriculture Sector as well. And, you know, again, we focus a lot on conflict and politics and violence, but people who are not even displaced. People who are not even in conflict though they are having such hardship. Just, you know, living just trying to survive. And there up people that ive been speaking to in the agricultural heartlands, the places where some of the major cropping areas in the and more theyre struggling. Farming households are having to sell long term assets, you know, life dock, their food storage in order to survive in order to just be able to eat. You know, that has furious long term consequences for the whole country in terms of humanitarian needs and the International Community. Really, we need to see this from the perspective of humanitarian and not just politics. I promised that our International Community online that they could be part of this program as well. This is what mark brown says on youtube. I lived in me him off for 8 years until last april, because of the qu, the lack of support from the rest of the world, especially the un, and of course, at the, and has been appalling. That is, marks take, but i also want to bring into our conversation. We talk about me, emma, without talking about him and also asking in special community, what are you doing . This is what we heard earlier from our border community. We really want our wiring that my military was escalade violence against the ruling and we are wearing terrible situation can happen to the dcf 2020 to an International Community is not due either. Nothing dimension of community should do more support. Justice and accountability met at some point in icy case and more universal during dixon case. Taking action against military is really important. Yet the world has not really acted as in the way that it needs to. There needs to be more political pressure on the me, m a content including coordinate economic sanctions and recognition of their past crimes of what they did to the world india as genocide, the us needs to take that official step. There has been some response from the internet community. I big corporations coming out of me and mom should really tell us about that. Is it enough . Is it the start of something more . So when we talk about what we can do to help me am i to be assaulted over the country, we only say they are 2 things you can do. But as the lease means, the fuss is the target of censure. And the 2nd is to stop the end slows to name our haunted act at the ends like imposed ends and the go and also talk in a center on the military and miller to businesses. So these are the 2 leasing the International Community can do to help we emma and to snow down the military balances happening every day. That this is not yet happening as much as should be. So today there are some countries by u. S. U k. Any to nader, imposing on different individuals. We welcome. Why only these country all the time. What about our neighbors . Like india, korea, japan, singapore asked me, where are they doing . So obviously is, is the worship at to get in a collaborated man is not just a matter of only a hugh country. Were all ready doing already. What theyre supposed to do. We need more people joining in defense, collaborating, action, austin, for the i school to haste. Now we dont see more country adjoining nicety case on the Un Security Council passing resolution b. I have never done, never pass a resolution sent a qu, so obviously never to not want the people i so oil companies, when i was being very specific as i, im, im going to just bring them up so that we can to see whats happening. Oh, companies are leaving me a mall. Abraham on youtube says, the only way to save the people of mammal is to increase the economic pressure of mima and thus increase the, the, the, the need to actually have the, the im, im just out summarizing now to, to have the International Community. Seeing that they can control what the hunter is doing. One more thought, and then im going to come to you waiting in. And this thought comes from me. Me cant. Who told us this area . The terror and you told you of the military increase every single day. And despite that fact, the International Government a stay slow and very slow in responding. Only issue in statement and now is the time to step up. Now is the time to start, the revenue flows and flows to the minimum of the tree, especially governments like alice, really a sub korea that has not done anything to take this military accountable. Now is the time, what thought would you like to leave us with wayne in on the anniversary of the qu a me, emma . What do you want us to be . Well to festival International Community should be standing with people. And 2nd is touching on the point about accountability. There bernice militarys been committing these atrocities against ethnic nationalities in my country for many, many decades. There is no accountability, there is no justice. So that created a sense of impunity for the military and genocide of their hinge happen, no accountability whatsoever. So now this is the time for the International Community to step up and hold the military accountable for all the atrocities committed. Otherwise, this cycle of impunity will continue, and bernice people will continue to suffer. Thats what i want to mention. Yes, in the my i want to jenny, no, to me now. Im into best light. At the same time, we really need to change the narrative. As will military as one of the bonding take on the a knob already estate. Were at the, ill criminal the up a tree. We need to hold them accountable. So we need to treat them as such as the arts. So this is another message for me to me. Thank you so much. Let me just show you what all of our guests can be found on twit is a you can be following whats happening and be a mile via their work. This is wayne in and sin and chimney. Thank you very much for your thoughts and your comments on the chief, i will see you next time. Take everybody. Sediment and development have altered the course of the revenge. It no longer flows to the sea, and around 10 years ago it became more susceptible to red tides. The boom of al k calls as discoloration in the water. Im going to scoop some of his water out. 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