Blame, bleiman, and i am the president. We do ask that everybody turns off their cell phones or puts them on silent, including commissioners and staff. I want to thank sfgovtv and Media Services for sharing this meeting with the public, and well start with the roll call. [roll call] president bleiman all right. The first order of on the agenda is for general Public Comment. This is for comment on any item thats not on the regular agenda. Does anyone have anything to say . Seeing none, general Public Comment is closed. Number 2 is the approval of the Meeting Minutes for november 19, 2019 and december 3, 2019. Ill raise a motion to approve. Second. President bleiman is there any Public Comment on the approval of the Meeting Minutes . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. [roll call] president bleiman all right. And we do have one proposed change to the schedule tonight. We do have one Law Enforcement member that has a meeting, a lieutenant, so were asking that we move item 5c, the beauty bar item, to now, but we will need a motion to do so. I move. Second. President bleiman is there any Public Comment on the rearrangement of our agenda . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. [ro [roll call] president bleiman all right. It is so moved. If we could have acting director davido please introduce this item. The first permit on tonights agenda is for an amendment to the place of Entertainment Permit for beauty bar, located at 2299 mission street. Beauty bar has held an active p. O. E. Since 1998, which was issued by the Police Department. Recently, there was an incident outside the location that prompted the sfpd and the venue staff to review the security plan. Due to the fact that the Police Department issued the permit so long ago, the owner did not have a security plan on file. Following the incident, e. C. Staff and sfpd mission station met with the owner and general manager about their operations and security. The owner and g. M. Have been very responsive to our requests and recommendations, and they are making every effort to be safe and in compliance. So what i have outlined here is its in section 5. Beauty bars the last permit section. Were just skipping ahead, and what youll see is their existing p. O. E. Permit, the police permit. So the recommendation of what has happened here is on the memo that ive written for you is a list of their current permit conditions and a copy of their existing permit. So what we are recommending president bleiman so you can be clear yes, i can be clear. President bleiman what we are looking at, the piece of paper that has red writing on it, which should be right next to the blue divider, or the divider, so the red are the old the old permit conditions . This is the original permit that i did not type out which was all covered by statute, which is the original permit thats in the file. President bleiman great. I saw every flipping. So the recommendation is that we eliminate all of the existing permit conditions except for number 1e, which is highlighted in yellow, and that we replace all of the existing permit conditions with the staff recommended conditions on the very last page of the memo. This has been discussed with the owners and mission station, and everybody is in agreement with where were standing moving forward. President bleiman all right. So just give a chance for the commissioners to find this. Yep. We have an extra copy. President bleiman we can use this page. Let me just give you mine. I know you requested a copy of the memo or the permit. The memo, please. I can pass it back. Okay. Great, great, great. Questions for staff. You mentioned the highlighted section on e. Youre wanting to retain that. That is correct. But i dont see any proposed conditions. So on the last page, proposed conditions. So were going to add e to your proposed conditions. Thank you. President bleiman yeah. Just give a chance for them to catch up. So while were reading through that, i think i would like to hear from the lieutenant whos here and so that we can send him on his way. Thank you. Good evening, mr. President , Vice President , and commissioners. My name is chris canning. Im a lieutenant at Mission Police station. Ive been assigned there as a lieutenant over two years. And i wanted to put on the record what a positive experience this was. This is an example of an incident that occurred in an area where there was an establishment for evening entertainment that led to the response of the Police Department, and throughout the course of our investigation, we had the occasion to contact and work and speak with the owners and management of the establishment, and i wanted to let the commission know that we appreciate the assistance of your staff, the executive director, and the assistant directive director. We found this was a very positive assistant executive director. We found this was a very positive experience to work with the owner of the establishment to find a solution that we feel is going to maintain a continual working relationship, and so i wanted to thank the commission, the staff, as well, for this positive experience. I think this was a good example of the Police Department and owners and management working together to create a plan of sorts to identify things that may need to be reviewed and create a path for working together moving forward. So that for that, i thank you. I can take any questions if you have any, but i dont want to deal too much with the specifics of the investigation, but i can talk generally about the investigation that we had beauty bar ownership and management. Hi. Thanks for coming in. Was the Business Owner able to provide you with a security plan that you were agreeable to . Absolutely. And as to the collaborative part that i spoke about, we felt that this was a very good experience. There was a timeline that staff put in place. It didnt feel rushed, but it felt it was a positive step in a direction moving forward. Theyve always been very cooperative in any past experiences that weve had in and about their establishment, and so this was another example, of businesses and the Police Department working together to ensure the business can succeed and we can provide the level of supervision nez for them necessary for them to have a successful business. Lieutenant canning, nice to see you. Its good to have somebody willing to come down and speak to us. Thank you. Any other concerns you think we should be aware of . None at all. Awesome. Thank you very much. Thank you, commissioner. President bleiman yes, thank you so much for coming down. I know you have to run. I dont have any other questions. Its great to see everybody working together. Its awesome and justifies what were seeing here. Thank you. Thank you, mr. President. Good night. President bleiman all right. I think i think just for the sake of amending these, that i would like to talk to the permit holder and the manager, if you guys want to step up. I just have some questions. Is there anything that you wanted to say first . Do you have anything prepared . You dont have to. No. I agree president bleiman can you state your name, please. Yeah. The meeting that we had president bleiman im sorry. State your name, please. Oh, aaron burhz. The meeting we had was great, and were absolutely capable of following all the new rules or whatever, so yeah. Sorry. Little nervous. Amendments, yes. President bleiman absolutely. Does anyone have any questions . Yeah. So i would just say i dont have any specific questions, but i would just say so again, amending this permit, i think, is really important, especially if you read the previous conditions that you had which maybe dont hold up to draconian. President bleiman which maybe dont hold up to our standards in 2019. But it sounds like you guys are in it to win it. Its follow up on these things. You can expect that we will definitely be checking in. I do understand that block very well, and i do understand that things have changed on that block recently, and different elements have moved in, and things maybe have gotten a little more unsafe for a brief period of time, and so i do think these we do have some solid plans that are going to keep it safe for our customers. President bleiman yeah. We just want to make sure that theres follow through. It sounds like you guys have done this. Another thing to note, theres a lot of different tools that we have as a commission. This one, amending, we specifically chose because you guys were so forthcoming with the police. I want to show everyone that if we Work Together, we can find solutions, rather than finding ways to work with each other. So i appreciate that, and thank you, and i dont have anything else. You guys can have a seat. Okay. Thank you. So is there any Public Comment on this topic specifically . All right. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed, and we can discuss the proposed conditions. I was going to make a motion to accept the staff recommendation to delete all of the existing permit conditions except number 1e and adopt the nine proposed conditions, and im happy to read them if needed, but thats my motion. President bleiman i think we should read them into the record, whether its you or Deputy Director. So it would delete all of the existing permit conditions except for the one requiring at least one manager and a sound technician to be onsite of all hours of d. J. Or Live Entertainment. And then, the nine new proposed conditions, one is that a monthly Event Calendar be sent to sfpd and mission station and the Entertainment Commission at the beginning of each month. Occupancy shall not exceed 49 people per San Francisco fire department. Property shall have three cameras installed on the exterior of the premises and two interior cameras on the interior of the premises. Security shall perform pat downs and bag checks on patrons upon entry and reentry into the promises. Management shall keep a list of patrons going into the premises. Shall utilize a metal did etec and scanner. Theyre fairly standard. Can i ask a question, and this might be for staff. Im just curious, regarding condition number 4, why are we exclusively directing security to be lead trained . Because lead trained is about the security dispensing of alcohol. So im wondering why were requiring security to be president bleiman would it be guard card . Maybe, its a typo. Is it guard card . Well, i said they all must be lead train. The guard cards there. Im fine with that. That can be amended oh, no, i dont mind it, im just thinking especially since we have the owner here, it might open up the opportunity because if were thinking about training, it might as well be the bar staff. It is a Good Neighbor policy, as well. Is it . Yes. I believe you. Having just completed my lead training online, i actually found it to be worthwhile. Oh, no, im cool. If its in the Good Neighbor either way, im covered. President bleiman okay. So the motion is to ill second it. President bleiman okay. So once again, the motion is to amend the conditions except for 1e and including the proposed conditions from staff, which were read into record, and it has been seconded. [roll call] president bleiman your permit has been amended. Thank you for coming in. Please follow up with the Deputy Director at your earliest convenience just for next steps, and again, thank you, lieutenant. I know you have to run. Appreciate it. President , can i ask a question of staff . President bleiman sure. So its it was impressive to read these conditions from 2002 . Do you have a sense of how many of our existing venues have a permit with such outdated language in it . Theres a decent amount that have outdated language, however none of these extent. There were a lot of permit conditions for one dated this long ago. So one, for a Police Department permit, they may have a couple that read wonky compared to what our permits read now. Do you know why beauty bar ended up with such is it was such an old permit that we didnt obtain the file, so that didnt make the transfer over. Somehow we had an electronic version of the permit but no physical version with a list of the conditions. All right. Thank you. President bleiman all right. Now were back to our regular agenda order, and i believe were on number 3, am i correct . So approval of minutes. Oh, agenda it goes straight yeah, okay. The next item on the agenda is number 3, which is a report from Deputy Director, also acting director azevedo today. Okay. So its been a month since weve met and talked about enforcement, so its a fairly thick report here, so ive highlighted on some items to share. Highlights on page 4, i have a 26 mix. I have spoke with management, and we are bringing them in in january to sit down and talk with director weiland and myself about the ongoing sound complaints. Its been determined that this is not from inside the venue but patron noise outside, and we plan to figure out a resolution and make this problem be solved soon. Going down to oracle park, there was dream force, correct . Dream force that just happened, and so Fleetwood Mac played, and we received six complaints, and letting you know that we forwarded the complaints and they will let you know how they handled it. Item 4, this is about record lounge. Theres also been complaints about repetitive singing, and so weve found that theres a restaurant that after hours is letting their staff do karaoke. Were letting you know that were getting to the bottom of it. Were getting the pizza place in compliance, and ive spoken to the restaurant staff, letting them know the restaurant owner, letting them know that they have to have a permit, even if its just staff singing at 2 00 in the morning. An update, on page cafe, when this was submitted, we did issue a notice of violation on november 16 for being out of compliance with their sound limit on saturday, the 14. Revolution cafe owner is coming in to speak with me on thursday, so we are hoping to discuss their programming and hopefully make the complaints go away. Page 14, youll see that ive highlighted trade market and copyright. We are inspector fiorentino did an inspection, and they were violating at 11 30. Further down the page, color block, we also issued a citation for this venue. This is a location that has applied for an l. L. P. Theyre required to apply for onetime permits in the interim, but theyve had an event and told about meeting requirements for onetime events. They had a d. J. That did not have a onetime event. Ill note that color block has been very good about applying for onetimes and has been consistent with that since that violation was issued. I highlighted 906 location. Th this location applied for a permit but it was denied. In turn, we ended up denying a onetime event permit that they applied for. They had entertainment that night even though it was denied, and so we did issue a citation for that. Page 17, i just highlighted color block to tell you that theyve been being good actors since citation, and thats all that ive highlighted, and im happy to answer any questions that you might have. I just i notice the one dated december 1, bottom of the hill, first night, moved into new home adjacent to bottom of hill, and all the walls in the basement keep shaking. Cannot sleep because of the sound. Is this a new or old new neighbor. New neighbor. So we are working on that. So we dont have any new places. Several other i notice theres several other calls about bottom of the hill, but i assume its just from the same individual. Thats correct. And bottom of the hill is working on their sound. And its anonymous, their complaints, so were unable to contact the neighbor who is making the complaints at this time. Who chose to move in next to an active barclub. Rock and roll. Yes. I dont really have any comment other than that. Okay. I just was noticing, and i wonder why people move in next to bars and then complain about it. President bleiman can you tell us more about the revolution cafe and what happened over there . I know you just went over it. Yeah. Revolution cafe has no sound abatement, and so theyre not really really equipped to hold sound, and their programming has been more and more geared towards d. J. S with heavy bass and bands with full drum kits. So my visit on thursday is to revisit the sound limit, which is 70 d. B. A. , which is very, very low, and discuss a plan of action for how they might mitigation future complaints. President bleiman all right. Anymore questions . Thank you very much for that report. Is there any Public Comment on the Deputy Directors report . Seeing none, that agenda item is closed. The next item agenda is number 4, which is discussion and possible action to adopt written comments and recommendations to be submitted by the executive director of the Planning Department and or department of building inspection regarding noise issues for proposed residential and or hotelmotel projects per chapter 116 of the administrative codes, and im going to ask Senior Inspector roberts to introduce this project. Thank you, president bleiman, for reading that. Good evening, commissioners. The proposed project would demolish an existing twostory residential building and construction a 12story Tourist Hotel with approximately 165 guest rooms. Representatives of the project sponsor have conducted outreach with nearby places of entertainment as shown in your file have received no opposition that were aware of. A sound study that was measured and calculated multiple sound sources, including sound from each place of entertainment. The sound study recommended sound rated windows at various building facades in order to achieve noise level criteria. Entertainment Commission Staff reviewed the project documents, and we are recommending the following. Approval with standard conditions for chapter 116, residential projects, and the following additional conditions. 1, the project is to incorporate all recommended facade s. T. C. Ratings as in the environmental noise study as shown in your file. If the design of the project changes, the sound study shall be amended accordingly, and the project is required to resubmit design documents to the Entertainment Commission for review before coordinating updated recommendations. And here to present on behalf of the project sponsor and answer any questions that you may have is sandra chow, senior project architect of stanton architecture. Hi. Good evening, president bleiman and members of the Entertainment Commission. My name is sandra chow. Im a senior project architect with stanton architecture. Im here to present some slides about the project and answer any questions that you may have. The project is located on sutter between stockton and powell street downtowns. Its a block from union square and nearby hotels such as the hampton, the marriott, and the sir francis drake. This makes it the prime location for our project, which were proposing to demolish an existing twostory residential and office and construct a hotel with 165 guest rooms. The building programming will include a hotel lobby with bar and retail at the ground level and publicly accessible open space on the rooftop. Levels 2 through 12 will have 15 guest rooms per room, with windows oriented to sutter street and toward the side property lines. The rooms themselves are small, a little less than 250 square foot each other average, but since the project is a select Service Hotel product in an active area, we dont anticipate the guests to spend a significant amount of time in their rooms. Were currently working with the Planning Department on finalizing the end design of the building, so thats why the design that you see in front of you on the screen is slightly different than what you have in your package. But we have recently submitted our second round city, and they have limited comments, so i dont see too much problem moving forward. The project will still meet the requirements of the sutterkearney historic guidelines and will continue the plane of the existing street facade, the storefront at the ground level will provide the main entries into the hotel lobby and the retail, and therell also be a secondary egress to the side alley of the building, as well. Once the project is in title, well bring on things such as building designers, and well also continue working with the acoust acoustical engineers who will provide the studies. We werent surprised that the p. O. E. , noise, did not significantly add to the ambient noise at night. Additionally, weve been working at frost street lighthouse, and we havent received any opposition to date, but both ross and i are here to answer any questions that you might have about the project. President bleiman have a questi i have a question. Theres a bar at the ground level. Is this bar thats being built, is it going to be the owners of the hotel or theyre going to bring in a management crew to run the hotel . Its going to be the latter. Theyre looking for it to be a brand, but its yet to be selected. President bleiman so the bar area, the coolest trend is to have a d. J. Always in the bar. So the windows that you have in the front, are they going to be enough to keep sound from leaking out versus obviously, the other clubs are kind of far away. I dont think youre going to impact too much, unless the people on the higher floors, but i think the closest club maybe is 11 propaganda, but thats just around the corner. If you put in a bar, will it be an issue . Do you have the proper rating of the windows going out . Well have to check with our acoustical engineering. We dont have the ground level set yet. I think were envisioning this to be a pretty luxurious hotel. President bleiman youve been to the w hotel, right . Yes. President bleiman and you know their lobby . Yes. President bleiman it could be as loud as that, or it could be just ambience. You know, the better the insulation, you know, the better the sound, so im just thinking if you had that in mind. We havent thought about that, but we will bring that up with our acoustic consultant. President bleiman and theres no function rooms in this hotel, is there . No. President bleiman okay. Thank you very much for presenting. It does seem like the permit holders are pretty far away from you. We thank you for coming in. We would encourage you to upyo up your s. T. C. Rating as much as you can so you can coexist. Thank you. President bleiman thank you. And then, we will take a vote on putting forward these recommendations to the to the Planning Commission if im not if i am correct. But first, well see if theres any Public Comment on this agenda item. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. And do we have a motion to put forward the staff recommendations . Approve. Second. [roll call] president bleiman all right. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Moving along to the next agenda item, it is number 5, which is hearing and possible action for permits under the jurisdiction of the Entertainment Commission, and weve already handled 5c, so ill cross that one out. Ill let acting director azevedo present the other two. Thank you. The next item is change of permit and ownership for el toro, located at 1740 el toro avenue. The new owners intend to keep the same programming as the previous owner of t. The applicants held a Community Meeting to discuss their permit application, where they received support from the portola neighbor association. They also collected 75 letters of support, including four tenants in the neighboring residential building. They received no opposition. Here to tell you more are owners juan burgos and no, i dont know your name is owner juan burgos. Hello. Good evening. Yeah. As miss kaitlyn stated right now, keep it going, we had a meet and be merry the other day in the community, and just want to keep el toro going as is. I started going to el toro 20 years ago, and my my manager here, hes promoted el toro. He brought different bands, groups, stuff like that, to the previous el toro to the previous owner, jorge, sr. , and jorge, jr. , and keep working with owners of the past, so thats what we have planned. Okay. So can you tell me more about as running an operation like this . I mean, have you been in this kind of business before . Yes. I currently have a bar in hayward, a bar and night club in hayward. Ive been there four years. Its at 21859 mission boulevard in hayward. I like that plug. In case you want to go to hayward. Any special nights to attend . Theyre only open friday and saturday nights. Okay. Yeah, friday and saturday. And then, on your manager and youve been working at the place for a while . Since 2006. 2006 . 2006. Youve been running all the security, sound, everything . Well, mostly, the big name bands we have there on mondays, saturdays, but ive been there since 2006. Before that, i was a musician, so since 1992, ive been performing at el toro. Okay. And you guys have inhouse security . Correct. Okay. So its a company. Its a company . Yeah. You pay the company you dont pay the company, you pay the employees . Yeah, a company. Well, theres no complaints. I dont see any issues, so i guess youve been running it pretty well. We try. Since my colleague was just talking about security, how do you staff your security . We bring our security guy, juan hes out of town, but he brings us on a busy night, six guards. He brings us one at 6 00, and the rest come in at 9 30, 10 00. And whats your occupancy . 250. Okay. Great. Thank you. Questions . I dont have any questions, so thank you very much for coming in. Appreciate it. Wish you continued success. Thank you. Nice to see a nice to see a place continue in the same vein, in the same neighborhood for so long. Is there any Public Comment on this agenda item . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Did i see staff recommendations on this one . Yeah. Its the same memo that had the other staff recommendations . So do we have a motion to approve . Motion to approve the with staff recommendation, approval with the Good Neighbor policy, existing internal sound limit, and the additional condition that the permit holder is that send monthly calendar of events to sfpd bayview station. I second. [roll call] okay. So the final permit on tonights agenda is for a limited Live Performance permit for el trebol [inaudible] but since then, they have not they have suspended all entertainment until tonights hearing to determine if they were granted the l. L. P. Permit. Please note that the applicant previously was having entertainment until 2 00 a. M. , however, their Zoning District only allows for an l. L. P. Unless they go through a conditional use authorization with the Planning Department, and they are aware and have agreed to only have Live Entertainment until 10 00 p. M. The owner distributed 200 fliers in english and spanish. There was one person that submitted a letter of opposition, and that is included in the file. Mission station did approve the file, but had some concerns about safety and security. As such, they have included the conditions below. None of them required discipline, but there is to ensure responsible Safety Practices Going Forward, and here to tell you more is owner francisco ramos. Hi. Hello. My here is jose gonzales. Im here to assist mr. Ramos with translating. Hi. I dont speak so good english, and i want to make sure i get it right so i dont do nothing wrong here, so thank you. [speaking spanish language] mr. Ramos has been involved in the community for the last 38 to 40 years. Hes been involved in many of the taquerias, managing them, running them. Hes pretty well known in the district and respected. Would you mind asking him can you just tell us a little bit about what kind of entertainment youre hoping to host Going Forward and whether or not youll be bringing in promoters and what kind of sound system you have. Those are going to be the questions we have. Yeah. He only plans to have a d. J. , just to play the music that the clients like. He has no intentions whatsoever of bringing in any outside entertainment. Okay. And can he tell us a little bit about the sound system that the d. J. Is playing off of . Not really, no, because the d. J. S, they put so he does have one d. J. Box, and its an old system, and it does have speakers within, but when the d. J. Comes in, they usually bring their own system, so hes not too knowledgeable as far as what kind of systems they have. Maybe about four speakers. So basically, he allows the d. J. Or whatever the band to bring in well, theres no band, just a d. J. Okay. So does he have any plans to have his own system there, because when you bring in okay. Go ahead yeah, he does plan to bring in a d. J. He does have a system thats very old. Its about the size of this system. The area that you has for the that he has for the d. J. Is very small. Its about four by five. Yeah. Thats not the problem. The problem is when an outside person brings in equipment, they dont really understand the outside level that your building can hold the sound. So he says that hell go ahead whatever condition they have, hell sit with them, speak with the d. J. S, and let them know what the criteria is. Well, the deal is if you want to limit the complaints or citations, you know, it would be interesting if he would invest in that. Or he has to have a sound meter to at least whatever the inspector sets you at, if youre going to go over that, youre going to get a ticket. So what alternative he says, he can go ahead and use the existing system, which has i believe passed a sound limiting test. So what he can do is use not any outside d. J. S whatsoever, use the existing system until he decides if he wants to invest in a new system, and then have it approved. Yeah. If its already been approved, have the d. J. Bring his computer, and he can play, and you should be okay. Im just giving you the future around what issues can happen. And im just curious, how did he get into this business of owning this bar . Because i was working in the mission for years. I was working in the taquerias. And he had a bar. And im management to him. And then, i think i do well, he did very well. And now, i have the same opportunity. I have the hub for business plus the bar now, and he thinks its good. Im never drinking, i never do anything, but i think the bar is a good thing. People are happy, and they like it in the mission area. And the other bars that you ran had entertainment, as well . No, this is the first one. Okay. And so youre familiar with other bars that do have entertainment and issues that they may have with patrons and security . Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, of course, yeah. And then, the d. J. S that youre bringing in, how do you find these d. J. S . Okay. I have two, but they contact us, and they say oh, im working in wherever, and then, we try if people dont like it, they dont like it because some people dont listen. I have two guys only that ive had for many years. I control them. I tell them if i dont like this, they dont do it. So you control your own d. J. S and the music format . Yes, of course. And you understand this permit is only until 10 00 . Yes. Unfortunately, yeah. If everybody is having a good time, and its 10 00, youre going to have to shut it down. You know, the problem is the mexican community, the latino community, theyre but its okay. I will respect the rules and will check with you guys. I dont want to have any problems with you guys, either. I want to have a successful business over there. Okay. Thank you. I did have we have some more questions. Hello. Thanks for coming in. Just want to make sure that part of the conditions of the Good Neighbor policy, that you are responsible for maintaining outside of your business within 100 feet to be clean and sanitary every day. You understand that . I do. And whats your plan for doing that . Whats your plan for keeping it clean and sanitary . So at the end of every night, he says that he has a cleanup crew, and he can go ahead and direct them he doesnt know if they go 100 feet out, but hell direct the area. Okay. So hell direct the staff yeah. They go right out front, but hell just direct them to go further out. Okay. Thank you. I just want to acknowledge the fact that you have been doing business in the mission for over four decades, and you, yourself, are an institution, so im really happy to hear that you have multiple businesses at this point. El farrolitos is one of my favorite places. Im engineer for most of my career. I came to the United States because i have an opportunity for work. Im an electroengineer, but salvador gave me an opportunity washing dishing for 2 an hour. I started working with him. The second week, he offers me a career. Six years later, im the manager for everything. Im going to speak english, but its hard for me sometimes to understand very well. But i try to do my best in the places. El farrolito, do you know Puerta Vallarta . Yes. Thats one of our places, too. One of the things that i want to say on this is the Entertainment Commission, my colleagues, we want to support you on the opening of these bars. I know that you are actually the real stakeholder that wants to see the night life and entertainment and all the Small Businesses in the 24th Street Mission corridor to succeed, so i just want to kind of reiterate that we are here to support you in this process and get you into compliance. Theres a list of staff recommendations here. I just wanted to confirm that they have been reviewed with you around the Good Neighbor policy and also these conditions that were recommended by the San Francisco p. D. Mission station, is that correct . Yes, it is. Yeah, we discussed them. Hes in agreement. Yeah. I just wanted to bring up one of those specifically, and i just want to make sure that he understands what it is, which is number 6. The permit holder is required to have an i. D. Scanner, and i think some people think its if the i. D. Scanner is good or not, but in this case, the i. D. Scanner captures all the i. D. Information of every person walks into a bar and holds it in a data bank. I just want to know if that might impact his business to have everybody to enter a database to enter. Yeah, let me explain that part to him. Yeah. [inaudible] i thought it was just validating an i. D. Just so you know, my personal feeling, i. D. Scanners, they should only be used in extreme situations, and were not there yet, but i just want to hear his opinions if he thinks it may hurt his business to have everybody enter their information. So mr. Ramos, he says he has no choice. If thats a condition, he has to follow it, but hes not sure his clients are going to follow this. We may be able to, once he sits down, to clean that up. I think well see how we fall on that. I just wanted to see how he fell on that topic. You mentioned earlier, the lead training. I have other clients that deal with lead training. Okay. And then, i have a couple other things. I know, mr. Ramos, youre a staple in the community. I have some bars in the commission myself, and we some bars in the mission myself, and we value you in the community. You had a d. J. , you didnt do anything theres much worse things to do than have a d. J. , but i just want to make sure he understands what compliance means. Were going to be checking your security, and i think some concerns from police and staff havent necessarily been around sound so much as security concerns, so incidents that cause people to be injured or things like that. Hes going to talk to his managers about that and beef up security and make sure theyre properly trained. Part of that compliance would be following these security procedures, and were going to be checking specifically to make sure theyre being followed at all times, and our inspectors are kind of relentless in this case, so i just want to make sure he understands that were always checking on everyone, and yeah. And then yeah, so thats a big thing. And the other thing is making sure that sound is not an issue Going Forward, and it sounds like its not the main issue, just that were going to be but i also want to explain that were great partners, and we want to Work Together as opposed to against each other. So i dont think theres anymore questions here. You guys can have a seat, and we can discuss this. So first of all, is there any Public Comment on this jaeagen item . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. I do have concerns about the security i. D. Scanner language. I have a proposal. Okay. What i would like to propose, once everyones kind of had their comments is we approve the conditions as written, but regarding condition number 6, it remains as states with the exception that i. D. Scanners shall be a condition that works toward the age and validity of the i. D. Being presented. That appeases me. And what im saying is there is no data storage. Which is not what im saying, but thats what occurs. Yeah. I just feel like a neighborhood bar with a d. J. Is not necessarily like, when we say you need to be winding down, people and so on well, i think that the police were recommending that given historical things that have happened in there that have caused them to be a little more concerned about this. And if i can make a suggestion, perhaps down the road, with some good behavior, we can relook at these issues because we do have some history here that we might want to be mindful of . Yeah. I think generally, i appreciate the sfpd and the Mission Stations concern for security. I just and i think that, you know, when theres been a history in the venue
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