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My son fight in the terrible spies and try my hardest and mighty offense is fighting back to back titles the sergeants the parents tired of liars has its entire views anyone last could be about to create a commission to cars. Cars to recycle the cars. Cars to pick up i think i did a hard time since concepts are so shiny groups carol terrible darbys to keep our bones emerging markets. This is to every free on a house with no handouts i pass in the back im happy i was counted out of what you back now and thats dampened up a casket a 2nd that we could do but i got my ass ramped up a bit its now time to cash out of my face down on the lawn the day they come out the house it was straight up my panties now that its a snowplow by the shrub and away from the case i joined in a baseball bat for a. Place with a space to the base of the cage concept. So i will sort this all 1st of all. Youve got an incredible amount of passion and energy in your music and your art and that really comes through and someone watches you perform like we just did im very truly inspirational so i really want to start with asking you who is the 5 defy is. And c. Music producer artist educator from albuquerque new mexico representing the denomination defies all so if you broke it break it down into acronym could be definitely eternal or deaf eternal forever inferno or definitely eternal forever internal short for definition rare. If you look at a sonically hi fi lo fi and somewhere in there is doubt 5 or to defy the 5 began probably in my middle school time and ive stuck with the name ever since so what like what was your inspiration and experience that. Led you to bring you know hip hop spoken word hip hop and traditional native American Culture together in your are like what brought those 2 forces together. I think it would be a combination of live in an urban and rural area and environments as a youth wasnt raised primarily im from a traditional side nor. You know the other side of things so basically. As a youth my grandparents on my maternal side they really instilled a lot of wisdom when i was at a lesson my mother also taught me how to read and write before i could walk so they gave me a good leading start to begin with in middle school id say about that time i got introduced to hip hop culture as far as like the b. Boy b. Girl cipher circuit i seen a direct similarities and connection between hip hop culture and my traditional culture as a dinette person and that both of those connections led me to kind of combine both together what were the similarities of. For instance as a deaf person we have 4 clans were very natural lineal culture and our reservation is surrounded by 4 sacred mountains for sacred directions a lot of these numbers stood out to me and for the hip hop the 4 Main Elements to it. One of the main connections that really led me to become connected with hip hop is. The philosophies too as well like our people. Were not very judgment on this much for the most part and hip hop kind of is and is a universal culture to me so without having to look at someones skin tones and hip hop practitioners can practice the ceremonies and i feel like that was inviting for me a lot of times it was hard to find acceptance growing up there in new mexico where im from so hip hop was there so i always carry my Cultural Heritage with me and you know its interesting you you raised over a 1000000 dollars a big number you raised the room 1000000 dollars to help the water protectors of Standing Rock when that went down what was your inspiration for stepping forward and saying you know what im going to use my arm to use who i am and what i do to raise money for those people out there putting you know put their lives on the line its very wrong. You know i was a part of the fund raising i didnt do it entirely myself ive got to give credit to the collective crew family was you say of. Hip hop practitioners people who are just there to help and we all together fund raise over a 1000000 dollars and one night a hip hop concert by texting water at this certain number you able to leave a monetary donation just a little back story like that but i started out as a battle rapper 1st and i seen the entertainment value side of that but after a while i realized that i could apply myself in much more useful ways or much more impactful ways rather than battling someones head to head why not try to go towards the system instead and try to wake up in the fire the system sort of speak and. Thats kind of how defy started i did a song when i 1st was inspired as these hydraulic fracturing zones were getting closer and closer to my homeland where my grandparents are from and some nasty new mexico is very rural at that point in time i realized that i needed to apply myself as an mc a music producer towards a much larger issues at hand then just battle rap so i stepped outside of the box and wrote this. Song called the land of in fragments and thats kind of a flip on the on the slogan of our state and just to expose and also raise awareness of all these atrocities that are happening throughout that fracturing zones in our areas and from that point on ive just been helping hand as part of the many different movements for the Indigenous Peoples movement and many others as well but thats probably the most that was a that was a beginning you know after hearing your music and like i mentioned earlier that passion that you have that like just bleeds out of every every verse every bar every word i really want is like how do you sit down when you sit down the writers write a song you know like what is that process for you when you sit down and say ok you know im going to write about this issue of fracking or im just going to you know write some fire to get people jumping up about like what how do you tackle that how do you approach each song each song is kind of approach very differently but for the most part im writing my lyrics behind the drivers seat i know its a little risky but when im mad its very rural areas i can drive out and enjoy the scenery. And be out of the city put on a instrumental usually the beep guides 1st take out my beats through different producers go from there and so youre literally like right behind the wheel the car in the beautiful new mexico. Going into your painted sky and landscape it is suddenly like listening to examine and write about yeah exactly a lot of times ill freestyle to think of the ideas and then just put it down on paper. Who are some of your inspirations and your pa. Many inspirations i guess from my youth the 1st hip hop song i probably would have heard was probably a run d. M. C. Or chill raji track and as far as emceeing goes theres so many different amazing talented mcs that have inspired me to name a few. Big pun big. Care as one person. Micah 9 and freestyle fellowship evidence the dilated peoples of those are very influential artists about the good variety and you can see that not reflected in your work instead of what you dont feel bad but you can definitely feel that the style and. One of the things thats interesting too is your work you work a lot with young people and. You know how has your work with those young people how was that inspired the music and the art that you create. A voice inspired me since the beginning in especially when times when i guess an artist may get tired of war now from trying to continue working with the youth has been very inspirational because they provide so much support 1st of all they keep things brand new and fresh for me i dont get worn out or i dont complain a lot a lot of people say like how do you keep going in not complaining about being on the road all the time. Just going back home and doing youth outreach or just makes me happy true happiness by working with the youth i was always raised in a classroom setting a come from a family of educators and healers so ive always been in the classroom since i was a kid my mom has been a teacher in a big inspiration for that so when people ask me why are you so connected to that evolution its just kind of just who i am and i was brought up that way and raised that way. Working with the youth also gives me a sense of purpose thats much deeper than. Working for just myself for what would you say monetary gain or certain things like that or some are just going for the fame like its never really been a focus of mine but. Hiphop practitioners and see i feel like i have a responsibility to give back and thats what i really focus on that its a big focus of part of my mission couldnt afford that joe on 1944 and a 4th that joan ordered school by going to boarding school forced the move gotcha. As in more sports in a dorm but only one course of fire chief kept the wood burning before morning outside the house early at 440 past the sheep rug on the floor by the door when the dormitory escaped with corporate doors an explorer pony here to take it back home. To scrub the present. Residue resume like beams of people. Able to cope with all the pain that we saw in the next generations of welcome but before the preservation was a home you know the nation was but im in a sweat lodge see in a vision its like im back out the grandmother moon in the fetal position. To. Me it. Was. Flocking to the goldfields hoping to strike it rich. As. Children between. Was very poor. Get back to school and will have the strongest appeal. To. The folks. At the top it does get. Back in the 6. Lakh it is. Caught up i think you are left. With your feet he says you. Get the free. Yes. Without proper credentials perhaps 1st. Class. With it we got. Dropped the ball you. Finish playing. The balance get out this house this. Sicko. Trying. To help folks. Ready. Headed. To ram. Dass. To. End the show. But you could still. If you had it would this prejudice apply that to describe. A lot of people i think especially who are part of the you know the indigenous population here in the United States who are part of the native American Community of the tribes and things like that you know i think theres a lot of misconceptions out there you know. What do you feel are some of the biggest misconception is that people have about your culture and where youre coming from. Yeah when im out and about far away from home i can sometimes sense. That people look at us as were almost not even human beings in certain instances not everywhere i go but there are some places what i can look at somebody and just take a quick glance and they almost look at me with some type of sense of resentment if there are people out there who believe that. Were only one kind of people i mean theres so many different tribes that exist here in the country and were all very different a lot of times people to like you know were sitting here at a bar a lot of times people think that were just alcoholics myself. Ive been over like 6 years alcohol free in like theres many of us who never even drank or did drugs before so thats another misconception people believe that were poor but we really were very rich in culture tradition Cultural Heritage a lot of people also believe that every tribe gets per capita or like we were helped out where we get a helping hand no matter what its really not the case sometimes when you come to the deep parts of the reservations or the most rural areas i think a lot of people in music they only see the big names in the big lights right like theyre only used to see in the cat on the m. T. V. Or the cat on the cover of a magazine things like that but that its a bigger world than that ive heard you describe sort of like you know if you become in if i dont artist at a certain time you can you know either be in it for monetary gain and be like this was to be considered as a rap. But i consider myself more as and see and i think that allows myself to be more Community Based and not a selfserving entrepreneur more like you know im here of service as well for. Representing myself my family my friends but also the culture of hip hop and that sense of pride in me being proud of who i am as an as and in that manner and also as and see it gives me strength but also gives me direction to what im actually doing here with the music hiphop is. Save my life so. Me being me being part of the culture is like just i mean i want to contribute just as much as i can chip papas help means so when they sort of surgery life like how did hip hop save your life. Hip hop save my life. Through the friendships and bonds and through the practice of itself i feel like as i was working on these skills the skills were also working on me to become a better person and started out as a homeless artist and if it wasnt for the Hip Hop Community or the hip hop scene at that time i wouldnt have had a place to stay i wouldnt have had. Food and just basic survival needs so Hip Hop Community has been there for me since day one and what advice would you give you know a younger person in similar shoes to you who phys finds that spirit finds that voice you know through music. For myself i mean r r. Intergenerational. A tragic yes of success rates because they can trust that to be torn up on thats just just trying to portray 64 friends that they took off in life size its this sort of magic box thats like to make these plastic ones looks like something you want to present the street ill head up but dont get caught up in its tracks as i sped up somewhat upset because i were still saving face minutes at the foot of the truck to deal with the bobbing genocide of my flock is no surprise that is the deal is still spinning in his pocket its a box he could give up in a big business trash if they dont have a spare because theyre legal types of paper comparable to night said with some care but you might say never your flight back to the docks the same rapid pull back from the signal by the signal him ha you do have. You know political nature of what youre talking about because i think a lot of what you rub about a lot of what youre songs about you know they like to mention with fracking and things like that you know you put those those flavors in there how important is music to changing. Politics or changing an issue or attacking an issue or maybe people where an issue like how important is music to a fellow like music can inspire and empower many people and i feel like if the messages there that. Or you look at it like the last song that you did for like the last song that you did for us thats such an enlightening song and its such a powerful song using the mix of you know your heritage and your people as well as the drum beat and then the hip hop flavor in the archipelago of the you know you know that song has about that song teaches as a tribal person you kind of grow up loving the environment and thats it and thats inside you already instilled so. Doesnt make you a politician so to speak but the issues the politics that you know surround and they directly relate to our lives and way of life so. Its a responsibility for me to create music that. Inspires and helps empower others because i was just inspired and empowered from hearing music from a lot of the greats and legends of the hiphop pioneers is that its a continuation right you know its a beautiful continuation. I want to finish up and ask you you know when you look at your career and you look at where youre going you know youre only 33 years old youve got a long career in front of you got a lot more music to write a lot more beauty to produce on this world what do you what do you imagine or what do you hope your legacy years with your music and who you are. And i got its fired from reading something i think from karas warner somewhere where hes making music for the future generations creating a catalog that can last and also transcend generations i would like for my music to help inspire future generations and also help anybody in need who. Who feels alone or phils. Depressed i mean. I make music just to help a lot and i do make music just the likes i do have tracked i just did fire not really. Just focus on a specific concept but its hard to see the ripple effects of us sometimes because were just moving and moving and moving and moving i hope to look back one day and be able to. Thrive with my music career but also really its a money give back tenfold as much as i received i mean i got to say my hip hop has been there since the beginning so its hard for me to say what i really want out of it its hard to describe man i just sometimes that the music speaks for itself. And that ladies and gentlemen is our show for you to day thank you all very much for watching and remember in this world we are not told that we are loved enough so i tell you all i love you i am tyrrel but keep on watching those hawks and have a great day and night everybody. Please. Post some of this the. Last time we chased. Each one of them carrying 20 kilos d of drugs. First offense. Is that they just step or therapy. Is the main thing. They have this is the this is for me. I like it. I dont know maybe dont. Make or. Break right. Now want. To move. Move move move move at the believe it use near those who really can show you. That im surprised. To see you youre the. It would be near my stubbornness to the spirit id be to do it was more expedient then you know. If de gea clue. For you to. Sort of move to. Kick your butt is. Ringback join me every thursday on the alex simon show and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics or business im show business ill see you then. 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