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Particular category. What im saying is for all three of those incidents because they are all linked, i would consider that one incident, because when you take the dpa complaint, when you take a lawsuit and take the use of force and all that is combined into one thats going to be one event. If we are seeing repeats of that event in other circumstances, im going to go ahead and my interest is going to be piqued into that officer. With me going out and reviewing it and say i dont initiate an intervention at this moment doesnt mean im closing it out and not paying attention. Next quarter im going to go back and review. And thats what goes on. I review the previous reporting period and the previous alerts. So if i see a pattern where within one year i start seeing a pattern thats starting to develop, i can go ahead and initiate an intervention at that time. So the example you gave with the three different criteria you counted one incident, those three dont have to be related, right . Meaning i guess my concern is you are calling it one incident and theres three sort of violations but those three violations can be on different days and not related to the same sort of facts, right . The incidents that were brought into this one report or this one alert thats something i would take differently than one event causing three different indicators. But you still consider it one incident right . For this particular one, the one we are discussing, yes all three i would consider one. But if an officer has a dpa complaint for one incident, a lawsuit for another one a use of force for another one, i would weigh those separately. They wouldnt be considered one incident in that matter. What does intervention consist of . My concern is i would rather have an intervention and the officer being mentored when they have five plus indicators versus someone who doesnt go to court. So when i send out these alerts its not only for the officer to know that we are watching and that he or she has hit the threshold but its also for the sergeant of that officer to know that, okay, this officer here, whether or not you are aware of it or not he has crossed that threshold for an e. I. S. Alert so it notifies both parties and i have a pretty Good Relationship with most supervisors where i can give them a call and theyll know my concern. And if that sergeant wants to tell me we can go out and start intervention thats fine. But if im just reaching out and i just go inquire and give that sergeant a headsup saying hey look, im concerned about your person, not necessarily to the point of an intervention but im going to be watching him or her and i would like you to do the same. Ive done that numerous times. What does an intervention consist of . It depends on the violation. So in this particular case, if theres an issue with any type of, lets say not going to mandatory training, whatever it would take to help that officer get straightened out, we would do. If it comes to a point where the officer is disrespectful to victims or to suspects thats where the communication comes in. We would cater whatever training we have to them and go to the academy and see whatever it is we had to do to get this officer back to where we want him or her. Other issue is on page 12 where you have sort of the divisions and sort of each area broken up. Because i dont think this is an accurate reflection of whats happening at each station. Because if the incidents follow the officer you know, i was concerned that we have nine incidents nine use of force incidents at the airport. But thats not true entirely because it doesnt capture the actual airport or the instances where use of force happened at the airport. It could be one officer that was transferred from Mission Statement to the airport and theres all nine incidents right. I do understand what you are talking about. So thats when the individual alerts pop up in the computer system. Thats when i start taking a look as far as what that detail was for that officer for that day what assignment that officer was doing that day. I mean, if an officer was assigned to mission for five out of the six and then goes to the airport, you are correct that alert would follow that officer over to the airport. You would agree this flowchart is deceiving because it doesnt accurately reflect indicators by unit because its not by unit, its by officer. Its by numbers, thats correct. Also on page 13, is this another situation where it follows the officers . So meaning the 42 alerts by station is it following the officer or is it following the station. Im sorry. Page 13. Can you repeat your question, commissioner . Im also wondering whether or not this data that you have based on each station is based on the actual station or if its based on the officer like you do on page 12. When we run the report, wherever that officer is, thats where this alert hits. So if, say this officer gets into the station, gets three out of four indicators and that officer happens to transfer to the other station the alert would go onto bayview station. It follows the officer. It doesnt go out and say, we are not going to say it stays over at taravel. If they are assigned to bayview station thats where the alert would be generated from. I think what the commissioner is trying so ask is if you look at this document, is this reflecting that time period, those alerts and indicators are these reflecting what happened at those stations in that time period . Or could this be indicators following officers . It could be indicators following officers. Can you explain to us how that would track . That confuses me. Thats the problem with page 12 and 13, they are defective because it looks it would look like its based on the actual station when these numbers arent based on the station, they are based on officers. Thats correct. Thats a problem. If you have any chart based on where the officer was at the time of the violation . I dont have one for this reporting period. I think that should be added to the next quarter presentation thats done on e. I. S. Because thats important because these numbers although they are beautifully put into a chart they arent actually reflective or accurate of whats happening at each unit. I do want the numbers on the page 3 of the numbers that come into you and which ones you are passing through to the supervisor and which ones you are closing out. Okay. Director henderson . Thank you. I was just going to say the stuff weve been working on for a while both myself and with commissioner dejesus who isnt here, but one of the things that has been really exciting and i think we are talking about today is the benchmark Analytics Group and the stuff theyve been doing exactly in this area in terms of best practices. And im only bringing that up because i think it speaks to the shortfalls and the gaps and the kind of data that we are seeing now, and the path practices and the problems weve been having with the university of chicago. And weve been talking about trying to find the best method to have more accurate correlation between actual behavior and predictive interruptions of behavior and training and stuff. So the stuff that ive seen preliminary has been really exciting from an objective analysis perspective. And an emphasis on the analysis because its more than just the Data Collection its analysis, which i think is really important for us to be able to do this job well. I know theyve been meeting with the department, which is exciting, so at some point, im sure that you will be making a decision about how he wants to continue those meetings or present whatever. But i thought their presentation was, about what they do and how it works, independently from other agencies was phenomenal. And ive seen a lot of predictive type of analytics. Which is the best one that ive seen so far. I wish commissioner dejesus were here to talk about it because i know she was excited about the stuff weve heard from preliminary basis as well. And so im just talking here at this point because i know it speaks to many of the concerns that you were just raising, commissioner elias about the subjective interpretation or the subjective analysis of these numbers which doesnt mean that they are wrong or right but they are subjective without having analysis that can be more transparent and shared internally and externally, based on a good system that i thought that we were trying to get from the university of chicago that didnt quite work out for whatever reason. So anyway, i just wanted to say that. So commissioner hamasaki first. Just director henderson just answered my question but i remember when we last talked about this, some of these same issues and concerns had been raised. I think the core and the heart of this is great. Its a proactive step to try to get out in front of problematic or potentially problematic behavior before it escalates to something where it causes real trouble. But im glad to hear that director henderson and it sounds like commissioner dejesus have been following up on this. Because and no question on you and the job you are doing it sounds like youve been putting a lot of work into this. But i think i would like to see perhaps the program from benchmark analytics if its not a program we want, maybe we can learn from it and implement something similar on our own or find ways to increase we want people to look at this and say wow, i feel great about this, this is keeping our streets and our officers safe and out of trouble. So thank you for all your work. I look forward to hearing about the progress with director henderson and commissioner dejesus as well as with the chief has been part of in this area. Scott. Thank you. We are director hendersons comments, we are exploring other technologies, and actually we have a meeting tomorrow to follow up on that so we will keep the Commission Posted on that. I also want to say too regardless of the technology, there is a Human Element to this. And there has to be. Because this is an Early Intervention alert system. And despite the algorithm that you use at some point somebody has to dig into the alerts and determine whats going on. And ill follow up with your question, commissioner elias about your patterns and your question wasnt about patterns but i think commissioner hirsch and you had similar questions about the subjective part of this. Right. And i can tell you because ive done thousands of these in my prior life in los angeles, you really have to dig into them and look for patterns and concerns. For instance, if you have use of forces that are being triggered by detentions that are questionable, that would be at risk behavior. The one thing that wasnt said here that i want to add is that we dont consider counseling informal intervention. Am i correct on that . Thats correct. So theres a lot of counseling thats done that is not considered intervention. Ive mentioned this in the past in front of the commission, we need to rethink that. Because counseling is a form of intervention. And you dont necessarily have to go to training or Technical Training and all that. A lot of times these things can be snuffed out by counseling. And we do a lot of it. I think last year we had 102 counseling sessions. The year before that it was a little bit higher than that. We dont consider those interventions. Yeah, those numbers need to be presented because when we are looking at a situation when we go from 175 to 0 thats a problem without any explanation as to we are not intervening, we are not counseling, what is actually happening. I cant believe all 175 are all false or not worthy of or merit some sort of intervention whether it be counseling or whatever it is you want to do. Absolutely. Understood. I think we can easily get that data for you. And i know we had it for last year and the year before, but its not considered a formal intervention so they are not counted in these reports but it is happening. So i want to point that out and we need to think of that as we rethink the analytics piece of it. He know a lot of this was negotiated. So we had to consider that too. That would be helpful. I think reporting the counseling whatever you call it, you can just call it counseling, it would still be good for us to know that. I do share the concern about the subjective nature of the review. Its opaque to me. I cant tell how you are making decisions or how the stations are making decisions. And you may be doing exactly what the Department Needs you to be doing. Its hard for us on the outside to know that. And if you can be doing a better job at it or theres more of a protocol that could be in place then we auto to look at that. But i appreciate the work and i appreciate your presentation. Thank you. I hope its not lost on all of us that this is still a big step forward from the stuff weve done in the past, that we were really focused on shaking the tree even though it wasnt bearing us fruit, even though we are focusing on inconsistencies on the data we want see, i think that system is going to serve us well when we come up with system to replace what we are doing in the past. Not because we werent trying to get it done but because we were trying to work with the old agency that wasnt giving us the Data Collection the Data Analysis and the data sharing those three components that have to be a part of any Early Intervention system. So, anyway. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else from you chief . That concludes my report. Thank you. Next item, please. Line item 1b, directors report. Report on dpa activities and announcements. It will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. Discussion will be limited to deciding whether to calendar any items for future meetings. Thank you director henderson. Thank you. So we are at 590 cases have been opened so far this year. We were at 511 this time last year. In terms of cases closed, we are at 490, which is higher than last year. This time last year we were at 454 indicates cases that were closed. We have 406 pending cases, which is double, almost double the amount that we had pending this time last year. In terms of cases sustained, we are at 39 sustained cases so far this year versus 36 the same time last year. The cases that are past the 270day measurement, which is our own internal measurement, again not the deadline, we are at 32 cases versus this time last year we were at 24. Im going to take a moment to talk about this because we mentioned it last week. So last week we were at 47 cases. And that number was going up. As i said, a lot of it is because of our new computer system. So i had everyone work on that by hand to pull all of those cases to look to see what we were doing with those cases to try to get them processed. They were able to do it. It really is our system. Its a new system, like i said, a new computer system. So theres a lot of hands that go into our report, particularly when we are closing out cases. So all of the information from all of this investigators that worked on the case, all the legal team, all the supervisors that have gone through the case. But we are down now. And of those 47 cases, 15 have already been submitted for closure. So that was part of why those numbers were going up. They just hadnt been processed. And so thats how we get to the new number of 32 where we are right now. Of the 32 cases, nine of those cases are still being told. We are still not finished doing the hand count of all those cases that were there. So this number is fluctuating. Im just explaining to you why this number is fluctuating because of our new system. The majority of the remaining cases should be closed in the next two weeks is what my team are telling me. In terms of cases that are mediated, we are at 27 cases that have been mediated so far this year. Thats a significant uptick from last year where we were at 18. In terms we talked a little bit last week about i think you got an email from my chief of staff talking about the stuff linked to the information we got from that training. I want to mention, i dont know if it was in the update that you got that we had submitted three proposals to do the trainings. We were asked to make the submission. And they didnt select any of our submissions. But we will continue working with them. We want to continue being a partner with them. In terms of the operations and technology, some of the good news is the api and our aim system is up now. And that just happened this week. Its our system that provides notice with to the department when complaints come in. So within 24 hours of a new case, a new charge or allegation coming in, the department has notification of it. Its an automatic feed which includes a disciplinary history for the officer as well. Weve been sending this information out for the past ten years. But in the old system, part of that process had to be man manual and was done by hand and it was difficult to be reliable because the information would frequently crash and needed to be fixed. So we worked really closely with the Departments Network head im pronouncing it incorrectly kyhwoo. So now that we have a new system, we can do some of the reciprocal Data Exchange with the department as well so thats what we are working on now. But at least the system is up and running, and we are able to get some of our information out through the new system. Lets see. The only other thing i had to add in there as well is that we participated in the launch of the Domestic Violence Awareness Month from last week. And we participated in the bench Park Analytics review, which is the process we were just talking about with iap. There are no cases for the closed session today. And in the audience with me is my chief of staff sarah hawk hawkins in case there are any questions or anybody needs to speak with my staff. Lets take questions. Commissioner elias. I wanted to understand this correctly. You said you had a new system. Its my understanding the dpa has a new system for tracking its cases. Case management. Case Management System. So is there a date that the cases from this date forward are going into your new system . And what are you doing about the old cases . And how are you converting the old cases into your system . All the old cases are going through the new system. So thats part of our growing pains. The new system is set up and running. We are working out the kinks with it right now. So its set up and done. During the the summer that was a partnership we had with the force that were building it. But the operation is still a little tricky. Just because its built, it still has bugs that need to be worked out and things need to be reconfigured in order to make it work in similar ways that it was working in the past that was difficult. It was difficult to navigate. The system ultimately is going to be better but for right now theres still growing pains for retraining all the staff to use the new system to get the information out to work on the information and to get it out at the same time. And thats what we are working on, that part of what the challenge has been. And why there have been some delays so the information is available but trying to get the information into all the same places and to get it out is what we are having some struggles with. Did i say that correctly . That was confusing. If you get a new case and it comes in, are you scanning it in and cataloging it under the categories that would be discloseable under 1421, under pra . He confused everyone more. Good evening chief of staff. To answer your question, the new cases do have tags for all the 1421 categories. Old cases that were transferred into the system that were active may or may not have tags depending on how the data migration works, but Going Forward they will have that. All the cases are currently living in the system. But some of the fields with the force product they developed with a minimum viable product. So its like all the basics of the car but without some of the things that we really were hoping for and they are working with us. Youll get a presentation from them probably next month to explain what the process was and lessoned learned. So do you have somebody going through the old cases that have been migrated to tag them for the 1421 stuff . I believe so. And definitely i think if it was imported, some of the cases were imported in batches. So there were some issues with that migration. So i dont know if that happened with all of them. But all cases that are now there should be tagged or should be able to be tagged. When you say batches are you sort of getting all your cases and putting them into the system or are you prioritizing based on what would be subject to 1421 . They are all in the system. All our cases that are open are currently in the system. One of the issues was that certain documents that we generate couldnt be generated in the system. So that document lives in a separate space. And that was where part of the issue was coming from. But all the dpa cases are in the content Management System called insight and should be able to be tagged or have already been tagged for 1421. When director henderson says hes able to get out some information under the new system, im assuming he is referring to the cases that are in the new system and that you flagged and then 1421 requests have come and you are able to get those out fast. Are those getting out faster . I dont know that theyre getting out faster because we are still going by the requests we received so those are largely Historical Files but the information hes talking about was specifically the stats we presented every week here. Everything we had to do before was running manual reports. So the theory and the goal and we are partially there is insight will be able to run automatic reports. So we log into our dashboard and it will say heres how many percentages of cases are sustainable. Heres how many are open. All this stuff he tells you every week we have to pull manually or we previously did and now that will be automated through the insight system. And i believe and i should let sarah when we presents about insight, shell speak to this more, theres a tagging and searchable function for 1421 but ill have her answer that more fully when the presentation is calendared. I have asked the department and Commission Staff to be prepared to make a 1421 update presentation next month. And so at one of the meetings, probably the second meeting in november im going to ask that we get an update on where the three groups are. Great. Okay. Commissioner hamasaki. I think you just covered my question. I thought there was a discussion, director henderson. Dont go yet. Hold on. You might need to save him again. I barely know what im talking about. No, its not a very complex question. About just presenting and i think we talked about categories, as far as 1421 requests received, requests fulfilled Something Like that. Are you able to present that just those basic statistics . Sarah . Are you asking for those statistics to be presented every week . Wouldnt hurt. If thats something the commission is asking for we could do that. I thought we were going to do that when we had 1421 calendared but we can make that part of the weekly report. Sure, why not. Would that hurt . It would be good. I think we received a letter from the Public Defenders Office this week about and i apologize for not recalling the exact contents but it was related to 1421, i believe. So i know people have been asking so i think it would be helpful to show the degree to which progress is being made. Sure, i can definitely do that and have director henderson add that to the weekly report. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Next line item please. You had Something Else . No. We had a presentation of the strategic report, which im sure everyone is very excited. Well, i read it. They helped me get the powerpoint set up. I talked about it briefly. Dpa asked the commissioner to help us calendar four presentations about work that we mention in the weekly reports but wanted to give you more information about. The annual report was supposed to be the first part of that. We recalendarred that so the full commission could be there for that. Im going to talk to you about the Strategic Plan, which im really excited about. Hopefully the only one in this room. And two future presentations are going to focus on insight and our Mitigation Program because weve had multiple questions about that program come up at various commission meetings. So just a little bit of background. As you know but the audience public might not know, when director henderson was appointed to take leadership of the dpa it was at a time when the agency had been given huge additional responsibilities through voter mandates and a time when the agency itself really needed leadership in terms of facing staffing crises, technology crises and struggling to be able to efficiently fulfill the core mission, let alone taking over the investigation of all officer involved shootings adding audits and growing demands that civilian oversight agencies faced in the context we are in nationally. So when he came on board we had to look at how can we not just do what we need to do but do it more and do it better. So part of that focus on internal reforms and staffing and really drilling down to look at what is our core mission and how do we really define what we are trying to do. So one of the other things we did in addition to the cms was having some facilitated sessions. When we joined the agency, the structure was kind of separate in terms of investigators worked in a silo, lawyers, the Mediation Program was kind of firewalled off. And one of the first things we thought was important to do was to create a model where everyone was working together to produce the best investigations, the best work product to better serve the community and to more effectively represent our policy recommendations. So part of that process was talking to everybody figuring out what was working, what wasnt and what we could do to make everything better. How do i get this powerpoint . Thank you. I am a scarred Trial Attorney so technology is not always my friend. There we go. So first we started by slightly refining our mission and vision. Im not going to read you everything in the powerpoint because i know you can read and some of this is familiar content. But we did refine our mission and our vision. And think about what dpa wants to be, not just internally but in the world. We are at an opportunity where we have a lot more authority than other jurisdictions, and we really want to set the stage for others to be a wellrespected resource and model of civilian oversight. So we needed to valuize what we wanted to do. And we came up in a series of conversations with everybody in the agency from administration to investigators new people, people who had been there for 25 years who told me this is how we do this because this is how weve always done it, we came up with strategic pillars. And these pillars are what across the agency is important to us. We want to work with excellence. When they give a case to us, we want them to trust us. We want to empower our employees by giving them the training and resources they need. When we got the mandates to do the officer involved shootings, a lot of our invest gators investigators had not had exposure to ballistics. So the director helped us get funding to send people to ois training. And also to let our team know that we cared about them and we want them to have the tools they need. We also want to really focus on leveraging data to make decisions. We were talking about that in the context of eis. Its so important in everything, thats the impetus for us getting this new system, so we can look at what we have. Thats why the annual report is so important to look at the case studies and see whats happening. We want to enimprove enabling tools and processes. So we had some really ancient technology and some really ancient work flows like Carrier Pigeons are flying around the office to drop off a document thats printed six times and dropped off six different places. We wanted to move away from that and get our processes more effective. And we want to strengthen internal and external relationships. We are in a unique position with the department and the community. There are a ton of Partner Organizations that has a vested interest in what we are doing. And we want to make all those relationships better. Internally, we want the lawyers and investigators in the Mediation Team to work together. So those are the four things we wanted to focus on across the agency. And then we took those pillars and broke it down to goals per division of the organization. So the first is investigations and i promise i wont read all this text. But we looked at the four pillars and made specific objectives under each pillar. And then we came up with Key Performance indicators. Like how are we going to measure that, right . Its great everybody can make a glossy Strategic Plan with a goal but how are we going to measure what we are telling you we are trying to do. So for example with the Investigations Unit we want an increased percentage of dpa sustained recommendations up held by the police chief or police commission. This goes back to we are producing a good investigation, our recommendations are accurate in terms of what we believe a case is worth. And that is up held throughout the disciplinary process. We also want to have all investigations resolved within the ninemonth time frame. We created a Case Management policy where certain cases our goal is to have them done in six months. We want all our cases to be done in nine months as director henderson reported earlier, we are not hitting that yet but thats our goal. Certain cases officers on disability that wont be able to happen. But there used to be, because of resource issues, kind of a well, the deadline is that so thats when the case needs to be done. And we absolutely have moved away from that thinking in dpa. The legal team, same thing. We want to deliver excellent legal analysis. We have been able to hire a legal team that im incredibly proud of. And we want to use them to, again help with our investigations and to be bringing up the caliber of the work product that we are producing and the presentations we are making to you. So thats important to us, strengthen the relationships, use the lawyers to really help train the investigators on issues like the Fourth Amendment and other issues that come up in investigations. Same thing, we want to use the cms use our tools to be more effective in our work and capture data. What are the trends we are noticing that need to lead to policy revisions . What are the trends we are noticing that maybe eis isnt picking up and what do we do with that . Its something we are constantly thinking about. With regard to policy, we, again want to deliver excellent policy recommendations that are backed by best practices. We want to be able to communicate those in an effective, understandable approachable and adoptable sort of way. And we want those policy decisions to come from data to come from not just an he an he can anecdotal data. A lot are related to specific cases especially around Domestic Violence and language access. But i have a lot of questions like when the use of force policy changed, how did that impact what cases were coming through dpa. That sort of thing. So mediation again weve talked a lot about how director henderson expanded the Mediation Program. We want to increase the amount of mediations we do in cases that are appropriate. We think that one of dpas overarching goals is to help bridge the gap between the community and sfpd. When we presented my comment was use the force right . Like we might be able to help in those one on one interactions where a Community Member just needs to be heard. So i dont want to still share an ugly but i will say we have been increasing mediations and we want to keep doing that. We want to strengthen partnership and relationships with Law Enforcement through the Mediation Program, obviously most officers arent thrilled to come to dpa for an investigation, right . But i have heard that they are engaged in the Mediation Program, a lot of times they find that beneficial. We want to increase the number of mediations. This gets back to our performance metric, increase number of mediations as well as increase satisfaction as measured through surveys by the officer and by the Community Members who are part of the mediation. Outreach has been a huge thing that director henderson has prioritized. And i think weve already expanded the outreach a lot which has resulted or i cant prove a causal connection but i think there is an inference to be made that the increase in outreach has led to increased number of complaints because we are out in more communities. We are out in communities where we have people who speak that language who are doing the outreach. We really worked on language access. The department has been a great partner with us in terms of getting our materials available easily at the district stations. Its kind of where do we go next. We want to be speaking in a uniform way in the community and have it be a twoway dialogue where we are not just pass out fliers. We also want to be a resource in partnership with community agencies. Our metric for measuring this is increased awareness for mission and service and strengthening the engagement with other partners in the community. Finally the administration and clerical team, we want to build our administration capacity, increase internal alignment which is just, again, a lot of what i have done is internal and its not that exciting to talk about. But it is getting everybody on the same page, getting our work flows and our processes to be efficient. So that we are not wasting time there. We are really spending the extra time on all the other work that we need to do. And improving tools and processes like the cms. So that is our Strategic Plan. One of the ways we really want to use it, i dont know how you all feel, but in our line of work it feels like theres always an emergency. And theres always a new project. And we kind of needed a grounding document that we are like, okay, if this isnt urgent, has to be taken care of, is this something that fits within our priorities, if not, its not going to be prioritized right now because this is the heart and soul of what we are trying to do as an agency. Commissioner mazzucco. Thank you very much. That was a great report. Thank you for not reading everything. You didnt have to. It was excellent. I have a question, though, with reference to three to fiveyear Strategic Plan. Nowhere in here is mentioned the fact you are taking over the investigations for the Sheriffs Department. So theres two theres actually three things that are not in here and ill speak to all of them. When we started making the Strategic Plan this year, cases were not even on our radar. And we had limited engagement to be able to finish. And this document is a product of digging deep with what was already happening at dpa. So this is a living document which will be updated to include not just the sheriffs cases depending on how that goes forward but also the audit unit. And also the 1421 or Public Record group. So none of those are in here. And its a living document that well flesh out as we go. We now have the tools to run those sort of sessions so i dont think well need that to come back in order to do that. So i would anticipate an update once those things are finalized. Im proud that the Sheriffs Department and city should decide you should do the investigations because you are qualified to do that. Im concerned about obviously staffing. And im also concerned somewhere down the road, which will involve the City Attorney opinion we as a commission oversee the Police Department and the dpa but we dont oversee the Sheriffs Department. So where does our role in overseeing the dpa and your investigations of the Sheriffs Department, where do we fit into that puzzle . So those are things for the future. That we need to discuss as a commission. And congratulations. And i think this shows faith and confidence in what you are doing. I have some concerns about how it gets handled structurally. So that was my question question, where does that fit into the Strategic Plan. I imagine there will be an amendment. Exactly. Thank you. I appreciate that comment. I have talked to commissioner brookter about that and asked since he is our point person with the dpa to start working with the City Attorney, so that we can get some comfort in knowing what it is that the supervisors think that we are going to do and what is it that the charter really requires that we, the commission, do. Because we do have oversight of the dpa but not the sheriff. And we do need to wrestle through that. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Anything else from the dpas report . Thats enough. It is. Next item, please. Line item 1c, Commission Reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. Commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for future commission meetings. Commission president report, commissioner reports. Two quick items. I have asked there be a 1421 presentation in november. Im not clear on the date. It will either be the first or second meeting. I think probably the second meeting, from the commission, from the dpa, from the department. Second i meet with hillard and cal doj today to get an update on the implementation of the reform measures that were recommended by the u. S. Department of justice a few years ago. There will be a greater presentation to the public and commission in a few months. But things are moving along. Its not going quickly but it is going effectively. And i guess we can be happy for that part. Other commissioners with reports . Commissioner elias. We met the working group met this week. We went over or to let you know the 5. 17, has been essentially completed and reviewed by the chief who had some comments that were taken back to the working group. What we are working now is 5. 03 which is the investigation because it was so ingrained in the sort of bias dgo. Our next meeting is october 21st. We are hoping to have that finalized. And its my understanding chief, you are simultaneously reviewing sort of whats coming out from the working group so that when we do have these final documents concurrent its not going to deviate that far from what the recommendations that have come out from the working group and from you. Thats correct. That was a huge issue last time. 5. 03, detention. Right. And then im anticipating they will be up for review or agendize probably the first meeting in november is what we are looking at. Because i think we could probably get it to the chief and through concurrent in november, come back december and ageneral agendize and get it going. I was told today there are several recommendations from u. S. Doj that are being held up by those two general orders. So we do need to get those moved. Okay. Next item, please. Line item 1d, Youth Commissioners report. I dont know if we have that. Do we have a Youth Commissioners report today . Great. Thank you. Good evening. I think we talked about how bad these microphones are. Good evening, commission. The Youth Commission last time we were here, we were asking for this standing agenda item. Now we have it. So we felt that it would be important to, one say thank you because we think that young people often dont get included in the conversations in transparency, especially with the police, so therefore we appreciate the position. The other things we want to do is just state our priorities and things that we want to see. And then we go back, we talk about them. And next time we come, we ask more questions im assuming. So with that, some of our priorities, specifically from our transformative justice committee, are knowing your rights workshops for young people, people of color and undocumented people consolidating resources and knowledge to share for interactions with Law Enforcement building better relationships with police and young people, and believing in Community Care solutions that dont involve incarceration therefore we are closely involved with, like, the Juvenile Hall the mayor Blue Ribbon Panel radical imagination committee and the closure. We feel theres a disproportionate amount of youth in jail systems. And we are also working with the dgo working group on youth arrests. So those are some of our priorities. And as for things we want to see, we really want a wort back from the Community Engagement division of the Police Department to see how they are interacting with young people. I heard some of that earlier, like the pal program. Maybe this isnt my time to complain about things. [laughter]. No, its an open mic. For instance, i have a disability, i dont really play sports. But i attended Public Schools all my life. Havent really had interactions with Police Officers that were, like positive at school, you know. They would just say hello and shake my hands. They do nice things . I dont know. I dont know why. Maybe the people at the Police Department can look into that more. And so we want to see how they influence young people. And that goes into just what we expect from ourselves and a better understanding of what they do and how they actually interact with the schools not just the administration at schools. And we would like to see more person to person interaction with the young people from srros. And the information that is being gained from police town halls that they host with you, we really want to see what the implementation is around the information they gather there and make sure that the Community Voice is valued and things are put in place. Any questions . Yeah. I just want to ask you going back to your First Priority training on rights. What did you have in mind . Does the Youth Commission have in mind something thats put on by the Police Department or by dpa or some entity that gives youth an understanding a better understanding of their legal rights . Yeah, and i think thats an ongoing conversation we have to go back and look at some things. But some things that weve mentioned are like, workshops at schools where we can pass out some sort of pamphlet and talk young people through that pamphlet so they have a better understanding of rights they have. But again, we are still looking at that. And it will probably progress, maybe well talk about that the next time i come back. Okay, thanks. Commissioner elias. Thank you for presenting. And welcome this is your first sort of presentation. One of the things i wanted to sort of let you know and ask the chief, i know during our working group, we were able to see the youth pamphlet that is going to be distributed regarding sort of like a know your rights type of pamphlet but it talks about what happens when the police come up to you and whether you are free to go and what to do and sort of what happens when juveniles interact with the police. So i wanted to know, one chief if the Youth Commission has been consulted with respect to the pamphlet that you its my understanding the department is working on. And if they have been consulted and if they havent, i would like them to be consulted prior to getting the pamphlet printed and out there to the community. Because i think the Youth Commission would have some valuable input on that process. Yes, commissioner. So one of the things i directed was that we actually sit down with youth with our draft pamphlet. Right. To discuss it and see if they understand it. So we are reaching out to several youth groups. And we will include the Youth Commission on that, in that discussion. But we have already begun that process. And we want to see if they understand the pamphlet, and two provide feedback if if theres something we can do better to make it clearer or more understandable. Thats the purpose of these meetings. So thats already been directed. I dont think the Youth Commission was added to that list but we will add it. I know in our Bias Working Group we had a long discussion about the pamphlet. But i think it makes sense to have the Youth Commissions input. Because from an adult they were mostly lawyers in the room. But sort of that perspective is way different and probably more complicated than your perspective would be on this issue. So i think thats a very valuable piece. Okay. Vice president taylor. Thank you so much for your presentation. Commissioner elias mentioned our Bias Working Group and we did spend a lot of time on the know your rights brochure and both dpa and sfpd are developing know your rights pamphlets that are geared towards having understandable information for young people on what your rights are. And shes right, there were a lot of lawyers in the room, and we all had strong opinions about what the pamphlet should look like. I pose the same question to dpa because they spent a lot of time on their pamphlet as well. So i think it would behoove all of us to make sure that the young people who are actually the audience of the pamphlet are involved, engaged in it. And after the training, i think dpa did include the Youth Commission. They were part of it. Great. And after the training, i think thats a fantastic idea. And thank you so much for is suggesting it and maybe you can get together with someone from the department or dpa and kind of flesh out the idea for what that training would look like, what would be most helpful for you all because i think thats a really great idea. As to your question about how officers interact with young people, so much of what we do on this commission as commissioners is well learn from smart people like you and well ask the chief to put something to agendize a matter for calendar so we can explore it further. So if you have a more kind of details around what you would like to know, when you say how often they interact, well ask for the chief to agendize it. So i would like to get more information from you as to what it is you are looking for if you thought about it. Yeah. I could answer for myself but i would want to go back to the committee and make sure that we are all on the page. But i will very quickly say that ive actually been trying to get with someone in the department to kind of work on stuff like that. So feel free to reach out to me. Youth commissioner, Vice President of tj committee. I also house if anybody. We definitely need a car. I have a friend thats a cadet so im working with him to meet with people he knows in the department because he knows more than me. I think if you have someone that takes names and numbers. I think thats whats going to happen. Feel free. We have a secret person. Text me. Phone numbers for you. Commissioners. Go ahead. I was going to thank him. Commissioner hamasaki. Oh. Just kind of following up on know your rights, director henderson. Yes. I dont mean to interrupt your conversation. Hes making his presentation. But has dpa done know your rights before with youth . We have. And we worked really closely with the Youth Commission. It was related . It was. I was asking. A subcommittee was going on. I was asking what the role of the public defender was in that process and the know your rights stuff my familiarity with that process in the past had involved the Public Defenders Office as well as some of the other law schools and the street law component where they would do. Street law nice. Yeah. In my role now at dpa i know that we worked side by side with the Youth Commission to develop the pamphlet we put together. And i think we were all trying. Ive done know your rights trainings. Theres a lot of material out there. Theres know your rights training specific to immigrants. So it would be great if dpa could work with the Youth Commission to develop some sort of regular know your rights training to help young people understand that they actually do have rights when engaging with Law Enforcement and so forth and that helps make the interactions more positive for everybody involved. So i appreciate you bringing that to us. You did a fabulous job tonight. I cant afford a house in the bay area but if i do ever hit the lottery im calling you. I just wanted to thank mr. Jones as well. I know we meet on a prior occasion. Two things, we do meet i meet with the Youth Commission on a regular basis. And ive been doing that since i arrived here. So i would invite you to work out with your fellow commissionerses would love for you to attend the next meeting. The other thing just for your information, working with kids with disabilities, you are near and dear to my heart. So we have started an internship through the School System for kids with disabilities. That started about a year ago. Weve been working with kids. They worked with our unit, working with the horses. And theyve also done some internships at our Community Engagement division. So that Program Actually is going again this year. So just wanted to point that out to you. And we would love to hear your suggestions. Sounds like i like you guys more than i know. [laughter] as for Youth Commission stuff been out of town for two weeks so im catching back up. I went out of the country and now im back so im catching up on stuff. But ill look into that. Maybe i can meet with you as well. Commissioner brookter. Thanks again. I know mr. Jones have known him for years. So its amazing. This isnt his first time at a microphone. I did want to share, it would behoove us as we finish up to potentially run that by the Youth Commissioner, and that was one of the things you wanted to look into. So take a look at that mou before it gets solidified, that would be good. Commissioner mazzucco. I want to thank you mr. Jones, for coming forward tonight. You do great work on the Youth Commission. And you have our attention. You have the chiefs attention. And its important that you do what you can do for the city and the Youth Commission. To my fellow commissioners, two of the most insightful opportunities weve had tonight are from the youth that have spoken. They have been clear unambiguous and insightful. Between you and the pal cadet that came forward, thats probably the most beneficial aspect of tonight so thank you. Thanks very much. Thank you very much. Next item, please. Line item 1e, commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings. Action. Any announcements . Okay. Seeing none, next item, please. The public is now invited to comment on items 1a through 1e. All right. This is not general Public Comment yet. Its comment on what we have discussed already. So anybody who has comments on that, please

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