On his skills he thinks hes vastly underrated todays guest says professional wrestler actor media personality mike the ms mazatlan mike is best known for wrestling with the w w e and his career as a successful Reality Television star it appeared on m. T. V. s real world way back when he was in new york and the m. T. V. Reality championship series the challenge from 2000 to 2005 and he also hosted several seasons of the show and mike has a new show i think it might be called cannon ball or is that just a thought bubble over a said on usa network it airs thursdays at 8 pm the miss would shake a big man a aus it go and thank you very much for having me on the show i love being your plus one and that your 30 year old son is a huge fan of may you know im glad hes in that 18 to 49 demographic so its young kid you know basically knows his stuff. Well you know its funny to me about my son dare i say i think all parents and you have 2 kids now well talk about a bit but you always think your kids are bright very bright you know my son and he loves it and he also loves the u. S. C. And i said to them what would be the difference to you and he said that he thinks of wrestling while theres a foreman in europe called comedia del art which is sort of good bad a metaphor good versus evil its almost like what ground up products are built a lot and he says hes fascinated by the w. W. From that aspect is you kind of sense that right in a way i think i think that people. I remember when i was a kid and the reason i loved it was the larger than life characters theres an energy to it i love the warrior i love the pain on the face streamers on the arms running out to his music like whenever out hears music i would just cheer and think he is the greatest thing in the world and these guys were like larger than life and a soap opera like story lines you know who you hate sharing who you love you know normally we have 10 to 20000 people in our audience you know booing made telling me i suck which i miss right now but believe it or not but. Theres nothing quite like it out there and people always ask whats it like being a deputy superstar now we tell him like i cant describe it to you because youre not there or youre not doing it you know you wouldnt understand it kind of be like you trying to describe weekend update to me and i dont know i think thats something thats just indescribable about your experiences there. Well i separating said at terry jones as house for they wrestle mania that one year i must been 100000 people there i remember vince a son went off offense for 20 i think landed on the table i was sitting rod 63 i looked about kid i said i dont know if this is flat out what ive always to fly into sport but this is Amazing Entertainment there was a buzz its a little bit of everything its borenstein or tame its comedy its drama you know speaking of Shane Mcmahon son of Vince Mcmahon who youre talking about i wrestled Shane Mcmahon at met life stadium in front of 80000 people and i suplex to him off of a 20 foot scaffolding and let me tell you it was a very far drop and believe it or not my 6 year old dad got into the ring because he didnt like Shane Mcmahon beating me up this was before obviously the 20 foot drop but i yeah like shane was beating me my dad didnt really like that he actually got in the ring and then Shane Mcmahon actually beat him up which was kind of went along the story but it was one of my dads favorite things he has a meme out there right now on twitter that literally he went viral like its him try to i told him i said debt if youre going to get in the ring make sure you get your fighting stance on you get ready to fight and so literally gets in the ring and he just does this like hes like at 1950 hes like but im not but im up its like oh my god im in the desert and so your advice. You know ms when i watch it to me its like there is people say well its not its not a sport though but i defy anybody to tell me its not like its like gymnastics with amazing variables that i dont want i watch and i feel like im watching a gymnastic meet not watching my son wants obama u. F. C. Fantasized watch these things the bond with my kids and i watch it i think why dont flat out know that that guys hitting that guys head office at a metal steps as a matter of fact i know that i said i can suspend my belief on that but i do know when a cat gets up on the top thing. Or backwards he risks breaking his neck and thats the danger implies a lot of systems and i look at it as a sport you know people can look at it really when i also look at it as an art its an art form on what we do i look at it as the art of special wrestling and theres nothing quite like it people were asking me with with this hosting cannonball like are you nervous its a new thing i go this is a really new to me because in w w e it is prepared me for all walks of entertainment in all walks of performance because were live its like sound i live like youre live you get one tape to do or you flub a word you mess up a joke you have to keep going same thing in w w e you have to keep going so with hosting cannonball and doing comedy i gamble im used to that because we do it all the time in w w e so im very thankful for the opportunities ive been given to perform in front of a Live Audience each and every week maybe not now but before. While we got plenty of time to let this breathe and i do want to talk about cat and bob but a somebody right in the main connector of the be a debbie right now i just want to close by asking you i see it as a hard life i mean i see it a circus maximus when youre in the ring and it must be a gas to have people jacked up like that the walk and i see all of it its not the walk in and its the trip. Is it in between things its the 220 night senior i dont know that there everybodys on a g 5 go on between gigs seems like a tough gig and now that you have 2 babies and theyll grow up someday and wrestling will be with us forever is it something youd steer your kids away from eventual. Im a big believer and if my kids want to do something i want to give them to tools to be able to do whatever their jeems have i think thats every parents goal is if your kid has a dream you want to make sure that they have the tools they want to be a piano player youre going to give them the best piano player you put piano you possibly cant you get him the best teacher you possibly can so one of my daughters wants to be a w w e superstar i dont think theres any better teacher than me so ill definitely teach him how to do it because honestly its changed my life and allowed me to live the life ive always wanted to do as a child i grew up idolizing superstars and now here i am with children idolizing me and its a dream come true and im im a former intercontinental former United States former Debbie Debbie tag team you name it ive done it so i feel very fortunate to be able to do that. Were talking to the miss and were talking wrestling but i want to move it over to the show now you can see that hes got a show here and its called cannon ball its on the new essay network it airs thursdays at 8 pm i see a lot of these shows and this one seems like when Cirque Du Soleil did the water show over there. Really predicated on the they ahd would tell me about the show ms tell me what part and you know what are the contestants planned for the taglines it is its the biggest west wildest water sports competition out there and you know it really truly yes when i drove up to the set i looked at it it is a huge water park that is unlike anything youve ever seen we have a 100 foot mega slide where contestants slide down going 70 miles an hour get launched in the air 80 feet in the air and then some of the challenges that are that theyre launching into is like the human dart where they have a target that they have to hit and its called human dart for a reason you are the darts and you have to hit it with any part of your body we have a drop tower that drops a 5 pound cannon ball on an airbag and youre on the opposite side of that airbag so youre flying 70 feet in the air and you have a net yet to catch all these balls but the best part about my job is watching the contestants the contestants are so different than any any competition youve ever seen like we have n. C. A. A. Cleaved athletes we have people that never step foot inside a a gym we have people that are shaped like animals we have people we have to confront 4 year old woman who is more ripped than i am we have a guy that is a cat daddy be called something get it because hes got a bunch of cats got stay at home fathers its just all walks of life are a cannonball and theyre vying for 10000. 00 and honestly i didnt know or think that cannonball could change lives on like this is a game show its for fun but one. The guys the show has been airing for quite a bit now for like 3 episodes and one of the winners said we asked him what he going to do with the money he said im going to buy a ring for my longtime girlfriend ask her to marry me and the next day after it aired i saw on instagram that she said yes you had a ring on her finger and everything so i was like man can both change their lives here. You know im amazed that ms i always think of warhol who seemed like a bit of a caprice assault of a way back when an interesting pop artist spent his his statement that in the future everybody would be famous for 15 minutes as i look back is almost nostradamus like it is predict quality but the thing im a namrud of is im surprised how many people take their 15 minutes so earnestly i watch these reality competition shows and you most might go into watching them with your eyebrow askew thing you know what is this about ninja stuff all that stuff and these people are so earnest about it that i dare i say i find it kind of touching house how much this matters to them their moment now they want to knock it out of the park youre talking to a guy who is supposed to only have 15 minutes of fame im from the real world remember 20 years ago i did the real world and people said id be done and thats my 15 minutes of fame but i i was motivated i had was determined now you bring it back you are contestants on cannon ball i think theyre just having fun and they just want something to do that one of the guys is name was Dominic George gianni and he was afraid of heights and he just goes there is a d. Im like still 3 to heights man and i just dont know why im here but i think the reason eases because i just want to conquer my sphere of heights and he did exactly that and he did actually really well if so if you want to conquer your fear of heights come on down to cannonball will conquer it real quick. Were talking the effervescent mike the ms mazatlan and we can talk about his you know his bride also have a reality show marie so i think its theres a funny to read there and sweet together its a very modern relationship were talking today about cannonball and its on usa network it airs thursdays at 8 pm you can always catch up now. Stuff stream so he says there are 2 apps then you better get the 3rd this thursday though you know want to get to 4 and then you end up not watching it you know i sometimes ill wait 5 episodes in and i dont get the something because im super r. B. I. So jump on this thursday go back and get the other 2 cannibal it airs thursdays at 8 pm well be right back with the ms well talk a little real world i want to see what his high school crosscountry time was to i meant just not all that with the miss on Dennis Miller plus one right after this. A short term ago an american air play ground floor on hiroshima. State nothing any. Typical cast and crew do only diligently you. Can its. Like most americans growing up after the war the bombs were a great thing they ended the war they say hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides and thats what my grandfather always said mrs reason for the decision. Truman was hoping for a dual strategy one has to drop the bombs and hope that japan would surrender to number 2 the americans were trying to send a message to the soviet union there was american poor plenty to eat on the road and can support his life he had chosen 20 targets in russia. You cannot be vulgar with yet you like. 5050. 50. Hey folks welcome back to Dennis Miller plus one today the one is the very congenial mike the ms mazatlan and you know him from the w w e n before that as a babe in the woods real world in 2001 hes got a new show called cat and ball on the usa network exceed the logo behind him there are only 2 into their run so you can pick it up and then thursday get back on the the real time schedule at 8 pm on usa network you know as i you know i look back. I was watching an interesting theres a series that you would love coming from the real world it was made by the b. B. C. It started in 1964 it was called beat up series where they visit back with a group of kids every 7 years theyre now up to 63 up 56 up theyve been interviewing the same get group of kids was 7 years in between i look back at real world on the eyes and i think its easy to sort of test to see that these shows but that show after an initial role i got so real i thought oh this is kind of an interesting sociological study relief to see how this works i know its a perfect but the see how interaction works like that what you are memories of it miss its funny that you say that because hi how you say that because when i got done doing the real world back to new york season 10 by the way in like 2000 i had colleges calling me out saying hey would you like to do a speech at her college to basically motivate our kids cant give them you know what your experience was like because its so much like college and i was like you guys do realize you never graduated college right like yeah so you want to come educate your students and what its like going to college when i think graduate college i went to my to ohio but real roots beyond it and so i would go to schools and i would do motivational speeches to college kids all the time because it was so much like the College Experience you know going on the. Real world i was a kid from parma ohio never really i traveled here and there but i never got out of my harm ohio bubble until i got on the real world and it brought me into new york city and let me tell you something there is no faster city than new york and i was eyes wide open i had no idea i was a little uncomfortable i was an outcast on the show but i created this character called ms on the show which is basically a person that would tell everyone like it was and people started respecting and liking the minutes more than they liked mike and it was interesting to me and i was like wow it was a really incredible experience but and it taught me a lot about new york city where i would have to be a billionaire in order to live there happily. While when youre a kid in parma ohio and you think about getting out and going to miami youre thinking about the university which is ok. But i didnt get turned up there in ohio by the way i wanted to esther real quickly im always fascinated i was talking to alice cooper recently been sent fornia it to you and when vince was in call when in high school he held the Arizona State Cross Country record and i wonder what your time was you know i see that im going i was like i was i dont think ive ever gotten the Cross Country record but i was the captain of the Crosscountry Team captain of the normandy Baseball Team played basketball i swam here i played football i just loved sports so i was really really in involved in that has always loved athletics i love competition. Well certainly being in primetime not youre in for the competition here like theres a lot of things to snag peoples attention out there and the misses 1 on kanimbla on usa network it airs thursday at 8 pm look how smooth getting it slipping these plugs it now i know you really should baby just really got some really nail it down i feel like youre doing a bit like on s n l and blah usa network and then every 5 seconds like kid law on the usa network i feel like were doing it right were what got a still the so what are we a choke because the sport were going to end the exact. Brings to get is. That the game. On the u. S. Did network. I was just watching the History Channel and somebody fired a cannonball into fort sumpter theyre now on doing subliminal so tell me about your babies man you got 2 young girls tell me about your wife marie she guys have really i let me show trudeau in yeah we have a reality show on on usa network ms and mrs new episodes are coming in the fall its basically about my entire family which is myself my wife maries who is a former or still a w e superstar and as well as shes a former. Womens champion and then we have 2 daughters a 2 year old and a 10 month old and he think that household is a no no we have more we have 2 dogs you 2 cats we have 2 moms in the house yes i have my mother and my mother in law living with us right now as we speak it is absolutely pandemonium all the time in this household. Its like the waltons meets noahs ark you got a paring of everything rather if the rains come you can float away and have your entire life in the household so yeah there i would i want to ask you missed seeing as you start i guess you gravitated towards the real world you must i went to it from ohio i dont think they were out there scanning for paypal so you had to go solicit that thing after how do you know did you say youre in youre hired these are hearing years old. Is so not spending lightly on how your office is that was 19 years ago with the real world youre right i had to go looking for it so i was watching the rebels in new orleans which is the previous season the one that i was on and i saw a commercial and i said i was there like do you want to track down i was like i do you want to try out well sit in the video so i made this video on a v. H. S. By the way because back then we didnt have our little camera phones that you know its hat today so i had a v. H. S. I remember putting press editing it by pressing play and record on my v. H. S. Videos because i always would record everything off might big huge v. H. S. Camera and so so yeah i sent in a video and back then there wasnt all these reality shows there was like maybe 4 or 5 like now every every every network has 4 or 5 different reality shows there was only one or 2 or 3 back then and so there was like 100100000 people trying out and i remember everyone telling me like whats going to stand out from all those people i dont know but im going to do it. Well it sounds like concocting the ms character at some point broke i dont think everybody in there was Walking Around doing a dual character track so that probably puts you in good stead as far as the producers ago im sure they like that i have to ask them as one when people ask me about showbusiness they asked me if its harsh world and you know i dont say this dismissively because its been very very good to me as they say but i dont know if its interesting nuff to my core life to ever have it devastate me do you know what i mean its like youve got those babies youve got that wife youve got to make a living i understand that but everybodys well at the moment all that and i always find showbusiness when people get disappointed and that i always think how do you let it get that far in your head its a bit of a caprice its a risk that the juices in the game how do you find showbusiness as it lay it down or do you keep it at arms length like i do to some extent as of right now it hasnt let me down and ive heard these stories when i was on the real world i would have a lot of people that were on the road that you know is is good experiences i had they said that you know they edited me wrong or did this wrong and honestly i if you are who you are until i met a lot of people when you meet them in person they are completely different person than who they are on camera and theyve more or less at them themselves and then who they see on camera they say thats not me and its like no thats the person i saw that you on camera that was you then so some people get aggravated by that some people get mad and some people get mad at the fact that theyre not where they are in the think he should be and you get bitter you get angry and you know into you we sometimes im not the focal point and i want to be the focal point so i look at and i go ok how can i be the focal point how can it be the person that is talked about thats on all the posters thats the job. We or universal champion and i always blame myself and i dont think a lot of people blame themselves in hollywood i think they blame casting directors i think the playing directors and blame editors it blame everybody else besides themselves and im always a person i would blame myself im the reason i am not where i want to be and so right now i am exactly where i want to be im hosting cannonball i have my own reality show biz and misses and i love it like i love my family being around like ive never seen my dad more than i have when being on missing misses and shooting businesses and then as far as w w e like im happy where i am and people are like well youre not in the w w were universal championship picture and its like im going to be there right now but its like a wave and it goes up and down and right now im writing it and im going to keep writing it until it goes back up again so i guess my best advice i can give and i dont know if youre asking for a 5 vice but i think the best advice i can give to anyone in the entertainment business that is a little bit or a little angry to keep trying to figure out what youre doing wrong and try to find the tools to do it like when i wanted to be a superstar i didnt just go and try to become a w. B. Super so you just dont do that you you have to find independent wrestling school that teaches the art of fresh wrestling not only that i would move to l. A. I got acting classes i went to improv i went to ground things i went to improper lympics i tried to find all the tools i possibly could to become the best superstar i possibly could so i guess that is my my best advice to anyone out there thats better good advice brother were got some questions ms obviously tell you what the fans are loyal. You put up the chair coming off and questions its like Country Music you know i can see why people do those jam boris every year and that because if you get made not by the mafia but by the Country Music fans of the wrestling fads youre made for life theyll forgive me a lot. Stuff and stay with you and so on we said your comment on questions out there was a we got jenny our back on facebook and i think i from hearing you talk know the answer to this but jenny asked what what have you liked better Reality Television or theyd be on big extended right its not even its not even close i would say w w it was always my dream it was always my dream like ever since i was a child and now i get to be here and get to perform and just and do what i love and now like you know if you look at ms and mrs with my family i guess you can say its evolved like so you know you ask that question im like oh what you have are not but then you got to we 2nd real world gave you my start if it wasnt for the real world i wouldnt be where i am today then you look at were ive come today where its like im with ms and mrs im with my wife and one of my daughters im with my dad my parents like i dont its a tough decision but i think as a child child me would say. Well listen as you say tom wolfe the great writer a bonfire of the vanities wrote a brilliant book called a man in full f u l l was about well you sound like a man in full to me it sounds like its clicking on all cylinders and obviously everybody has to wait until this corona plays up before we get back into our endeavors in public but i sense a happy fulfilled man and if you want to see them as mike has a show called cannonball on the usa network its it airs on thursdays at 8 pm my son who like i said is a big fan i said what can i expect from this cat and he said i think hes a really good guy dad you realize hes in the villain role to a large degree or a lot of people yell at adam and stuff like that he said but i sense an intelligence there and he seems like a nice man indeed you are my kid had a good read i told she was smart mits there yes i like him i like them already hes good am i ok yes i play right here is good and he gets its go area jerk. Good to talk to your brother thats the. Dennis miller plus one about aloha folks. Thinking of getting immutably once we got her she was as he didnt know until he was trapped in this tiny little wire be going near the crate with him he was. Freaking out in she want to spray him anywhere near. The leading dogs caged in the in human conditions on puppy farm i mean 67 years you know theyve been locked up in cages outside you see no protection from the weather the heat you know the courtier the rain the snow the funder nothing they have no protection. To take care of you. Its 2 kids. Across the u. S. Cruel puppy mills are supported by dog shows and stores most of the puppies are coming from this large Scale Factory farming kind of operations are being sold in stores even joined a Group Businesses are involved like the mom center there has been a shocking amount of organized opposition to adverts to increase the standards of care for dogs bred in commercial breeding for so many most of that opposition is coming from huge agricultural groups and industries that have nothing to do with jobs dont buy dog. Live from the World Headquarters of our t. America in our Nations Capital this is the news with rick sanchez. Right. Everybody im rick sanchez want to welcome all of you who are watching us all over the world including those of you who are watching us on your phones on the portable t. V. And i want to begin by showing you remarkable images taken by satellites provided by the Russian Space agency. Here it is to take a look at this picture the image that you see on top see the dividing line is the port area and beirut what it looked like before that massive and still some
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