Then eventually your eyes you can completely not see cant breathe and it completely immobilizes you so its not even a affective way for crowds to be dispersed but rather it makes you have to stop you cant see you cant run away with it which then exposes you to hits from baton send a rest in excedrin and i also think that there are long term effects as well as the short term effects of the tear gas that we dont yet know all of the details about you know for people around the world watching they probably dont know or call and is i suppose there have been never reports that its one of their happiest most sought after places to live in the world to tell me just a little bit about poland because i understand even that story isnt true because it mosques or race that race has passed yeah absolutely portland is a beautiful pristine city and there are a lot about it that i like and i think that we can see that many of our Community Members deeply care about our city and thats why weve been out protesting but portland and the state of oregon have a racist past or again it was not a slave state upon its inception but not because it did not. For any moral reasons but rather because it did the oregonian did not want black People Living in the state whether they were slave or not and because of that blacks were excluded from the state of oregon for a very long time there are still deeds to peoples houses that say that they cannot be sold to people that are black that is obviously not enforceable because of interpretations of the constitute. Now but those deeds exist theres a long races history here not just of exclusion but then also of a lack of infrastructure as black communities have flooded in there and thats because of that and then we see gentrification and disparate policing that occurs in portland just as many cities in america. Well what do you think you are democrat of what nancy pelosi said that trump was turning it into a Banana Republic i mean i mean that and itself is a strange phrase to use i can play because it is redolent of us empire in that your hemisphere with you he with. And then trump in suggesting that youre perry and they try and then you live in a Banana Republic thats what they say these pictures show thats on these federal forces in portland maine. Where i think its important to know that this is just a small part of. The entire city is not under siege but i do fear about what this could look like in other cities i do fear about what impact it can have on the election or even our ability to have an election as you know the city is definitely largely democrat and if ringback cities are turned into war zones in the heart of their cities across the country come november it makes it a lot harder to especially at a time in which many places do not have mail in voting and so i do wary about the impacts but i do think that it is also still important to know d that this is not having a huge every day effect on every single persons life in portland but i do think that if elected officials both locally and at the National Level such as nancy pelosi dont do more to protect cities from this sort of an amazing that we could be in a situation that might not necessarily be a banana Banana Republic but does look a lot like fascism. Well a survey donald trump says the mail in Voting System means that you might not even have elections in november you did you did imply that forgetting the. Trump stuff there is some state level responsibility that needs to be taken because ted wheel has been seen as some kind of hero he was hit by sheer gassing self the mayor there is he to blame partly as well because he said the state Security Forces were there before the federal troops and and they too were not policing the demonstrations as they should remain. I think ted will is fully to blame because there are a lot of steps that could have been taken to prevent this sort of federal invasion as i said there were 50 some odd days of protests prior to dharma chums invasion in those protests had nothing to do with donald trump those had to do with our local police and those protests where tear gas in and be in and arrested just the same as the federal officers had been doing so what i would have said is that if ted wheeler would have stood with his people from the beginning if he would have been al in the streets with his own people from the beginning we would have not been in this situation had he not d been trying to demonize protesters himself using the same rhetoric that we had talked about earlier about there being a mile an hour kiss and outside agitators and trying to quell protests himself we would not be in this situation and if he had just simply listened to the demands of the community and how we wanted to reform in the fund in reallocate funds from violent policing into our community at a time during a pandemic where our Community Needs those files if he had done all of those things we would have seen 50 something days of protest and thus the federal officers would have not come in so yes he did stand they get tear gassed one single day his own Police Department threatened to use tear gas and against those same protesters once he had left that night and had also used tear gas and continue to use tear gas against protesters in conjunction with Donald Trumps federal officers well u. N. Permanent Security Council members china Russia Britain france then are raising this at the u. N. Security council and your top law officer in your country bill maher he said your fellow activists are using tasers pellet guns all manner of ammunition against Law Enforcement thats thats the view of your top law officer in your country. I would hesitate to think that he truly believes that and if he does he is having bad information. Ask him to maybe attend these protests and see how peaceful they are we see things like people cooking their 247 and feeding in our houses community we see people just standing there are signs and chanting in so incredibly nonviolent protest that has been cracked down on i think so that images of chaos can be seen in that bureau can then be used for damage charms reelection bid to say that this is the rylan democrats and this is what is coming if you vote for joe biden. But this is trumps america right now in the violence in the chaos that were seeing is being ensued by his federal police force as well as local Police Forces well theres finally joe biden the contender democrat contender in november presumed contender hasnt even been to poland why should anyone in portland expect things to be different if joe biden is the president given well on racial issues hes known of course for opposing the segregation of schools in his background and his past. I think joe biden definitely has a lot of work to do when it comes to ration it but the thing is i believe that he is willing to put in that where can i dont know i think weve seen 4 years of donald trump in a way he is willing to do and i believe that his presidency is an existential crisis but again if the federal troops leave it doesnt matter if joe biden were to send them back or if damage which is send them back we will still see protests in cities across america because. Of these protests the death of george floyd as well as the reminder of all the deaths that have occurred in portland or in play in cities across the country and those usually were happening at state and local levels and they happened during obamas presidency that and during times presidency so theres something very broken with our policing system and regardless of who the president is we have a lot of work as a nation to reconcile that right mcalary stay safe thank you so much for being on the program. Thank you i appreciate it thanks for having me after the break the man who is leading one of the for this to explorations in Human History tells us just how high the stakes are when it comes to a lot being the secrets of the universe full this is all going on in part 2 of going underground. The end of a love story will tensions in the u. S. German relationship determine the fate of nato and if elected will joe biden be americas version of the soviet ruler plenty of fresh. 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Welcome back well in the past few days while weve been on lockdown other people have been going to outer space joining me now from boulder in colorado is alan stern whos been working on a project to the farthest reaches of space allan thanks so much for joining us just tell us 1st about the launch on thursday and what the mission is yeah nasa launched its latest morse rover in the one twip perfectly and the spacecraft is already make contact with the earth and seems to be in good health and is on the on course landings in february and this is really different because this rover is going to cash samples around the surface of mars for another mission to occur. In return to the earth later at 26 and how long is it going to take for all of. Well its probably going to be most of the decade because the return mission hasnt yet been started so theyll get that under way and i think now that this is their launch and whats it like as a scientist working these things out on such big time spans i mean i know you work with Jeff Bezos Blue Origin here he was testifying in congress there are you you work with so many Different Private Companies but youre working on time scales are 10 years 20 years longer. Yes or the mission stay for a long time to take a long time to get funded and then we have to design and build them and then fly them across these enormous distances the solar system so its all about delayed gratification and of course the usual questions of nassers mean asked since its inception is it worth it whats the point maybe you better remind some of our audience about the side effects of what seems like as are tearing expeditions to far off places well to the contrary of course the development of space and Space Exploration as probably changed our world countless ways me take your i saw. Your smartphone whatever it might be that Space Technology that g. P. S. That you use for location for mapping for knowing where you are now Space Technology and then look at the entire tech economy which is fueled by the inspiration of children who want to grow up and be engineers scientists largely because they get hooked on tech through seeing Space Missions that inspire he see me one could say that it was a pride of the United States the Space Program by nasa do you think the millennium inclined towards it because of all the private fun seeping in there its less about the United States and more about these private companies and people ever more suspicious of private companies being involved in space than that the u. S. A as a nation. Well i think the introduction of private space flight has been a tremendous boon for innovation in for driving costs down and that lets us get more done and most of these private companies are after all currently in the United States were just beginning to see a european wave of private spaceflight launch companies eccentric and i cant wait to see that flower. But i mean are there dangers in that there were some reports that when the Space Shuttle tragically blew up it was because of private outroar saying of space flight i mean on this mission that youre working on presumably its all government funding theres no private elements to it. Well the new Horizons Mission is a nasa mission its fairly funded by nasa which is a arm of our federal government and why do you think that congress is mean reluctant to sign off on money that trump wanted to go i think i understand jumper made a request for 25200000. 00 for nasa the house not liking any is monday in political. Parties and issues on the hill that tell you scientists dont really concern yourself with but vaguely understand theyre going to impact your missions yeah well actually in our country Space Exploration is is supported by both major parties and theyre arguing about the last 10 percent of nasa budget not the basic night percent and in fact both president ial candidates have come out and endorsed continued tuman exploration continued Robotic Exploration studies of the earth are so important that we do from space and i think the level of disagreement is down at that it tails id like to see a higher budget but well have to see how that turns out and just your mind is also i guess why its important to actually go to these places rather than use radio telescopes arrays of telescopes here on earth or even space telescopes yeah well its simple the telescopes even the very largest ones really cant produce the kind of detail that we need in order to understand these worlds and its only by going there and bringing the cameras up close that we can understand yalit gee if we can sample their atmospheres and we can search for signs of underwater underground oceans and evidence for astrobiology for life that may have arisen elsewhere in the city such as saying yes i do is adelaide have it and it has paid dividends before this kind of going to the place rather than using telescopes. Absolutely and you know probably the biggest did it is the inspiration that it its its really human beings at our best only human beings explore only human beings create new knowledge and i think Space Exploration is probably the best example of that you know time for some animals are going to wonder about me basically the big geopolitical stories involving space are about space forces dont try wanting to stop militarization of space worries in nature a nation press about china going to the dark side of the moon for the 1st time of course china and the u. A. E. Going to maz what do you make of these militarization stories i presume theres nothing military about this mission theres absolutely nothing military about what nasa does and terms of Science Missions like new horizons but you know the militarization of stay started in the 1950 s. And sixtys and. Early as the early 2000 the chinese and other countries were conducting any satellite weapons tests and its unfortunate that space is now with rice but like every other domain for seats away and its just another place as human beings operate and its a place where we need to have our differences at least yeah russia had to deny that it was involved in some kind of satellite warfare in the past few days but can you understand why people are going to be suspicious of missions like this and certainly do you realize that some of your future funding could be siphoned off to more military escapades rather than your pure scientific research. Or not very worried about that it is to the contrary although the space is the notarized for decades the nasa budget has been stable if not growing over that time and i think that the public civilian Space Program and now the entree of commercial companies are are really showing that thats the way that humans need to become a multi planet species expand into the solar system for economic good for new knowledge for inspiration and frankly. In some respects because its what we do its its how human beings set ourselves apart from all the other species only earth we are explore will you mention those private private entities but as i said you work for jeff bezos a Space Company for a while youve done a lot of private work actually the public all are arguably is more more worried about these causing monopoly companies having dominance over markets here on planet earth and presumably the natural worry is that theyre going to start trying to monopolize space who knows mining for minerals in space why this emphasis and why your approval of private corporations are being called out here on earth and call rest for abusing their positions allegedly why do you want them to go into space. Well let me say to begin that i dont know of any instance of. The United States congress thats using private companies abusing their position in space that may be true on the earth and it may be true with for example the internet i dont know of any such instances space and what private space investment is doing is creating tremendous wave of innovation like we saw when computers went from rare and expensive to routine and inexpensive because of the developer the p. C. Were seeing developing a small innovative satellite systems low cost reusable launch all of this is helping us explore do more science and expand humans into the cosmos in ways we couldnt when it was a little a government monopoly space for. Yeah you know the pure science was done a publicly funded universities the pure innovation fannys are being done to show that it is public funding that has created Core Research you mentioned the technology of an i phone its not me is private companies or anything a private company siphoned off whole that public taxpayer money funded research and try to privately capitalize off. Here i have to disagree with you and ill give you a specific example private companies are now launching large numbers of satellites to study the earth the climate Climate Change and nasa the premier space agency on the planet is behind data sets from those companies because they cant get it any other way because theyre the private companies are producing valuable datasets to the Scientific Community that the government satellites are not producing and i think theyre voting with their feet and showing that this wave of innovation and this explosion of new applications for space is curing. Time have a lot of money just vinyl and then the kuyper belt itself i mean people will know the one day pluto is a planet the next it is and why is it being so much confusion and will this Mission Clear up what is going on at that far end of the solar system that seems to from year to year decade to decade change the textbooks have to change well in fact new horizons hasnt really written the textbook from scratch on this most distant part of the solar system the 1st exploration of the pluto system the 1st exploration of the quaker belt a vast array of discoveries including possibility that pluto even harder than ocean larger than the earths oceans. And you know were learning so much through ground based telescopes and Space Missions their view of what a planet is has changed at 1st we thought there were only the 9 and then we discovered so many more in our own solar system and then other Solar Systems around faraway stars the strong words got a little bit afraid of that thought that the numbers were too big we should legislate by coating what is and what isnt a planet but the real experts the people in my field in Planetary Science never really paid attention to that you can see that in the scientific literature at scientific meetings where planets like cluedo are referred to as planets by the experts every single day and i think the astronomers are a little bit still licking their wounds from that state. 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Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. Europe braces for a 2nd wave of coronavirus with the number of countries reporting spikes and millions being placed once again and the time to restrictions. The u. S. President ial race intensifying polling suggests joe biden and donald trump on neck and neck in c. Key states theres a new Online Campaign 68 opposition to trying to oust him from the white house. So long as the walls of the citys homicide rate could return to the pretty long level now restrictions are being lifted and come to some of his refuse to carry out a policy of stop and search our guests discuss the issue. 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