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That might be a bigger spot. Point well taken. I think we could do an investigation on that. Thank you very much. They are very open. I did have a couple things on the commission, though. As i mentioned last meeting, i watched that seven part series, it was made in 2006, a video on government t. V. Somebody will know the name of that series, but there is a seven part series. Are you talking about the battalion . It is about the Fire Department and all the things you do. It is under the title it was fascinating. I learned so much. I have seen bits and pieces of it before, but i watched the whole series. It was fantastic. I enjoyed that. If you have nothing to do at one in the morning, that is something to do. [laughter] im sure you can pick it up online. The other thing is, i wanted to say i attended chief turners Retirement Party at local 798. It was quite heavily attended. It was very nice. You had the former chief there, and everybody was happy. They were a big crowd and a lot of fun. It was an elvis theme pick you would have liked it it was an elvis theme. You would have liked it. It was quite fun. And then interesting on 911, we also have our regular meeting day, so that will be an interesting day. We will have a meeting following the remembrance. We start at 6 45 a. M. You will have time. That was it on the commissioner report. Im sorry i missed that meeting. I do have here and v. For sure. I do wish chief rivera the best. I did want to report that i did meet with the chief yes yesterday to discuss amending the animal policy. I hope we can come up with something. I think we may be able to come up with something that the commission should see hopefully soon. Other than that, thank you. Thank you very much. Vice president covington . Thank you. Chief rivera his oneofakind, and i will miss him. [laughter] but you are here now, so thank you for taking on this assignment. I wanted to say, i attended two events, one was the earthquake safety and Emergency Response bond, which is going to be ruled out in 2020. The mayor introduced that, and it is going to help with the seismic upgrading and needed improvement to neighborhood fire stations, it is also going to assist in the building of a new, modern firefighting training facility, and also renovate and upgrade the aging emergency firefighting water system. And then i did see our chief of the department at the signing of the budget for the city and county of San Francisco, which is quite exciting. I think the budget is is it 12 billion . That is a new record for the budget for the city and county of San Francisco. So those. I think this 2020 bond is going to be fabulous for us. I really appreciate the Mayors Office and the board of supervisors for supporting that. Thank you very much. Commissioner hardeman . I did have lunch with a small group of us with Nancy Pelosis chief of staff. It was very informative and gave us a different perspective of what we read in the papers. It was very nice to have that. He made time for us. Thank you very much. Before we move on to the agenda, again, i was able to attend with the chief and officers the ceremony of the topping of station 49, the new station 49. I wanted to acknowledge the department of public works. Commissioners, i thank you would be greatly impressed. Basically to see rendition his and then to walk onto the lot and stand in front of this amazing building, station 49 is just going to be totally exciting for us. I wanted to acknowledge that, as well. Thank you for that. Madame secretary . Item h. , agenda for next and future Fire Commission meetings. I will call for Public Comment on this item number 8, agenda for your future and next Fire Commission meetings. Seeing then from the public, Public Comment is closed. Commissioner cleveland . Thank you, mr. President. I just had a couple of things that i would like to see on a future agenda. Obviously, you know, i guess it has been almost maybe a year ago it seems like that we had a retreat for our commission. Were supposed to get some kind of report on the outcome of that , and i would like to see that if possible on a future Commission Meeting. Also, we sent a letter out to the guardians of the city, and weve gotten a response, but i think that response needs to be explored a little bit more and we need to have a more comprehensive discussion about the guardians of the city and the Fire Departments relationship with the guardians in the near future. Obviously the civil grand jury report that came out recently is going to be and needs to be a topic of discussion and we need to have that more thoroughly discussed at a future meeting, and i would like to have the grants coordinator of that or the new grants person, whenever that person is finally hired by the department, to meet with the commission and be at the committee at a Commission Meeting so that we have an opportunity to meet her or him and discuss publicly what we think that grants position person could do or should do for the department. That is it. Thank you very much. Duly noted. At this point, Vice President covington . Thank you. Yes, i certainly agree with commissioner cleveland that we should have a report out on the retreat. We have had, as you are aware, a lengthy process of going through the candidates for the chief of the department, and we also had a lengthy transition. We have been otherwise engaged, but soon to be back at it. But i agreed that it should go on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you very much. Commissioner hardeman . Yes, just a reminder that we requested captain coughlin of the port, and anyone who might be i was going to say captain lee who was working on the chase to get a little run down on the waterfront and what is going on down there with all this activity. It has been a couple years since we had a report specifically on that work. We know that this is with the discretion of cheek chief nicholson in terms of that regard in terms of an update with what commissioner hardeman suggested in terms of the port update and such. It is up to your discretion. Yeah, we can do that in a deputy chiefs report, absolutely. Okay. Yes, i believe in october, which is only a couple months away, we will be at the oneyear mark since his commission asked the chief of the department to come back to us with since this commission asked the chief of the Department Come back to us acknowledging the chief his new here and she is getting her feet wet, 100 days in, and most of that time is spent in the prior administration. I would really like to get that at some point before the year is up, or soon thereafter. And then also, yesterday i met with cal fire, who onto who on this topic, they just got a bunch of money in their budget for this and they will put some administration behind it and maybe looking into doing this work, as well. There may be some help from cal fire in this respect. It would be great to put that on the future agenda so that we can get an update on it, but it would be even better if we could put it behind us. Okay. Thank you very much. We will coordinate with the Chiefs Office on that particular update in terms of what you were talking about. Appointive information, madame secretary, next the next Commission Meeting, we have the grand jury report on agenda. Correct. To your question, commissioner cleveland, and we also will have a presentation by the department of physicians. At some point, there will be a conference and discussion with the department. We will try to schedule that over the city discussion. We can look at that particular issue, as well. And through the coordination and discretion through the Vice President , the update report on the retreat summary. Having said that, i think we got most of those items on the table or at least on the docket. Commissioners, we will try to schedule this through the remaining meetings of the year. Hopefully with a retirement ceremony, as well. Madame secretary . Item nine, correspondence received since last meeting, a letter from james lee, chair of the guardians of the city. Commissioners, we will take Public Comment at this particular item at this point. Any member of the public . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners, any questions or discussion . I know that it is a discussion that will come up in the future Commission Meeting. We also wanted an opportunity for staff to be able to review the latest correspondence from guardians over the city so that we have some information. Other than that, it is acknowledged. Madame secretary . Item ten, Public Comment on item 11. I will ask for Public Comment on item 11. We will go into closed session, but is there any member of the public that wishes to comment on item 11 . At this time, seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Madame secretary . Vote on whether to conduct item 11 be in closed session. All right, commissioners, we have a motion in terms of ob hard for us to go into closed session. May i have a motion . So moved. Moved by commissioner cleveland and seconded by Vice President covington. All in favor . Back in open session. The time is 12 04. Item 12. Report an any action taken in closed session. At this point, i would like to report that the commission has reaffirmed and approved evaluation conducted, performance evaluation conducted to our commission secretary. That was voted unanimously as an approval. And item 13. Vote on whether to disclose any or all discussions held in closed session. Well take Public Comment on this item first. Seeing no member of the public here, that item is closed. Move to not disclose our discussions. I have a motion not to disclose. Second. Seconded by the vicepresident. All in favor say aye. Aye. We have concluded this meeting in open session. This meeting is adjourned. My name tom hewitt. First of all, i would like to welcome everyone to come to this fair. This safety fair, we trying to educate the public regarding how to prepare themselves during and after the earthquake and then to protect themselves for next 72 hours. Hi. My names ed sweeney. Im the director of services at department of building inspection, and we put together a great fair for the city of San Francisco to come down and meet all the experts. Weve got engineers, architects. We have builders, we have government agencies. Well, we have four specific workshops. We have the accessible business entrance. My name is leah, and i am the assistant manager with the department of small business. I am leading the new accessibility ordinance that helps existing owners better comply with existing access laws. So all buildings that have places of public accommodation in San Francisco, they must comply with this ordinance. The a. D. E. Was setup by the board of supervisors, and the ordinance was passed about a year ago. One of the biggest updates that we have is that the deadlines were extended, so all of the deadlines were extended by six months. And its really to help the public, the Business Community to be specific, to cut down on the amount of drive by lawsuits. So on this workshop, were going to be covering what the compliance looks like, what business examiand property owne need to know how to comply with the ordinance. Well also talk about the departments that are involved, including the office of small business, department of building inspection, planning department, as well as the Mayors Office on disability. Hi. Im marselle, and i manage a team at the building department. Today, well cover the meaning of a. D. U. S, more commonly known as accessory dwelling units. Well talk about the code and permitting processes, and well also talk about legalizing existing dwelling units that are currently unwarranted. This is the department of Building Inspections residential remodelling workshop. My name is senior electrical inspector cheryl rose, and at this workshop, were going to be answering questions such as do i need an electrical permit when im upgrading my dwelling, when do i need to have planning involved in a residential remodel, and whats involved with the coerce process . Were going to also be reviewing inspection process, and the permitting process for residential remodel in San Francisco. Theres always questions that need answers. Its a mystery to the general public what goes on in construction, and the more we can clarify the process, the more involved the consumer can be and feel comfortable with the contractors theyre working with and the product theyre getting in the results. If you have questions that arent addressed in this workshop, youre always welcome to come up to the third floor of 1660 Mission Street, and were happy to discuss it with you and find out what you need to do. The program is very successful. The last piece is already 60 in compliance. Well, we have a very important day coming up. Its sept 15. Last four has to be compliance, which means that the level four people that have to register with us and give us a basic indication of how theyre going to deal with their seismic issues on their building. Im francis zamora, and im with the San Francisco department of emergency management, and today we talked about how to prepare for emergencies in San Francisco. And so thats really importantiimportant. In San Francisco, its no secret. We live in earthquake country. Theres a big chance we will be involved in a major earthquake in the next 30 years, but we dont have to be afraid. These are going to be your First Responders outside of the police officers, paramedics, First Responders, these are going to be the people that come to your aid first. By getting to know your neighbors, youre going to know who needs help and who can help in case of an emergency. One of the great ways to do that is for signing7for nert, San Francisco neighborhood Emergency Response team. It teaches you how to take care of yourself, your loved ones, and your neighborhood in the case of an emergency. Information is just as important as water and food in an emergency. San francisco has an emergency text message alert system, called text sf. If theres some kind of an emergency happening in San Francisco or your neighborhood, it could be a police action, a big fire, a tsunami or an earthquake. All you have to do is text your citizenship code to 888777, and your mobile phone is automatically registered for alert sf. My name is fernando juarez, and im a fire captain with the San Francisco Fire Department. We have a hire extinguisher training system. You want to pull the pin, stand at least 8 feet away, aim it at the base. If youre too close, the conical laser that comes out, its too small, and the fire wont go out on the screen. If you step back, the conical shape on the screen is bigger, and it will take the fire go out faster. So it can tell when youre too close. My name is alicia wu, and im the director of a San Francisco based nonprofit. Since 2015, we go out to the public, to the community and provide training in different topics. Today were doing c. P. R. , controlling external feeding and how to do Perfect Communications in each topic, and also, i hope that they can bring it home and start gathering all the supplies for themselves to. On any given day in San Francisco, were very well resourced in terms of Public Safety professionals, but we all know in the event of a large scale disaster, it will be hours and days before the Public Safety professionals can get to you, so we encourage people to have that plan in place, be proactive. Theres websites. We have a wonderful website called 72hours. Org. It tells you how to prepare yourself, your family, your pets, your home, your workplace. We cant emphasize enough how important it is to be today we are going to talk about fire safety. We are here at the urban center on Mission Street in San Francisco. Its a wonderful display. A little house in the urban Center Exhibition center that shows what its like in a home in San Francisco after an earthquake. One of the major issues that we are going to face after earthquakes are fire hazard. We are happy to have the fire marshall join us today. Thank you. My pleasure. We talk about the San Francisco earthquake that was a fire that mostly devastated the city. How do we avoid that kind of problem. How can we reduce fire hazard . The construction was a lot different. We dont expect what we had then. We want to make sure with the gas heaters that the gas is shut off. If you shut it off you are going to have no hot water or heat. Be careful not to shut it off unless you smell gas. Absolutely because once you do shut it off you should have the Utility Company come in and turn it back on. Here is a mock up of a gas hear the on a house. Where would we find the gas meter . It should be in your garage. Everyone should be familiar with where the gas meter is. One of the tools is a wrench, a crescent wrench. Yes. The crescent wrench is good and this is a perfect example of how to have it so you can loosen it up and use it when you need it. Okay. Lets go inside to talk about fire safety. Many of the issues here relate to fire, for example, we have a little Smoke Detector and i see you brought one here, a Carbon Monoxide Smoke Detector. This is a combination of smoke and Carbon Monoxide detector. They are required in single homes now and in apartment buildings. If Gas Appliance is not burning properly this will alert you before the fumes buildup and will affect you negatively. This is a Battery Powered . This is a Battery Powered and it has a 10 year battery life. A lot of times you may have one or the other. If you put in just a Carbon Monoxide detector, its important to have one of these too. Every house should have a fire extinguisher, yes. One thing people expect to do when the power goes out after an earthquake about using candles. What would you recommend . If you have a battery operated candle would be better to use. This kind of a candle, you wouldnt want it in an area where it can cause a fire or aftershock that it doesnt rollover. You definitely want to have this in a noncombustible surface. Now, here we have our stove. After a significant earthquake we expect that we may have gas disrupted and so without gas in your home, how are you going to cook . Well, i wouldnt recommend cooking inside of the house. You have to go outside and use a portable stove or something else. So it wouldnt be safe to use your fireplace to cook . Not at first. You should check it by a professional first. Outside should be a safe place to cook as long as you stay away from buildings and doors and windows. Yes. That will be fine. Here we have some alternative cooking areas. You can barbecue and if you have a regular propane bark could barbecue. Thank you for joining us. And thanks for this terrific space that you have in this exhibition space and thanks for helping San Francisco stay safe. Good afternoon. I would like to call the meeting at the San Francisco Public Utilities commission to order. Can we please have the roll call , madam secretary . President cane is excused today. [roll call] we have a quorum. The next item is the approval of the minutes for july 23rd, 2019. Is there a motion to approve the minutes of july . So moved. Is there a second . Second. Any further comments on these minutes . All those in favor . Aye. Opposed . The motion carries. The next item is general Public Comment. I have a few cards here. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, commissioners today, i want to recap, you know , when i come over here during general Public Comment, sometimes i reveal to you all a few things and then when i sit down, and, you know, i cannot be here forever, because i have other things to do, i leave. And other people come and they talk about your interns and this and that, and we the public, and the constituents and taxpayers of the bayview Hunters Point area, we are not fully cognizant of what is happening with large amounts of money, okay . So one of the commissioners, i will not name him, he did say the last time about the sewer system Improvement Project. Is started with a 6 billiondollar figure, and im telling you that at the rate things are happening, its going to be like 15 billion, i repeat , 15 billion. With what is happening in the economy, the tariffs, and so on and so forth. Now, none of our commissioners, i know two commissioners over there went to check on this and something else. And then when somebody was giving a presentation here, she said, you know, they are going to go down 30 feet, and then it commissioners said no, we were told that we are going to go to bed rock, and so on and so forth so this mickey mouse must stop. This mickey mouse with the millennium building, it is sinking 22 inches and tilting 1e salesforce building. We must be aware of such facts. Now we have people in the San Francisco Public Utilities commission who know nothing about workforce. Let the workforce be done by the unions, thats where it belongs. Ive said, in very simple terms, because i know about workforce a lot, that we want career jobs, we dont want this mickey mouse with some interns and we want to talk about the sewer system Improvement Project and bring the interns from the water system Improvement Project. Lasting they had interns over here, and they heard to speak and they said wow, is this what is happening with the as if you see . And they left. Commissioners . We need to do our homework. We need to have our heart in the right place. Thank you very much. Thank you. Can i comment through the chair . Please. Thank you for your words because the Labor Movement is the only independent organization of different trades in america that actually fights for workers. For you to acknowledge that, i thank you. Thank you, commissioner. I have another Public Comment card from and clark. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Thank you very much for having me. I am with the Commonwealth Club of california. You have an announcement, i think it is very strange to have this announcement on november 10 th, but these announcements have to go in early. So we got this done so that we could get it to you so it can go into the magazine and the programs at the Commonwealth Clubs. November 10th is city college of San Francisco engineering, architecture, technology and the environment, and we gave you a list of the kinds of things that we are doing at city college. It is really quite wonderful. You will see that theres a lot going on in terms of the environment and a lot of help that we have had all of these years from s. F. You see. We really want to thank you for all of your help and support. And finally, i really need i mean this has been a wonderful alliance between San Francisco and city college. Finally, i want you to know i was a volunteer leader for camp may there for the last week. And we won the bingo problem. We had the highest bingo. Congratulations. Thank you. It was hot up there, we had a wonderful time, and as always, camp mather was really fun and really good. We had an awful lot of little kids this year. It was quite amazing how many little kids and families that were there. We had a couple people who came, and we also met his fatherinlaw in the line for dinner. If you get a chance to go to camp mather, come because it is a very special place. Again, we look forward to the program on november 10th, and i will remind you of that, of the city college of San Franciscos engineering, architecture, technology and Environment Program that we will have on november 10th. Thanks a lot. It will be at the Commonwealth Club. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all of your good work on behalf of camp mather. We really appreciate it. I have another Public Comment card. Good afternoon, peter. Good afternoon. Im with the river trust. As i have mentioned before, we have had some concerns about the water supply assessments and the disconnect between sfpuc and the Planning Commission. It sounds like some progress is being made in communications, which is a good thing. I will share a letter that we submitted on the flower mart project from the Planning Commission just to give you a sense of some of our issues. Our concerns did attract attention of the Mayors Office and we appreciated people pulling together a small meeting last week. We appreciated others participating. It was a constructive meeting. We hope it was the beginning of an ongoing dialogue. We think there are a lot of things we could do working together to meet the states goals of ensuring reliable water supply and restoring the ecosystem. There are a lot of factors that influence water supply and longerterm outcomes. For example, demand, and sa pointed out before, there was quite a difference between projected demand for 2018 and actual demand of the 31 there was a 30 1 difference. If we can get better at demand projections for the future, that should impact our drought planning scenario. Water rights and new supplies, we talked about it a number of times here. There are flow requirements from the state board and the sfpuc. If it is based on the fourth agreement, it is 51. 7 , if it is based on a share of use, it would be 20 , that would be a big difference. The board has not determined how they are going to address that so far. The level of rationing, we saw 30 decline in demand between 2006 and 2016. That was quite remarkable, and it shows we can accomplish a lot by storage. Maybe their opportunities, especially additional groundwater storage, maybe in the Central Valley partnering with the irrigation districts to capture extra water on what years and sharing some of that, similar to the water bank on pedro. And then obviously drought planning, which is something that has come up a lot. We are hoping that weekend have ongoing dialogue, engaging stakeholders, and see if we can Work Together to come up with a solution that meets everyones needs. Thank you very much. Thank you. Any other general comments at this time . Hearing none, next item, please. Item five is communications. So you have before you communications. Are there any questions or comments on anything in the Communications Packet . Any general comments . Public comments on communications . Hearing none, next item. Item six is report of the general manager. Good afternoon, commissioners the first item i would like to bring up Michael Carlin to talk about they delta Water Quality control plan update. Actually, we will have steve do the presentation, but i can do it, as well. I am here today. Good to see you. It has been a while. I have been on vacation at camp mather. A big bingo week i understand before you start, do you want to share i mean you can have steve give the presentation, but i want you to share the meeting that you had with the mayor and peter and what the outcomes were , and the commitments that were made. We did have a meeting in the Mayors Office. The mayors chief of staff did convene a meeting with the senior visor on the environment. In attendance were several people from the river trust and river strategies and gatekeeper. The purpose of the meeting was to allow the stakeholders to present what they think needs to be addressed by the p. U. C. , and in many cases, we agree with them because there are things that we are going to do, or are doing that are ongoing such as, we are looking at diversifying the water supply. We have are many questions discussions about that. We are working on those projects they are in our budget and we will be presenting those to you as well as talking to some of the stakeholders. Some of those projects involve others, as mentioned, such as the modesto irrigation districts , but we havent reached a point where we actually have project proposals to put on the table with them. We continue to work on those. We continue to work Going Forward on our demand projections and our draft scenarios. Next year we have to deal with the urban Water Management plan. In that plan we have to show the projections of what we think our water supply needs will be and how we will meet those needs, and how we will basically whether a drought. We have eight drought protection production cycle of eight and a half years. That is consistent with where the state is going. Right now they are at five years and if we look at what they are trying to project to do in the California Water plan, they may be asking for longer drought scenarios based on climate change. The other thing that we have been working on, and this is the process of launching an agreement, and launching an agreement just as the Water Quality with a full plan. And the voluntary agreements that we have proposed, we stated publicly a number of different flow and nonflow measures. And what i mean by nonflow measures as habitat improvements on the river for the fish that were targeted for enhancement. As we worked work through that process with the state, and i will steal all your thunder, steve, sorry. We are working with the state team and the state team consists of if i can go to the slides will quickly, that would be helpful. So this is just a depiction of the rivers and their tributaries of course, were talking about the three tributaries on the lower San Joaquin River. These are the three River Systems that were covered by the plans. And no other River Systems are covered by the plan that was adopted on december 12, 2019. But the agreement process is represented by many of the tributaries that are depicted here, including many of those on the sacramento side. You have to keep that in mind as we go through this that while the plan affects three tributaries, the voluntary agreement process is affecting much more than that. So when i talk about the team, what i mean by the state team as a secretary for the california Natural Resources agency, the secretary of the california Environment Protection agency, the state water board and their staff, the department of water resources, in the department of fish and wildlife. So these are the principal players that we have been dealing with in negotiating with over the past several months. They are trying to process as one state, which we appreciate because otherwise we get fragments of discussions and direction from the state. There are a number of different work groups that have been formed. I apologize if some of these things are cryptic. Assets to outcomes means basically how do you use the flow and nonflow measures to have a projection of an outcome for a fishery . Enhancement of the fishery, doubling of the population, those kinds of things that are actually necessary to have a measurable outcome, and we are working on what those are as far as biological and environment of targets. It is not like were just going to put water down the river, but there is a target we are trying to hitch. Theres also a government science and Adaptive Management group. Theyre trying to promote the decisionmaking process. For the river, many of the flows and nonflow measures are also part of a fork process that are Energy Regulatory commission process and the relicensing of the dam. This is where the fourth agreement comes in. Our assets, our flexibility is not there is much people would like to think. For example, on the sacramento side, theyre talking about, when did they want to have flow show up on the Sacramento River . They have much more discretion because they can have the water show up in june, they can have the water show up in may, we are looking at targeting mid march and april for flood cleaning and outmigration flow probably in late april to may, to june. Part of this also is a discussion has a state water contractors. I have talked to you about putting a. V. On diversions. This will be money that they would collect and part of the government science and the documentary program would be to distribute those fees and how they are allocated and spent. Sorry, who would issue this . And he would do it . If you want to look at it this way, the question is whether or not we participate in that or not and that has to be determined because our assets are not that flexible and we are also self funding all the improvements on the river right now. Who would determine how this would be spent . That is part of the hold government structure. When i talked about what i showed you earlier, it is the intro to the tributaries and san joaquin. The discussions are now dominating on the sacramento side. That is where 80 of the water goes into. The exporters, the Central Valley project and the state Water Project are heavily invested in that system. That is where most of the water is and that is where most of their assets are located. It is part of the conversation of what the government structure could and should look like. Would that be part of the vsa, part of the plan . It could be. This talks about whether there is an overall umbrella agreement amongst all the parties. That is nothing else we could look at. A number of different policy issues, the first one is a Critical Path one. Whether the plan should be amended and related to the viability of native fishes. Right now we have a narrative objective and a near any numerical objective. Were looking at whether we have a narrative objective and then use a plan of limitation to include the numerical target or the voluntary agreement. That is something we want to talk to parties about. We dont want to have if we agree with the state team, we dont want to have the state water board as part of the team to come back and say, we want more from you, we want to settle all at once and all the parties are approaching it that way. Enforcing commitments by the state water board, and this is where im not a lawyer, and i cant even quote the government code section. Basically that would be placed into the plan and would allow the state water board, under that government code section, to take enforcement code action to any nonperforming party. I think thats really important to have that. And theres another big question that comes up and that is what happens at the end of 15 years . We are already kind of discussing how, you know, if you think about the lifecycle of the salmon, the lifecycle of the salmon is about three years. And a 15 year period you might have five year classes and, you know, what happens if it is hard to see a trend, you know, so we are already talking about if things are performing well, if we are meeting our targets, and doing some of the things we would do, there could be an Automatic Extension of the agreement. Question. Sure. So the state is basically looking at the biggest rivers. Yeah, the two biggest rivers. There are numerous tributaries. So the tributaries in your agreement, you all are saying, we want to include the others. Correct. So with the state saying you dont fulfil your obligations they all have their own separate agreement and then there might be a pour over agreement of how the parties are going to Work Together. And then some parties, lets say theres tributary exit doesnt have an agreement, the plan would actually subject them to the elements of the plan that, you know, we are trying to get away from unimpaired flow to get into functional flow. Theyd be subject to the unimpaired flow appreciation that we could put in place. If your party is looking at that as an option, you want to come up with a plan that makes sense. You mentioned platinum advises at the very beginning. Who did they represent . Im not exactly sure. I just noticed that was on the card. He was an individual representing himself . Yeah. I was just trying to associate who was with what. I think he is just on his own capacity. Okay. Platinum advisors i would like to know who is in the room. If he is in there on his own, thats fine. If he is there with Platinum Advisors then i will refer that back to you thank you. Going back to the slides once again, i already mentioned this. Some of our issues are the state team in the majority of the participants are focused on the Sacramento River side. Thats where 80 of the water comes from. I think one of the things that we have is a very structured and well thought out and detailed voluntary agreement that we have put together. Some of the other agreements are still fuzzy. They need to get a little bit more clarity with how they are participating. We are the only tributary that is involved in the voluntary agreement on the San Joaquin River side. There are ongoing discussions with those entities and hopefully we can bring them to the table because it would be nice to have a package of all the phase i entities. The Technical Details really are important. You need to be very clear about what were saying, what we are committing to, and how were going to achieve that over a 50 year period. It is important to you as a commission because you will be approving, authorizing, appropriating funds to carry out these military agreements these agreements. Schedule. So this is where you wont see me anymore. August 23rd is when the state workforce will come up with biological goals. This is only going to affect phase i which is the three tributaries that i have mentioned. By october 2019, the state board will have a determination of whether or not they are satisfactory for ceqa analysis for the state board as an alternative to what they have already written. And then they have to carry that forward in a sequin analysis and a substitute if environmental document. They also need to put together by statute, a scientific basis report for the voluntary agreements. Theres thinking that those might be done by spring 2020. They have put out an outline of those reports. We have actually commented on those. We will hear back from them. Right now the schedule is that they will complete the draft sequel document by summer of 2020, and finally adopt it in summer of 2021. That is also what i would think they would take action on the state water board. It is kind of a long schedule. Things can happen, as we all know, but we are on this path right now and we will continue to stay on this path and continue to negotiate and talk to anybody, anywhere, any time about that decision. I will be glad to answer any questions. I have a couple of questions. I just wanted to also point out that we are planning to give a presentation to the Planning Commission. Right. We are coordinating with the Mayors Office to give a presentation to the Planning Commission on the assessments and what they mean. We have been working very closely with the planning assessors as we always have to put this information forward to the Planning Commission prior to that meeting. Theres a memo that will be prepared by Planning Commission staff. We are involved in this. We will report on the date when that takes place. We have accardo can we have a copy, too . Absolutely. August 23rd, when the biological goals will be set, that will come from that state working group . No, it comes in the state water board staff. They will just release the document. They will be kind to build a schedule and workshop around those goals. Theres no timeline about how they would adopt them or what they mean. We have asked questions about whether they are part of the Water Quality control plan, whether it is a statement by the state water board, and we are still in those discussions with the various parties in sacramento about that. I would love to request at our next meeting, that will be a public document, i assume . Sure. That we could get a briefing on what those say. I think those have significant implications especially since we did put a red put forth a resolution asking for the outcomes and what those look like. Right. We will read it over the weekend and be ready. I also was curious about where the points of contention still seem like they are in these conversations because my recollection is they were still april the tea relatively big divide on the p. U. C. s plan, on rva, if you will, and some of the other, particularly the nonprofits, with some of the other groups and agencies that have different opinions. Are they still a point of it contention that you are trying to iron out . Absolutely. One of these issues is that the voluntary agreement to the unimpaired flows. Sometimes it will be less than what is in the state plan right now, but we believe that bike on compensating it, would have to have improvements and other measures that we get a far superior outcome than what the state board has proposed. We are having discussions with the state board staff because one of the things that they are trained to figure out is how they value the habitat improvements. They did not do that in phase i. There is not no talk about if you prove that fish can spawner you improve conditions over summer, basically the floodplain habitat, there was no discussion on the part of the state board state board staff. They running some models and in your resolutions. We were urging the state water board to do early peerreviewed of some of the models that they are using so we can see how they are functioning at this point. Right. That is underway. Not quite yet. We are still talking about the board staff and they have issues with the model that they want to run. It is not lining up or conforming to some other model results. It is within the state team that they are trying to iron that out if ironed out this week, we will know which way we are going, in which direction. I should mention that basically we think it is valuable for you to know. That is good to hear. That has been on the table for a while. Yes. I think that would encourage a lot of the people with these processes. Correct. Thank you. Any questioners for him . On the presentation of the Planning Commission, i had hoped that we would be able to adopt a policy about extreme shortages and how the rationing would be under those circumstances. We hoped to have that at the last meeting. Will we have an opportunity to ad t