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The 2015 terrorist attacks which targeted the publication gets underway. With the u. S. Deeply divided ahead of the president ial election in november americans say theyre desperate for an alternative to remain on the country. And one welcome to our to international my names you know neal good to have your company. We begin with breaking news the German Government is claiming that russian opposition figure. Was poisoned with a nerve agent from the group not only is currently in a medically induced coma in a berlin hospital after being are lifted from russia 2 weeks ago the kremlin has said its received no communication from germany on the findings less cost lives. To our europe correspondent peter all over who is in berlin for us with the latest. Statement from the German Government peter tell us more about. All the reaction. Well im glad merkel the german chancellor has said that there is clear and big u. S. Evidence that Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a nerve agent belonging to the not a chalk family of those type of toxins this comes after tests were carried out and double checked according to the chancellor by the bundeswehr institute that say a laboratory a military laboratory that certified by the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons the o b c w the german chancellor said that this was an attempt to silence Alexei Novelli and a crime against fundamental values both the german chancellor Angela Merkel and German Foreign minister. Have called for and says in what happened to election of army. Its an informant soon it is obvious that one of the leading opposition figures in russia has been poisoned as specialized aboard 3 of the armed forces came to a clear conclusion that aleksey never in the was poisoned with a substance from the north beach a group hes the victim for crime someone tried to shut him up. We demand an investigation into the poisoning of aleksey now while we condemn this boys name and in the near future will hold consultations and how you can adequately respond to weight loss would depend on russias response to the case. Yes sir peter about whats being said in germany but theres been a Global Reaction hausner with statements from several countries. Thats right angle of merkel in her press conference said that the in the valley case was one that had drawn attention from around the world thats certainly been seen in the reaction were seeing coming in Boris Johnson the british Prime Minister saying that this was outrageous that a chemical weapon had been used and that the russian government must explain itself again stoltenberg the nato secretary general said that he damned the use of a military grade nerve agent while from the United States a statement put out. By the white house said that they were deeply concerned and had no reason to disbelieve the findings coming out of germany. Peter thanks very much for bring us right up to date on whats peter all over. For Senior Correspondent moroccos d. Of joins me in the studio as well to delve a little deeper into this. There are many facets to this story the russian government how if you developments well the reason some confusion in how russia is seeing this situation develop because for a week now this had been hardly any news from germany from the clinic where these being treated russia had offered over this period medical cooperation Legal Assistance from the valley anything to help that they could they and there has been no communication at all between russia and germany so we have a russian opposition politician opposition activist being treated in germany of a alleged poisoning in russia and there has been 0 communication between the 2 in fact that they learned of merkels a speech today from from the news so there was no diplomatic communication between the various ministries no warning to russia you know this guy may have been poisoned with a new video they literally watched television the headlines and they saw that merkel said this this was without a doubt. As early as august 27th their russian general Prosecutors Office addressed the German Justice ministry with an official request for Legal Assistance the office also expressed its readiness to present to the german side the test results and Research Carried out after mr vance hospitalisation the German Justice ministry confirmed it had received the request but so far thats. Just reading through some of the reports a reaction to this its already being cut. Heard quite extensive a 2 case in the british city of sorcery 2 years ago take us through just some of that if you will well the obvious heat was the perils were going to be drawn because merkel came out and said that was was without a doubt a substance from the. Poison movie talks are a range of different toxins that theres an air as old as a liquid powder many different forms depending on how they were supposed to be delivered this was before the destruction in accordance to the organization for the prohibition of Chemical Biological weapons but the never talk substance so the question is last time when the scripts were allegedly poisoned there was a massive operation that was launched in order to isolate the quarantine the sea there was a policeman who touched the door handle in which the neutral could allegedly been smeared was sprayed and he became sick he became very ill say you remember the people in hazmat suits Walking Around the house complete equality in the neighbors forced to move out the policeman who touched the door the door knob he had all his possessions confiscated so his car his house was quarantined he had to move out along with his entire family and in this case what we sort of valley who was must have been poisoned immediately before the his flight he became poorly felt very sick on the plane then he landed he was taken to hospital he was treated for a few days and then he flew out to germany and we didnt see any of the similar precautions being taken specially given that newbie chalk is an incredibly incredibly toxic substance and so it is hugely talented Something Like a drop can kill more than 100 people and did the evaporates as well as what one of its properties depending again on one form its in. But the german see this was a new bit shocking yet we havent seen anywhere near the precautions. Being take it and nobody else has come forward saying that you know theyre feeling bad theyre feeling poorly theres been no reports of anyone feeling sick with any symptoms similar to what divinely added he was on a packed airplane sitting next to his colleagues from the same Political Group that he belongs to and the interesting thing here is that weve heard merkel come out and say that there must be an investigation that only the russian government could answer for what has happened weve seen nato come out and say you need to Start Talking about consequences Start Talking about the need for an investigation and they havent offered anything to help the investigation so the indepth diagnosis the lab results that the allegedly they carried out the analysis and the lab results which say that this was an overture they havent given the russians anything to work with theres been a new communication out all aside from a new from the german side saying the thank russia for its concern that is all that has happened and now theyre theyre laying it on russia that youve got to come up with with a reason with who did this with the suspects with to reconstruct events and to tell us exactly what happened and well sit here and will wait for you to do that nevertheless as i said there are many theories going around many rumors you know speculation of this board the it is what is to be expected exactly the same as with the script out of the immediate aftermath of the bout theres a huge amount of speculation room was fake news as well and in this case were seeing a similar situation so its probably best not to rely on the press for now yet the press is all there is because the german side the. Justice ministry the German Health care none of them are talking to the. Russian just just to remind everyone. Felt very poorly mediately in the aftermath of a flight from tomsk to moscow and he was taken to a russian hospital from where he was flown to germany. Just as you broke down for us quite extraordinary thing not the russian government from the television from the press germany this is what germany was doing but they found time to speak to other e. U. Countries to nato as well the military alliance with. Where does this look as if its leading. It is a very strange situation so the Russian Ambassador in germany was summoned for an audience with merkel she. Told him that the russian government must carry out an investigation and only the russian government could answer for what has happened but he left empty handed so he wasnt given anything any other lab results as i mentioned earlier the diagnosis he left with empty hands and now it is on russia to carry out this investigation yet merkel also says that she will share the findings the german militarys findings military. Came out with the with the conclusions. Statement that this was a newbie chalk talks in that alex in the valley was poisoned with. It she will share the 5 didnt those lab results with nato allies for some reason it was a defensive alliance its difficult to you to imagine the reason for nato being involved in this with the european nations put not russia which is supposed to carry out a transparent investigation into how this happened and what happened indeed theres also the point that nato especially many countries in the European Union in nato in Eastern Europe specifically. Wanted a reason to get germany to stop cooperating with russia cooperating with russia on the nutrient project Gas Pipelines and then there may be an effort now by some actors to sort of wind people up to sort of wind the price up while theres very Little Information around and get germany to backtrack on its promise to continue on with the nord stream pipelines. Into germany from russia to transport gas in order to get them to stop that in order to sort of you know strike a blow against russias economic and political ambitions in europe but merkel had previously said the project would go all the regardless of agree to anything that happened that project would still go on here or words. Go with us i think that we should couple this issues and in our opinion north stream too should be completed. With the you know with what has happened now it is difficult to imagine the it will be business as usual at least in the near future in the immediate term because this obviously is now huge. A huge the a very very big deal allegedly new chalk agents involved this is something that is very difficult to produce for example for private access for private individuals with so its a state thing as the capital in the industry of the nation state to manufacture Something Like you know which will put the germans again coming out and very direct this new 2 ways about it that this was a new virtual cage and that was used to poison alex involve the. Them demanding answers from russia which is so far spread its arms and said well you are helping. Breaking down the story for a lot of ramifications will be delving into a lot of them after the break right because the if here were going to a lot of gas coming up on our breaking news story right throughout the hour were watching R T International a quarter of an hour into the program stay with us. The world is driven by a dream shaped by. The day or thinks. We dare to ask. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy. Let it be an arms race is often very dramatic to follow only closely. I dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. This is our to international lets return to the top story we have been speaking about for the last number of hours the German Government is claiming that russian opposition figure out Alexei Navalny was poisoned with a nerve agent from the chalk group mr valma is currently in a medically induced coma in a berth in hospital after being are lifted from russia a fortnight ago the kremlin has said its received no communication from germany on the findings so a lot to discuss lets do just that with. An economist and publisher speaking to us from germany the old. Good to see you the situation i would put to you seems to be heading along a predictable path youve got threats of sanctions already several world powers getting involved now aside from the human crisis here a man is in a coma after all how much of a diplomatic minefield is this where where do you see that heading. Yes youre absolutely right whenever such a thing which is not a diplomatic. Reaching thing happens maybe you always have to ask. Who is benefiting who does something was bennett and we have as weve already heard as it were a sion there there are heavy forces will go who want a closer relationship between russia and germany especially according the north to the project but we are also that the that you have to ask what could the russian government benefit of such a thing with the use of this opponent politicians even though especially in that being especially because misson of any wars in any big role in russia more he had a problem that he couldnt. Justify supporting 1000000. Disappearing out of his foundation the bet is heavily funded by foreign us and russia and they didnt see this very good so there was no danger for the russian government that he could be on the other hand the nato needed something now and had no case at all you have to corona and so are what they put into the game to start germany finishing the last 32 for example so you are set to ask who benefits and their hearts are playing. Heavily into our orses but the russian government we let on to a point i really want to make i could because we heard from the German Government saying who who theyve spoken to about this situation and it was almost a throwaway comment with no explanation that they would be consulting with nato on a joint response nato a military alliance what does nato have to do with this theres obviously no military threat involved here. No nato is more than just a military alliance they want to get a Political Alliance against russia basically and china but youre absolutely right what has the military alliance to do with this you have to see that theyre not only is treated in the best connected hospital with the German Government and Nato Secret Services so there should be a coincidence and i think that at least alliance what the German Government has to say is true with the nato and i think theres a bigger agenda behind it do you think what the German Government. Is doing is is the correct approach even for them talking to ally nato but really putting russia to one side and saying we dont need your involvement this is what we are saying because if this is a chemical weapons probe which theyre saying it is investigations surely need to happen at the alleged crime scene so russia needs to be involved. You know theres exactly look for it they dont involve russia because they have 2 things the russian hospitals to find anything so now this very political aspect of our something thats pretty or. Even worse even the more severe thing is that the German Government can really not have for anymore to make more support to us against the German Economy and the not droop project its especially important to abet area where mrs merkel is elected it is for home. County where she is elected from 1st secondly. Everybody knows now that the future economy are now us are in eurasia so maybe even russia and everything that is between so everybody is already changing for being a good buddy for russia and the other us might call went to russia. For a better relationship everybody tries so the German Governments probably d got behind that they were cheated from their partners on there not to us to stop working together with russia because the us want to Work Together with russia and so i think they dont want to be so much any more of a base of the right if i could just before you came on the program you may have heard me speaking to our correspondent who was going through the chalk extremely potent it is and anyone who comes into contact with it is likely to fall seriously ill and youll recall thats what happened in salzburg in the u. K. In 28 dean but it didnt happen in toms the russian city were in a vulnerable as allegedly attacked before he took his flight i would suggest that that side of things needs to be investigated before. Or these allegations are put on there as if they are fact well that is why number one number 2 is that all the west some secret services have the same lineup so this to use this poison doesnt mean anything who would have done it it couldnt even be the private donators for his campaign there are involved big names like are we. Could be involved in this i mean we still are in this. Narrative just government do we have a stooge networks were operating worse who even are able to give the president of the United States are you so got 3 so just call the russian government they have to declare what happened there this is just ridiculous ok what we do have to say we can substantiate any any claims made against individuals but we really do appreciate you coming on the program and sharing your thoughts views on our big news story of the day i care how my economist and publisher are speaking to us from germany. Well. Ok lets move on to more world news on the program today i start in france with her all other stories because a trial relating to the 2015 terrorist attacks got under way today when and still no 14 people stand accused of involvement in the wave of terror that shook the french capital 5 years ago he said magazine surely abdo was one of the main targets of the attacks alongside a jewish supermarket putting that together the ramifications what it all means why today so significant charlotta been skin part. Well Charlie Hebdo is back in the spotlight here in france and thats because as that trial is underway that important trial its decided to take a Bold Decision according to some some of described it perhaps as being more idiotic and that is to republicans some of its most controversial cartoons which depict the prophet mohammed the muslim prophet now it was those types of cartoons that were published by the magazine that initially put a target on its back and led to that attack back in 2015 in which 12 people were murdered now back then the world came out in support singhs use free sharlee saying they supported the right of the magazine its freedom of speech to publish cartoons like that but by republishing these cartoons again today a montage of them it has reignited the debate here in france over whether or not its ok to blast fim now there has been some polls done the news that Charlie Hebdo was reprinting some of those cartoons and its really interesting the results that have come out this is a poll thats been done by the French Institute of Public Opinion now it found when it asked the french people in general what they thought was this the right thing to do and that the majority of people supported the decision supported the freedom of speech of Charlie Hebdo but when you narrow that field down and only asked that question to french muslims there was a very different response was 69 percent responding that they didnt think it was right to publish those cartoons in the 1st place now everybody seems to be getting involved in this issue from the president right the way across through social media everybody has an opinion and those opinions are polarized there isnt franzl a freedom to blast fim which is attached to freedom of conscience im here to protect all these freedoms and why would you allow a publication to wreck your kid. Harmony. This is not freedom of speech this is disrespect in the sentiments of all the muslims around the world still pined in behind freedom of speech it doesnt give people the right to say whatever they want to choose decency and their ticket so freedom of speech will again be used as an excuse to hurt muslim sentiments and our beliefs and while we condemn these actions openly vehemently no heed will be paid because who cares about muslim sentiments anyway now this trial is hugely important not just because its about the attacks but its also about the attacks that took place a few days later on a kosher supermarket here in paris where more people were killed and what the National Anti terror prosecutor here in france are said while this might not be about the men that carried out those attacks because they are dead this is about that why do web individuals who supported them who perhaps finance them or shielded them in the aftermath of those attacks and this also comes as font says interior minister warns that while this trial is about the historical event an event that is still something that is poignant in french memory there is also something that we must remember he talked about and that is the fact that there is still a huge threat of terror here in france it is the internal threats within our walls which has become the most significant and the strongest one which mobilizes the most attention of the Intelligence Services are now also talked about more than 8000. 00 individuals still being on a french database of suspected islam ists that could potentially pose a Security Threat here in france and he said that their full attention was needed on those individuals talking about the resilience of networks such as Islamic State and he also mentioned the number all. Of individuals in prison that are connected to islam is threats and talked about the vatican is ation in prisons he said that the majority of those individuals who were radicalized in prisons have then gone on to commit their own terror offenses when theyve been released now the trial is about those 2 massacres that surely abdo and the kosher supermarket here in paris and they heralded in a wave of terror that is and compassed france now for more than 5 years. So while many people thought the focus would be on the trial starting in paris many people are now looking at what surely emptier was done with the republic ation of those controversial satirical cartoons of the muslim prophet mohammed with many people questioning whether this was the right decision was this about sort of standing up for freedom of speech was this about remembering those who was slain at its offices or is this something that could really radicalize islamists across the world and incite a new wave of terror. Such a dreadful time that period was and in europe in recent history really we spoke with their french publisher and journalist emerick more feel now hes of the view that some of those defending the magazine are using it to push their own agendas take a listen. These horrible acts

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