Run for the wife of a former associate speaks just ahead of last nights u. S. President ial debates accusing him of lying. First hand knowledge about this because i directly dealt with the biden family including joe biden. Around the clock across the world this is our t. International from the team and myself you know neil alone welcome to the program. Decided not to buy up doses of a potential Coronavirus Vaccine being developed by the british swedish firm. Cited a lack of data from the company after the death of a trial volunteer in brazil reportedly a 28 year old doctor passed away after taking part in phase 3 trials run by Astra Zeneca Oxford university its not known whether he received the actual drug or placebo or senior correspondent. The story. There is always the risk with any vaccine any Clinical Trial that statistical improbability that would point to nor one percent risk that someone dies at someone reportedly was a brazilian doctor he was part of an Oxford UniversityVaccine Trial Group and is believed to have suffered fatal complications but theyre sure its safe to keep going following careful assessment of the skis in brazil there have been new concerns about safety of the Clinical Trial and the independent review in addition to the brazilian regulator have recommended that the trial should continue there is a race on a race for v vaccine that works that saves millions of lives and brings in billions of dollars and visits in Clinical Trial things go wrong they have astra zeneca who is vaccine it is has already suspended trials last month after another patient developed a strange illness but the trials must go on clients awaiting brazil for example whose president has said he wants the british vaccine in contrast to his own Health Ministry which wanted 46000000 doses of the chinese vaccine for my government any vaccine before being made available to the population must be scientifically proven by the Health Ministry and certified by the National HealthSurveillance Agency the brazilian people will not be guinea pigs for anyone there is no justification for a billionaire financial contribution to a drug that is not even parses testing phase given the above my decision is not to purchase the vaccine but it is remarkable to people look at the same vaccine and see 2 Different Things one sees a lot of votes Political Capital the other person sees a panacea medicine for millions it isnt only orgy it isnt politics and it isnt the electoral process. That saves it is the vaccine we dont want a new government will go to congress and to cool to ensure that the population has access to all vaccines that are efficient and safe health is a big arrested an ideological overlook traill disputes brazil is in an awful situation 150000 coronavirus dead 2nd only to the United States things on pretty that koreas lives the economy and the election all hinge on that vaccine no wonder trump has been flooding pharmaceutical giants with billions urging them to do fast and faster we have a vaccine thats coming its ready its going to be announced within weeks and its going to be delivered we have operation work speed which is the military is going to distribute the vaccine and just as it brazil theres a divide kassam in opinion people want need a vaccine but they want one that works not one that makes the most money not one that stumbled and struggled through trials and especially not one made to save the president s korea he this is the same fellow told you this is going to end by easter last time the same fellow who told you that dont worry were going to end this by the summer were about to go into a dark winter. I think its going to be a very skeptical American Public about taking a back seat and it should be if the doctors tell us that we should take it ill be the 1st in line to take it absolutely but if Donald Trump Tells us i said to him that weve taken im not taking it it was clear from the get go that there would be a race for a vaccine what we didnt consider was how dirty it would be simple thing a jab to save millions of lives would turn into a bit of free for all over origin and money name and preach the advantage and reelection lets just hope that efficiency and Public Health also get a little consideration. Moving the program all know france is pressuring social media giants to stump extremism online the government has summoned representatives of Facebook Twitter and other firms to explain why socalled cyber islam ism is being allowed to spread on their platforms. Thats a problem to take stock in the wake of. Beheading social media giants have become. Those who participated in the public lynching of this teacher there are videos that were posted on social networks in a way responsible for what happened in the days leading up to the mood of the 47 year old teacher videos inciting hatred against him was shared all social media platforms so i mean he was also targeted by activists online in a hate campaign that went viral whipping up a storm that frances anti terror Prosecutor Says it was based on lies. It is clear that the teacher was targeted in various ways by social media by these 2 men using a false interpretation of the facts some new party had filed a complaint to the police about the hate campaign but it was not enough to prevent his brutal murder the terrorists who killed him also used twitter to claim responsibility. For. Patty it will maintain online for 2 hours now n. G. O. S have taken on not fight taking twitter to court accusing the social media giant of not doing enough to tackle hate speech online so what do people hey think social media giants doing their bit the things that have been posted inciting hatred are not normal. Should be done to tackle that much more its very easy to put all the blame on social media it is an instrument for people to use and its up to a person to decide what is problematic or not. Should block such posts and there should be more people moderating all the content social media joints have also been hauled in front of the government with ministers calling for stricter rules the companies such as Facebook Google twitter and ticktock have been. Asked to come up with colquitt proposals about cyber islam isnt he said to delusions islamist ideology spread widely on social networks whole generation of young people have been radicalized at home alone in their rooms in front of their phones or Computers France has already tried to combat hate speech online with the hour fear law its now thought aspects of tackling hate speech could also be included in khans new draft bill to fight separatism some argue its naught more regulation thats needed the problem lies with how its being enforced social media giants have all been criticized for helping extremist groups recruit and radicalize people with high capturing content for some they can no longer be treated as neutral hosts and dangerous content that can as francis seen recently lead to unspeakable crimes and its now be treated as a priority. R. T. Paris. We also spoke to the french author of a number of acclaim books on terrorism who believes its up to the authorities to target action. More should be done from the secret services i mean that france has a you know in a place called blade it will outside of paris where the big ears are and this is where you you have to really make an effort into identifying the hate speech is. The operations in plays the merits of vengeance are all these information traveling on in cyberspace has to be controlled at that level for us i dont think the the social Media Companies can can can do much besides you know. Try and monotone keywords in various postings that they will take off but it might be too late people download them they recycle them its really complicate it has to be done at the ground level. Covert 19 dodgy dealings on balis in north korea just some of the topics donald trump and joe biden clashed over in the final president ial debate but the 2 septa in ariens werent the only ones in the spotlight right ahead of the event a former associates of bidens son hunter spoke out artist on a quarter texas through the art on the night that. Well one of the main stars of the debate was definitely the scandalous elephant in the room the topic of hunter biden sketchy overseas business dealings just last week we saw a bombshell report from the New York Post claiming that the emails found on Hunter Bidens laptop proved that his father joe biden had been in the know about these dealing something that the former Vice President has always denied and then just 90 minutes before the debate an x. Business partner of hunter biden tony actually said that joe biden was lying through his teeth about this joe biden say that is never discussed business with hunter that is false d firsthand knowledge about this because i directly dealt with the biden family well i just basically being accused of corruption hes being accused of receiving a lot of money from a Ukrainian Company called but the most important part of this scandal most interesting involves the now bankrupt Chinese Energy company that hunters and Business Venture was allegedly collecting millions of dollars from every year now also said that joe biden was specifically mentioned in these emails as that big guy who was set up to have 10 percent of that Business Venture and thats interesting but its also very interesting that right after the publication of this article and these emails social media giants like facebook and twitter immediately tried to block this information and a lot of conservatives have come forward to call this an instance of political bias so naturally trump really tried to bring this to drive this point home and during the debates the emails so horrible evils of the kind of money that you were raking in you and your family and you know you will Vice President when some of this was happening and i think you owe an explanation to the American People i did my job. I carried out u. S. Policy not one single solitary thing was out of line not a single thing there are 50 former National Intelligence folks. Who said that what this hes accusing me of is a russian plane you mean the laptop is now another russia russia russia hoax and you got exactly what does this tell you exactly what is the way hes going to allow write up is russia yes i mean i should i want to stay on the issue of radio have to be kidding here we go again with the russia this wasnt the only point of contention throughout the debate though its been a very bitter president ial race between biden and trump and neither could help themselves for more name calling if i thought you did a good job i would have never run anyone whos responsible for that many of us should not remain as president of the United States of america they left us a mess which hes saying is a bunch of garbage this is a terrible thing it is then a phobic i think he called me a racist even a response if he isnt a phobic come on joe you could do better you said it i tape i did show the tape put it on your website i put it on on the website the fact of the matter is youre lying youre all talk and no action give me a break now as for where we are right now in the president ial elections as of the beginning of the debates already more than 46000000 americans had cast their ballots and both campaigns have already said that biden is actually has an advantage right now in terms of the popular vote but last time this didnt actually win the democrats the election so we will have to see how it pans out. On the program protests are up across poland after a new court ruling enforces an almost total ban all abortions will be debating doubt if you will. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation for community. Are you going the right way or are you being so. What is true what is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or inmate in the shallows. This little more than a week before the election many are asking the question do you believe the polls we have good reason to do so should voters trust the polls if you dont trust the folks will you trust the outcome of the election. Again abortion ruling in poland sparked outrage on thursday the countrys top court bun pregnancy terminations on the grounds of fetal defects hundreds of people took to the streets of warsaw right after the ruling was announced on thursday they held up bombers denouncing the conservative law and Justice Party its long been pushing for tougher abortion laws being accused of packing the Constitutional Court with loyalists right place where ive been for seizing control weapons or similar scenes in cities across poland. Of the constitutional tribunals ruling effectively bans almost all abortions in poland which already had some of the top. First laws in europe on some law 98 percent of terminations were jus too severe a fetal abnormalities the only remaining grounds for abortions will be cases of rape incest or a threat to the pregnant womans life the rules will take effect after being passed by parliament which is seen as certain to happen given the ruling partys majority because love youre opposed called d the move a sad day for womens right removing the basis for almost all legal abortion simple amounts to a ban and violates human rights todays ruling of the Constitutional Court means on the ground or abroad abortions for those who can a food and even greater or do you for all of this. For helping the welcome onto the Program Lauren chan lauren is host of the pseudo intellectual podcast speaking to us this hour from montreal and Emma Campbell is co convener of the alliance for choice in belfast welcome to you both lauren can we start with you and opinion poll in poland last year a fund that only 15 percent of people were in favor of tightening abortion laws so why do it if there is so little public support. Well i think the thing with human rights in general especially the right to life is that they shouldnt be dependent on what other people think slavery back in the day used to be a democratic option that didnt make it morally justified in the same goes for abortion the right to life is the foremost right that anybody has and i would like to proudly apparently take a stand against eugenics today and say that someones right to life should not be determined on their Genetic Health right someone who has a disability or is deformed in some way or another is no less worthy of life than anybody else and its quite surprising that in this day and age that actually needs to be said. One of the reactions to this story as being the. Protects on born babies with dollin syndrome. Have you have you ever met a parent who regrets having a dunce in a child or a child indeed with a severe disability whos health has improved later in life in the times even thrived dont children deserve the childs. I think every child deserves to be a wanted child and every mother deserves to be a well in mother and as we see it in countries like poland and as was recently for the same reasons in Northern Ireland that we on the one hand hear these conservatives saying that they want to protect life i dont the other hand and exact same government and the exact same that ministrations that cut supports for disabled people cut supports for single mothers cut support for special Education Services for people with seem disabilities not only that but Northern Ireland has experienced this exact same law until very recently and what didnt mind it too was no reader life in Northern Ireland and i just have to correct that previous speaker there is no International Human right to life for fetuses it doesnt exist the right to life begins on the day that people are born and what we had in Northern Ireland was people who had really heartbreaking diagnosis of them and carefully and other known survivor not survivable illnesses and the parents then had to travel to a different country in our case and and in the case of poland it would likely be germany or sometimes also and then they had to have the abortion there and have no way of transfer transport in the field to me and back to their home country to have a fitting burial ok what this law has done is prevented families was really heartbreaking pregnancies that they want to happen to go through a much more respectful process for their grief and lauren the term severe physical law is also includes of course far more serious conditions than dawn syndrome in many cases these children are going to require a run the clock care for for their entire lives as long as that may be is that further to put such a burden on what may be an on willing mother. Well i would like to clarify that no one in the prolife camp is wanting anyone to be an unwilling mother right saying that you should have the right to abort your fetus is not the same thing as saying you must be a parent for the rest of your life adoption is always an option and one that i strongly encourage if someone is finding themselves with an unplanned pregnancy and does not want to be a mother was unprepared to be a mother but to say that because the person who conceived you doesnt want to be a parent therefore your right to life is 4th that that is completely ridiculous and to to address something your other previous guest said you know there are many many children out there who grew up with parents that werent the best and perhaps maybe didnt want them im sure many of them would take issue with the idea that just because their parents werent necessarily the most willing supporters of them that they should have been aborted or that would have been all right to do its its just something thats very difficult same with the idea that if we want to argue that Downs Syndrome children should not be aborted we must also implement some sort of huge welfare state or social safety net i dont accept the rationale that either we make the government care for people from cradle to grave or we might as well abort them that is a ridiculous notion and i reject it entirely. Just to touch on a point you made earlier about women traveling for abortions the women in poland. Become travel as you say elsewhere in europe to have abortions fellows ans do every year but there are women in other countries im thinking of egypt philippines el salvador Central America where abortions are criminalized the tend not to have that option so in effect polish women in this case do have a choice though. Well i think what this highlights is rather ocracy by the people who make the laws because theyre not preventing these abortions from what im what theyre saying is were ok with these abortions as long as they happen in a different legislated legislation you know theyre not saying we disapprove of your abortions be just as true that men will hold their noses against you have the newness. You reject is a sentiment you travel to a different country and then your life back. Once it happens it is completely ludicrous in countries like egypt and the philippines people do you have abortions they just have them safely on people and therefore die quite frequently from and see if the abortion because they still need them theyre just trying to see if it means to help them a new stage of gestation lauren abortions are still permitted in poland in cases of rape but the mother needs to provide her certificate from a Public Prosecutor proving she was raped surely thats an all for a burden is not on someone in that situation well 1 i think the fetus in question might disagree that that is unfair and actually there are several advocates now who are very strongly on the prolife side who were themselves the product of rape their lives are no less worthy in my opinion because of the unfortunate circumstances that led to their conception right and i think you would have a hard time looking someone who was the product of such a situation and telling them that their life should be forfeit because of the actions of someone else and to get to the point about supposed help pocker see of letting women leave the country i am sure that if the polish had government had implemented any measures to prevent women from travelling to Different Countries in order to get abortions then these prochoice advocates would be up in arms even further of the suppose it restriction of these freedoms and actually if we want to talk about egypt which i think is you know the International Conversation about abortion is very interesting as well abortion is often touted as a womans right but we dont really hear prochoice advocates talk about the issue of sex selective abortion right there are countless numbers of female fetuses around the world who are at risk of being aborted on the basis of their biological sex where are the feminist protectors standing up for these fetuses i know its not as popular to do because they dont have voices and they dont have votes but their lives and their lives as women matter as well. What about the issue of of religion were talking about poland an overwhelmingly tough population 93 percent Roman Catholic you know this is were talking about it were not talking western europe or the us were talking to people with with a more traditional point if you does the government have a responsibility to respect the the religious views of most majority of the population. You can respect or they just it will be to want to have abortions but not ban them for other people its very simple and thats what they do in ireland thats what they do in england thats what they have just begun to do in Northern Ireland and there was a big move to try and deal that kind of suite of sex and sex selective abortions in the u. K. Research went into there was actually very very little evidence of it actually happening so what it is is generally a straw man argument put up by the prolife side the bottom line is this most abortions happen before 12 weeks most abortions happened and were approved of by the church up by the Catholic Church up until 1836 when there was quicken and when there was movement in the women and the reason that they changed their mind and this wasnt because of a moral turnaround it was because of Something Different so i think the idea that the Catholic Church has always been against abortion firstly is a misnomer the idea that there are no catholic prochoice people is also inaccurate there are thousands of catholics who have abortions there are hundreds of spies and what have they let me just eventually just. Maybe a controversial opinion but it is something that we do hear from certain countries when we interview people from there theyre afraid that if Something Like certain parts of abortion goes through that its a slippery slope in their society it leads to other things that theyre seeing in the west like puberty blockers for children transgenderism issues the suicide rates that goes without can you see can you give pause for thought but perhaps people are afraid that dots were such issues lead to. Its weird slip the idea of a slippery slope is bizarre because the numbers of abortions in countries where abortion is illegal are higher than the number of abortions in countries where its completely decriminalized to the. Oh streets of abortion in the world are in the netherlands and canada and they have the most decriminalized systems of anywhere in the world and the idea that some of my making abortion illegal stops it happening is inaccurate the way that you stop abortions happening as frequently is to introduce Sex Education programs that arent abstinence based is to introduce easily available contraception easily available morning after pills and instead to seem people who are trying to ban abortion often are also trying to ban the same Sex Education programs and the slim easy access to contraception ok were just running out of time maybe you can offer your final thoughts lauren. Well the prochoice lobby often likes to i guess present all of these issues as to why abortion is the moral thing actually its not really because of sex selection this study says shows and if any time a Prolife Group says all right so just to ensure that its not about sex selection how about we make it illegal you know for certain to discuss the sex in the situation of an abortion and all of a sudden that becomes an issue of womens rights to choose the same thing with you know the idea that its just fetuses who are bound for the death bad that are being terminated if we do introduce a bill or a provision that says all right if there is its not a viable pregnancy then thats allowed to be terminated all of a sudden its not its not enough for these people you heard your guest say explicitly the right to life for a fetus does not exist and this is what the issue is all about for them they do not recognize the right of the unborn to live and actually i think the argument of a slippery slope is very valid considering in canada there are no federal limitations on abortion so you can have abortion up to 9 months which i think its fair to say is infanticide the us there are more and more conversations leading the same way weve even heard flirtations with post birth abortion im glad that poland is taking a stand against this and your 15 seconds if you wish and what we had a noise in ireland when we made it illegal was people who were arrested for have an abortion so if you want to go and arrest every single woman in poland or every single woman in america whos had an abortion go ahead but that will be one 3rd of the adult woman population and nobody can support that weve been speaking to lauren chen host of the pseudo intellectual podcast Emma Campbell cole convener of the alliance for choice in belfast very interesting discussion thank you both for coming on the program thank you think. Things news rolling up is looking this hour from the book at the top with all your updates but stay close know it for more great programs beginning in the moments. Americans love. This was a fundamental part of how our Political Leadership and our country at large understood the bargain you get a hope and then you know rebel right as the things you dont revolt if you have a stake in the system. And think about the longer deeper history housings men in the United States not just. The American Dream but the bigger question of who the dream is for. A lot of people talk about is this to be. The worlds superpower or but theyre not think of another