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Documents that are made against her and the with miss m instead of government. The secretary has also faced a few reasons sustained, a backlash from United Nations High Commission on refugees with delegates rebuking hi, and questioning how motivation in skin and vis, you know, the boy see these and just and discriminate to read proposal. So the comments of the High Commissioner of one to, to the united kingdom, up high ballistics, just at the back of off of the gravely calling for reforms of the global migration system. Morning. Indeed, as youve just mentioned, that thats controlled migration was and is essential, challenge it to be some countries. This is the fad for radians, global usaa policies is a topic of the modus operandi. I met with him in the time and well be back in about 30 minutes a to west as a nancy problem and its just not in canada. The west has a long history protecting mount these 10 demonizing, all things russian. The west is attempting to rewrite history, also a single mouth and the New York Times tells us everything we need to know about the west losing proxy more. The hello, im in, know a chan. You are tuned into modus operandi, and theyre here and they have been, if you listen to what one Us Air Force Veteran told congress aliens, you oppose you a peas, extra terrestrial life, whatever you want to call it. The world is fascinated at the prospect of visitors from beyond earth. Tonight well talk to the world meeting astrophysicist about his latest findings in the ocean that might corroborate the existence of them. All right, lets get into the m o. The all through written history. There has been sightings in heaven while modern science can now explain some of these aerial phenomena. What about the many reports from around the world that have no technological explanation and further with some of the biggest economies in the world, come a variation of a u. F o task force assigned to it. Does the sheer existence of these governmental groups around the world mean these governments know something the public does it. So here to discuss, the latest developments in the cosmos is the foremost expert in astro physics. The professor at Harvard University director of the institute for theory and computation, the head of the gal, a later galileo project. His newest book is out now its called interstellar, dr. All the low is with us dr. Low such a pleasure to have you 1st. Can you explain for us the purpose of your recent c expedition near matters island . What you found there, and what this means in the greater context of evidence that there is life beyond or on january 8th, 2014, the Us Government. The identified far board from and meet your an object thats correlated with that and explode is about the 22. 00, all of this over the Pacific Ocean. And then what was special about these meet yours is that it was moving very fast relative to the sun. In fact, it was moving outside the solar system. 1 the 95 percent before the stars, its 6 the keys on that this the 2nd. And that implied that these inputs that are in origin that they came from outside the solar system. The 1st subject recognize this, such from 2015, almost a decade ago in the Us Government. Besides the confirming the, this, the origin. They also provide the information data about the firewall that allows me in my undergraduate students. Im use your are being fair that these meet your was tougher than on space rocks recorded by nasa over the past decade, 272 of them. So not only was the fast, it was also tough material strength. And thats raise the possibility that maybe its like voyager thats we launched out of the solar system and that, that will potentially collide with another planet, you know, a few 1000000000 years. So maybe its a spacecraft. So to find out, i lead an expedition to the Pacific Ocean at the location of the meet your path. And then the idea of was to search the ocean floor for any remnants, any fragments, as pharaohs most the droplets from the surface of the object. When it was exposed to the mens heat from the 5 or a few percent of the hiroshima totemic ball released into 500 kilograms of matter. And we rented the ship a few things because the silver star. And we collected a sled that we built up with magnets on both sides through a cable for the ship, and we drag the sled on the ocean floor back and forth along. Thank you, along with those in length. And we did it 26. 00 times. And amazingly, we recover those more than droplets that are less than a medium, either in size. Uh they were concentrated along the expect to meet your path. And then they appear to be mostly circling shape very distinct from volcanic ash that was much more abundant. But we also collected with our magnets, and by now we have 727 such as pharaohs. These metallic marbles less than a medium, either in size, each of which weighs less than a milligram. And then we are examining their composition. The significance is that its the 1st time that humans put their hands on the materials, often large object, bigger than half a meter that came from outside the solar system. We are trying to find out whether the composition of these pharaohs is of materials that came from outside the solar system. Thats the 1st question. And the 2nd question is whether it was already fish calling origin. Just imagine the was the voyager being melted, so the droplets that would result from that would be very different from the droplets from an iraq. And the same is true for and melting semi conduct or super and as well as the computer screens. So we can in principle, tell the difference between a technologically manufactured device and a role. And we hope to find the answer in the coming weeks. So ive seen a recent analysis of various u. F. O sightings from around the world. Uh, based on the number of reports in the 20th century, up until now ill call it a heat map for lack of better description. But it seems you a p sightings, or these reports at least come from all over the world. But the greatest concert ration of those reports seem to come from English Speaking nations. Any hypothesis on what, why this might be well and then defied . No, one of those phenomena are probably a mixed bag, and most of the events are likely to be related to balloons. Or drones, and these might be identified in a highly populated regions where people look at the sky a lot. And so up the 1st the a correlation. This one finds is with the population density. And we see per month or in the sky. And that is true of family, 30 person as well, of the reasons that are towards the most of the ones that have the highest number of faults. And so we should factor the so, but as of now we dont know if there is any clustering off and then defied phenomena because then we are, they were all that make adult on people by chance. Happened to be at the right place at the right time to ne, an object that cannot be identified. And much better approaches a systematic search across the entire sky and over time. And thats what we are doing in the gallery. No projects weve built in observatory the money source of the sky, 247 in the infrared in the off because then you read your and in all of your and from that we can infer the background how many objects that, that have explanations like birds, drones balloons, airplanes. How many of those costs that you the background, and whether there is anything that appears to be unusual. And if there is, we can figure out this that this, these how rhetoric is read, i think through the background. This is the same different way of studying, unidentified phenomena and then as of now, it was never followed. And so they got a, you know, project is charging new grounds and we have one working observatory. But we plan to make more copies of faith. And of course, we will analyze the data using the machine, learning Artificial Intelligence this software to make it also made its way that the file objects based on computer auditory things. Now in recent years, reports from so called whistle blowers, or former government officials or even military had begun to surface. There had been congressional hearings over these claims recently. For example, a former Us Air Force Intelligence officer called david gresh. He recently testified to having seen evidence of you a piece and asserted that the Us Government was covering it up. He went as far as saying, the pencil gone has recovered quote, non human biologics. And it is real high. And it should, the former head of the is really the defense ministry, the space director at their, he said publicly in 2020. He said this quote, there is an agreement between the Us Government and aliens. They signed a contract with us to do experiments. Here a shed is effective. We say extra terrestrial life exist, and they have made contact with humans. Now, as of yet nobody, no government has ever produced any concrete evidence to back these claims. You study the cosmos. How do you interpret all these revelations as a site is the i am guided by evidence and as of now we havent seen convincing evidence. Indeed the coming from governments that we see fuzzy image is not the most convincing. Its quite possible that there is classified data that is far more convincing because the governments money for this guy, for National Security purposes, and they would be the 1st not these things with our new truck astronomer assigned is, are focused on smaller regions of the sky. If any given time and they look very far away, if this funds forces, so they, you, nor anything near earth. And so its quite possible the Us Government would be the 1st of all this, some unusual or phenomenon and also retrieve materials from them. But we havent seen that the evidence and the question is, does it exist . And david ross says it does. And he spoke with 40 people that were involved in programs and for a tribute and reverse engineering of these materials, according to him, a fed alien spacecraft. Uh and uh he uh, was asked to provide Contact Details for those people if he knows what are involved, then he promised to give them to representatives into us congress. And thats all for us to pass for the in the sense that they can go to these contacts and figure out what lies behind his claims. And if we dont hear anything within a year, we would know that there were fabricated as far as if we do. If there is anything behind them is there is any fire behind the floats. We will find out soon enough within the coming year. And of course is assigned these. I dont rely on the government for information about their state or space. I would like to collect my own evidence, the skies not classified the ocean, so not testified. Thats why i need to go to no project where we are hoping to find Scientific Data that will tell us whether unidentified numbers, phenomena exist, and the expectation that we have to that must be causing as an example of an attempt to collect materials from an unusual object thats collided with their yes, that is true. Good point. Nobody owns space. All right, coming up next. Governments around the world. Say they exist, but they wont quite say they dont either. So they have task forces setup to monitor. Well discuss it when we return with dr. Ivy low. Keep it right here in the m a. Well be right back. The the the the a small this invest a bulk no issue. But for the mobile, when you go annual g d, p per capita, it was about 4000. 00 euros. The color and a mobile watch here, the sleep of man, i got near upon the cost of the ceiling from where this really into total so just letting them all the classes nature level of thought the the single, the thought of unemployment is off the charts time all the of us territorial integrity insolvency. We respect the country which enjoys Financial Support from the us. N. B u is constantly ross by political and corruption scandals but older students dont mobile obtaining a candidate status in 2022. The welcome back to the m. O. Im in l. A chance, its a he said she said, or in this case, civilian say one thing and the government says another. So without a Firm Admission that aliens have come to earth, places like the u. S. And china have create a task forces to surveil the skies and investigate alleged sightings. Meanwhile, cynics, a. All of this is merely a distraction for government failures all around the globe. A dr. Ivy low astro physicist and author of the new book. Interstellar is back with us. Thank you for sticking around, dr. Low. So while governments around the world dont outright knowledge, even the potential existence of extra terrestrial life, they wont go as far as creating these task forces to address ariel phenomenon. And when the us, we have the new a task force in china, they have whats called an identified air conditions, team made up of both military and civilian sources, france, russia, the aforementioned as railways, and many other nations. The fact that these task forces even exist is that a soft or tacit admission in some way that the aliens might be out there. And do they pose a risk to National Security. Governments are interested the National Security and thats why they have these task forces to figure out whether these unusual objects that they might be seeing or hearing reports about represent technologies the adversaries. And it was this that these, their main motivation, the governments are not scientific organizations, they cannot help us interpret the devices that come from interstellar space. And by the way, these devices, if they come from far away from thousands of light years away, they dont care how we split the land on this rock that we happen to be born on the earth. Its completely irrelevant from a distance. And so its mostly a matter of National Security, whats left or any visiting probes for romance. This done civilizations should be scientific knowledge that the shed by all humans on earth. And then therefore, if governments do possess some information or materials that represent the somebody has came from outside the solar system, they should provide those details to scientists who can make sense of these materials. And then obviously it wouldnt be of great importance for the future of humanity because we, we know that we have neighbors, you know, our caustic environment. It may change our behavior. If you think about living in a family that feels isolated and going out to the back yard and then suddenly noticing a tiny sport that was thrown by a neighbor, it doesnt make sense to hide that information from your family members. You want them to know that they have a neighbor because they might choose to close the curtains on the windows for privacy reasons, all the time i choose to go out of the home and visit those neighbors and perhaps land insights from them. But its any event, there might be a time when these neighbors, we knock on your front door or are affect your home. And so you really want to know in which neighborhood you live in. Well, what do you have as your neighbors . That is scientific knowledge that is similar to knowing that the earth moves around the sun. If you ever want to go to mars, you bet the recognize that because otherwise, your spacecraft will never reach the destination are if you thing, but march or beach the earth if you have some unrealistic view that the earth is at the center of the universe and thinking that we are the small office that ever existed since the bean bag is steaming, are in a way of thinking that we are the center of the unit. Thats now were going back to your madness island expedition. I knew the spirituals. You and your team recovered, they are currently out at labs right now. But if the lab findings indeed turn up that these, these spears came from outside our solar system, or perhaps even artificial or manufactured, meaning they were, they were made some how not that you or your team created them. Could this be something that would trigger governments around the world to begin crafting policy on how to address alien life forms like a, a Geneva Convention for a t . If we do have convincing evidence based on materials that indeed we are not that long, and that there is a small or cheat on our quotes, sneak block, it will be time for us to sing more broadly about how we behave and we might develop a straight sions for space because its someone that arrived at our front door. We better think about arriving at their front door and learning more about their whereabouts. And it really depends on what we find. If we find a functioning digits, we can learn how its works. It will be like having a glimpse of our technological future in case the centers are far more advanced than we are. Uh, it could involve the Artificial Intelligence if the level of the far exceeds what we have at this moment. But its even space trash would educate us about the abundance of such shit objects and how, how Many Solutions may have exist is around us. And altogether, if we change the way we behave and i called for the better, because it makes little sense for us to fight with each other. Add to miss yates wars, to wait, Waste Resources on military budgets. When there is a much more advanced neighbor far away, that they could be just something about space. And i think altogether, if we change that, not only our perceptions above our place in the universe, our religious beliefs, both positively but also world politics. And i hope that it would bring it to a better place where given the global perspective, given the fact that we realize that in space there, there are more things, more real estate, more exciting developments than here on of the we, we are Work Together because we are all equal members of the human species. Were all in the same boat. The both is the earth moving through space as the ocean of space. And i got to realize that when i was on the ship on the boat in the Pacific Ocean where all the members of the team Work Together for a successful mission. And so if we realize that the up is a both and we are all in the same boat and there is someone else out there and we might want to visit that someone and it would give us a sense of being in the same boat. Its in working together. Lastly, a philosophical question for you. There are a number of scientists in your field who have receded your findings thus far, even rebuking you personally. But there are late persons all around the world too, who also absolutely rule out even the idea that there is life beyond earth much less intelligent life. And there are others who absolutely believe they exist. And then there are people like me who are simply open to the idea, but arent convinced one way or the other at this point. So regardless of what campus they fall in, humans all around the world are fascinated with the idea that aliens exist. We make movies about them, we write books about them and so forth. Why are we obsessed with this idea . Human so fascinated by the possibility that we might have a partner out there because it would change our life and give us a different perspective about our existence. Its just like finding a partner in your private life. It changes your life and then uh, is assisting or arguing that we have no partner just by standing at home and saying, there is nobody else out there. Where is that everybody to wait and reconfirm the physicist us . Well, the truth is that to find others, you need to go to dating sites. At the very least, you need to look for your window is any better use of penis call or you go out to your back yard and search for any objects that came from the street. That might indicate that there are others out there just sitting at home and claiming worries. Everybody is not the right approach. And thats what we have been doing over the past the 70 years since and rigs there me ask the question, where is everybody . We are waiting for a phone call looking for radio signals that they might, might have transmitted in our direction. But for the thought, you need them to be active. Why your waiting . However, if they send packages that are in our mailbox in our backyard, we can find them irrespective of whether our sensors are still alive. And thats a completely different method for this im practicing right now as of now. And of course, you know, to get the barrels from the expedition took a few days for fedex and to deliver them to my home doorstep. But i realized that they took them and, and perhaps medias or females appears to arrive to earth and then it just gives you a different sense on, on your place if you figure this out. Now my point is that its not odds are of opinion because we are talking about material evidence the way physics works. So people can have opinions, but eventually we should be guided by the evidence and its possible for us to connect its people often say extraordinary claims require x on any evidence and they dont 6 the evidence. Thats why to separate our argument. But the key is that extra, all these are you evidence requires extra all the and already funding. And when such funding would be located the search, you know, there is a chance we would find a low hanging fruit and thats exactly what im engaged in right now. Because people didnt do the search for objects in our backyard, them to, they got a little project was announced, and im glad to say that we already collected some of the rails and we are now studying them. So hopefully within the coming months, were going to know more and it may well be that its easier to find what lies in interstellar space at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Then it is to get it from politicians in washington dc. Dr. Ave low professor at Harvard University director of the institute for theory and computation head of the galileo project. Check out his newest book called interstellar, its out now. Thank you so much, abby. Alrighty. Usually this program aims to answer questions or fill in the gaps on the topics that we cover. But when it comes to this, i dont know, i may actually have more questions now that i did before we began. So well keep watching as the decades old debate continues. 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