Chair fewer good morning, everyone. The meeting will and to order. This is the october 28, 2020, regular budget and finance Committee Meeting. Im sandra lee few are, the chair of the committee, and im joined by the members, supervisor walton and mandelman. Our clerk is miss linda wong. I thank sfgovtv for broadcasting this meeting. Madam clerk, do we have any announcements . Clerk yes, due to the covid19 Health Emergency, the City Employees and the public and the board of supervisors and the legislativ legistate meetins closed. And precaution is taken to the local, state and federal orders, and declarations and directives. The Committee Members will attend through Video Conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if physically present. Public comments are available on each item on channel 26 and sfgovtv. Org or streaming the number across the screen. Each speaker will be allowed two minutes to speak. 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Clerk ordinance amondaying the administrative code to require employers of employees covered by the Quality Standards Program at the San Francisco International Airport to provide Family Health insurance to such employees, or to make contributions in the employees behalf to an account established under section 14. 2 of the administrative code. To give Public Comment call 1 415 6550001 and then press pound twice. And press star 3 to line up to speak. A system will indicate that you have raised your hand. Wait until youre unmuted and you may begin your comment. Chair fewer thank you very much. Colleagues, you may remember that this was continued from last week and we had a substantive amendment and so we have heard the daily report and we have had a conversation about this and discussion about this item. Supervisor mandelman is the only speaker on the queue today but we have people from the airport and the usww, and united here local 2, to answer any questions that you may have. So supervisor mandelman . Supervisor mandelman thank you, chair fewer. We spoke quite a bit about this last week and we heard i think very compelling personal histories and accounts of the experience from workers at the airport. I think that this that the current pandemic has made more real and immediate and necessary the reality of dealing of Getting Health Care to workers that are at our airport and their families. So i think that this is important legislation. I thank the committee for accepting the amendments last week. I want to thank my cosponsor who has been there working with me on this from the beginning, supervisor walton. And i want to thank you, chair fewer, for your cosponsorship as well. And as you said we have Kathy Widener and s. F. O. If theres questions for s. F. O. We work very closely with the unions who represent the workers at the airport, and so if it is useful jay martin and lauer an powell from local 2 are also here to address any questions about aspects of the ordinance. So i hope that we can forward this to the full board with positive recommendation today. Thank you. Chair fewer thank you very much, supervisor. Supervisor walton. Supervisor walton thank you, chair fewer and i want to just again say that this legislation is very important for equity and to make sure that all of our folks who work at the airport are able to cover themselves and their families. They are essential workers going into work every day. And they do not have the luxury as some of us to work from home or work remotely. And it is very important that they are also protected. And so i am excited to work on this with supervisor mandelman as well as labor and all of the workers at the airport and i do appreciate you as well, chair fewer, for your cosponsorship and im looking forward to moving this forward. Chair fewer thank you very much. We have heard the daily report last week and i just wanted to say that after hearing a lot of testimony last week, but also speaking to my staff and also speaking to workers, yes, i am happy to im honored to sign on as cosponsor to this legislation. I understand that this is a big list for the airlines but, quite frankly, the last 10 years have been very profitable for the airlines. You know, when theres an industry that makes over 50 billion, i actually think that this is the time to till lie stipip. And so because the emergency calls for it and its about our own moral compass. So having said that, i see no one else in the queue and lets own it up for Public Comment. Clerk let us know if theres callers that are ready. For those on hold wait until the system indicates that you are unmuted. Let us know if theres callers to comment on item number 1 . I will queue the first caller. Caller thank you. Can you hear me okay . Chair fewer we can. Caller okay, thank you. Good morning, chair fewer and Committee Members. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today. My name is Paul Francois and im with the San Francisco travel association. We are a Nonprofit Organization that markets San Francisco as a Global Destination and we saw indiscernible at the musconi senator. Were working to restore San Franciscos number one economy tourism. The timing of this measure is very problem a problematic as tm industry is decimated by the covid19 pandemic. And tourism was hit first and will take the longest to recover. This ordinance targets the travel industry significantly and increases the costs which will result in the additional job cuts, decrease services and increase the costs to businesses. Its hit s. F. O. Particularly hard 59 today to compare to 49 nationwide. This is in an industry working to bring visitors back and to stimulate the San Francisco economy. The Economic Impact will be felt throughout San Francisco, the majority of businesses that benefit from tourism are Small Businesses, and many of which remain shuttered due to the lack of visitors in our city. The recovery from covid19 pandemic will take years, the travel industry is not expected to recover until 2025 at the earliest. And please work with us to help to recover as a city and to safely bring back jobs and our visitors and to bring our most important industry back online. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller good morning, i am josh dover, with Government Affairs. I wanted to reiterate the Important Role that small carriers at s. F. L. Play in providing muchneeded competition and choice for travelers in the bay area. One of the top factors that are our network team and other new carriers that look at when planning where to position our easily movable and finite resource that is our aircraft at the cost of doing business at an airport. As s. F. O. Airport director, theres a letter to the board with the cost of doing business at s. F. O. Will be greatly impacted by the proposed healthy workers ordinance, with estimates that the Health Care Costs could double. The importance of keeping operational costs under control has increased during the current covid crisis. We want to see s. F. O. Rebound to prepandemic flight numberings as soon as possible. Yet proposals that drastically increase the costs is a major disincentive for new entrants and smaller carriers and ultimately will lead to less competition and less choice for the bay area consumers. Again, i appreciate you taking the time to listen to our concerns. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller hello, supervisors. My name is kelly powers and im the director of the Hotel Council of San Francisco. And the u. S. Airline industry is in the most fragile and vulnerable position in the history of aviation, and with s. F. O. Losing more flights than most other airports since the pandemic began, the healthy workers ordinance will add unsustainable Cost Increases on the Airline Businesses serving our airports. The ordinance will have dire consequences, which will very likely include large job losses and an impact on the hotel and the tourism industry. Our hotels depend heavily on the business and the Leisure Travel driven by our airline and airport partners. Policies which further harm our already financially devastated airline will have a negative Ripple Effect they dont just hurt airport jobs but they have a negative ripple impact throughout our local economy. Less airport related jobs can mean fewer hotel jobs and restaurant jobs at a time when our economy can least afford to lose more jobs. If the healthy worker ordinance passes it will also amend the citys existing Health Insurance coverage mandate by eliminating an existing 20hour minimum bar that is applicable. So that anyone who works any number of hours at s. F. O. Is subject to the benefits of the mandate. Again, we urge you not to approve the ordinance before you today. Thank you for your time, supervisors. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller good afternoon, i am Melanie Frank lynn, a managing director at United Airlines. Im here to speak in strong opposition to the healthy workers ordinance. S. F. O. Is now estimated that the a. W. O. Becomes the law the potential costs to airlines and other businesses at s. F. O. Could go as high as 163 million per year. This figure is five times higher than what the b. L. A. Submitted to you last week. This is a huge discrepancy and i strongly urge that the chief economist revisits this issue and assesses the economic damage to the city before this legislation is advanced. U. S. Airlines are projected to lose a staggering 44 billion in 2020 alone. As i said last week, United Airlines has already furloughed approximately 3,000 employees at s. F. , and 30,000 nationwide. Experts predict that it will take years to recover and even more time to pay off all of the debt that we have occurred. If this is happening, it will lead to efficient job loss and make s. F. O. Uncompetitive. Our highly unionized workforce cannot take another significant hit during these uncertain times. As you navigate through this crisis, we continue to care about our workers greatly and compensate them with generous benefit packages. We must continue to safely encourage more travelers and tourists to the bay area. The local economy is already in a deep hole and less travelers to s. F. O. Means less revenue into the general fund of San Francisco. United is extremely proud of our s. F. O. Hub and we want to continue to see it grow and flourish. This legislation will undoubtedly set back our plans for future growth at s. F. O. And the spirit of cooperation with the city, i with my colleagues, want you to consider this. We hope to have a constructive dig log with the committee moving forward in the days ahead. Thank you for your attention. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller good morning. My name is jack mccain and im the director of Government Affairs at United Airlines in the western United States. Im speaking about the potential impact of this proposal. Last week this committee was presented with a report that estimated the cost impact of this proposal is around 33 million annually. An already staggering cost. However, San Francisco has the costs exceeding 163 million annually. And San Francisco airport has a much clearer perception into the holistic financial impact, more so than any other organization. The incredible difference between these two analyses requires that we take time and carefully consider the widereaching impacts of this ordinance as opposed to taking a ready, fire, aim approach. Rushing the process that has the potential impact of not just my own airline but the industry and the airport and the city, is not a recipe to get it right. The Airline Industry cannot sustain such a large cost impact without there be extraordinary consequences to employment and Overall Economic activity in the region. Already capacity is down nearly 60 and we continue to evaluate the future as we plan to go to 50 of our airline, with long haul reduced. And worst of all our team have 30,000 fewer people than when we entered this pandemic. The airport is an economic engine for San Francisco and it is not immune from the impacts of vastly increased costs, coupled with the demand. And we are proud to serve s. F. O. And we work to find solutions, however, this ordinance will hinder the industry and the city recovery. We ask you to reject it. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller hi, good morning. I am dayna debell for delta airlines. Im speaking to oppose this proposed ordinance. As i stated in my prior comments last week, Airlines Continue to lose money due to the coronavirus outbreak and were far from out of the woods. Delta is losing 18 million per day at the end of q3. The proposed changes in this ordinance would increase the cost of operating at the San Francisco airport significantly. The b. L. A. Report significantly underestimated the costs for this proposal and have it at 33 million and its lower than up to the 163 million annually that the s. F. O. Airport estimates for the proposal. At a minimum, the city should not move forward with this proposal until the b. L. A. Report is revisited and the numbers refectified. And its impacted by the Economic Impact analysis should be completed before moving forward. As we continue to try as airlines and to bring the service back to the flying public, we are all operating with aircrafts that are smaller and the profits that are difficult to come by, if at all. Service for all airlines at s. F. O. Is 53 of what it was just a year ago. When the Airlines Make decisions where to put new flights into the decision its based on the cost of operating that flight against the projected revenue. We will always look to deploy the airplane at the location where we can generate the most profit or the greatest difference between cost and revenue. And dramatic increases in operating costs such as those represented here in this proposal, hinder the return of flights to s. F. O. And by extension the return of more jobs to the airport. In fact, this proposal as others have stated could result in a loss of additional jobs in the market as the future growth goes to other airports and the aircraft are pulled from s. F. O. We request that you adopt the amendment proposed by and communicated to you earlier by United Airlines and hold off on any further action in the proposed ordinance until the Economic Impact is fully understood. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller good morning. My name is indiscernible and over 83 of Southwest Airlines workforce is unionizeized and covered by collective bargaining agreements that apply across the country. Rather than having different agreements for each location like most employers. And it offers extremely Health Care Coverage provisions that already extend to the family members. Southwest plays host to half a billion dollars in raises and benefits in the bay area alone, and is workin one of the most recognized companies in the world and one of the best places to work as said by forbes magazine. I want the supervisors to understand the unintended consequences of passing this proposal. Recently the airport sent communication to the board clarifying the financial impacts of this ordinance. Based on the assessment, the proposal would cost employers at the airport 163 million. A number much higher than previously recorded by this board and projected by the airline. Given the discrepancy in numbers we respectfully ask the committee to delay the proposal until a thorough Economic Impact analysis is completed. Otherwise, the net Economic Impact in San Francisco could very well be negative, and reducing the staff, causing thousands of people to lose their jobs and not have any Health Coverage at all. Thank you for your consideration. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller hello, supervisors. Chair fewer, and vice chair walton and supervisor mandelman. This is Sharkey Laguna and most of you know me as the president of the Small Business commission but im also the president of the American Rental Association which represents 98 of all rental cars in america. Many of our members are concerned about this legislation. We all share your concern for the workers and i want to commend you on trying to move forward with legislation that you perceive that will be helpful to them. I want to urge you to be cautious about moving forward. My concern is simply that this may not wind up helping workers in the long run, especially if they move flights to other nearby cities and could hurt the workers in San Francisco overall that are so dependent on the money and the visitors from tourism and so i have a lot of concerns about moving forward with this legislation at this time. There may be a time for the committee and the board to consider an ordinance such as this in the future, but i would urge you to move cautiously at the moment with so much at stake and so many businesses hurting. United airlines has put forth an amendment suggestion, i would encourage you to take a close look at that and to consider adopting that amendment, and i would also encourage a deeper look into the financial and Economic Impacts as others that have called in have recommended. Thank you so much for all of your work and i hope that you will give my comments consideration. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. There are currently eight callers in the queue and 17 listening. Next speaker, please. Caller good morning, im scott kennedy, with alaska airlines. Im here today alongside others in our city to voice strong opposition to the San Francisco healthy workers ordinance. I shared last week that we take the health of our employees very seriously and we provide excellent Health Coverage to our employees and their families at an affordable cost with the agreements in place with their labor partnerships. Our company has been reducing jobs as a result of the current downturn in the Airline Travel from the covid19 pandemic. Last week the economists at our trade association, airlines for america, provided you with an extremely conservative estimate of the costs of implementing this ordinance. That estimate was based on the survey of only four airlines operating at s. F. O. , proposing that it will cost approximately 83 million. This was based on survey results from only four Airlines Serving s. F. O. So you could expect the total impact to be higher than that estimate. The citys b. L. A. Estimate is a mere 33 million annually and everyone that reviewed this proposal realized that this estimate is woefully understating the impact. S. F. O. s estimate that the total impact could be as high as 163 million annually is much more accurate and is clearer data than what b. L. A. Used. And one more point to address, sometimes weather or other events cause the airlines to send their employees from oakland or other bay area airports for a such period of time. Proposal, however, would cover every hour of an employees work, no matter how short that time is. Its unreasonable to expect that nons. F. O. Employees can simply move in and out of the Health Care Plans on an hour, daily, weekly or even monthly basis. Alaska airlines has deep concerns about this ordinance and what it means for our recovery at s. F. O. And the bay area and we respectfully urge this committee to oppose proposal. Thank you very much. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller hello, supervisors. My name is blaine ossko, with the state and Government Affairs based in the state of hawaii. Thank you for the opportunity to highlight the unintended consequences contemplated in the proposal set forth by the healthy workers ordinance. As a followup from last week we have confirmed that the b. L. A. Cost Impact Report was woefully under in its cost estimates and it inaccurately paints the impact. And the math really matters here. S. F. O. Is among the most expensive in the country for airlines and passengers. Significantly it increases the cost of doing business at s. F. O. And it will have a negative impact on the supply and demand for air service and it will result in additional job losses. This kind of legislation limits the competition and restricts the growth, especially for smallerriers Like Hawaiian Airlines at s. F. O. And has unsustainable increases for our carrier. In addition to that i want to point out some specific burdens that exist with respect to the h. W. O. Very rarely in any job marketplace can you find plans that are available to employees at no cost, let alone to entire families at no cost. The h. W. O. Mandate coverage is so far beyond what even the most generous employers offer their employees, including the city of San Francisco, with their own employees. Specifically Hawaiian Airlines and our workforce is highly unionized and we negotiate collective bargaining agreements which are voted upon and approved by employees that include generous wage and benefit packages. We do not believe that this legislation should supersede our collective bargaining agreements or interfere with our relationships with our labor partners. Thank you again for another opportunity to weigh in on such a monumental decision. I strongly urge you to oppose the ordinance. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller go ahead. Go ahead and speak lisa. Go ahead, just speak. Caller hi, good morning. Im indiscernible my husband is sick and we tried to find out indiscernible he had surgery indiscernible . To go back to work. indiscernible he cannot go to the workplace without pain. The doctor says that he cannot go back to work unless his benefits indiscernible . Cannot afford the medical bills. Its affecting the whole family and myself. I do not know where i will get the money to pay the medical bills. indiscernible money from work is not enough to pay for my bills. indiscernible it is not enough to support the family. indiscernible im still struggling to pay medical bills. Especially now that there is covid19 and our hours are cut. Now there is covid19 outbreak indiscernible . Speakers time has elapsed. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller hi, good morning, supervisors. My name is Laurie Thomas and im the executive director of the golden gate restaurant association, we represent restaurants and cafes in San Francisco and the surrounding bay area. Thank you for hearing this item today and for listening to all of our comments. Im calling in on behalf of our local restaurant and hospitality industry, that were very concerned that well be impacted by this legislation. And while we share the concerns regarding workers and health care, particularly during this pandemic year, i have very strong concerns that there will be unintended consequences that will affect our struggling restaurant and hospitality industry. We all know that due to covid19 that the airlines have already had to drastically reduce their Service Levels with the lack of both business and lose Leisure Travel being cut back. And we know that s. F. O. Is still only barely back to about i believe 20 of the prepandemic traffic through the t. H. S. Checkpoints. Less traffic is a direct correlation to less business for many of our shuttered airport restaurants and businesses, as well as our concern that this will affect the restaurants and businesses in San Francisco itself. We are very concerned that we need the airlines and the industry to be able to return to prepandemic Service Levels. And we feel that this legislation, while again well intended, will significantly impact their ability to do so. So the cost of this legislation im afraid goes much further than just to those employers directly impacted at s. F. O. You could argue whether or not they can afford that, but the concerns are is what this will do for greater community. So were very concerned that this legislation would have unintended consequences of causing continued reduced traffic both in the terminal of s. F. O. And also to our city of s. F. O. That contributes, unintentionally im sure to more lost businesses speakers time is elapsed. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller hi, i am emily abraham. And the health of businesses and its employees and also believes that this ordinance will have a much larger impact on the wellbeing of our city than expected. S. F. O. Has come out as the previous speakers have mentioned with an updated estimate with the financial impacts. Based on the Impact Report, airline, operators and Service Providers employed 20,634 workers. And the cost of offering qualifying families the proposed legislation would result in an estimated additional annual cost as high as 163 million, depending on the health plan. The industries in s. F. O. Are essential to providing San Francisco with its tourism base which generates 819 million in taxes and fees in the city in 2019. The high added cost would lead to reductions, and the ability to bring in tourists. S. F. O. Provide tourists that go into the city and then will spend 26. 4 million each day for our local businesses. Beyond this concern of the impact on tourism, we urge you to give clarity around the definition section of this ordinance. The intent of this legislation is to for only the employees, and it seems to apply to any subtenant and contractor, etc. If this applies to restaurants, it would be devastating. We encourage you to look at the impacts outlined by the previous speakers. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller good morning, supervisors. My name is Steven Cornell and i own a store in San Francisco for 39 years. Im also the legislative representative with Council District working. Tourism is as we heard, is the number one business in San Francisco. We have all of our neighborhood employees, and our customers, and i know this because i have been directly affected. All of our businesses are really hurting, especially those directly looking for visitors. This is not a time to add a financial burden. Our local businesses are affected. People come into my store are Airline Workers and hotel workers, bus drivers and convention workers, restaurant workers, they all directly are affected by tourism. They all live in our neighborhoods and they are our neighbors. We need a strong visitor strong visitor business to keep our neighborhood businesses going. Please, i really encourage you to have a full economic report that includes the whole citys economic base. Thank you very much for considering it. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller good morning, my name is reesea parker and im the Vice President of labor and employment and litigation at the airlines for america. I appreciate the opportunity to speak to our concerns that this proposal is preempted by federal law. When they regulated the airlines, the Airline Deregulation act, the a. D. A. , it prohibited states by regulating them with any state law for crisis services. The Supreme Court held that the a. B. A. Not only targets airlines but even those who are direct or indirect. This ordinance affects the prices and the services. And the ordinance will increase the costs to passengers by 1. 83 per ticket. Thats an effect on the prices. And based this, we know that the b. L. A. Estimate is understated and the actual impact is much higher, as much as five times higher. Moreover, s. F. O. Is already an expensive airport in which to do business and this will reduce flights into s. F. O. Which has an impact on routes. And it will reduce the number of employees needed which impacts the services to passengers. And we are concerned that the operations will appear to be the deliberate intent of this proposal. Although this is a city ordinance, not every employer at the airport our understanding is that retail food and beverage, car rental employees are not subject to the requirements. Only carriers, flights support and aviation contractors and Service Providers. In other words, only those costs who hit the airlines bottom line. And we caution the board that the t proposals will have impac. We want you to evaluate from a litigation perspective. Thank you for taking the time to look at our concerns. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Caller good morning, supervisors. My name is david lee and im an economist with airlines for america. Like others i read the october 23rd letter to the board with great interest and it validated our concerns that the b. L. A. s cost analysis was light. S. F. O. Now estimates that the 9. 50 fee will result in an additional annual cost of 163 million, and nearly a five fold increase from the original 43 million estimate. I have more information for the committee to consider. A few of the members reported that the financials for the September Quarter and as you know that our situation remains dire. The past quarter, the Passenger Carriers collectively lost 127 million every day for a total of 11. 7 billion. If you break this down in total, we lost an average of 182 per passenger. We are nowhere close to covering our costs and those who think that we can simply pass on the higher costs to our customers at this time. This proposal does not help with the recovery and the ongoing efforts to serve the community. Given our concerns i kindly ask that you do a more thorough economic benefit cost analysis of this proposal. The b. L. A. Analysis failed to account for benefits delivered by the proposal and failed to account for the unintended risks and burdens that will not only hurt the air service and the jobs, but hurt the bayareas hospitality sector, a crucial part of San Franciscos economy. Thank you for your time and consideration. Clerk thank you for your communities. Currently there is one caller in the queue and 15 listening. If you have not already done so, please press star, 3, to be added to the queue. Next caller, please. Caller hi, supervisors, good afternoon. I am shawn williams. I too am with airlines for america. We are the trade association of the major passenger and Cargo Airlines here in the United States. A few points that i wanted to make that have not yet been covered. One is i know that theres been some discussion about the cares act during this whole debate in the last few weeks and the Payroll Support Program that has benefited airline employees and Airline Workers throughout the country. There is a myth that has been perpetuated that this is some sort of a bailout for the airlines and, in fact, it is nothing of the sort. The Payroll Support Program and the cares act is a passthrough directly to employees so that the employees at airlines can stay on the payroll, maintain their Health Benefits, and continue to get paychecks and continue to be employed so when theres a return to service and a return to demand for airline service, that those employees are there and ready to go. Number two, i wanted to point out that, you know, it was stated earlier in this meeting that the healthy workers ordinance, you know, is being implemented or considered so that all of the workers at the airport have the benefits that are contemplated in it. I would point out that that goal may be what the goal is, but that it is not what the ordinance says or does. In fact, the healthy workers ordinance applies to airlines and Service Providers and the like, but not to restaurants and rental Car Companies and others. Its just targeted at one industry the Airline Industry. That undermines any argument that this is for Public Health purposes. You know, other employees and passengers have contact at restaurants and retailers, etc. , are excluded from the ordinance. It also makes it very clear that this ordinance is aimed squarely at the Airline Industry and not connected to a broader goal of ensuring healthy terminals or Public Health. Lastly, the ordinance does not contemplate other essential workers who work through the city, either at Grocery Stores or other places of employment that may have been deemed essential. Your time is elapsed. Clerk thank you for your comments, next speaker, please. Madam chair, that completes the queue. Chair fewer thank you very much, Public Comment is closed on item number 1. Supervisor walton or mandelman, do you have any comments with the Public Comment that we have heard . We do like to add anything to the conversation. Yes. I will try to be brief. But, you know, i want to thank certainly the workers who called in and i want to thank the representatives of the Airline Industry and the representatives of our local restaurant industry, chamber of commerce. We heard a lot about the dire state of the Airline Industry National Three and here in San Francisco and i think that theres no one on this board who is not sympathetic to the economic devastation that is being wrought across this country in every single in almost every single area. But i i do think that the next step that some of those folks took is not the right one. Which is that getting their operational costs under control requires continuing a state in which workers cannot Access Health care, are afraid that if they get sick they wont be able to see a doctor, are afraid if they take covid home to their families that their families will not have health care. Are afraid that if theyre hospitalized they will be carrying thousands, in some cases tens of thousands of dollars of debt forward with them. I dont think that it can be the case that the right answer to the woes, the National Woes of our Airline Industry, which really do require federal intervention to solve, should be that San Franciscos own airport needs to perpetuate a situation in which some of our lowestwaged workers, immigrants, people of color, do not have access or at least real access to affordable highquality health care. That would be wrong at any time and its particularly wrong now in the midst of a pandemic. I heard the comments about this is not the right time. This is actually the necessary time because these folks are as we all are are in fear for their health as never before. So thats, you know, i think that it is wrong thinking. It is also bad for San Francisco. We want our airport to be a safe place for the people who fly through s. F. O. , for the people coming home, for the tourists when they come back. We want them to be confident that the people who work at the airport are able to see doctors and to get checked out when they have a tickle in their throat or when they have a gnawing pain in their stomach or some other part of their body. That is necessary for us for the good operation of our airport as well as for being, you know, the city that we want to be. I do want to thank United Airlines for putting forward their amendment, their proposed amendment. Were looking at it, but on first pass it seems like that particular amendment would basically strip out most of the employee groups who we are hoping to cover through this legislation. You know, we heard various things about restaurants, whether the restaurants and retail concessions in the terminals are covered. I recognize that the gdra has concerned thaconcerns that they. And they are not covered by this legislation but they are already required to provide highquality health care to their employees. So, you know, i think to the notion that this is somehow targeting the Airline Industry this is not targeting the industry. It is not setting prices. It is simply saying that in our airports that there needs to be a base standard for access to health care for the that applies to all of the folks that are involved in servicing our own airport. So with that i hope that we can forward this to a full board with a positive recommendation. Thank you, colleagues, for your support. Chair fewer thank you very much. Supervisor walton . Supervisor walton thank you so much, chair fewer. I was just ready to second moving this forward with the positive recommendation to the full board. Chair fewer okay. Would you like to make the motion . Supervisor walton i will make the motion that we move this forward to the full board with a positive recommendation. Chair fewer madam clerk. Clerk yes, on the motion [roll call] you have three ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. Can you read item number 2. Clerk yes, item 2, ordinance appropriating 126 million of series 2020d Public Health and safety general obligation board proceeds to the department of public work and department of public works in fiscal year 20202021 for facility upgrades in zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital, southeast and the other Community Health centers and neighborhood fire stations, 260 million of series 2020c Affordable Housing general obligation board proceeds in the Mayors Office of housing and Community Development for public, lowincome, preservation and middleincome and Senior Housing obligations, 102 million of series 2020f Affordable Housing preservation and seismic safety general Obligation Bond to mohcd for preservation and seismic safety projects and placing those funds on controllers reserve pending sale of the bonds. To make comment call 1 415 6550001 and code 1466495693. And wait until the system indicates that you are unmuted and you may begin your comments. Chair fewer thank you very much, madam clerk. So we have a lot of speakers on this list. There are 10 speakers. I am hoping that we are not going to hear from 10 speakers today on this item. So we have marissa praya, and we have benjamin bacloksi, and joe chen and diana alberto, and mark primeo and chris dunn. Who is the main speaker for this item . Marissa with the office of public finance. Chair fewer the floor is yours. Thank you so much. Let me pull up the presentation. Our intent is that we will speak and other folks are available for questions if the chair and Committee Members have any. So, good morning. Good morning, chair fewer, supervisor walton and supervisor mandelman. Marissa pratai, the office of public finance. Thank you for the opportunity to present this morning. The item before the committee is an appropriation ordinance that will appropriate the proceeds of three general Obligation Bond issuances, the sale resolutions for these items were heard and approved by the budget and finance committee at a special meeting on tuesday, october 6th. And approved by the full board later that afternoon. The funds appropriated are pending the completion of the sale transactions. This ordinance appropriates the financial issuance of the 2016 Public Health and safety bond and are not to exceed amount of 126. 9 million. These bonds were priced last thursday, october 22nd, and the transaction is expected to complete early next week. This ordinance also appropriates First Issuance from the 2019 Affordable Housing bond in an amount not to exceed 260 million. And these bonds are expected to price in the coming weeks. And, lastly, this ordinance appropriates the proceeds from the second issuance of the preservation and the seismic safety a. K. A. Path, Affordable Housing bond programs and in an amount not to exceed 102. 6 million and it is also anticipated to price in the next coming weeks. So with that, as you had mentioned, cha chair fewer, thes a big team viable if theres questions from you or any member on the committee. Chair fewer thank you very much, colleagues, any comments or questions for marissa. Supervisor mandelman . Supervisor mandelman are we going to have a presentation from city, or is this it . We didnt hav did have a pren back on the 6th but we have benjamin, and others available. Supervisor mandelman i would like to hear from g. O. C. About their thinking on geographic equity and the expenditure of these bond proceeds. Chair fewer supervisor mandelman, would you like to hear from the b. L. A. First or supervisor mandelman we can do the b. L. A. First. Chair fewer okay. Can we hear the b. L. A. Report on this, please. Yes, chair fewer, and members of the committee, the analyst office. Ill be very brief. We did lay out the general provisions of this ordinance. And we did report on the original bonds issuance when attending this committee in early october. Page 7 of our report summarizes the use of these finds. It is consistent with the prior approvals by the board of supervisors of the sale response and we recommend approval. Chair fewer thank you very much. Supervisor mandelman now has a question. Could we have a representative from mohcd, please. Hi, jonah lee from the Mayors Office, director of Portfolio Management and preservation. Thank you, supervisor mandelman, for the question. Geographic equity is one of our core priorities for really all of our programs. I would say that we are, you know, were not happy with the outcome and we have been really been pushing for greater geographic equity across our programs and recognize it as a challenge that, you know, needs continued work and investment on. And on that front to support reaching some of those goals specifically, we are making such investments in strengthening sponsor capacity. Its really our sponsors who we work with who need to extend and to scale their own operations to serve neighborhoods outside of their core neighborhoods. Were confident that the investments that were making specifically to the small clients capacity grants which are key in identifying funding and pushing for pushing for those grants. We are, you know, actively working with those grantees now to strengthen their capacity to bring Additional Resources to support those acquisitions and, you know, across the city. And, you know, additional tools that will support that work are, of course, authorizing the second issuance of the bonds without that lowcost capital. None of the acquisitions across the city will be feasible because otherwise the rates to those sponsors is going to be prohibitively high, particularly in this new environment where were operating in an otherwise otherwise area of constrained resources, specifically on the more subsidy funding sources. That may not, you know, be the answer that you want to hear. I wish that i could say that we have, you know, have delivered more more projects, reaching those goals. But we certainly are aware of the issue and were working towards addressing it. Chair fewer supervisor mandelman, if i may, i think that you bring up a very good question, and actually, i would like to actually see a chart about where these Affordable Housing dollars are going in investments and in which neighborhoods. What were looking for is geographic balance. I think so, actually, i think that you bring up a very good point and i just want to know are we on a timeline for this . Because if we should continue this item until we get that chart and maybe some more information about a deeper understanding about maybe maybe it is the formula in which this is done that you actually need a nonprofit sponsor to work with. The districts that dont have one i think that then are really at a disadvantage. And its really not the fault of i think the district, but its just the way that maybe that we are depending so heavily on the capacity and what are we doing to build the capacity. So i think that these are all questions that i have grappled with as i know as a supervisor in my district. So i am wondering so, supervisor mandelman, i know that you have a question and i dont want to take over your time for comment. But i just thought that this is something that actually we might delve a little deeper into before we approve this item. Supervisor mandelman yes, or even just holding back the Affordable Housing piece of this. Or whatever is simpler. But i do feel like it would be beneficial to have a little more analysis of where we are, because this conversation has been going i mean, supervisor fewer has been trying to have this conversation for a very long time. I have been trying to have this conversation for the two years that i have been here. I recognize there seems to be a general understanding and head nodding that, yes, this is not good to only concentrate Affordable Housing neighborhoods in a very few districts or a very few neighborhoods, but then we keep doing it. And there was specific language put into the bond but i dont think that was meant to mean a feeling of, you know, that we will spend 10 million in district one and 10 million in district 4 and then were done. But, rather, you know, to create a floor and try to have some of the thinking around making sure that the real gold rush that is happening in every neighborhood or has been happening in every neighborhood in San Francisco doesnt result in, you know, a city where we have incredibly gentrified neighborhoods for the most part and a few neighborhoods where we managed to preserve Affordable Housing. So i thank you, chair fewer, for your suggestion and i think it would be good to continue the conversation at our next meeting. Chair fewer thank you, so ill make a motion to continue this item. But before that can we open this up for Public Comment . Clerk yes, madam chair. Operations is checking to see if theres callers in the queue. Let us know if there are callers that are ready. If you have not done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. For those on hold wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. Are there any callers that wish to comment on item number 2 . Madam chair, there are no callers in the kai. Chair fewer Public Comment on item 2 is now closed. I would say that we should probably continue this item to the budget and finance Committee Meeting two weeks from now. Do you think, mr. Lee, that would give you enough time to get the information gathered together . Clerk just to note that i believe that theres a better day. Chair fewer to continue it for three weeks. Mr. Lee, does that interfere with a timeline for you . Id like to actually to maybe maybe marissa or somebody from the Controllers Office can speak to the timeline because im not sure that im exactly clear on the implications of where we are in being able to issue the bond. If this item is continued. I want to just say that, you know, i totally hear the concerns that you have raised today and validate them, but, you know, if the end result of today is a continuance of the item and prevents us from being able to go out to the market and issue the bonds, you know, it holds up many, many Different Things across a lot of our housing programs. Im not sure that that is the intent of the motion to continue. Chair fewer thank you very much, mr. Lee. Marissa, is that interfering with your timelines . Or could you accommodate us for another week . Sure, so one item that i would mention and the City Attorney ann pearson could jump in if she likes. The item before you today is appropriating the proceeds and the sale resolutions have been passed and approved by the board of supervisors. So i dont think that it impacts our ability to sell the bond, its once theyre sold appropriating them into the department. I dont believe that is a timeline issue for either of the Mayors Office of housing bonds. Michelle, could you speak for the Public Health and safety bond, is that going to cause problematic impacts . Yeah, this is michel teretty from the department of public finance. Good morning, madam chair and members of the committee. There would be impacts for the department of the safety bonds and the department of Public Health and public works. We have priced bonds already and we expect to close the transaction on or around the 3rd of november. So the longer this appropriation ordinance gets delayed, the proceeds will have to sit on reserve and the department wont have access for it for several weeks. But i dont believe that will create a significant delay to their projects based on my understanding of the projects. And we have someone from public works here and he can speak to the timing impacts more specifically. Chair fewer thank you. Thats great to hear that its not a severe impact. I would like to make a motion to continue this item. Supervisor mandelman . Supervisor mandelman im wondering if we can look forward to the nonhousing bond the question for the City Attorney, if we can what the let the housing bond guess forward. Deputy City Attorney ann pearson. So theres only one ordinance that combines all of the appropriations. So i dont think that you can pick and choose among it, you have to continue the entire item. Chair fewer thank you. Lets do that. Lets do a motion to continue this item. I would say supervisor mandelman to next weeks meeting or two weeks or three weeks after that. It seems that were not going to have a meeting on the second week of november. So it would have to be the third week of november. And then i think that we are in recess because of a thanksgiving holiday. So why dont we continue this to next week because i think that mr. Lee and the Mayors Office of housing, i think that you actually do have that data. Its just putting it in a format that is easily understood i think by those of us who are somewhat novices on it. Thats great. A motion to continue this item into the next meeting of the budget and finance committee. Could i have a roll call vote. Clerk yes, on the motion [roll call] three ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much, madam clerk, please call item number 3. Clerk item 3, resolution retroactively authorizing the department of Public Health to submit a oneyear application for calendar year 2021 to continue to receive funding for the integrated h. I. V. Surveillance and Prevention Program for the Health Departments from the center of Disease Control and prevention, requesting 7 million in h. I. V. Prevention funding from january 1, 2021, through december 31, 2021. The members of the public to provide Public Comment should call 1 415 6550001. Meeting i. D. Is 1466495693. Then press pound twice. If you have not already done so, please dial star, 3, to line up to speak. The system prompts will indicate that you have raised your hand. Wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and you pay begin your comments. Chair fewer thank you very much. Today we have john anmlechar from the department of Public Health. Good morning, supervisors and i hope that you find it okay during these turbulent times. And thank you on the call to pivoting to a virtual format. Its new for all of us. And i am a Health Program coordinator in the Community Health equity and promotion which is a branch of d. P. H. What we have before you is permission to reapply for a continuation of this c. D. C. Cooperative agreement. We call it 18802, 2018 is when this grant first came out, but weve had a Prevention Grant like this for decades. Over the years, the grants have changed and expanded so that its not just h. I. V. Prevention but it includes s. T. D. , hepatitis c, and now working with people that are experiencing homelessness. So this 18802 grant has three pieces to it. And one of it, the lions share is 4. 2 million for h. I. V. Prevention services. Another 800,000 for epi services. And then a piece of it which is called component b are optin which is a competitive piece that we applied for to reach to improve the outcomes on people experiencing homelessness. Most of the much of the grant supports admin staff and planning and includes the Services Provided by the county by disease prevention and control, in particular the city clinic. Also includes the support for our h. I. V. Prevention Planning Councils, and our Racial Equity communities, and helps fund the staff that also write Program Announcements for programs that are being funded with general funds. I am here to take whatever questions that you may have and if i cant answer them i will forward them on. Chair fewer colleagues, any comments or questions. Supervisor mandelman . Supervisor mandelman i would just like to be added as a cosponsor. Chair fewer great. I have one question is that does any of this grant money intercept with what were doing with our Maternal Health . And are any of these funds actually around the prevention of h. I. V. And s. T. D. S and everything else, working with what youre doing at Public Health around black Maternal Health . Yes. So i can cite a couple of examples for that. We do have theres a monthly meeting that is addressing syphilis and congenital sieve fis especially in San Francisco that is hosted by the s. T. D. Branch of the city clinic. And also we have just released an r. F. P. Earlier actually late last year that was supposed to start the beginning of this year but it was put on hold due to, you know, covid. And that grant was actually indicated a shift on our perspective. Much of our money was based on where the data was and the data that we were looking at was behavioral data. So a lot of talk about men having sex with men and, etc. And the focus is now on communities from which people live. So there was part of the r. F. P. Was focused on the black community and also spectacular money for women. So its a little bit different. So were trying to look at the Racial Equity lens and the population focus as well. Chair fewer what is the data telling us about black women and these diseases . I really couldnt say. I havent really looked at things since the last epi report came out which is for the 2019 data. And i havent had a chance to look at it. Its interesting to see what has happened during the time of covid, whether we have been able to provide the same level of services that we have. I know that our covid focus though is is addressing those populations. There are similar populations that are disproportionately affected populations. But im sorry, i dont have numbers but i can certainly get that for you. Chair fewer okay, im just wondering what the data tells us about black women and whether or not and what sort of integrations that we are doing and specifically to them. So, anyway, we can follow up on that conversation. I think that this is to apply for a grant, is that correct . Yes, correct. Chair fewer yeah, we will open this up for Public Comment please, madam clerk. Clerk madam chair, i wanted to note that the proposed amendment from greg wong from the department of Public Health to correctly state that the current application is on file which the clerk can provide you. Chair fewer mr. Wong, do you want to speak at all, dr. Wong, apologies, do you want to speak to the amendments that youre proposing today . Youre on mute, doctor. Thank you. I just wanted to say that we are submitting an amendment to the previously submitted resolution on page 2, line 23 to replace the wording, to the current use application. Chair fewer okay, thank you very much. City attorney, im assuming that is not substantive . Youre correct, cha chair fe, that is not substantive. Chair fewer thank you very much. Madam clerk, Public Comment, please. Clerk yes, madam chair. Operation is checking to see if theres any callers in the queue. Operations, let us know if there are callers that are ready. If you have not done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. For those on hold continue to wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted. And let us know if there are any callers to comment on item number 3. Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair fewer Public Comment on item number 3 is closed and i make a motion to accept the amendments. A roll call vote, please. Clerk yes. On the motion [roll call] three ayes. Chair fewer i make a motion to move this to the board as amended with a positive recommendation. Roll call vote, please. Clerk yes, on the motion [roll call] three ayes. Chair fewer this amendment passes. Item number 4. Clerk item number 4, a resolution retroactively authorizing the department of Public Health to submit an application to continue to receive funding for the ryan white act h. I. V. aids Emergency Relief Grant Program grant from the Health Resources Services Administration and requesting 15. 7 million in h. I. V. Emergency Relief Program funding for the San Francisco eligible metropolitan area for the period of march 1, 2021 you through february 28, 2022. The members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment on this item should call 1 415 6550001. Meeting i. D. Is 1466495693. Then press pound twice. If you have not done so, dial star, 3, to line up to speak. A system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. Wait until the system indicates that you are unmuted and you may comment. Chair fewer thank you very much. Today our speakers, we have bill bloom and dean guitwin from the department of Public Health. But supervisor, you are a sponsor, would you like to say anything before we start the presentations . Only to thank the folks at d. P. H. And the City Planning Council for all of their fine work. Chair fewer okay. Thank you people at d. P. H. Melissa bloom, the floor is yours. Thank you so much, supervisors, fewer mandelman and walton. Good morning, great to see the work and to have a chance to present to you again about more program funding. Dean and i have set aside slides to give you an overview of the ryan white act, and to see more of how the funds get allocated and spent. Thank you. If you could advance to the next slide, please. So ryan white funding on the bottom left is geared to uninsured and underinsured individuals, and its designed to give h. I. V. Services. We in San Francisco are the grantee for actually for three counties, and including moritz and san mateo. Ryan White Program consists of five partings which you can see on your right. Were speaking specifically about ryan white part a, that was the request for your approval with this board. That is given out to mostly cities and counties and a couple of jurisdictions. It may be interest to know that San Francisco county going through d. P. H. Receives part a and part b as well as part d, and indiscernible reads part f. You can read the amendment, and so all of these parts come into or county. Next slide, please. Did you want to speak to the next slide . Yes. I thought that it was your slide. Sorry. So there are about 15,900 San Francisco residents diagnosed and living with h. I. V. As of the end of december 2019. We provide support services to approximately 7,000 San Francisco residents who are eligible for these Services Based on the income criteria. H. H. F. Comes to the board each year for the process for ryan white granting and we reapply annually but we have learned recently that as of next year in 2021, that we will be applying for a threeyear grant and we wont receive a threeyear award after that so well come in every three years moving forward. And the budget is nearly 38 million annually. Ryan white is about 31 of the funt are funding for the Client Services here in San Francisco. Just in the last year we have raised our financial eligibility from 400 to 500 of f. P. L. As the state was doing that for the part d funds so we wanted to create equity on that for the year 2020. And 500 of the Poverty Level is about 63,800. Next slide, please. As bill said, the funding is a three county e. M. A. Or eligible in the metropolitan area, which is San Francisco and san may sao and morin. They have the clients within the three county area. In the past it was as high as 89 , the numbers in San Francisco have been decreasing proportionally as they are increasing in san mateo which is 11 and morin about 4 . And the services have seen a steady reduction in our federal ryan white h. I. V. Funding since 2001 which was it was about 35. 5 million to 2020, a little under 15 million. With the Grant Funding reductions in prior years was reinstated with general funds since about 2012. This current year in 2020, the e. M. A. Grant was reduced by 368,000, and it was a shift with the client numbers between San Francisco and san may theyo that was a hit of 466,000 to San Francisco county services, which we were able to accommodate by moving some of the existing part a funding that were a good fit for ending the h. I. V. Pandemic that we brought to you a few weeks ago. Next slide, please. And we support a funding and we work closely with the h. I. V. Community Planning Council, which for h. I. V. Health services was established in 1992. And there was a separate h. I. V. Prevention Planning Council, the two of those merged together in 2016. Currently there are 50 seats on the council with five cochairs and three from the community and two government cochairs, and where the funding is coming for the h. I. V. Prevention services. And the mission of the Planning Council is made up with representatives from all three counties, those are recruited and interviewed within the council mechanism and appointed by the mayor. We have goals a goal of onethird of the members being nonaffiliated consumers. And then we have a goal of the Membership Meeting the diversity of the demographics of epidemiology of h. I. V. In our area as well. And just a little bit on the right side here on what the structure is. Theres a full council that meets monthly, of course theyre doing that virtually now, as well as for the committees that also meet monthly, with the bulk of the work done within the committee structure. The Council Receives a lot of information and theres a lot of guidance and work diligently done on both sides. Their overall goal in regards to the prioritization and the allocation of the funding is on a macro level. They dont get information per contract or per agency, thats just with the purview of h. I. V. Services as a grantee that we do really respect and treasure the relationship that we have with our Community Planning body. With that thats the last slide and were open for questions. Thank you for your time today. Chair fewer thank you very much, any comments or questions from colleagues . Supervisor mandelman . Supervisor mandelman yeah, thanks, dean and bill, for the presentation. Im trying to understand as to attachment three, the fiscal year 2020 part a application . Sorry to spring this on you without advanced warning, i try to not do this. But i am trying to understand a couple things about this chart. So one thing is i thought that the 2018 was the year that we got under 200. But this report is 322. So i dont know if that was i thought that last year we made a big deal we got under 200. So i dont know if anybody knows what that is about . Ill let you think about that. And the other question that i have is im just looking at the ethnic breakdown of who is getting well, ethnic and transmission categories of who is getting h. I. V. Or appears to be h. I. V. Based on this chart. We have talked a lot about increasingly affecting lowincome folks and unhoused folks and people of color, but, like, really it looks i mean, its disproportionately impacting african americans, but it is really in 2018 hitting latinos. Am i reading this chart right . Is that the deal . Im not sure that the chart overwhelmingly latino men who have sex with men it looks like. Supervisor mandelman, are you referencing a different presentation in slides than what were share something. Supervisor mandelman im looking in my agenda packet. Sorry. We could offer some opinions about it, and respond if you like, but it may be more appropriate for john melacar to answer, whatever you prefer. Supervisor mandelman well, if you have any thoughts on that and maybe i could get briefing on this because its interesting, particularly wondering what are we doing to reach what is going on with the latin x community, and im guessing, you know, that the latina men who have sex with men, and are we just like throwing a ton of resources at, you know, like reaching people who might not going indiscernible or Something Like that. You dont have to answer that now but im intrigued by this chart. Chair fewer yes, supervisor mandelman, i think that is very interesting. Actually i think that it is actually our responsibility with our power of inquiry to really question that and to ask that. We should continue this item to next week and bring that more information and have a deeper conversation about this. This is something that comes to us annually that we approve. So im actually interested in what are the interventions that were doing and are we doing it in a very racially equitable way. And what is it that we found that works and what doesnt work . So are you gentlemen are on a timeline for is thi . Because i think that is an interesting thing. Bill youre looking at me like what. indiscernible . Chair fewer go to next week and we can have like a deeper conversation about it . Totally open. The question is, again, we can actually talk it from the h. I. V. indiscernible to also want to invite folks from the prevention side which is what rafael is looking at, the newly tested positive. So were happy to talk about it from we work with folks once they test positive. Chair fewer sure. You know, supervisor mandelman, i know that we could call a hearing on this, but this seems like a minihearing, quite frankly. And i think that it was related to budget, right . And it is super interesting also what i have been asking also about black Maternal Health. Supervisor mandelman although i would say in at least 2018, there were zero i think mother with or at risk of h. I. V. Was zero. But that was 2018. But i think that unless this screws up something about, you know,. No, were good. Supervisor mandelman to come back and have a conversation. Chair fewer dean and bill, another thing that is interesting to see how were doing in comparison to other counties. My question was is that i think that we managed for your h. I. V. Community Planning Council area, right . So san mateo and morin and we manage the grant for those counties. But i wanted to know like in the east bay is there a counterpart that is doing this work . I think that when we see different sections and People Living with contracting and living with these infections were seeing it fluid throughout the bay area and its sor sort f regional. So it would be interesting for you and in your presentation to actually to show us by county, is this a regional thing that we should be working together with the regional partners . Are they seeing the same trend . Our population is also having great changes in demographics. So im wondering as we have shifted our de dem our demograpt is the outlook about who are the new infections, what are we doing, what are they doing, are we sharing ideas, what is working. So lets plan for that for the next meeting. I think that actually it would be supervisor mandelman, would you mind to work with the gentlemen about the presentation for next week. Supervisor mandelman my only question if were doing what were doing on h. I. V. And how, you know, how were moving towards the end and how were getting to zero kind of conversations, im wondering if a week is enough. I also thinking, i would like to have that conversation but i dont think that our approval of this is depend only that. Do we have to keep this here to have that discussion . Chair fewer are we able to schedule a hearing here at budget, a minihearing here at budget, after having cast this item out of committee, are we able to hold a hearing on these very questions about the subject matter or does it need to be actually attached to an agenda item that we approve . So i think in the context of reviewing this item, this grant application, its totally appropriate to ask questions about some of the information that was part of the grant application, including the demographic information that was there. I think that if the committee chooses to approve this item and would still like to learn more about this, it would be appropriate for someone to introduce a hearing request which the president then would assign to the appropriate committee. Chair fewer okay. So supervisor mandelman, considering that it is a very much more involved like, we have to wait for so many days, blah, blah, blah, gentlemen im wondering, i think that this is super interesting and you could showcase what youre doing and its great for general public too. Could you and back in a couple weeks the other thing is that i think that you guys are scheduled within a month to hear about the c. D. C. Funding which will make the conversation also more robust so well try to figure out how to chair fewer okay. So were happy to come back in two weeks. Chair fewer okay. Madam clerk, when is our next meeting for the budget and finance committee . Clerk yes, madam chair. The meeting after next would be on november 18th. Chair fewer is november 18th too late . Bill . Yes. Chair fewer okay, good. This is really exciting. Okay, lets open this up for Public Comment. Sorry, buddy. No worries. Chair fewer madam clerk, please. Clerk madam chair, operations is checking to see if there are callers in the queue. Operations, let us know if there are callers that are ready. If you have not already done so, press star, 3, to be added to the queue. For those already on hold wait until the system creates that you have been unmuted. Let us know if there are callers who wish to comment on that item number 4. Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair fewer thank you very much. Public comment on item number 4 is closed, i would like to move this to the meeting of november 18th. A roll call vote, please. Clerk on the motion [roll call] three ayes. Chair fewer thank you very much. Clerk nothing further. E bef . Chair fewer thank you. Thank you. Goodbye. Thank you. 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The presidio which gives us so many trails to walk through, ocean beach, for families to just go to the beach and be in the Pacific Ocean. We also also have a National Park service. We boarded the Golden Gate National Recreation Area so there is a lot of activity to do in the summer time you see people with bonfires. But really families enjoying the beach and the Pacific Ocean during the rest of the time of year. [ ] and Golden Gate Park where we have so many of our treasures here. We have the tea garden, the museum and the academy of sciences. Not to mention the wonderful playgrounds that we have here in richmond. This is why i say the richmond is a great place for families. The theatre is a treasure in our neighborhood. It has been around for a very long time. Is one of our two neighborhood theatres that we have here. I moved here when i was 1959 when i was two years old. We would always go here. I love these neighborhood theatres. It is one of the places that has not only a landmark in the Richmond District, but also in San Francisco. Small theatres showing one or two films. A unique they are unique also to the neighborhood and San Francisco. Where we are today is the heart of the Richmond District. With what is unique is that it is also Small Businesses. There is a different retail here it is mom and pop opening up businesses. And providing for the neighborhood. This is what we love about the streets. The cora door starts on clement street and goes all the way down to the end of clement where you will see Small Businesses even towards 32nd. At the core of it is right here between here and 20 tenth avenue. When we see this variety of stores offered here, it is very unique then of the any other part of San Francisco. There is traditional irish music which you dont get hardly anywhere in San Francisco. Some places have this long legacy of serving ice cream and being a hangout for families to have a sunday afternoon ice cream. And then also, we see Grocery Stores. And also these restaurants that are just new here, but also thriving. [ ] we are seeing restaurants being switched over by hand, new owners, but what we are seeing is a vibrancy of clement street still being recaptured within new businesses that are coming in. That is a really great thing to see. I dont know when i started to shop here, but it was probably a very, very long time ago. I like to cook a lot but i like to cook chinese food. The market is the place i like to come to once a year. Once i like about the market as it is very affordable. It has Fresh Produce and fresh meat. Also, seafood. But they also offer a large selection of condiments and sauces and noodles. A variety of rice that they have is tremendous. I dont thank you can find a variety like that anywhere else. Hi. I am kevin wong. I am the manager. In 1989 we move from chinatown to Richmond District. We have opened for a bit, over 29 years. We carry products from thailand, japan, indonesia, vietnam, singapore and india. We try to keep Everything Fresh daily. So a customer can get the best out a bit. Normally during crab season in november, this is the first place i hit. Because they have really just really fresh crab. This is something my family really likes for me to make. Also, from my traditional chinese food, i love to make a kale soup. They cut it to the size they really want. I am probably here once a week. Im very familiar with the aisles and they know everyone who is a cashier cashier here i know when people come into a market such as this, it looks like an asian supermarkets, which it is and sometimes it can be intimidating. We dont speak the language and many of the labels are in chinese, you may not know what to buy or if it is the proper ingredients for the recipe are trying to make. I do see a lot of people here with a recipe card or sometimes with a magazine and they are looking for specific items. The staff here is very helpful. I speak very little chinese here myself. Thinks that im not sure about, i asked the clerk his and i say is this what i need . Is this what i should be making . And they actually really helped me. They will bring me to the aisle and say this is battery. They are very knowledgeable. Very friendly. I think they are here to serve not only the Asian Community but to serve all communities in the Richmond District and in San Francisco. [ ] what is wonderful about living here is that even though our july is a very foggy and overcast, best neighborhood, the sleepy part outside on the west side is so rich with history, but also with all the amenities that are offered. [ ]. Welcome to the land use and Transportation Committee for San Francisco on monday, october 26, 2020. I am the chair of the committee joined by the clerk. Please proceed. Clerk thank you, mr. Chair. Due to the covid19 Health Emergency and in order to protect the board of supervisors and the public, the chamber and Committee Rooms are closed. The members will be taking care in the meeting remotely. Committee members will attend meetings through Video Conference and participating in the meeting to the same extent as if they are present. Public comment will be available on each item of the agenda. The number to call in is being streamed across the screen. Opportunities to speak are available via phone by calling the number streaming on your screen, thats 4156550001, again thats 4156550001. The meeting i. D. Is 146 347 8588. Again, thats 146 347 8588. Then press pound and pound again again. When connected, you will hear the meeting discussion, but you will be in muted and listening mode only. When your item of interest comes up, please press star and three to the added to the speaker line. Its best to speak from a quiet location, speak clearly and slowly and turn down your television or radio. You may submit Public Comment via email to me at erica. Major sfgov. Org. Items submitted today will appear on the agenda of november 3, unless otherwise stated. Chair i would like to acknowledge that the other members of the board are present. Clerk item one is an ordinance amending the Building Code to require new construction to utilize only electric power; amending environment code to provide public hearings on implementation of allelectric requirement; adopting findings of local conditions under. Members of the public wishing to comment should call the number streaming on the screen, thats 4156550001, and the meeting i. D. Is 146 347 8588. Press found and pound again. If you have not done so already, please press star three to speak. Chair thank you, madam clerk. I want to acknowledge the work that supervisor mandelman has done. This is the thirst time this had appeared at the Transportation Committee. Supervisor mandelman has been at the forefront of a contentious issue working with the house labor and working with the Restaurant Community and the Chinese Chamber of commerce. I think we are very close. There may be some nonsubstantive tweaks that could happen in committee today or at the full board of supervisors next week. With that, ill turn it over to supervisor mandelman. Thank you, chair peskin. Thank you to all members of the meet for engaging with this legislation over a few of these meetings. As you will recall, a week ago the committee accepted several amendments to the legislation, but continued it to give the Broader Community additional time to review and understand some of the amendments. One of these was an amendment to include a waiver process for restaurants that require gas facilities for their unique cuisine or cooking style. Again, these waivers would be appealable to the board of examiners as specified in the ordinance and also to the board of appeals as well. Ive had a chance to discuss this with the Chinese Chamber of commerce and the San Francisco chamber of commerce as well. I want to be clear both groups would prefer a broader exemption for future restaurant spaces, but i believe this limited restaurant waiver strikes the proper balance allowing for continued use of gas in New Buildings in the future, in the cases where appropriate and necessary, while at the same time taking the transition away from natural gas in San Francisco. As you know and as chair peskin referenced, weve also been in conversations with local 38 pipe fitters about Just Transition. We are in the midst of what i hope will prove to be productive conversations about nonpotable water reuse and i look forward to working with city staff, local 38, and other Staff Members over the coming months to bring forward legislation that will advance our commitment to water reuse. Folks, mr. Mazola and i hoped the conversations would have progressed a bit further prior to voting this legislation out. We will continue these conversations next week and i will assure mr. Mazola if were not comfortable to where it is at prior to being voted on at the full board, i will myself request a continuance of that legislation for at least one week at the full board. Im saying that now here publicly to make the commitment known to all. Before concluding, colleagues, i just want to extend my thanks to the committee and all the staff who have worked on a proposal to get us to this point. Everyone who participated in the zero emissions Building Task force and my colleagues on the team and i want to extend a huge thank you to the Climate Emergency coalition and earth justice and the two dozens environmental organizations who championed this effort from the beginning and remind us every step of the way of the dire emergency of the Climate Crisis that continues to unfold around us. With that, colleagues, i am hopeful and would request that you would be able to forward this legislation to the full board with positive recommendations today. Chair thank you, supervisor mandelman. Can you character the sera club organizati organization. Can you speak to that . I believe the sierra club are in support of Just Transition and would want to see this board of supervisors and city and count of San Francisco make sure that the transition to a greener economy does not leave workers behind. I dont think they want to see this legislation delayed. Chair relative to the Just Transition, that what youre speaking about relative to local 38 and the Building Trades . Yes, that is what im talking. The concern for the trade fitters is the potential additional work involved in electrification is not going to make up for the work that is lost in transitioning away from natural gas. There are Good Union Jobs that can be had through increased water reuse and recycling. San francisco has been a leader, at least in the United States around that. I think it was the hope of the plumbers and pipe fitters that we will break some new ground and move further. Im happy to try and help make that happen. Chair break new ground as long as we dont break any pipes. Relative to the work that youve been doing by by way of full disclosure ive been participating in as it relates to the restaurant world. And the solution that you came up with at our last meeting that was a waiver process and the questions around how that waiver process would be applied and what the due process provisions would be applied. Can you speak to that, mr. Sponsor. Yeah, so the waiver process is more fully developed in an administrative bulletin that will need to go through the p. B. I. Process. All parties concerned will have an opportunity to make their voices married through that process. There will be an administrative bulletin. Ultimately a decision to grant or not the waiver is with the director of the department and his designee. Any permit any Building Permit including the decision of whether or not to grant a natural gas exemption for a restaurant can also be appealed to the board of appeals. Supervisor mandelman, as i spoke to you earlier, the notion of the board of examiners as somebody whos been on the board of supervisors for 13 of the last 20 years was unknown to me. Can you tell me what this body is and how theyre appointed . I will find that out. It is the body that under the Building Code is the appeal body. Chair yes, i brought this up in my staff meeting this morning and i haves the board of appeals i know, the administrative arm i understand, but this body is unknown to me and how theyre appointed and whether or not we would consider that to be a fair and impartial adjudicatory body, i would like to hear about that. The short answer is theyre appointed by the b. I. C. And there are 13 members. I will find out if they have particular qualifications around their building knowledge. Chair how often do they meet and what other appeals come to them . I have to say ive never heard of this entity until you made those amendments. Me either. Chair i dont know who that was. I just wanted to underscore, mr. Chair, that i never heard of that either. Chair put your name on the moster and then ill call on you. The floor is yours when youre done eating. Im not eating. Thank you. Ill wait to make my comment and then ill go ahead after Public Comment. Chair supervisor preston, any comments now . Not now. Chair madam clerk, why dont we open this up for Public Comment. Clerk thank you, mr. Chair. Were checking if we have any callers in the queue. If you have not done so, please press star three to enter the queue to speak. You only need to do this once. The system will indicate that you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. Chair first speaker, please. My name is dave fehee and i am with local 38 plumbers and pipe fitters union. Im also a member of the mayors zero emission task force and some of the commercial work groups. Ive been involved from the first meeting up until today. Lets start by recognizing the supervisors of the land use and Transportation Committee for their committed support and consideration. I would also like to applaud the ordinance sponsor supervisor mandelman and his staff and all the associated San Francisco agencies that have continued to work their efforts for an equitable transition, including presentday participation just mentioned with the work sessions. It is attributed to the workforce, the citizens, and the future. I would like to recognize the environmental groups that continue to work with us, it is greatly appreciated and all the callers who have supported the water reuse and conservation, through calgreen and other sustainable goals. Weve been using the metaphor along the way as the electrification ordinance due to its complexity as a plane which were trying to land. I would like to think of it the other way around that its a plane on the runway and were trying to land it safely for everyone on board for a smooth takeoff and where the plane or San Francisco travels with this ordinance will not just be Climate Change action, but all further resource protection. We remain optimistic and fully engaged with all involved for a smooth transition to a bluegreen implemented program minimizing building impacts on the project thank you so much for your comments. Next speaker, please. You will note that your line is unmuted. Yes, i live in San Francisco in district 11. Good afternoon, Committee Members. I have spent some of my time during the period of isolation forced on us by covid reading up on Climate Change. I dont have to tell you that what is coming is genuinely frightening. This is why youre considering this ordinance. Its an early step in reducing San Franciscos projection of greenhouse glasses and limited Climate Change. This is the lowlying fruit, the easy first step. Im a homeowner and my home uses gas for the air and water heaters and the stove. Im interested what you do next to establish a path for people like me to get rid of gas. I just just lowered my thermometer and going to attempt to get through with hats and sweaters and space heaters. I realize how trivial the steps are, but i think there are a lot of san franciscans like me who are very concerned about Climate Change and want to do all they can to limit it. Its certainly why im here today. I appreciate the work this committee and the staff has spent working on this. I ask you to act quickly and send the full ordinance to the board of supervises. Clerk thank you, speaker. Next speaker, youll have two minutes. Youll be told your line is unmuted. Good afternoon. Comments on behalf of the california [indiscernible] supervisor mandelman for continuing to have productive discussions with us. As we discussed last week [indiscernible] and appliances in New Buildings. The electrification ordinance should be tied to additional requirements to expand the requirements for installing rainwater and recycled Water Systems in new construction. This would provide workers impacted with new replacement work and also further benefit San Francisco and provide a substantial energy and water savings. Were hoping to have language work quickly to improve the ordinance that will put the city in a path to transition the workers. We would ask the committee to delay this by a year so we have time to do this. Given the timing that we have, we want to make sure the committee amends the ordinance to recognize the job impact and to include a decline for staff to come back with a proposed ordinance expanding the rainwater requirements. Id like to thank [indiscernible] Environmental Defense fund for continuing to work with us and for supporting us on this issue. I know theyre ready and willing to help us go down. [indiscernible] provision that San Francisco can take to protect its water, protect its environment, and provide a Just Transition to the workers that are otherwise going to be losing their cabs due to the electrification ordinance. Thank you. Clerk next speaker. Thank you, supervisor mandelman, again for all your hard work on this through all these months. Time is running out for the warming planet, for people, and all other forms of life on earth. For this ordinance to be passed on to the full board, electrifying New Buildings is an important first step. Please, no further delay. As a grandparent and an organic gardener, i care object a sustainable future. Please vote this ordinance out of committee and let the full board vote on it. Hello, supervisors. This is jennifer haggie, a member of 350 s. F. From district seven. I urge you to support this legislation with a minimum of exceptions and would like to reiterate three points. There are culinary schools now that teach cool on electric stoves and many cuisines that prepare food on interest stoves. Natural gas emissions leak during transit and in our homes and kitchens. It would be far more expensive to retrofit buildings after theyve been constructed rather than during construction. I urge you to carry this legislation forward with a minimum of exceptions. Thank you for your time. Clerk thank you for your comment. We have 26 listeners and 14 in the queue. Next speaker, please. Good afternoon, supervisors. My name is paul vermer and i have, as many have spoken at prior subcommittee hearings on this matter. I want to return to the theme of Public Notice and a public hearing when an exception is granted. They make a big deal to how i can appeal it to the board of examiners, who traditionally have focused on specific, technical issues related to Building Code only. Unfortunately, we have no way of knowing when a permit has been issued. There is no provision to allow notice. So we cannot appeal in a timely manner in this set up that has been put forward. Supervisor peskin, you have been well involved with things like the neighborhood commercial district. You may recall a similar provision in the code for the neighborhood commercial district and called for a review every two years. When i started paying attention to these issues in the commercial districts in San Francisco, that was 10 years after the legislation had been passed. It took until 2007, i believe, nearly 20 years before any hearing was held. Mandated a hearing in the code and an update in the code does not necessarily make it happen, especially not if, for example, Department Heads really dont want to push it forward. So im concerned that you are casting your hope for public understanding in a very in a system that has not demonstrated to be robust. That said, i think it is essential to get this legislation before the board and passed unanimously your time has expired. Clerk next speaker. I am a resident of district five. I want to really support this. As a renter, i live in a house that is more than 50 or 75 years old well, the house is 100 years old, but the electrical system is 50 years old. That is a challenge. For example, we want to install an electric dryer. Anything that can be installed now will be in use for the next 50 years. I would very much love the plumbers to be able to install a gray water system for me and my neighbors who are in 50 or 75yearold buildings that havent been updated. So i think theres definitely room for everybody to benefit from this. The only thing the people who will get hurt the most are people today and people in 50 years will have to deal with bad air quality, worse Climate Change, the many, many problems that were seeing. If we continue to have fires like this and people have to be sealed into their homes due to the smoke which is going to be true for at least every year is going to be worse for Climate Change now. That means everybody who gets natural gas will have a worse air quality in their kitchen from now until we do eventually get rid of the natural gas. A change now means faster change to gray water. Thats the cycle of construction in San Francisco. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comment. We have 21 listeners and 10 in the queue. Next speaker, please. My name is stephanie. Im a constituent in district eight. This is my third time calling in to the board of supervisors, but ive been following this issue through mothers out front and the Climate Emergency coalition. Much like heidi was saying, this hit home when we were sealed in our apartment, couldnt open windows, and i had to cook on the gas stove, i notice the fumes. Every time i walk by our gas stove i notice fumes whether or not it is on. I learned from a pregnancy and Toddler Health seminar that we need to have windows open when cooking with gas, but now we cant have them open. What are we being subjected to and designing for new homes . Im really excited and proud to be from rafaels district and i want to be proud of San Francisco set be exampling for california and other parts of the United States, having a transition that ensures health and creates jobs like the union. People have said theres great opportunity here. I ask that you pass this as soon as possible with as few exceptions as possible, close those loopholes and the other gentlemans comment about notifying us when you are considering making an exception is really important as well, so thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Youll be notified that your line has been unmuted and you may begin your comments. Hello, im debra lee stark, a resident of district nine. As a 73yearold professional photographer, im dismayed that we dont do more to mitigate Climate Change. We need to be making superhuman efforts. Prohibiting the expansion of natural gas in our buildings is important to me because its a definite step we can take now and its relatively easy. Induction cooking has advantages over gas, its better, theres no loss of energy to the air. This is a crucial moment for Climate Action in california and San Francisco can be a leader. Please pass the all interest new construction ordinance with no further carve outs so we can start working on the next steps in Climate Emergency solutions. Thank you. Clerk next speaker. Im a constituent in district two speaking as the typical san franciscan. Im so glad to see this moving ahead preventing the expansion of natural in our buildings. Compared to the rest of the world, i am pretty privileged. Lets not forget that it is the top 5 of the world emitting the emissions worldwide. That top 5 is us. I want to move ahead of the curve so we can do this with justice to the people in town who are less privileged than me because we have a huge income disparity. To do it with proper income consideration, we need to move now. We can lead the bay area, california, and the nations and really literally lead the world. It is a crucial moment for Climate Action everywhere in california to see a change in what were doing. So i urge you to move forward with no further carve outs. Clerk next speaker. Im a resident of district eight. Obviously, as you know, we obviously support this ordinance. Were excited that many of the concerns have been addressed. Thank you to supervisor mandelman and also the committee for the time youve put into this ordinance in the last month or so and all the demands on your time. Im going to take the rest of my time to lay out the work. This is only the beginning. Were succeeding in no longer making the problem worse. We still have to require active construction for new restaurants and a swap with the buyer exception, build our local workforce and knowledge for building these buildings and then we have to retrofit all existing buildings. This is no small task. The tasks ahead are more daunting and require more will. We cannot afford to address Climate Change with only the easy stuff. This is easy. The technology is there. Were in a Climate Emergency and its time to act like it. Please pass this ordinance so it can take effect in january 2021 as promised last year. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. I would like to point out one major concern in a proposed solution. This is about the feasibility for the restaurants who need natural gas to cook. A developer may not know what restaurant they would want to have in their new space, unless there is a higherend restaurant sought after. You need to make sure that the smaller momandpop restaurants have the ability to open in the new developments. We require that new developments can bring in gas lines so that any restaurants requiring a cooking method can change it. It would be in our minds a lot more Small Business friendly to have the waiver process for the turn on of gas rather than its installation, assuming that not all restaurants will need this option, but to have the option in place could makeorbreak some businesses. We want to make sure that the city of San Francisco has the ability to open restaurants in all neighborhoods in San Francisco. Thank you all for your time again and have a great day. [indiscernible] im with the family Emergency Coalition and i live in district five. Ive been working [indiscernible] hearing the concerns, [indiscernible] pass this legislation as fast as possible [indiscernible] further prohibiting natural gas [indiscernible] as a previous caller has said the infrastructure can be used for up to 50 years. To what we do now will have longterm impacts [indiscernible]. This is a crucial moment for Climate Action in california. Please pass an allelectric use construction ordinance [indiscernible]. Thank you. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. You have two minutes. Hello, supervisors. Good afternoon and thank you for the opportunity to comment. I work at an independent nonprofit looking to shift to a lowcarbon future. [indiscernible] im asking for you to approve the passage of the ordinance. Moreover, r. M. I. Is recommending to the full board an allelectric new construction ordinance without amendments to close the financial feasibility loopholes. Feasibility should be determined without regard to financial area or amenity related losses. Safeguard the community from the toxic side effects of natural gas by scoping the chinatown cultural exemption as narrowly as possible. Natural gas is a killer both indoors and out. Leaks in our pipes cause health issues. Even with properly functioning ventilation, there is a risk of health issues. [indiscernible] every single new building allowed to add Gas Infrastructure unnecessarily adds harms for new generations. Electric New Buildings are the first step in addressing the Climate Emergency. This ordinance has been over a year in the making. It must be passed now. Please pass this ordinance. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. We have 17 listeners and five in the queue. Im [indiscernible] emergency climate coalition. [indiscernible] leading to at least 30 more annual hospital visits by children. We have more acute and concentrated [indiscernible] further burden lowincome communities. There is no excuse of a further delay [indiscernible] the Climate Change impacting generations through decades to come. I want you to look into every parents eyes and tell them you did everything you could possible. This policy is just the First Step Towards protecting all of our health and its taken far too long given whats at stake. [indiscernible] annually in Health Benefits to the greater San Francisco area. Commercial electrification will be roughly double that, contributing 2. 5 billion. [indiscernible] i want to see San Francisco and those in power leading. Please pass this ordinance with no further carve outs so we can get to the hard work in the next steps [indiscernible] health solutions. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Thank you all for your work on this ordinance. It has taken a lot of people, people in the community, myself included, who have worked on this for about a year and a half. I am in district nine. I will note only that when things are changing, we all experience a certain amount of fear and reluctance. The truth is we have to make this change. We cannot continue to allow the burning of natural gas in our buildings. We could consider all the impacts, the fears, the worries, the financial stakes that people in this community have. And it would be in the committees for years. We have to make this change. Certainly we need to consider peoples jobs and the Just Transition and the impact this will have on vulnerable communities. But at a certain point, we have to go ahead with this and this is the point. I urge you to vote for this measure today to not add any more exclusions, and to send this off so we can end the process of using natural gas in our buildings. Clerk next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. Hi, this gabriel dawson. Im a resident and a renter in district two. I want to speak in favor of this resolution. I want to echo many of the profound comments already made that this is a critical thing to do for the Health People now and the future of our city. I think we should move forward without any exemptions. The financial concerns or the concerns about Small Businesses dont change the science. If we start doing carve outs for the restaurants and other things, its complete its not any different than climate denial at this point because the time to act is now and we need to act as strongly as possible so we can move forward as fast as possible. Any time there is a carve out, this dilutes the effectiveness of this action and hurts the health of our residents. This contributes to the catastrophic destruction of our planet that urges many members to move forward as quickly as possible on the legislation without any more exemptions or amendments. This should be thought of as the first step in many intense and drastic actions we need to take as a city to combat Climate Change and also to deal with things in Climate Change that were facing this year and will face more into the future. Thank you. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hi [indiscernible] im calling so that yall know we support the immediate adoption of this ordinance and also acknowledge the concerns raised by local 28. Were appreciative of the work that supervisor mandelman has tak taken. We commit to supporting supervisor mandelman and local 38 to find a path forward. This is a critical moment for San Francisco and california [indiscernible] San Francisco can and will make a huge impact on the state. We really hope to work with multiple cities in San Francisco and for the governor to encourage a statewide ordinance. There is still a lot of work to be done to pass this. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Im a constituent in district three. We all know the science. We have less than 10 years to take Climate Action and this will be a major first step [indiscernible] prohibiting the natural gas in our buildings is important to me because im concerned about Climate Change. We need to do something about it right now. This is a crucial moment for Climate Change [indiscernible] Climate Solutions. Clerk thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello, im a resident of district three. I wanted to say thanks to supervisors mandelman and dean preston for all their hard work on this. Despite the loopholes [indiscernible] ready requirements is a loophole for Small Development approximates. I want us to continue the path this ordinance will put us on. Weve been waiting years for Climate Change action. Frankly, the experience of this process does not bode well for the challenge ahead of us. I applaud supervisor mandelman for doing so much of the heavy lifting and i hope other supervisors will step up. Clerk thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, im a constituent in district two. We all know the science and that the window is quickly closing for being able to do anything significant about Climate Change and global warming. We have [indiscernible] i own an old victorian home. [indiscernible] i even have some fixtures where there is a leak going up and used to be part of a gaslight. At the same time, an electrical fixture, where you can screw in a light bulb. We are at a [indiscernible] urgent than was the case 140 years ago. So i hope that the board will move on this without any carve outs and to move expeditiously. We have to begin to figure out ways of preserving the future for future generations before we all burn up. So i do want San Francisco to lead in this regard and task the allelectric reconstruction ordinance and get working on Climate Solutions right away. Thank you very much. Qulnchts thank you for your time. Next speaker, please. Youll clerk thank you for y time. Next speaker, please. Youll have two minutes. I want to commend San Francisco for passing this ordinance and the process of doing that. I think its important you understand the three safety issues of not going ahead with this. The first would be the effect of the Carbon Dioxide in the sphere. The natural gas is equal to the combustion of natural gas. By not doing this, were putting burning coal into the atmosphere. The second thing is the nitrogen dioxide from cooking is harmful to young asthma patients and we need to move away from that. The third is theres been explosions, one of which on your door shep [indiscernible] killed eight people. For safetys sake, please go ahead with this as soon as possible. We [indiscernible] thank you clerk i believe that was our last caller. Can you confirm if there are any more callers . Operator that was the last caller. Clerk mr. Chair. Chair madam clerk. Clerk that was our last caller. Chair i understand that. I believe that supervisor safai had a comment. Thank you, mr. Chair. Again, i just want to thank supervisor mandelman and his team for keeping us informed and the department of environment for staying on top of this in terms of getting information to us and answering all of our questions. The office of economic and Workforce Development for working with us. Im happy to say that the majority of the questions i had last week we have an answer or a path forward on. With regard to the Development Agreement, office of economic workforce and development is going to continue to work with the d. B. I. On their administrative bulletin. I think supervisor mandelman might have referenced that, but in terms of the impairment language and the process of implementation, i think we narrowed it down to essentially Treasure Island that had some of the most reservations. I think with the impairment language and working with d. B. I. And the impairment bulletins, were going to get there. I think the good news is a lot of the Horizontal Development has done, but there is still room for changes to the vertical development. So all the folks that called, i think that is one we can check off. I think were good. Im not asking for any amendments or adjustments. The second thing is the building trade adjustments. I know supervisor mandelman cares about that. I want to reiterate my support for there to be further conversations, working with the Building Trades and local 38 in particular. If theres way im happy to do. The one issue that is perplexing to me and it is on the conversation around transformers, i just know from practice over the years that i worked with the planning and the Building Department and those proposing developments, that they can have standoff and de y delay. [indiscernible] i want to continue to work on the issue. Im going to ask the committee to duplicate the file so we can work on that. I think that will be a continued, positive step because if we continue to work that out, it will capture more buildings and allow for buildings to be all electric in cases they might not be. The way i understand the issue is we cant just make a blanket statement which will allow for all buildings to transform in the public right of way. There has to be a review of the process. We intend for that to be the case. I would like to work with those. The last issue is a very, very small subset of what chair peskin said, in instances with restaurants and new construction. I understand the language that was put in that says someone can go through the process of appealing and asking for a waiver. Its just a process of how that plays out in real life. If you are intending to put in a waiver, it is financially infeasible and possibly technically infeasible after the fact if the lines are not there. Thats along thing were going to look at in our duplicated file so we can finalize those last ones. One will be the Climate Action club and wanting to see more buildings have more electric. That will be a positive step in dealing with the transformers. And the restaurant issue, i think because we created a process for a waiver, it has to be an actual and usable process for a waiver. I think theres more work to be done there. I would make a motion to duplicate the file. I dont know if i need a second for that. No, you dont. You can do that as a matter of right, as a member of this committee, supervisor. Correct. And in the convening week, i will work on both issues, but certainly the restaurant issue because i think that is something that can be worked on more quickly. We have made progress since this was introduced in june. I know its been awkward about since last year, but it was definitely introduced in june. Youre beating my timeline in terms of when supervisor peskin worked on the inclusionary housing and how much time it took from the beginning of the spring all the way to thanksgiving. This has gone at a very accelerated pace. I believe and agree that our Environmental Crisis demands that we do that. Its just these last two issus. S chair thank you, supervisor. Let me just start by thanking you for all the work that has gone into this clearly. Everyone mentioned, particularly the environmental advocates who have held all of our collective feet to the fire, appropriately so, in trying to push things forwa forward, particularly what weve heard about from the Chinese Chamber and Building Trades. There is a collective hearing from colleagues and shared by our other colleagues on the board to seriously engage around the Just Transition issues around this legislation moves forward. Supervisor mandelman, through the chair, thank you for your work on this over what i think has been about a year balancing the interests. There is an urgent impact in terms of the overall emissions, household and Family Health and safety. I would like to be added as a cosponsor and i would like to move this item to the full board with recommendation. Clerk thank you, supervisor. Ms. Rafael from the department of the environment, i would like you to speak to the legislation in general and the amendments that you have heard this afternoon. The floor is yours. Chair where are you . I see myself but not on the screen. Thats a background in san pablo bay. Chair i thought your office was getting better. I didnt realize that was my background. Im not speaking from there, but my home office. Im very grateful. The issues raised are important and fair. We cannot supervisor peskin, you brought this up in the very first hearing that is critical for our society. I feel like the department of building inspection and all the other city Agency Agencies willn this. I am committed to working with everyone and excited to get going. Thank you for this opportunity. Chair thank you, ms. Rafael. Do you do that in conjunction with the office of economic and Workforce Development or do you have that function within your department . We work very closely with joaquin tores and the office of development. We will be working with them to get developers ready to comply with this ordinance and to understand the legalities of their compliance, what those issues are. And of course we work very closely with them on labor and Workforce Development as well. One of the benefits of this ordinance is the opportunity for green jobs and to support retraining of folks and new training of folks to benefit from the green economy. Chair ms. Rafael earlier the chief sponsor supervisor mandelman spoke to that exact concept as it relates to recycled water that has proven very successful in other communities. It may or may not be a good fit for San Francisco given how old it is. Any comments on that . That would be speaking out of my expertise range. My colleagues in the p. U. C. Are much more knowledgeable than that. Clearly the concept of recycled water and using as much Water Resources outside of our groundwater is attractive and important. The feasibility of it is. I dont have the expertise to comment on it. Chair thank you, ms. Rafael. Supervisor safai, would you like to make a motion to continue the duplicated file to the call of the chair as you work on the mentioned amendments that you are working on . I would, mr. Chair, but can we make it continued to next week because i believe ill have it continued to then. Chair absolutely. If you make a motion to duplicate the file to november the 2nd. So moved. Chair madam clerk, on that motion, a roll call. [ roll call ] chair then i believe that supervisor preston made a motion to move this file that was amended, which amendments were substantive a week ago, and i will add there may be some amendments at the full board that would not be substantive that sponsor mandelman and cosponsor preston are working on. On that motion made by supervisor preston, send this item as previously amended with recommendation and the understanding that there could be more substantive changes at the full board. On that motion, a roll call. Can we clarify this amendment . There is no amendment. The item was amended a week ago. There were no amendments made or offered today. I was merely saying for the record to all that are listening and i could drill down into this a little bit. Supervisor mandelman and i have significant conversations today about the board of examiners, which appellate body has met two times in the next three years. We may only go to the board appeals. Those things could happen at the full board next week. They are nonsubstantive in nature. I was saying to the public that there may be some amendments that are forthcoming. But your motion to move this to the full board with recommendation is before us on that motion. Madam clerk, a roll call. [ roll call ]]. Chair next item, please clerk item 2 is an ordinance amending the administrative code to require sellers of multifamily residential buildings to provide a new right of first offer and right of first refusal to qualified Nonprofit Organizations if a multifamily residential building is not under contract or remains unsold after one year and after each year thereafter; require sellers to provide additional disclosures to qualified Nonprofit Organizations; provide information to current tenants, and assist qualified nonprofits with due diligence; and allow multifamily residential buildings acquired by qualified Nonprofit Organizations under the Community Opportunity to purchase act. Members of the public should call the number streaming on the screen, 4156550001, and use access code 146 347 8588. Press pound and pound again. Mr. Chair. Chair supervisor fewer, the floor is yours. We continued this as amended to todays meeting. If you have any comments, the floor is yours. Thank you. Supervisor fewer is not able to be here today. I am the legislative aide to supervisor fewer. Good afternoon, supervisors. Thank you for having me. As you just mentioned, chair peskin, at last weeks hearing supervisor fewer spoke about the purpose of this legislation and thanked all of our Community Partners and cosponsors for all of their support on this. As you all know, the Community Opportunity to purchase act has helped our qualified nonprofits purchase apartment buildings that are at risk of losing their affordability and preserve them as permanent Affordable Housing. This prevents the displacement of vulnerable tenants. I want to reiterate what this legislation before you today does to enhance copa. This is really based on the experience from our nonprofits on the ground over the past year. This legislation will make it easier for qualified nonprofits to decide whether to make an offer on a building by requiring the seller to provide them with more complete disclosures, provide more engagement with tenants by requiring sellers to provide an information sheet about copa. Add clarifying language to further prevent offmarket sales, will prevent megalandlords from dumping dozens of buildings on the market at the same time and overwhelming qualified nonprofits as a result. This will require sellers to renotify qualified nonprofits and provide them a new opportunity to purchase the building if it remains on the market after one year. Also its going to allow qualified nonprofits the option to convert rental buildings to coops that comply with the restrictions. And thanks for the amendments accepted last week. I will also exempt land dedications made to the city as part of a Development Agreement for the purpose of building new Affordable Housing. Thank you so much for your support of this amendment last week. I would also like to thank the other supervisors for cosponsoring this piece of legislation. Supervisor fewer and i would respectfully ask for this committees positive recommendation to a full board of the Committee Report. Thank you so much, chair peskin. Chair thank you. I would like to be added as a cospons cosponsor. Are there any members of the committee who would like to comment on this item . Seeing none, is there any Public Comment on this item number two . Clerk we are checking to see if we have any callers in the queue. Can you let us know if there are any callers ready to speak. If you have not done so, press star three to be added to the queue and we will unmute your line. Operator there are zero callers in the queue. Chair Public Comment is now closed and i would like to make a motion to send this item as a Committee Report with recommendation. On that, a roll call, please. [ roll call ] clerk you have three ayes. Chair madam clerk, is there any further business before this committee . Clerk no further business. Chair we are adjourned. Thank you. Snl flsh hi. Im chris manners, and youre watching coping with covid19. Today, im going to be talking about checking with your neighbors. Start off by giving your neighbor a call to see how they are or if they need help. If they dont answer, dont get anxious. Try again later. Check to see if their car is parked nearby. Are they lights being turned on and off during normal hours . If you still cant contact them, contact your other neighbors and see if theyve had contact with them recently. You can also leave a note in their mailbox, and when you do get in touch with them, ask if theyd like to share their Emergency Contact information. If youre getting groceries for a neighbor, get a mask and sanitizing wipe. Put the groceries by the front door and then move back and call them from the sidewalk. If you need to ring the doorbell, dont use your hand. Use the wipe or paper towel that you brought. When you call, stay on the sidewalk at least 6 feet away from them. As youre talking to them, ask about any other help they might need. Some might need further assistance with groceries or just need to chat. Maybe they might need you to pick up prescriptions from the pharmacy. And as always, as soon as you get home, wash your hands. Heres a quick recap. Well, thats it for this episode. I hope you found it useful. Go to sfgov for good morning, the meeting will come to order. Welcome to the october 26, 2020, meeting of the rules committee. I am supervisor hillary ronen, the chair of the committee. With me on Video Conference is the rules vicechair, stefani and member jordan mar and our clerk today is victor young. And i would also like to thank sfgovtv for staffing this meeting. Mr. Clerk, do you have any announcements . Clerk yes. Due to the covid19 Health Emergency, and to protect the board members, City Employees and the public, the board of supervisors Administrative Chamber and Committee Room are closed. The members will be participating in the meeting remotely. The Committee Members will attend the meeting through Video Conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. Public comment will be available at each item on this agenda. And both on channel 26 and sfgovtv. Org, and they are streaming the numbers across the screen. Comments are opportunities to speak during the Public Comment period and are available via phone by calling 1 415 6550001. And, again, that is 1 415 6550001. The meeting i. D. Is 1464986060. Again, that is 1464986060. Then press pound and pound again. When connected you will hear the meeting discussions but muted and in listening mode only. When your item of interest comes up dial star, 3, to be added to the speaker line. The best practices are to call from a quiet location and speak clearly and slowly and to turn down your television or radio. Alternatively you may submit Public Comment to myself at the rules Committee Clerk at victor. Young sfgovtv. Org. And if you submit by email its forwarded to the supervisors and will be included as part of the official file. That concludes my comments. Chair ronen thank you. Can you please read item number one. Clerk item one is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending march 1, 2021, one member, term ending march 1, 2022, and two members terms ending march 1, 2023. To the Inhome Supportive Services Public Authority. Chair ronen thank you so much. And if alexander madrid is us today . Alex madrid . Yes, i am. Chair ronen good morning. Thank you so much for being with us. I was wondering if you have any comments for us about your interest in participating in this body . No, i just want to say to the committee that i thank you for considering me as a member of the board members. Chair ronen thank you so much. We really appreciate your willingness to serve. Thank you. Is there any other questions for mr. Madrid . Nope. Okay, thank you so much. And next i want to see if sascha bittner is here . Miss bittner here . I see s. B. , which im wondering if that is her. Clerk she is logged in, however, were just waiting for her to turn on her microphone. Chair ronen okay. Well wait a sec. Clerk miss bittner, if you can hear us, we are calling on you at this time. Chair ronen and i do want to say that Daisy Mcarthur who is an incumbent is unable to be here today. So were not going to hear from her but she is an incumbent and has been a wonderful member of the board. And ill just say that. And if miss bittner maybe shes having some technical difficulties. So dont we see if robin wilsonbeattle is here. Hi. I am robin wilsonbeattle. Im here. I dont see my name, but chair ronen we hear you. Okay. Chair ronen thank you for being here. Do you have any statement or comments for us . I am just really excited. I have been on both sides of the i have been a consumer of the services but i have also worked in disability advocacy, you know, about these services. And worked as a personal care attendant. So i get both sides of whats going on. [laughter] im excited. Chair ronen thats fantastic. Thank you so much. And thank you for your willingness to apply and to serve in this really important capacity. We appreciate it very much. I want to make sure that none of my colleagues have any questions. Thank you. That that is it for now. And i wanted to just see if miss bittner was able to join us . Clerk she is logged on with us but she is not responding at this point and it may be technical in nature. Chair ronen okay, okay, no worries. Ill just sta state for a momenn miss bittners behalf, i dont know if she remembers me, but i remember her. Shes worked a lot with the Domestic Worker coalition and with handinhand, which is an organization that of employers that helps to advocate on behalf of Domestic Workers, including inhomecare support services and has just been such a leader in that movement. So im very excited about her application to this body. But if she is unable to join us, well give her a chance after Public Comment. But why dont we open this item up for Public Comment while we are waiting. Clerk excuse me. [clearing throat] yes, the members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment on this item should call 1 415 6550001. The meeting i. D. Is 1464986060. Then press pound, and pound again. If you havent already done so, please dial star, 3, to line up to speak. A system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. Please wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. Do we have any members of the public to speak today . Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair ronen okay. Thank you so much. I just wanted to give one last chance to miss bittner to speak if she has any comments. Hello. This is indiscernible . I do want to speak. But i think that actually chair ronen covered it. However i feel in short i feel that i bring as someone that has worked with ihss and have worked with clients to the Public Authority governing board and you have my recommendation and i hope to be considered for this. Thank you so much. Clerk ronen, i believe that you are muted at this time. Chair ronen so sorry. Thank you so much, miss bittner. And i just want to thank you for all your years of advocacy and work in this arena. And im a big fan. So thank you for applying to this seat. And with that do any of my colleagues have any comments . Yeah, i do, thank you, chair ronen. I just wanted to thank all of the applicants for your commitments to serve our city and the ihss Public Authority. And just for all that you do to ensure that seniors and people with disabilities are able to continue to live with dignity and thrive in our city. You know, we know that the incredibly vulnerable communities are facing just great challenges right now, so i think that the work of the ihss Public Authority is more important than ever. So, thank you so much. And i also just wanted to really thank sascha who i have known for many years and worked with on campaigns for supporting seniors, people with disabilities, and also the care workers, the people who provide the care. So im so excited, yeah, to hear from sascha. And i have known Daisy Mcarthur for years. And a leader in seniors and homecare worker issues. So what a great group of folks stepping into this Important Role. Thank you so much. Chair ronen thank you. Supervisor stefani, do you have any comments . Supervisor stefani yes, thank you, chair ronen. I just want to echo what both you and supervisor mar said about miss bittner and knowing her work over the years. I want to also thank all of the candidates. This is such important work and its always so good to see such good people willing to serve San Francisco and to really give of yourselves to help others. So, thank you for being willing to serve and im very excited about being able to confirm these appointments and these applications. Chair ronen thank you so much. And i just wanted to add that during the time of covid that the work of being able to ensure that seniors and people with disabilities are allowed to stay in their homes and live and thrive in their homes is so important. And thats the preferred way almost all of the time but weve seen during this crisis that its also very important for health reasons. So the work of ihss is so important, now more than ever, and your willingness, all four of you, to serve in this capacity is so appreciated and so important because we need to make sure that this system and this institution continues to be strong and thrive and that all parts of it work well. So to do this, and to alex and daysing daisy and sascha and robin, we appreciate you and we appreciate your service. I would like to make an official motion to forward the appointments alexander madrid to seat nine and sascha bittner to seat 11, and Daisy Mcarthur to seat 12, and robin wilsonbeattle is it bettle . Or . Beattle. Chair ronen thank you. To seat 13. And to the full board with recommendation. Can we take a roll call vote. Clerk yes. On that motion [roll call] the motion passes without objection. Chair ronen thank you so much. Thanks again, everyone, and congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Chair ronen mr. Clerk, please read item number 2. Clerk yes, item 2 is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending september 6, 2021, and two members, terms ending september 4, 023, to the assessment appeals board number one. We have three seats and three occupants. Chair ronen thank you so much. And is miss robinson here . Im here. Clerk shes here. Chair ronen good morning. Nice to hear you and wondering if you had any comments for this committee . Yes, i have been on the board for a long time, probably the longest member there. And i have always gotten a great deal of satisfaction from lending my real estate skills to the city. And i have a background as a commercial real estate appraiser, which makes the board a very good fit for me. And i enjoy working with the people at the assessments appeal board, its been a very great experience. Chair ronen thank you for all of your years of service. We appreciate it and i just want to see if any of my colleagues have questions . I dont think so. Thank you so much. Thank you. Chair ronen and next we want to see if Elizabeth Zareh is here . Good morning, everyone. Elizabeth zareh here. Chair ronen hi, good morning. Do you have any comments to share with us . Sure. I am an attorney. I have been practicing law for the past 24 years and one of the areas which i work in is real estate. In addition to that i am a Real Estate Broker and so i bring in both the legal background and the real estate background to the commission and this will be a second term. Previously i worked as an alternate, served as an alternate in board three and now im trying to switch to board one. Chair ronen fantastic. Thank you so much. And i dont see any questions. I love to see where an alternate is moved to the main seat. So, thank you so much. Thank you. Chair ronen and is mr. Lee here, for alternate seat 7 . Yes, good morning. Chair ronen good morning. How are you . Great, how are you . Chair ronen great. Yes, thank you. Hello, supervisors, thank you for all of your hard work and taking the time on hearing from the potential appointees. So, yeah, my name is richard lee and have been enjoying my time working as a board member on the estimates appeal board. I believe that i would bring valuable expertise to the board through my daytoday work. I work in union square representing several commercial buildings, retail and office, and i have also had i had a background in residential, including rent control, some project management, and i feel that i would be a fair and analytical member to the board. I would continue to be diligent in my role here if i get reappointed. Im a short skip away, you know, to and from my day job, down to union square and back. So im accustomed to the route. I miss coming to city hall. I know that 2020 has been a very volatile year, not only for our lives, but revenue too, and how thats going to impact our cities and states. And nationwide, and just for the local board, yeah, its going to change how 2020, and 2021 and 2022 is going to look. So im willing to continue to lend my services to the board. And i know that its going to be a very different year. I know that the Tax Collector and the assessors office, were all gearing up for whats to come. So now i have seen a few recessions and this one coming up, yeah, i look forward to staying on and contributing. Thank you. Chair ronen thank you so much. I appreciate it. Seeing no questions, can we please open this up for Public Comment. Clerk yes, the members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment on this item should call 1 415 6550001. And the meeting i. D. Is 1464986060. Then press pound, and pound again. If you havent already done so, please dial star, 3, to line up to speak. A system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. Please wait until the system indicates that you have been unmuted and you may begin your comments. Mr. Coe, do we have any members of the public for Public Comment at this time . Madam chair, there are no callers in the queue. Chair ronen okay, thank you, and Public Comment is closed. I just want to thank you all for your service as mr. Lee said, that we anticipate were going to be very busy. And so we appreciate you spending your time and lending your expertise to the city in this voluntary role. Thank you. Any other comments from my colleagues . Supervisor mar i just wanted to thank the applicants for your willingness to serve on the assessment appeals board. Yeah, and the work of the board is going to be incredibly important. Looking ahead with the impacts of covid and the economic crisis, and the dramatic changes to how and where we live and work. So i think that having really experienced and fair and committed members of the assessment appeals board is really important. So thank you, all of you. Chair ronen thank you, supervisor mar. Supervisor stefani, did you want to mention anything . Supervisor stefani just a huge thank you for being willing to serve. Its amazing that theyre willing to give so much of themselves for this, because it takes a lot of time. So, thank you. Chair ronen so with that i will make a motion to forward the appointments of Diane Robinson to seat three, and Elizabeth Zareh to seat five, and richard lee to seat seven to the board with recommendations. Can we have a roll call . Clerk yes, on that motion [roll call] motion passes without objection. Chair ronen thank you so much, and thanks again to everyone. Congratulations. Mr. Clerk, please read item number 3. Clerk yes. Before i make that announcement i would like to let the members know whose items we have already acted upon that you need not to wait on the line. Thank you very much for attending. And item number 3 is a hearing to consider appointing one member, term ending september 4, 2023, to the assessment appeals board number 3. We have one seat and one applicant. Chair ronen thank you so much. And is mr. Jeffrey lee here . Mr. Clerk, is mr. Jeffrey lee on the line . Madam chair i was informed that we had been experiencing some technical issues, and perhaps he got bumped off. Chair ronen i see. Okay. Well, why dont we open this up for Public Comment then, so he has a chance to get back on. Mr. Clerk, can we please hear Public Comment. Clerk yes, the members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment on this item should call 1 415 6550001. And the meeting i. D. Is 1464986060. And then press pound, and pound again. If you havent already done so, dial star, 3, to line up to speak. A system prompt will indicate that you have raised your hand. Wait until the system indicates that you are unmuted and you can begin your comments. Do we have any Public Comments for item number 3 . Yes, i have one caller in the queue. Clerk hi is that you, mr. Lee . Caller yes, good morning, my apologies. Chairman ronen and members, i am, unfortunately, unable to get to the Microsoft Team but i can see you on sfgovtv, and i am happy to testify by telephone if that is acceptable. Chair ronen thats perfect. Thank you so much. Very creative. Go right ahead. Caller okay. Well, first of all, thank you for having the meeting this morning and inviting me to speak. So i am an applicant for assessment appeals board number 3, seat number 3. Under ordinance 39398. And my qualifications to serve on the assessment appeals board include 19 years of professional experience as a practicing attorney in california in 2001. And 27 years as a trial litigation attorney. I have appeared both in and observed the proceedings. Currently i live and work in San Francisco, where i have my own law firm. J. K. L. Law consulting. Previously i was a partner at g. C. A. Law partners, a silicon valleybased law firm. And i have served as a temporary judge on the superior court of california while i was practicing down there in santa clara. And i graduated from law school and worked for a federal judge and also spent five years with the department of justice and worked for an International Law firm and various firms here in the bay area. So i am very happy to serve and its considered an honor. And my goal for serving is to ensure to improve the public trust and confidence in our San Francisco government. I also believe that it is the assessment appeals board function as an historical and crucial part of californias Property Assessment and Quality Assurance program. So if appointed i would seek to serve and to live up to the highest standards of judicial and professional conduct and to make the board of supervisors and our county very proud. Thank you very much. Chair ronen thank you so much. And thanks for finding a way to get into this meeting. We appreciate it. Is there any other callers . Clerk madam chair, that completes the queue. Chair ronen okay, thank you very much. Any comments from my colleagues . Nope. Then i am happy to make a motion to forward the appointment of jeffrey lee to seat 3 to the board with recommendation. Can we please have a roll call vote. Clerk yes on that motion [roll call] ronen aye. The motion passes without objection. Chair ronen thank you so much. Is there any other items on this agenda . Clerk that completes the agenda for today. Chair ronen then the meeting is adjourned. Have a good day, everyone. Thank you. Bye. The time is 5 00 p. M. The ringing of cell phones, pagers, and similar devices can still have been virtually and is still prohibited. Please turn your devices off. Due to the covid19 Health Emergency and to protect commissioners, staff and members of the public, commission on the environments meeting room is closed. However, commissioners and Department Staff will be participating in the meeting remotely. 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