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Her husband. Prosecutors say she plotted his death with her boyfriend demonstrations to promote her execution were organized. Her children did everything they could to save her life. We want, i also know that were still fighting 2. 00 your face. This is not over. Theres a reason that we didnt get to see her today and hopefully that stuff as were going to see her again. This weekend that they even pope francis cloud, her case against him down or was it hard . Her final words were broadcast on t. V. And on the radio hosts, why this should go unnoticed. So shes going to out on september 30th, 2015 at 12. 21 am or was executed. She was 47 years old. And the United States, out of the 2843 inmates on death row, 54 are women. They are incarcerated in 16 different states across the country. And were granted permission to interview 3 of them. Have been on death row for over 15 years in the county. Shawna forde has been charged with the most unspeakable crimes violent acts that resulted in a death that claimed the life of a young girl and her father, black, white, or hispanic. They all have a troubled past in common, makes with drugs, sexual abuse and extreme violence. These 3 prisoners are considered among the most dangerous in the country. They live in solitary confinement, contact with their fellow prisoners for better, and their families denounced these terrible conditions. The lawyers fight day and night to delay their executions in the this is from this is the police, the some are convinced of their innocence. I did shut up. I was not on the box chiles Court Appointed lawyers, and scripture was judges and prosecutors. The families believe that the deck was stacked against that. Anybody that set that trial at my sisters trial was a circus that was just awful. Even when theyre proven and the sentence, the nightmare continues to. This is the unknown world of 4 men on death row. Used in texas, the city was the scene of a strange and atrocious crime, child kidnapping and homicide. That led to the arrest of this 43 year old woman lived in a poor neighborhood known for drug trafficking. And her mom had just moved to the United States from mexico. They just had a baby 2 days earlier. Is believed to have devised the plot to steal their baby. On may 16th 2001, and the middle of the night, the couples home was stormed by 3 armed men. Young parents were gagged and beat. The men searched the house from top to bottom. Had made them believe that a large amount of drugs were in the couples home. In exchange, they had to deliver the mother and the newborn 40 hours later was found dead in the trunk of a car. The infant was safe and sound. The car belonged in her hotel room. Baby items were found. She had even made her neighbors believe she was pregnant. She denied everything to the police. And if you told him, if you told anyone as having a bag and get in the baby and not have a days, you havent told anybody that i said i have been having a baby. I didnt say im a baby in life by in a baby. I feel in a baby thats not what i thought and i can have a baby if i want to have a baby that are going to cry big, you may i dont even got me a favor from adam. Now im getting fat. All everybody is trying to put the model, the 5 words in my car. Theyve got the guy and theyve got you. The evidence was overwhelming. For a kidnapping and murder in texas would have been executed, had not been fighting for years to get her a new trial for the states. For 16 years, they spent more than 4000000. 00 trying to prove she did not receive this hold. So this would have been the original police which became one of the biggest pieces of evidence we had in the morning because this was the police report, the video of the key, the one who did it all being interviewed by the police when he was 1st and telling the story completely different than what he told it. And so this is trying to prove that prosecutors tempered with evidence and as a district attorneys that handled this case, they withheld evidence. The witnesses reported they were bullied into saying certain things and not saying certain things. And then we started hearing this independently, the witnesses independently with the same story. It all came into focus. The jury was misled by the district attorneys and there was no fair trial. Why was the prosecution in seeking the Death Penalty when considering the evidence in the car, he would have certainly been sentenced to life in texas, especially to win elections. You have to be seen as being someone strong, someone strong on crime is important. And so if you have a judge that lets criminals loose or criminals, when the opponents will come in and say, this judge is weak on crime and they lose that card. He sentenced to death in the border for the prosecutor to win an election. No, no. The ones that admitted doing this, the ones that admitted putting your in the truck, the ones to admitted leaving her in the trunk for 8 hours in the texas heat. They all struck deals that the d. A. s went to them and told them, you either testify this way or youll get the Death Penalty. The men got sentences ranging from 15 to 45 years in prison, continues to deny any involvement. Her only hope is to get a new trial, but all of her appeals have been systematically rejected. For 16 years, she has been on death row in gainesville, a city lost in the countryside, surrounded by 6 prisons for women. Nearly 7700, detainees are locked up here among them 6 we were granted permission to meet lynda carter with a strict agreement with her lawyer. Not to speak about her case as 60 minute interview with a woman considered to be one of the most dangerous in the United States. So how worried here . Thank you for accepting the answer here. Welcome. This pressure to be how has your life, your moments up and down and it depends on the status of your appeal because you could be quite euphoric at some times. And then all of a sudden you could be in that valley. You know, when that case is denied, every time i talk about that i want to cry because its difficult shouldering its for me in particular, if i had done the crime, i would have accepted my fate. But because i know that im not guilty, its hard. Its hard dealing with it and i try, i try to put it on the back, but im not think about it because i dont want to be another step to stick the Mental Health department. And i need to be able to stay strong so that in the process of having my investigators and my attorneys and my daughter and my friends helping me to clear my name, that i will become a burden for anyone. For the rest of my life was a pandemic. No, certainly no borders, just blind to nationalities. We dont know, mary says this system things we can do better, we should be doing everyone is contributing. But we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. The challenge is quick to respond so many good people are helping us. It makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. During the vietnam war, u. S. Forces also bomb to neighboring laos. It was a secret war. And for years, the American People did not know how much it is the mouth, can rebound country per capita, all human history. Millions of unexploded bombs still in danger. Lives in this Small Agricultural country, jordyn. We dont know how its happening. Even today, kids in laos full victims of bombs dropped decades ago is the us making amends for the tragedy in laos. Help to the people need in that little land of mines kind of financial for the on the job. Money laundering 1st to visit this 3 different. Oh good. This is a good start. Well, we have our 3 banks all set up here. Maybe something in your something in america, something overseas. A good thing, an island to do. All these banks are complicit in the kleptocracy. We just have to deal with them or need to do some serious Money Laundering. Ok, lets see how we did while weve got a nice luxury watch for max and for stacy own beautiful jewelry. And how about again, for a match, you know, what Money Laundering is highly much keyser of course, are the times where you cant do shit anymore. I have a daughter that i would really love. I truly love. Its. This place is enough of a burden for her soul. For me to try to commit suicide or give up or anything. I feel as though i would fail my child. She said she has 2 boys. I have 2 grandsons. I didnt have met one, you know, because were not allowed to have visits with all kids. Because the state says that if you have a crime against a child that you are not allowed to have the visits with even your old sadly, just family members who are kids. So no, i dont get to see them other than pictures. Talk into them on the fall every 90 days. Like all women on death row. Linda carter who has no physical contact with her family visits are always behind the bulletproof glass. These special inmates are separated from the rest of the prison population. They are in total isolation locked in tiny cells. They are not allowed to have personal belongings or photos on the wall. Awakened every morning at 3. Their lives revolve around meals and inspections. Every 2 hours alone, 24 hours a day. They are waiting to be executed. These imprisonment conditions are deemed inhumane by the prisoners, families, a mental and emotional torture that also affects their children and grandchildren. Carty lindas daughter tries her best to maintain family ties with her mom, whose life is on hold. Its a challenge to make her exist spiritually to her children, to maintain a semblance of normality. This isnt their 1st christmas, but this is wonderful. And of course my mom gets copies of all of these photos. And we try to send as many as possible, the boys try to send as many cards as we possibly can. So they write letters to keep in contact dated on whats going on, family gossip. And if you who have never seen the grandmother that they hear about all the time and who will one day learn the truth about her crime . I usually have my mom with the newest announcement here. Anything thats new, its cool. Everything like that. Picture will be the one that got the News Announcement next to it, but yes, shes always included. And the kids, as you know, all the time, all the time, mothers day was always pretty difficult. Or else one of the questions, what kind of questions with the normal questions, you know, how soon they are doing was last time we talked to nana . Are we, when are we going to be able to go . You know, how come we cant go . And the best we can do is to just explain it to them. These are the rules that they have set up and we cant change their juval only has one picture of her mother taken by a guard from the other side of the visiting room with a jacket to hide her prisoners clothes. Shes always alone. Contact with other death, row prisoners is not allowed. Shes in a cell all day, all 23 hours of the day nonstop. And the one hour that she gets to come out of this hole were she is all by herself. She still doesnt get to have interaction with everyone else. She still by herself. Tell me that its not punishment. Tell me that its not enough punishment. Im worried about, you know, is she going to be sane . Because how long can you maintain being by yourself for year after year after year with no one to talk to . Where does your sanity go . Not surprisingly, many who are condemned to death get some madness long before being executed. A place in the middle of the desert, close to the mexican border. This community of only 30000 people is a mixture of newcomers. And vigilante groups trying to prevent migrants crossing the border. One militia was responsible for the biggest slaughter in the region. Led by 42 year old shawna forde. Now sentenced to death for executing a mexican family suspected of trafficking drugs. Her friend lane wallace has also educated her life to stop Illegal Immigrants and the United States. If youre going to go to a place where theres a lot of trafficking and stuff going on, youre probably going to take set like in a 47 or an a r 15. You really shouldnt go out to places where theres drug smugglers to not carry along. You made something seana for his organization was a nationalist militia which claimed to fight cartels at the border. Shawna forde was an early activists, a regular on the media and television. She liked to praise the merits of her militant actions, and she knew our a vodka like the back of her hands. Is an extremely dangerous area. A matter of fact so dangerous that im refusing to bring the order of i dont have the numbers. I have one gun on me and were not getting people trying to spin lawyers and doctors here. Ok, were giving the floor of the floor. We know what we need to do to secure these borders. We know what we need to do to secure the sovereignty of this nation, and thats what were going to do and we will win this war. Thats a shot of for a minute, an American Defense plane wallace, like other militia members, doesnt believe shawna. Forde is a murderer. She thinks she was settling scores between opposing cartels and that she was the scapegoat for the murders. This is the house where the arab docket massacre happened at about 12. 45 am. On a friday night, several intruders burst into that house. They were supposedly pretending to be Border Patrol and were dressed as Border Patrol and they shot the husband. They shot the wife and they shot the 9 year old daughter. The wife survived, she was shot in the head like the daughter in the husband were seana. Ford was never positively identified by the surviving with this. So there were definitely 2 men there and one woman. And there were additional parties as well. Shes didnt know if there was, she said there might have been 4 or 5 people there, but she couldnt describe them. Resign your fluoresce line. And her father drove florence, died on the spot with a bullet in the head. The only survivor of the massacre. Gina gonzales. Brasenose mother, shot in the leg. She pretended to be dead during the shooting before calling for help. I dont know where you think they shot them. The way they were, they shot him in the head in the head. Theyre the people who were there at that shot of the other back there on the phone. Salems who heard her came back inside the house to eliminate the only survivor to defend herself. Picked up her husbands weapon and started firing a man who was injured in the leg. You can clearly hear the voice of the woman on the recording. A voice that could belong to shawna forde. How many people were there . I dont know. And like male, theyre talking there with a male in the woman. Ok. Now the woman that he looked like, thank me for a moment. Taking leaves just coming in to join us for newsroom. 3 people have been arrested in connection with a deadly home invasion. After a highly publicized trial, shawna forde sentenced to death for the double homicide. Despite the fact that gina gonzales, the only survivor was never able to formally identify her, nor to say exactly how many killers were in the house. Chris ackerley sana for his lawyer. Believe there is no evidence that his client was present at the scene of the kind which he claims proves shawn affords innocence. We see a mysterious woman carrying a weapon, similar to the one found at the scene of the kind. This womans identity is still unknown today in the 1st place, gina guns all as she was uncertain if it was one woman in her house or 2 with them. Because the woman who was initially there went outside, and a few minutes later, a woman came in who was dressed completely differently and had her hair done completely different way. And she identified her as being a heavy set short one with blondish brown hair. Now we can prove that these photographs were taken the night before the flores homicides occurred. The jury never saw those photographs looks to me like a short, heavy set woman with blondish brown hair that is not shown up for we dont know who it is. There is a shotgun there, and 357. 00 caliber revolver. Now, 20 minutes after the homicides occurred. This weapon was found in the forest front yard. This is also 357 handgun, with a finger and intuitions, i believe that shawna forde was not present when these homicides occurred. She was not at the floor. Shes simply wasnt there. This is also what shawna forde has been claiming since she was arrested. We requested an interview, but death row inmates are not allowed interviews in arizona. After months of waiting, we were finally granted permission to talk to her on the phone interview. Yes. Ok. Thank you. Ellie, look forward to talking to you all. That technology should work for people must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the 1st law. Show your identification or should be very careful about official intelligence. And the point is to create a trust theories say with artificial intelligence, will somebody be a robot must protect its own existence, which only exists for the tactics that can be used to get innocent people to confess, to crimes. They didnt commit. I dont even think people in the us really get that the police are allowed to lie to you. The person who falsely fast actually came to believe the lie that they were told about their own behavior. Once a false confession is taken, the case is closed. Nobody really can tell the difference between a good confession and one that isnt the world is driven by a dream, shaped by our own person. Who dares thinks we dare to ask so what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have. Its crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race off and spearing dramatic development. The only posts really im going to resist. I dont see how that strategy will be successful, very critical time. Time to sit down and talk. New gold rush is underway and gonna thousands of ill equipped workers are flocking to the gold fields, hoping to strike it rich. Heres the good. As they were, children are torn between gold. My family was very poor. I thought i was doing my best to get back to school, which side will have the strongest appeal among the stories that shape the week here are to see historic peace deal brokered by moscow is signed by armenia and almost 2 months of bloodshed in the Russian Military personnel are in the region to armenians, however, helping taking to the streets of their account for the accusing the countrys prime minister, the trio, grounding, the truce a humiliating defeat in america counter protest