A number of the african countries that recently asked the United States and its forces to pack up and leave. There hasnt been an official visit to the United States from an African Leaders since 2009. Its been roughly 15 years since ron copper. Im gonna add the red carpet rolled out for him by us president George W Bush present bidens Foreign Policy. It has been a disaster in every continent and africa is no exception. While the russians and chinese are working overtime to all the us from a region that will soon be home to a puerto of the earth, population divided ministration continues to fumble the ball. And we can our nations strategic interest with our african partners that present rudo is also facing problems back in kenya in 2023. The country experience rioting as food and fuel prices were skyrocketing. Its also got Rising National debt. Now hes expected to address the us chamber of commerce and make clear that kenya has homeland is a prime spot for investments. News of the trip back home has been overshadowed by rising anger of about potential tax hikes, as well as corruption and feelings that the government response to flooding the killed a 160. 00 people was mismanaged. Some are less than thrilled about the prospect of canyon involvement. In a hate to even the vacation that they have to cancel it. So i saw the question, but i know the kind of the wheel is the same to you where the problem is, the kind of the government is looking at is the, the interest that people have done the security on me. I dont know the utilization of this deployment, but the existing and the need of um, the thoughts when once i get this deployment of getting it straight away, i get it. I do see that a bit of the season get to the will the environment. Its no secret that africa is drifting closer to russia and china as the world moves toward multi polarity. However, router oh, seems like the kind of leader who is trying to hold onto that old setup. And joe biden has no problem giving him a rainbow tour. What remains to be seen is amid all the lights and handshakes, how well american Mainstream Media will be able to obscure the reality of whats happening on the ground in haiti and back in africa. Caleb mauppin, artsy, new york. Yeah. Okay. Theyve all been dropping off of this. I was live use. Got you anaki international. We do come to you live in the honda, the russian capital. Thanks for sharing your time with us here with the on team on the ship. Were back soon with the the, [000 00 00;00] the hello and welcome to cross stock. Were all things are considered im theater level is widely recognized that they cant be human. Its western batteries are losing the proxy war on russia. In the case of ukraine, it is obvious, bad news begets more bad news to west appears in capable to comprehend is war on rush. It is an utter failure. The crush stuck in ukraine. Im joined by my guess, got rid of in delmar. He is a former Intelligence Officer and the United Nations weapons inspector in San Francisco. We have k, j. Know he is a political analyst and journalist and in washington state. We cross the andre might be on the e as a rider, as well as a military and political analyst. I gentleman called cycles, and in fact, that means you can jump anytime you want. And i always appreciate its got, let me go to you 1st. Here we can talk about maneuvers on the battlefield and the intrigues behind closed doors, what the economist likes to say. But i thought that, you know, tony blinking a rendition of neil youngs uh, a rocking in the new world really says it all. And so, earlier in the day, hes saying, you know, whos supporting you democracy in ukraine where it doesnt exist, or ukraine is an ex president now or holding office, presumably illegally. But he had time to go down to a basement and sing a song that actually has a completely different meaning that its original ones. Ok for me, tony blinking tells us everything we know about this utterly failed proxy war scott as well. We also need to point out that the basement that he performed in the midst of a memorial to the asia. Hawkins mentioned that there, there is movement in everything that represents the reality for this 1st section that the blinking in the American Government have been portrayed. You know, this conflict has always been from its inception a proxy war between ukraine and russia, where the United States and the west used to create a to achieve the strategic defeat of rush. And we can never forget that, that the goals and objectives the United States was, is in, will be until the change of the strategic defeat of russia. And we need to be more specific to that. 9 it means the toppling of the coaching government. It means removing, flattered out, and this was the objective sanctioning russia, it was designed to destroy the russian economy, to collapse the russian economy, and to get the russian people to turn against their government. And then the idea of what your trade was, never to have ukraine when this working great. But they had this war drag on in perpetuity, exhausting rush morally economically, physically and again, trading the last straw, so to speak. That would cause the people of russia to rise up in the might on moment to remove food from power. This was the goal, is the goal. It will continue to be the goal. We should never allow ourselves to lose touch of that reality by looking at whats happening on the battlefield. The battle field is irrelevant to that, frank. And so this is why prisons, i think you see. So youre getting that row of the newly pointed the foreign minister of russia. I say, it looks like were heading to a hot war with the west with United States, because frankly speaking, we are headed to a hot worth between United States and russia. This, United States has not changed its policy framework. We cannot talk about peaceful coexistence so long as were talking about the strategic defeat of russia. Therefore, when you trade loses and they are losing and they will lose United States and europe, were going to have to do something more to continue is because we cant at this point in time except the feet. Because that the failure to strategically to see russia means its a 0 sum game that we ourselves are strategically defeated once now, and thats a craving choice. Scott, thats what makes it even worse. Thats a choice on the part of the west. And today, you get to continue on with what, what scott was saying. Here we, ukraine is asking nato to train them up to the send trainers to ukraine, to train up a 150000 recruits. Thats, is that lensky was i begging for the, the west nato, to put a target on their back. Is nato going to fall for it . I was already doing this in a less space. 3 hours are that is your, those so gold 3 and are the same as the god the somehow of major or has been on the ground and you frame from the day walk. So, i mean, its all this every, to ration oregon organizational, the same old, you know, thing you know, oh god, i sense, you know, some kind of go for the wise, were going to some this and that is being their friend. They want, they just simply because they were on the news side go and they think that the public is primarily because they Attention Span all the got the fuse, they just repeat the rate and reiterate the same point over and over again. To demonstrate that something is being bought, i agree with score absolutely actually will also in terms of the serve is your goal is going to forget with National Security or golf served or the United States strategy old United States or bought the race roster. Theres the if the special ed, i mean, that actually has a bad running hoops left for well then it is the registrar now. So, but yeah its, its good. Its going to continue like this, but the fact that they care targets theyve been killed. Many of them already, so its nothing new. I mean it, it would certainly be a much more public, a bathing processment and thats maybe thats maybe thats acceptable. Okay. Its k j. Its very interesting is we had the estonian prime minister, kyle a call us at a conference over the weekend. Um calling for the break up of russia. Its really quite amazing as you crate and get smaller and smaller, di, populated, di, industrialized, and worse. You have a little tiny country like us. Tony is saying that the natos agenda essentially should be the breakup of russia, echoing with scott just said, go ahead. Youre absolutely right. And you know, this is, this is the fools reward for failure is greater ambition. This is what we see, were seeing a complete failure both in the political dimension, but also in doctrine, not simply on the battlefield in tactical dimension. But in doctrine itself, we seeing a complete failure and a complete breakdown and their response is to bet hi. This is the losing gambler wanting to make an even higher back. Yeah, this is a, a sun cost fallacy. Thats what, thats called. Its got, i, i sense here and i, i dont have any faith whatsoever in the honesty of a anthony blinking. I, i personally think that they are taught theres talk for a pink slippers, zalinski, there could be, they may need a change to be able to change the narrative with these with him. Still they are, its not going to work for me much longer here. And that brings up the blame game, and theres so many different blame games being played right now. Scott, look. So lets each time is on this planet. I shouldnt say, well, im just, but youre saying the truths, god. Okay. Because hes put himself into the position. I want everybody watching this program to know ukraine and its leadership volunteered for this exercise. Volunteer not victims volunteer. He volunteered for this. Got keep going. I mean, i agree wanted for, i just want to make sure that i dont come across as some sort of what theres the, you know, psychopath who wishes the device. Although none of us views of zalinski deserves whatever faith he gets. So, and so does your friends and government they are especially its president i, i believe, is not going to be around as long as were reaching the in game of this conflict. And that doesnt mean the strategic conflict that we are taking later. We have talked about the specific proxy, con, flushing, new cream is engaged state. And so lets people not be the person that termination of this thought rushed to, i cant see the progression, but smart enough leave that when you start from articulating the semester, these was legitimacy. Because this is mandy less than they approachable or they put him on a once in. Ready that means that just that that will excuse no criminal criminal status. And that if you grade once before i didnt because she didnt do the settlement, they will have to find somebody other than zalinski. And the west right now, i believe, is transitioning away from a proxy complicated craig, which they know is lost into the broader strategic conflict between the western russia. Not necessarily a hard conflict, although thats the direction were heading. But a new cold war i believe is the direction that were essentially seeing scott because that lot, but also said that in the last new cycle that and ill direct this to, im today right now is that let me quote him here. Russia wont view western europe as a partner for, again, for at least one generation. I tend to agree with that on why, because nobody in the west is trustworthy. Andre, as well as the data, or because also combine europe is not for player dot com. If you wanted to reset the ball or send the world, this is United States china and roger and paul, this 3 arrange things between them. Thats only a matter of fewer up is in consequential, militarily you economically look alone ga, strongly, socially and politically. So yeah, and in this particular case, what to the restaurant is a couple said, or United States, or rush out bones to interact in some form, be their goals, walk as a score, characters favorite, you know, be the indirect strategies which your body space lots to do you know, in terms of the conflict, but it will be in the direction is um for in terms of you or if there is nothing to talk about to book with cool. You know, theyre not even players. Well, i think they let me get it. Uh, let me go ahead here before we go to the right here. I think were all on the same page here because i think there is a shift going on right now and you need a fall guy. And that guy is, is a lensky. Yeah, absolutely. You know, ive said right from the get go, that zalinski had a very, very short life. He fits into a pattern of us quiz links that are used and discarded, and he should have seen that coming. But i, you know, i said that he was of the eastern european, the d m, that he was not for long in this, in the political arena in this world. And so i think that, you know, the chickens are coming home to roost. Clearly the actor has lost the script and hes no longer able to give the order of the presentation that he was hired to do. And therefore theyre going to bring on another actor. Yeah, and they, and we can discuss that in the next part of the program. If thats going to be a new in the military, because you know, they all know each other, its been a Long Time Coming of a similar education backgrounds and whatnot. So there are a lot of affinities, only this kind of band or i, i, the ology has got in the way field on by the west. All right, gentlemen, im going to jump in here. Were going to go to a short break. And after that short break, well continue our discussion. Thatd be great, and stay with our team, the the, the welcome back across stock were all things are considered computer la belcher menu were discussing ukraine. The. Okay, lets go back to scott, you know, its gotten you and i, on this program weve been talking about the, this entire part of the call like this is a, a conflict has been going on for 10 years and not uh, since 2022 and i think, you know, the, the in another conflict and youll know the reference that im making the day after. Okay. In that conflict, i think its a, its an exercise in futility. But i think the end of this conflict in ukraine, it is more meaningful, and i think its, and theres an interesting debate that is developing here. Because on the one hand, what i would like to see is the complete breakup of, of nato, and the restructuring of security arrangements in europe. Thats probably not going to happen because the west, they will be a sore loser. They will want an ugly piece. Well, wont this the defeat and ukraine actually in bolden, you nato, because now they have a strictly identified target that they want revenge, because nato is, is losing losing badly. And its showing itself to be essentially a paper tiger. But this will give the re, uh, brussels. The reason the you to have a war economy. What you, how do you go on that argument . First of all, we need russia to decide how this works. Good. One of the good point aspect, the Long Distance observer is um, you know, i, andre, and j j you, we can all speculate about how wed like to see this conflict. Yeah. But the russian government has yet to fully articulate what do you not cation the militarization means . What the final delineation of ukraine will be. That is the key because if russia allows a cancerous tumor to remain, then the less job would be to get that cancers to over to grow and to infect russia. Russia has to eliminate the cancer is to but if they do that, i think thats the end of nato and the end of the European Union. Because now, rather than doing the kind of proxy driven conflict that america nato, like to engage in. They will be confronted with the reality of a direct conflict that they cant afford, and they dont fall apart. I believe natos already falling apart. And i believe that russia into this conflict decisively where they terminate the cancerous tumor that is banned. Theres ukraine, that nato will have to pay the bill. I mean, they, they cant afford the military, they claim they want to bill. And when they start to argue about this debate is especially of russia counters with responsible diplomacy, leading towards a European Security framework that is regional and we know the rush. It is reasonable. One only has to look at the stuff will communicate that rush. It was offering your train back in april of 2022. To see the rush is the most reasonable actor out there when it comes to articulating, not only its needs, but the needs of those worded adversary relationship. I think russia is going to put on the table an offer to europe, about peace and prosperity and co existence. That nato, that makes nato of inconceivable when that needle will fall apart on its own volition rush, you wont have to do anything but it. Russia allows it cancers tumor named ukraine, that has some band there is ideology, ideological remnants. The data will just attach to that in a parasite fashion and try and get that to a continued strategic ambition to breaking down, right . So that should be, thats basically the have the same question now directed to our on the right. Thats assuming that we have rational actors in europe. Go ahead on the right. Yeah, thats true. We dont or, and there is one thing which squat dimensions of eric are correctly there. Or if you, for a moment to work, all the European Union is unworkable, is broke. So they can talk about the water going. I mean, what if, what you want, but if you will get down, somebody called the economist isnt a great, especially when you look at the dangerous, theres ation of drawing in, well, theres competing in france for example. Its not just only to be able to be able to be literate towards which they dont, but that mean there may draw it what from turned out to be absolutely unsuitable for the more them are better of you. But its the fact that what you have is your own for manual. And so, so much in building complex in terms of the, uh, the pump it down to labor force and youre using it with the best of all fit for me and speed. So, and in this case, we have this before feature factor, all their different moment framework, which thousands walk financial. Capitalism is a bar, its dom, it doesnt work. So, and the real economy is the only way to go, how they will go, i dont think so they have, god really helped different people because of the implosion. Hold hold. Is it lead to making machine there from, you know, normal the board, your body johnson. If you got a degree in classics, i mean the really to so i mean this is the guy, well, least the better golf has issues. Germans are pretty challenge. You know, so you look at those people, they are going to allow them to me believe in front of my house, for there is nothing coming up that a classical, i cant say it on this program, but he does have a degree in class that goes something ill let the viewers fill in the blank here. Okay, okay. Tell you what the when scott came on right after the beginning of this phase of the conflict, i asked scott the question, whos got the clocks and whos got the time . Whos got the clocks and whos got the time in this case because i find it really kind of frivolous. When you see in western media, it depends on what happens before the november election is if the russians give a quote about american elections, they dont go ahead k j. Yeah, absolutely not. Do you know there is an ideological uniformity which means that it is not going to make a significant difference for them, but youre absolutely right. The multi polar world is rising. These are tech tonic shifts that are happening and they have the time. And the us, it can, you know, fiddle with all the clocks that it wants to. But it is not going to change the direction of time. Time is moving forward. Its moving in the direction of multi polarity and theres nothing that they can do. We see the failure not only of doctrine of war doctrine, no joint all domain um network warfare. But we see the failure of the doctrine that they had, as well as the failure of legitimacy and the end rationality. You know, its got i, we started out the program talking about the of, of who named blinking in, in, during his visit to q. And a number of people have commented on how it was choreographed 3 cameras. All these different angles. But see, thats what american policy is. Its all perception, thats all it is. I mean, my sense was that i saw that footage. Is that blinking is having netflix, make a documentary about him that thats his top priority. Thats the top priority of all of these people. How they look what their legacy is and what boards are going to sit on after this failure. Scott, a 100 percent records say the last american system was because it started of governance. I mean take a little rush. It just, im not here to sing the praises of russia. Its not my job, but you have to give credit. Refresh this, do you just had a president ial election, which was designed to create a mandate that allows the russian government to move in a direction to where the current leader, who is 71 years old. The very key wont be the leader anymore. How does russia survive beyond that . How does russian build institutions become a nation state . That is big picture stuff, that Strategic Thinking that involves the nation. Totally blanking and everybody in the 5 ministration are focused on that. Theyre focused on the revolving door of sitting here from government desinik here. How do i leave the government . Go to getting more, become a active or an associate professor at harvard, yale, columbia. And then hang on for another 4 years in hopes that somebody who is politically aligned with my way of thinking. My philosophies recharged the white house. And i can once again cross through the revolving door, you know, to be back into governmental relevance. But its a very selfish, self centered approach. Wheres the rushing approach is about whats best for the nation . Whats best for the russian people . Whats best for the world . America used to be their country. Were not the country you know under. Im glad that scott brought up uh the president ial election here in the new government thats come into power. And we have a, a new secretary of the, of defense and its very interesting his background. Hes an economist here. It looks like theres a long vision here about how the economy needs to operate with russia. Is new Foreign Policy priorities. And thats basically defending himself against the west. Yeah, bills of a Strategic Bank are many people are the shooting of forget actually the fact that while me fighting the shooting, probably the best think im going to manager. Whats your story . Crossteck avenue, in decades of knowledge in the raisins, and used to belong most of us, the brain behind the, our economic, our strategy in russia. And shell be putting a few in the position of their all man who is in charge or process defense ministry. Would that increase cross as the control of the box . So to sort of manager, industrial companies, we serve gay, shy, was from all of that. So were looking at the cold war. So financial means being transferred there because actually drug each other there in the soviet union to a military, industrial corporate scouts being the driver and not only oversight of military development, but the civilian do. I know my father was in the military Industrial Complex and or she have to deal with the show the consumer needs, apart from what didnt with the issue for providing the roster and saw your maybe with a required sprigs saw this is what we have. And now obviously bill also is a reliable maam, which in the draft team and she is their grades supervisor over those come also of financial means which are being distributed today with all of their formats are modeled if you do armies has been arrest that, you know, they are leaving the office. Yeah. Pretty good. You know, old times of the idea. You know, and that is our option. Its really interesting on the way that you mentioned that because when i heard of the shuffle and what was going on in the ministry of defense, i was thinking the same thing. I, my sense was moving shy, go out because theres going to be a major shakeup of whats going on there because of what the scottish said when what youve said here is that theyre looking long term. Not looking to the next political cycle. Theyre looking at a long term u. K. K j is going to be last 40 seconds. Go ahead. Yes, absolutely. I think what we can see is the us is a capture and by dunning, kroger leads, well not only musically, tone, death, but the tone deaf and they are not capable of seeing beyond, you know, the noses at the same time that the global south is moving in tectonic long term, strategic ways. And this is the final thing that will, were in the end game. We can see the moves ahead and we can see what the outcomes going time. So glad you said that because im sick and tired of talking about how the world has to revolve around the us president ial election cycle. And lets move beyond it and we are, i want it. Thats all the time we have, gentlemen. I want to thank my guess and del mar, in San Francisco and in washington state. And of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our key. See you next time. 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