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Masika of h. C. Isnt it a humanitarian cardboard. The a very welcome to you this saturday morning. This is on the international with the latest world news update is good to have you with us as are with a high ranking German Military offices have been caught red handed discussing plans to supply tourist cruise missiles to ukraine and use them to destroy the climate. And bridge without bomb cellphone conversation was intercepted by russia released by all teas editor in chief on friday. And also this, i came to the conclusion that there are 2 interesting targets on the bridge in the east. And the munition depos above. Originally east is hard to reach, its a rather small target, but the tourist can do with the immunization depos can also be shipped even if we consider the bridge. I dont think taurus is enough and we need to have an idea of how with money for, for the satellite data. You know, i dont know if we can train craniums for such a task in a short time. And were talking about a month the what a tourist attack on the bridge look like it from an operational perspective, i cant estimate how quickly the ukrainians will be able to learn how to plan such an action and how quickly integration will occur. But since were talking about the bridge and the military bases, i understand they want to get them as soon as possible. Well, these are quite astonishing revelations, very. This points to germanys direct involvement in the conflict and ukraine. Something which theyve gone to Great Lengths to deny. Now, as weve heard in the transcript that talking about the destruction, an attack on the crime be embraced. Now this is being a frequent targets of bodies. You crating on it as west and boxes, and germany, or the German Military officials discussed the strategic and military impulse. The importance of such an attack. Now by talking about the tourist missile, this is the, the long range. Miss alda, as theres been some day the ring from the german jones, the phillips over the supply. But if you remember that the german germany has to be pretty much forced into supplying the leper tongues, it came with a great pressure from the United States. And now hes coming under pressure a to supply the tourist me. So theres a lot of explaining to do as we understand that. But the lady has declined to comment on the accusations they used to about sneaking in through po to and so that nobody notices. And so they discuss about how they going to get the missiles into quite nice indeed. They can get themselves into credit of small kinds on those. Yeah. Hot. It doesnt matter. We need to ensure that from the very beginning, there is no mention that would make us top of the conflict like im exaggerating a bit. But if we tell the minister now that we plan meetings and well drive by call from poland and all so that no one notices thats already participation and we wont do that. They talk about the brett, somehow they managed to get the stone shadow. Of course, the british long, wide range resolved into the country, but there was another Interesting Exchange when it comes to the efforts of this associating the german home forces from direct to involved in the conflict is not that they might have had just a moment. I understand what youre talking about. The direct close connection between vehicle and ukraine might concern politicians, which could lead to direct involvement in the ukrainian conflict. In that case, it can be said that Information Exchange will occur through m b, d, yet, and media. And we will send one or 2 of our specialists to for open house experts. Of course, this is kind of what from a political standpoint, it may look different law. You have some of the Information Exchange happens through the manufacturer. Its not related to us. Now weve heard about this attempt to travel a by cost repoed, and so that nobody notices, but they also talk about the Information Exchange in lakeside to this Information Exchange can take place between ukraine and m. B, da. This is the homes manufacturer are responsible for developing the tours me so these could, this could take place at the blue cho advice in germany. This is German Air Force base. But it would take place of technicians that like talk about bringing them in, which would just disassociate the on forces at, for my Information Exchange of the satellite images with which site can be processed at boots on this. This gives the information about targets and the accuracy range of around 3 meters. So this is a kind of information as detailed information that would be needed to carry out a strike on the crime in bridge like token law about the bricks on the storm shadow. It was about how they money to use and inside you crying about they spoke about the mounting on at call, particularly they spoke about the f sixteens. They also in the discussion said, well, this is a slide pro says should show decides. Tomorrow that hes going to send these tours missiles, it will take about 8 months for them to be able to be activated because they require lots of training. The ukrainian falls is dont have the skills to nor such such weapons. And it would take time for them to be trained to do so. They also talk about these, this phase, or perhaps a mistake. If the you find new forces are able to find the tours missed all they talk about a striking kindergarten is now those of us being on the grounds in the dont boss it and they dont yet for public. Ive seen the actually these mistakes are not necessarily mistakes. They seem to happen fairly often. But these, uh, you know, this kind of, this would, i guess disassociate legitimate on forces with um, the direct involved but, but we also heard about possible support on the ground. You know, monday, do you think it is possible to hope that ukraine will be able to do everything on its own . After all, it is known that there are many people there in civilian clothes who speak with an american accent. So it is quite possible that they will soon be able to use it themselves after all, they have all the satellite images so that we heard the use of the term cutting. Now this is an interesting to and then we can be show that the paper on the ground in civilian clothes with american actions on to a new train on site seeing tool. Then you know, then that to uh, to see the science of, of ukraine and as was heading to that, that they could actually help with the deployment of not to tax it with the ultimate, including on the crime. Ambridge stays both in terms of the ukraine conflict. Will these a new weapon supplies really change anything on the ground . Well, thats a great question that an interesting one, because youll see from the conversations that the germany doesnt want to send a with the tourist missiles, ones which indicates that this really isnt about winning. This isnt really about victory and ukraine. And the discussion between the Ministry Leaders shows that its where it is simply just germanys time off to britain, the supplied the storm shadow on phone. So supply discount myself, they actually know the answer from is if you give 50 pieces, they will be used up very quickly. Exactly, but they wont change the course of the work. Thats why we dont want to hand them all over and not all at the same time that may be 50 in the 1st trance. Then maybe there will be another transfer of 50 missiles. Thats perfectly understandable, but its all big politics. Im guessing whats really behind it. I have learned from my french and british colleagues that in fact, with the storm shadow and scouts, it is the same as with the winchester rifles. They may ask, why should we supply the next batch of missiles because we have already supplied the select germany, do it now. Theres now a general acceptance even among western leaders that ukraine is losing that account. Actually, when this conflict weve seen recently the liberation of the advocate, weve seen russian at volunteers along the front line. And of course, this comes off the back of ukraines filed counter offensive, which was back to the hill by the west. And theyve seen a lot of the ministry hold, let go, nothing flames on the bottle. If it was, i may be a, a kind of a reluctance for this continued supply of minute creates a really, this just looks like an attempt to say, face and attempt at unity. They wont look, suffice over certain to face the treatment defense when history is reportedly investigating the explosive lake. Lets just talk. Diplomats like a line for office wait in saying its not all this that nato powers are directly involved in the ukraine conflict. For those of us, some of those villages, i mean this conversation contains several curious things, including a discussion between german general so on how to more cunningly supply ukraine. By splitting the long range weapons to attract, try me in fridge and, and munitions depos a as well as how to remain unnoticed while doing so. Because the chancellor schultz. Good. Supposedly it doesnt like that stuff. Yep. The americans and the brits are already there for 2 years at our house. There was also a conversation about whether it was possible to remotely aim those missiles beyond ukraine. But since youre one of the general subjected to that idea of saying that such a step would mean theyre directed by participation. So they clearly understand what they are talking about. And one of the exchanges, someone says lovely, that there are americans in civilian clothing on the ground boots. And so its obvious that our nato colleagues have a finger and apply me of it. If i dont know how they will explain this into the public at the finish doing this. Yeah. Theyre supposed to come and say its nice. I was clearly trying to conceal phase of guessing deep involved in ukraine for this discussion is very interesting because they not only reveal their intentions of germany or attacking see really on a huge series on target like crime, me and breach. But they also reveal in these discussions that the britain and france is deeply involved in the previous attacks and how they are playing those out. I think to do this, this discussion reveals lots of details how complicated this operation is, how the greeks are. Oh, you know, the after of the song monday meeting, you know, in prairies we have seen a tendency that they are spreading now amongst the nature and European Union leaders. These idea that when you are not afraid that we are, we are not afraid. But when you look at these discussion, which has been recorded just before each for fear its p o, o hesitation and where you know, the, how the, the leaders being that theres a whole day kind of get cold over, just like a small childrens play. And now they are boosting themselves with the statements and its like uh, the previous president. And theres tony and prime minister. We are not afraid. We are ready to do everything. But the model macro mass will also only take a german officer, said the tourist missiles could destroy the crime in which is the launch from french fine to just do a political analyst on a vi snakes, but 0. The largest as ukraine cannot use such as loans weapons without and they so or today, no one can tell if i can, i dont know myself even as a buyer, myself, if that messiah can be used with that, thats what i find it. We know that it can be used with f, a t f 15, some great on your type one. If germany was to provide those besides to ukraine to ukrainians at your premiums, they do not have the capability to use those besides 1st, the make 29 needs to be rich for you to, to use those besides and the a point, any way required be out of the people who has the knowledge. So once again, when you have new system appearing on a battlefield that are directly operational mistakes, its not the finance that are behind which people we have the knowledge like with the battery of systems like me, with the iris peace system. Making mistakes from the very beginning. We know that the french has a special forces diluted into ukraine as well as the u. K. And gemini, also, thats not something that is known. Were just being to your opinion on United States and need to. Thats all were just puppets. Berlin has not yet given any official statements since the audio tape was published on fridays alternative to in chase. Margarita simon yon was the 1st to reveal the contents of the bull michelle conversation. No doubt you gaudy to someone to see that this audio recording speaks for itself. Just after i published the 1st text about it, there were a lot of skeptics and Media Outlets called me and wrote to me saying it couldnt be too. But it is the issue of the real order for the German Military officers looked into the air force and discussing how to go on pressure, reached the crimea, and how many miss also 2010 or 20. And how to do so that no one is aware of anything. So the chancellor shoulds good continue to claim that she is not involved into counseling. And unaided does not participate in the conflict. And that its not into a backyard. This also exposed at british Line American paul to saying that already working in ukraine as in general, theyre all lots of interested in stay in cities and be sure to listen. I wonder how that humans will respond to it will fix it. I sure introduce new customers as we did the gym and media suggest the leak have been verified. As all sudden sit down is now being investigated sizing the sources in the military. Because according to leading outlets like this big old build, they also say the leak is being heavily suppressed by the gym and also as hes on social media in the countries in the power, in case of damage control Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesman marias a, however, has quoted another attempt to conceal the truth. Its called covering your tracks. Is this going to follow the same scenario as the jim an investigation of the terrorist attacks on the node streams . German citizens should know from schultz about the rights of a foreign person in russia, bella, ruse, or china, but not about the german rights. Keep in mind for turn it down because i like stays there was simply no space for opposing narratives. All speech in the west. I think the silence is a said, or the silence is an acknowledgement that that week is real. Im sure theyre going to try to sweep this under the rug. But again, the, the, the, the evidence is mounting of whats happening. That again, the west is, is, is actively a war with the rush. I mean thats, thats what all the shows. And again, theyre gonna try to ignore these facts. Theyre gonna try to suppress them. Theyre going to try to ignore them. But you know, its a reality, it and the people of the west need to know that they need to know that they are governments or, or russia. I think most people in the west dont want that for. So they better know that thats where their tax dollars go. I guess theres freedom of speech thats not threatening to the government, but does it reveal anything, but you know, speech that reveals the troops is surprised. There is no freedom for that kind of speech. Thats very clear. The palestinian officials half times rushed to the full hosting of summits between representatives of gauze on the west bank in most good. Its the most inclusive sit down between the functions since the outbreak of the war. Following the 1st round of talks on thursday, the palestinians said they agreed to pursue unity of action and confronting, as well as discuss this. But the less the cost to all guest and now the leader of the Palestinian National initiative, political policy was stuff as a gucci whos also here in mosca. Many thanks for joining the program this mornings up. First of all, what details can you share with us about these land model negotiations they saw um, what are your expectations for the ongoing talks as well as a matter of fact the, the results of these negotiations came out better than we expected. If thats the one, this is the fed meeting that we ever had between or palestinian political groups since the broke out of the war. On the 7th of october, what we found is the various thrown unity in uh, trying to achieve city immediate because the fed, as the goal, is to stop this database attack or visit, or on gaza, to have a complete stedman to cease fire. Second, to make sure that the seas on doesnt population, the civilian population can be broken and that the supplies can reach the people of garza and said that there should be an initiation of a political process that ends the is that a new patient allows for the exchange of presenters and the eventually get to the point of peace and justice. But so far we are all the 5 above the fact that theres an area that has good. So 557000 palestinians. If we include those on the boat, including no less than 12000. 00 children and they have in just more than 70000. 00 people, its just beyond description. And the most recent fact, which was very aggressive when people who are starving in gaza. But i think to get some Food Supplies, do it at that mode. 114 was killed in one opportunity bombardment and 760 inches in one hour. Thats that is very horrifying that the test to stop. And we believe that unity you could tell us, get to that point. Absolutely. Whats your assessment of most goes wellness post on the media to for these tools. It was the statement of the meetings that came out by the 14 globes. I appreciate that very much. The most go on that i show them and that i suddenly the ship and providing the venue and the preparing for this meeting. And we really appreciate that. You know, this is a beginning of our process and maybe several other meetings would have to follow. Because we want to reach a point of the creation of island inside kinda split into that ship a National Consensus or my son, or do anything government, hopefully, that will not allow separation of guys that from west bank. Good. I sure as being very strong and it stands on very clear that that supports that its of the listed young people to be free from look your patient to have that on independent the state, the as the key to the fees folders i use and, and the visa, injustice, and the reason we especially appreciated the fact that the nation has provided every opportunity for the success of this meeting, which was quite successful in front of you to watch some others have expected items. Okay, is there any optimism that especially folks can also help from the 2 state solution as it means to resolve the conflict . Can you repeat the question, please . I said, is that optimism that such talks could help promote a 2 state solution . Of course, because if we are unified, we have a stronger. If we are unified, we will not allow this is early aggression to continue. And if that happens, if, if this are going to send this stop, then this will open the word for a peaceful dissolution. What we want is peace for 3. Want is just this, but what we want also is our to feed them 57 years of committed 30, okay. Patient is more than anybody can sustain and 75 years of ethnic cleansing. Go 1st thing and it has to stop that ought to be used as a cliff. But not that, you know, it doesnt swans up and we all know that. How do you want to see what it has balance of the situation in the directions that 301 visa and just how someone all day that well was where they need is all direct talks between palestine and as well to end the situation that we have is devastating situation and garza, whats your take on that . Us . Why do we have had those sort of 31 years . Nothing came out because that is an early site doesnt want to end occupation. And the nothing you know, whole blocked at all negotiations for the last 14 years on the palestinians. We had a very keen on having negotiations. So the question here is, as long as nathaniel and his specialist, the government that empowered like some of them to send being via as long as they continue to declare that there is no place for the listing and states that would be not these. These thoughts with them accepting us as equal human beings with them, accepting us and accepting the nation of rights in any equipment of the sofa to this government is absolutely extreme. It was right to book every up 2nd, but they cannot plus whatever. And this circuit isnt, cannot continue or whatever. Thats why they need to find us getting us. The data is very important because its fixed with that argument that nothing you know, keeps saying which is that there is no 1st thing on the that is, that can represent on by this thing is. So there we are unified with a very clear to plan and we insist on creating guys under 5. But as did you have to do this with a high ranking officials from countries like the us, the egypt on time. So theyve been talking about the up another postables these 5 weeks. Now, why do you think these folks are taking so long to bring about any results to the man, but to blame here is besides, is it elizabeth United States of america . Mister by then has bluffed every possibility for us these 5 so far he used vito bought 4 times in the United Nations security council. 156. 00 countries of the world voted for immediate impediment on ceasefire. 13 members of the security council, including the restaurant, voted for that its only the United States so that its still looking good and look into that possibility of stopping this, that have been lost as a slice. That does happen. And thats why i think motor position has to be exercised. Ones like United States of america to ask is what it is to stop this that have been what . Because without the american aids, without the american woodlands, without that many conclusions is that i cannot continue with this aggravation. Meanwhile, with being absolutely horrific, suffering, death and destruction every single day in dogs and more than a 100 were killed recently. And most being called a massacre of h seek is a 0 solving people tried to get food and does it say what, what do you think it is wells . And the goal is the goal of isabel is very clear. And its, its an a cleansing eh, genocide and the it and moving palestinians out by this time, this is what they declare and the sofa they are using the city, a city that have been water instruments that are using boom vitamins, which as i said, getting more than 37000 people so far more than 4. 5 percent of the population. These guys are already killed or injured. They are using that method. The son got by sees it at 700000 palestinians. Now starving, many have ordered the stuff to death. And the fed, the, they are using the diseases because they put the situation in the heart of the situation and we have out to political, serious diseases. Like if i typed this 710000 palestinians, ive sick them out. And as a this has to stop and the stomach is what its through. It means that the government and sees fired and they move into that. Is there any seas on garza and that the end of the day, you know, the so what would be the ad without is it an indian gets occupational no piece would be there without . Does that. And then good system of upside and discrimination against ballasting and people the, the fights and administration, they might be re towing these, these bias. But it, it is saying is going to add 12 agents, a garza and built some a charity group. However, so hes, this is simply an asset to as to what was the guilty consequences of us officials. What do you make of that statements and the american efforts with a so stop. And its actually a very silly statement. Why do you, do you need to use added that up when, when you can use the simple roads, is it is blocked into the techs. And the night to states is not putting enough efforts to pressure to is it or, and to remove the siege. Thats that needs 1000 fedex every day of supplies. What they allow is only 56. 00 that the next day and the added drugs would not solve the problem. The only way to stop the problem to remove the hunger, to end this division is that people to in the diseases is to allow 3 passage to guys to end the seas on gaza. United states and those that very well. And i think they have to think about the bumps only as a cover for. Busy the fact that dad had been visiting and supporting visited and it sees its bombardment and its a tax on the student. Thank you so much for speaking to us today. Um, we do have this hard and sooner rather than later, that was the leader of the Palestinian National initiatives. Political policy was stuff is looking to see many thanks. Thank you. Okay, well as it goes federal goes and now where are the 17 people are reported . Dead and thousands more wounded and it is really strong on the city of the law and the other layer of refugees have. The surviving victims were rushed to the nearby. Ill ask the hospital, thats the media report that the radio full was carried out. The tax on 3 residential buildings. Okay. How many people might still be trapped onto the russell . The series of flags comes off to a devastating idea selves in a crowd that was rushing to receive Food Supplies in dogs. And since he owns those, say, more than 100 id seek is where were supposed to be killed, although as well, has denied this involvement of a 1000 people. What allegedly rushing for humanitarian supplies when the incident occurred. Distressing fluctuates from the scene, shows terrified people running away as an id. As time approaches palestinian officials have cooled, the attack and outrages masika. Some of the survivors showed that emotional recollections we went to collect the h like normal people, then the tank showed up and that struck us as the tact in front of them out. The rental was next to the car and fell on the ground that the young boy came with me and we escaped to another quick at the temple showing us we got charged by 2 bullets. One of the hands of the young was blown away. The other boy penetrated along with capt cole and fell on the ground. Some people went across the wide road, others escaped to the north east. Really army brutalize this find to gas for the fluids or the planes rated on so using all forms of killing, they even show the google fuse warm and themselves and why apply or to return to the to body parts. So people who are the maximum, what are some of the show king. So to chase, showing a pile of bodies at the scene, at least a 115. 00 were reportedly killed. And more than 760 wounded this with by its with me to read to us, come all as one hospital which admitted the wounded on thursday. He strongly believes that was a little attack list of the wounded people who arrived and come on odd one hospital had directed injuries from gun fire. All the injuries targeted the parts of the bodies of those killed and injured. And this can reflect that the intention is to kill, not just the cause injuries. I saw some farming videos and heard some of the stories of injured people in the hospital. They were saying that the is rarely army was directly targeting them. These use were targeted as they were heading to a place. They go every day to get some flower. Why did come fire break out today . It is very obvious that the goal was to kill people and i consider this a trap. They did not intend to drive people away, but to kill them. But the is right. The military has released this ariel so to drove the incident that appears to show a huge crowd surrounding a monetary and a convoy. The idea is came that troops opened to sign on a small group. They saw as a threats, but cannot confirm the death toll. These waves also claim some h seek, has died in the sam page of locals, political analysts, while each siam saves the images from the sea, not truly contradict the as well statements. They say it is worth trying to provide any evidence to distract and throw smoke in the eyes of a, at the end, the eyes of the world. And unfortunately, it does then that the evidence they should and thats for the edge on the pools, is that what happens was a massacre. Because according to the foot this shit and there was no danger to impose or