Doesnt matter if the bread is mol good or bad or pop rock theyre going to eat it gobble it up and not verify what theyre being fed so you know i spoke to one Emmy Award Winning journalist thats been in the business for a while and she said what reporters dont realize is that theyre contes theyre pawns for political operatives trying to push a narrative out there that they know is false but they know this reporters will eat up anyway because there is no accountability when you get it wrong as were saying right because a new cycle goes on so fast we forget about it and get the clicks and the ratings anyway so it doesnt matter thats your point around general fled there are documents here its interesting how can we get this gotta lie so we can prosecute him i would think that reporters would be 2 things right now pissed off and kerrys and when youre those 2 things thats when youre doing your reporting but instead we dont see it at all we saw them put adam schiff on the air for 3 years adam schiff isnt michael evan oddie of lawmakers ok now remember have an avi you know he was. Kemo news hundreds of reported lawyer thats now angry words yes i heard somebody call him that once on cable news hundreds of times even touted as a president ial candidate and you know what yes president right now the cellblock at rikers but still we put this guy in there all the time just like we did chef and the wall street Journal Editorial Board give them credit because they said dont put this guy on air again it may seem to me he is not to be believed youre going to see a lot more adam schiff and anybody who reports on Michael Flanagan Catherine Herridge of c. B. S. News all now just right wing reporting and conspiracy theories and this is why i trust the media is where it is right now an American Society somewhere around where we view lights and thats not and. Its very interesting can we be f. B. I. Knew long before to use the. Dossier this new us they they knew it was make or break not using it they willingly use this document and then they did they knew it wasnt. Accurate but they still use it for a finds of warrants i mean its the same thing with joe if youre saying to me we have you have reporters knowingly know that this is an arse its a hoax but they go along with it anyway because it serves a political purpose 1st and foremost so great and an ideological one on top of that ok i mean i well hes made it clear i program i dont really care one way or another about it in the white house ok they come and go ok with this type of behavior if that isnt put in check now will be common normal weight and thats certainly not what you want down so kim and i mean it again you know theres a theres no self interest action no matter what the democrats the introspect after the 2016 election theyre doing it again theyve been hell theyve been shown to be. Showing that they were brutal pursuing a hoax its been shown to be a hoax and now theyre saying theyre going to bigger and us and say were the ones that are conspiring to look for a way to protect attorney general barr i dont think any of us. Doing that at all go ahead. Now i mean you know what it really comes down terry is that the media is really just focused on getting clicks you know im not really 100 percent in the im not 100 percent certain that media is actually part of that in any way i mean they are part of any and that you know that when youre watching fox youre going to get a certain viewpoint if youre watching c. N. N. Youre going to get another i dont know if fundamentally theyre at their core partisan i think what they are is their Media Entertainment theyre trying to get clicks they understand that they need ad revenue they need to they they need eyeballs and they know that emotion sells and so what they do is they fear monger they find a conspiracy that they can get anything salacious that they can just latch on to scandal or controversy conflict in some way and they use that in order to make gobs and gobs of money theyre using our emotions and not the attention to reality yet it him to get peoples lives destroyed in the process and i mean i and i think thats something we have to take me out on me whats going on in hollywood who sleeping with whom and you know whos getting divorced that i mean i guess thats all kind of little lady and all that you know in the end that was the sense it would be agency but theres a lot of people who just chewed up and spit it out and some people are going to prison and you know her and thats why joe i can go back to you i think that thats the difference between clit taking that which i know exactly what it is but at a certain point in the devalue institutions and very ideas that like me you cant trivialize there are certain things you shouldnt trivialize because its dangerous go ahead. Lets look at michael example exactly were talking about clinton team and his audience and the clinton ended up stealing that as far as just corporate for instance and make more sense and remember 20162015 when President Trump then can a trump announces his candidacy hes on their show. Oh on a regular basis phone interviews to the point where publications like Rolling Stone are calling them out for hes interviews are way too soft theyre way too friendly youre going to put this guy in the white house if you keep propping him up like that and sure enough the president captures then candidate trump captures the primary nomination and the Party Nomination and then suddenly joe meek a term on trump now that they suddenly change their minds now they got out of them what they wanted and then they realize are going to be ostracized the hamptons the Upper West Side of manhattan which if they continue to look like theyre supporting him right and now theyre the most staunch critics on trump you just laugh at it because you know its not serious because well why didnt they speak out against him in 20152016 then i see the never trumpeters that are on the air mccall all former all i begin joe biden ok. Well there may be more actually right you see Rick Wellstone you see Nicolle Wallace you see on and of are all these republican strategists where i cant name one campaign theyve actually ever won in the past 15 years but theyre put out as socalled republicans and then what their job is to speak out against trying to give the viewer the idea that even people in his own party are against him until you look at gallup polling and hes the highest of any president in terms of Party Loyalty and history so thats the thing this is all a game i dont think really that the ana navarro is of the world either she was a never republican or b. Now she really doesnt hate trump or Nicolle Wallace hate trump much as they do it just gets them to our next contract it gets them attention and love on social media so when people ask me is there bias i agree with him i think you have to probably is some bias there is some activism but in the end the end this is all bad acting like cinemax at 3 oclock in the morning bad acting people are just doing it to get people what they want to hear instead of. Really with both of you that youve been here what is the purpose of journalism i mean maybe we should just say journalism doesnt exist anymore and this is all entertainment its a serious question you know beat the. Again like i said to me you have left. Youre going to have the f. B. I. Investigating the next president ial candidate ok i mean this is there is consequences with this behavior other than trying to garner clicks and celebrity. Others absolutely really journalism is dead unfortunately there is how i mean you have to think about logistically how would you even support journalism right now with the with the media the way that theyre supported is through advertisement dollars so theyre looking for emotion theyre looking for clicks they need salacious headlines so then your other option would be what government funding well is the government going to Fund Journalism thats going to be criticism criticizing the government so really a very good journalist coming to look at p. B. S. That is not you logically driven. And you go yes i agree yes so it you know where could you find a real journalist who would fund that real journalism journalism is expensive those of us who are in independent media it is extremely difficult for us to to manage i mean just to put on a show like i do online and and then you know i dont have journalists on the ground that are going out investigating thats a lot of money where would i get that money so the real problem with journalism and there are so many stories and so much information out there you know to try to pursue something where youre going to have a constant refreshed news cycle every single day thats a lot of people you have to support that that that that you know enter enterprise somehow so thats the big question is how do you support authentic journalism needing the amount of money that its going to take without them turning into this the same what were saying with every single socalled institution of journalism out there from Washington Post to New York Times to stand and say i am as n. B. C. Fox now all of them how do we do it thats the big question well you know so jim were just stuck with tribalism tribalism 2 that some people confront and support i mean if you look over. The interest ok they have they have allowed me well that can you know give them money to do investigative reporting and its a real links back. But you know but also you know i find it really very tragic because were here with the model that it came as describing which i think hes right then there is really no coming together we have to live with our visions and unfortunately its only getting worse go ahead i agree with ken and i understand her context which is political media and she laid out the networks that were talking about writing cable news or New York Times Washington Post right places you could still get decent journalism now maybe not that it wont go heavy on the National Stories but i still think my local news is still good you know id still good because i dont see any of them injecting their dear diary opinions and the reporting its this fire happened here this person unfortunately got killed here this team won and heres your Weather Forecast so least i know i can get it bear so that at least is comforting on some level and im sorry if you hear my my 4 year old yelling she had made a comment in a shot but then you know 100 seconds i think i saw your dog running behind my back hurts basically a military its quite possible you should know i did you know it really is it it really is the model that were having to deal with but it is politicized and im really worried about it because we have to account so kind of trust in some some things that are that we all can agree upon if we cant do that were in trouble ok were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on the media landscape. The world is driven by shaped by. Thinks. We dared to ask. Him. In. The lead. In. The end. Welcome back to cross up where all things are considered im Peter Lawwell to remind you were discussing the media landscape. Can let me go to you and i noticed that we had chris hayes from m. S. N. B. C. Give a major interview it was better to be fair and then i thought it really i dont know anyone lets remember that chris hayes is supposed to be the smart one over m. S. N. B. C. He supposed to be the intellectual over there and number one during all of this you never had a confrontational guest on his program not once. Not once i dont think i missed and b c in general ebert. Asks news doesnt all the time but i give them credit for particularly on Tucker Carlson is not but most of his program is about 5050 which i think he stands unique in the media. When it go it going back to chris hayes if you if you just spill his interview on what happened as embassy and the scene he said the russians made him do it now its heres some context one of my favorite films is dr strange well and remember Brigadier General jack ripper remember that crazy general that you know that launches the b. 52 and he was saying that you know the russians have him over infiltrated and poisoned our bodily fluids and i couldnt believe that that someone of chris hayes a statue or at emmis n. B. C. Could say that and get away with it i mean there is no agency nobody has any agent. Thats exactly when the peddlers of this hoax did they you know its not our fault they were reacting to what someone is doing it was just exactly what is being done to them again that is such a total just service to journalists go ahead well i didnt know chris hayes was the intellectual want to read everything. That was filthy Rachel Maddow our somebody. You know and i didnt catch his interview this whole this whole narrative that has just continued on for what now 70 years i think is ringback where were at with the whole u. S. Russia. Conflict and of course there were some points where it was very legitimate. And you know but but since then its just become this its become insane i mean its it really is truly insane and theres never an apology theres never a correction if there is a correction its buried somewhere very small where no ones paying attention to it because everyone latched onto the salacious headline of russia hacked vermonts electricity grid or russia hacked into cspan or you know theres all of these different hoke says that a bit that it that they have claimed oh you know russia did it russia made me do it russia put trump and power russia you know russia russia russia all the time. You know and theres never any any chance to look at oneself and say maybe we did something wrong maybe were the ones that are upsetting the voters maybe maybe we no longer represent the American People and instead theyre trying to paint this dichotomy well its either you go you know youre with us because were americans or if youre not with us then youre with russia which is not america we cant you know if there is no you just said. You know joe one of the interesting things that you know i have noticed is that it and this is my theory about the hoax of russia gate hoax is that it was one way for the democrats not to have any introspection after 2600. Youre absolutely right if you want to blame someone for trump selection blame the media i mean all they did was demonize him and anyone that would vote for him well you know the rest dont like to be demonized theyre doing it again in this election cycle i mean they focus all their anger on the wrong issues ok because i can i was i grew up in a red state i dont like health then the National Media the bi coastal media talks about Middle America clinton really. Condescending and rude and arrogant very very arrogant and theyre doing it all over again and number 2 it is to keep the that the left together because one of the interesting thing about this is if you had civil libertarians cave on this one its very interesting theyve been completely changed on this and its i think its really remarkable for the end of this primary that the democrats that late again Anonymous Sources the kremlin is supporting bernie ok again theyre using this to carouse people and what it and of course bertie you know has no backbone at all he didnt fight back you would have issued as if this is you get into this again joe was i know he can form and so its a very interesting way they keep the left under control particularly in the insurgents of the progressive which is they are under control now because you have nowhere else to go which is their usual mantra its very tricky and theres nothing as ive said many times in this program theres not much russia or russians in russia ok its really of trying to control the political and media landscape in the u. S. I think about the premise of the whole russia hack in 2016 election thing for a moment ok because they bought minimal ads on facebook a fraction of what the clinton and Trump Campaign spent on bashing each other that somehow it changed the election where lets say im supporting Hillary Clinton and im on facebook im. Look at you know some my friends kids get yours and then this adds up and i say you know a lot going that makes a good point i like taylor but i think im going to support from now one person does dads. And not only does that i get a robo call being like you know youre making a good point here why dawkin back to me its so that part is ridiculous and i think a lot of journalists think that their viewers are stupid and maybe they are brainwashed to a certain extent because again they want to hear what they want to hear and instead of what they should be hearing right i saw joy reid over the weekend shes on m s n b c you know one of the electoral ones that said that you know we should come to the point now that we have to accept that President Trump may not embrace the results of the 2020 alexion but i look at the big think that this is from 2016 because thats what i said about trump and no and who is the day who is the candidate who did not accept the results Hillary Clinton has been the public therapy door for the last 3 years talking about how she should have won the election and instead of saying you know i probably should have campaign in wisconsin i guess my final note is dr strangelove you brought up jack tripper was in that i thought he was in. The river where it per not tripper ok because jack tripper was in the a. B. C. Comedy Threes Company and then eventually despite all jacks piece trail thats a tangent dont mean to go off on that one final serious point to those in Middle America you grew up in or red state the reason why the 2016 election everybody says oh my god we didnt see this coming how could that possibly be because theyre going to stay in their ivory towers known as t. V. Studios in washington and new york and washington donald trump got 4 percent of the vote in manhattan he got 10 percent of the vote and thats where all political media is concentrated of course are going to hide mentality and you may miss whats happening in wisconsin pennsylvania michigan and ohio where the election was won and its probably going to happen here again because no one learns to kens point theres no accountability theres no introspection and i dont think its not because they dont want to do it no actually they dont want to do it. You know. Given that the introspection that the d. N. C. And the democrats had from 2016 theres one very important lesson to be drawn from that if you run for president have those macedonians on your side because it seemed like they chipped in ok jim you know one of the bombshell over the last few days and im using it no legitimate way not like how that were phrase was abused for 3 and a half years is that we had testimony from Ships Committee that the the c. E. O. Of crowd strike then you know made it the russians for a behind it happened on their servers well in testimony under oath facing the charge of perjury said no we dont have any evidence of it at all if that was not reported widely what so ever that is one of the triggers for what weve gone through the last rina half years and i remember during the last 3 and a half years talking to people that were experts in the field and they said yeah thats probably people and it probably was a leak probably not a hack but you know we need to look at the server and now the whole basis or one of the foundations of this so its been can completely dispel and dismiss and theres no reaction to it i mean the thing was on it obviously now is on plan because its a very personal story but you know one of the whole foundations of it has been blown away and there is no introspection this is why theyre going to continue to lose ok and i think thats objective because if you cant understand your own actions and behavior how can you navigate your way through the next president ial cycle i dont think that they have the capacity to do it go ahead well you know and what the real losers are everybody in america its not just the democrats that are losing on that its when the media and even officials and government make it sound like our democracy and our nation is so real and were so still bad American People are so. That we could just allow russia russia russia. And advertisements on facebook or you know all of these were writing things that are saying oh you know russia did it russia debt its just making america look very very weak it makes us look like we just you know were just built on a house of cards that are just collapsing underneath underneath us just because somebody put a advertisement on social media or made a bot that started spreading you know that started to amping up twitter at trans these things everybody in america lives and its not just the democrats that are losing but its all about us its just making us look like fools you know thats exactly true and again from my bar away per ive often thought about how could the strongest most powerful country in the history of the world be so very vulnerable to some teenagers in St Petersburg 300 kilometers away from me here and those those kids broke from the. Group when they were indicted by mohler and when the case went to court the mother team walked away because these kids said well you have a judicial system we understand we want discovery what do you how about us and as soon as they were asked that they close the case because they didnt have any discovery i mean then what this is is that its a. Make it what you will of democracy but its the rule of law ok because when those indictments were made i remember the reasons in comes out its a big breaking news story all the networks are covering it and it was all nonsense it was absolutely all nonsense and again how many people know that that piece was dropped homes no one but when it was when it was when the charges money made it was news all over the world joe so i mean finish it up you know for us me again but i guess Im Old School here i believe in some form of a. Countability are we going to get any good 30 seconds here the bow tie absolutely makes you old school and i say that the most complimentary of ways believe me when i say i mean they are cut to ok back quote while we are concentrating so much on russia right and then eventually impeachment as it is pertain to ukraine in january and february and there were much of president ial debates a. B. C. N. B. C. C. B. S. In february only one question over hundreds of questions on coronavirus and you didnt hear what the democrats had to say about that so while were focusing on something that was a story we missed the big story which wasnt russia was china it was rouhani and it was the corona virus that now has wreaked havoc on this country in a way we havent seen since the great well and in the list none of them are going to say oops ok unfortunately thats all the time we have i want to thank my guests in los angeles and in new jersey and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here in r. C. 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