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Dot com were back again in an hour in the meantime stay tuned coming up next is larry king gun trafficking. Fewer than 100 days to election day insight from veteran political reporter Eleanor Clift as the 2020 your race enters its most critical period on this super politic. The politicking on larry king its Campaign Season like we have never seen before with fewer than 100 days to go what can we expect as the race enters its most critical period for insight im joined by my friend oh eclipsed columnist for the daily beast political commentator and best selling author she joins us from washington. With election day less than 100. 00 days away eleanor you expect any surprises. You know im sure there will be a surprise as were watching a president who is a really floundering searching around to try to find a path to reelection i cant find a single poll thats good for him hes being judged on an epic failure of leadership when it comes to the corona virus United States is one quarter well the one quarter of the deaths where 4. 5 percent of the worlds population and then he has failed to meet the moment in a drive for Racial Justice that is sweeping the country and instead hes trying to convert what were largely what are largely peaceful protests into chaos and mayhem on americas city streets by injecting that agents into these things and theyre creating more violence and that was originally ever there some National Polls show biden leaving him by double digits in all the key states trump says that these a phony theyre not real these polls. Well Kellyanne Conway who helped elect trump 2016 she invented the term the hidden trump voter and she says everybody laughed at her and 2016 but she made change theyre still out there i dont think there could possibly be enough of them to overtake the the movement away from this president in the suburbs and particularly among women so while its always wise to be skeptical about polls i think were seeing a pretty good glimpse of how the American Public feels and im actually working on a column for the daily base thats looking at the registration figures that number of people requesting absentee ballots in North Carolina has been a small uptick among registered republicans but among democrats its that is like a 40 fold increase from like 7246001 affiliated voters independents theres a similar increase and so bill what out of energy out there for mail and voting which is why the president is on a crusade to discredit mail and voting because he wants to be able to challenge the results if he doesnt like them do you compare his campaign to nixons law and all the campaign in 68. I initially did and frankly i was kind of nervous that he would be able to pull this off to you know scare the American People into voting for him that this violence in the streets which could only be controlled from washington but i have been persuaded otherwise that in 1968 Richard Nixon was the challenger he wasnt the incumbent dumb trump is the incumbent i mean he he owns these streets and when he sends agents in there that some of his own republicans are opposing he is trying to create chaos in suburbs that are very different than they were in 1968 they are much more diverse and they white people in the suburbs i dont think are going to be so easily frightened by the president into intervention do you think we can see a moose a nominee the democrats get the senate and the white house. Thats what im thinking can happen because if you look at 980 and i think this was similarity to 1868 and jimmy carter who was the 1st president i i covered was in terrible straits in 1980 and Ronald Reagan came in and he swept the country he won in a landslide and he brought in a Republican Senate were and he helped win 12 new senate seats it was the 1st time the republicans controlled the senate in 26 years and if this is a strong biden win well those republicans in swing states are going to get swept aside in even in 2008 when brock obama won a strong victory the young lee republican in a swing state that survived then was Susan Collins so is the top of the ticket goes off in a lot of these Senate States that are in in in purple states will go will follow the top of the ticket so it looks good for democrats but i dont think you why the single democrat is taking any of this for granted because donald trump is such a phenomenon weve never seen anything like this before and we have no idea what he might do next do you think well see a rhianna selection bay there are those in the scene you know will have a problem as across American People complaining they can vote well have elections and we dont know. Well i think there will be poll watchers lawyers security on from both sides of the political aisle at all of the polling stations but the truth is a lot of people are going to vote early this year and theyre going to vote by mail and i think the bigger challenge for election day is that we by the end of the evening we might not know who the winner is it could take a week it could take a month in some close races around the country and perhaps if the president ial races is tight there are a lot of those absentee ballots that are going to have to be counted one by one so i think its a different kind of civil unrest if you will i think a lot of anxiety about how were conducting this election. Trump has declined to say hell accept they result civvy loses according mammie has to see what happens do you think theyll have to carry him out of the oval office. If he loses decisively i have no question the secret service will square him and the oval office and hes not going to have the republican backing you know all those republican senators who showed no spine at all in standing up to many of the things he did he has done continues to do that really across small d democratic norms theyre not going to be with him if hes lost and if hes responsible for their own washes so he will be he will be a man but i dont think hes going to leave easily and im not so sure it will be quiet after he leaves hes always been interested in starting a Trump Network and so where trump isnt goes after trumps in the oval office could be on t. V. Which is where it is to. A degree finally he declined to attend the john lewis memorial at the Capitol Rotunda what what do you make of that. Well remember it took him i think half a day before he would lower the flags if they asked if to john mccain died hes not a man who lets lets grudges go easily and john lewis didnt attend his inauguration im sure in Donald Trumps mind this is fair game and frankly i dont know that he would be nested more in the rotunda now i havent i watched Mitch Mcconnell deliver that very nice remarks but you want to say ok pass the john lewis Voting Rights bill. Anough with thoughts and prayers lets get some action here. Eleanor always great talking to you is stay well ok you too president drunken sees the covert 19th is going to get worse before it gets better but can the United States stop the koran virus without a plan a National Plan lets get perspective from dr bob are not your going journalist former chief medical correspondent for n. B. C. And c. B. S. News he joins us from stole vermont all right bob do we need a National Plan. Larry we absolutely do need a National Plan its been completely incoherent at this point i think the Washington Post said the president headed incinerated his presidency harsh language but you know when you look at what had been done there was this overall race to open up and as you and i talked to months ago over tea up did not mean going to the bar it did not need sporting events or going to movie theaters and then very very careful opening up so we need a National Plan and we need a school plan people are terrified after they see what happened under the president s watch of the south with all the deaths the you have there will happen our schools because its there is no great path plan i have a 7 year old going to the 2nd grade and im very fearful of the way these plans would be put together because theyre not using science we have 11 Miami Marlins players and coaches with positive theyve canceled their games against the orioles the yankees games in philadelphia are canceled could you possibly have to starting could the baseball season and. Could it may already have ended you know as with any of these theyre very smart ways to have done this in other words you would have taken baseball teams perhaps taken a campus someplace they all could have quarantined for a couple weeks ahead of time played their games but you know you unless youre changing the rules of the virus you simply cant put all these active people together going out to bars their families and back and forth especially in places like florida that have you know such a high problem so disease is just not possible again the interesting thing about this larry is that the science is very simple you know you say 10 feet away from people you are very high quality mask you use i wear and you stay away from crowded indoor spaces with no ventilation and chances are very good youre not going to get infected but unfortunately you know you have politics getting in the way of the Science Advisors have been pushed to the side it just a race to open up anyway that its as you can you know people done a very smart look at the airlines you know look at Delta Southwest the look at jet blue you know they keep the middle seats open day theyre open you have smart other Airlines Just throwing caution to the wind so again i say you know if theres once more a comment larry it is stay away from the rush to open up at all costs listen to the scientists dont mock them dont make fun of them in the newspapers and were going to be far. President said it could get worse before it gets better you agree. I do and heres why you know i did a course in january in the virus talking about one hand it will hit near the virus one up like this the use of the coal mobile cabins or anybody whod been exposed to somebody with the virus not even in fact exposed them was was isolated and they went right down to 0 what we did larry is we came up like this we came down a little bit and now were going up like this so now we have this huge base and no one knows whats really going to happen i mean its a base to really be able to accelerate this epidemic completely out of control especially in the Southern States of california. We are more politicking with our friend dr bob are not right after you use words. You cant be both with yeah you want. To say is that when you have to have my printers in charge the act of printing all that paper money to hang around guys themselves really fills their heads with dreams of its fiats of primacy thats the ultimate form of supremacy is i print therefore i am and if you can pull the levers of political power with their fear money if you can acquire assets with their feet that money it gives you that god complex that we have so much of around the world and countries and big corporations and now its all going to come crashing down. By politicking continuing our conversation with dr bob are not it ward winning journalist former chief medical correspondent for n. B. C. And c. B. S. News i only have never asked this but frankly what is so peculiar about the coral no buyers. Well you know unfortunately larry theres nothing terribly peculiar about it its very straightforward you know about the virus that is spread largely through respiratory droplets should drop within 3 feet or so it should have been very easy to contain you know there were system set in china if we had had regular testing it early in february and march we would have been able to contain it but its a very insightful question larry because the one thing that may be unusual is this even though most scientists think its not airborne as a virus you have both the National Academy of sciences coming out and now the World Health Organization spurred by about 238 scientists asking is it airborne and to be clear what we mean by airborne is when it launches into the air we think its a strop said 3 feet ourselves but the open question is does it launch and stay in the air as a viable virus so that some distance in time away from somebody they could become infected so that would be the wild card you get great insight larry. President says that some day it may just disappear you buy that. I think its fairy wishful they get unfortunately but Wishful Thinking on every front you know this may be with us through 2022 google announced today that theyre going to keep their workers at home through next july thats a year from now. You know fantastic Infectious Disease expert despite the fact that hes been attacked by a stray shouldnt. You know indicates that this may be with us like the common cold for very long periods on precisely because we didnt stamp it out early we have an opportunity there may be a reservoir so if it picks up in the Southern Hemisphere comes the northern the southern so it could be with us for a while but heres the thing to watch out for larry is there going to be a big surprise theyre talking about perhaps a therapy in the next week or 2 announce we dont know if its any good or not we know that now they have 30000 people now taking this vaccine 87 Different Centers it is well designed i love the idea its technically its called an m. R. I. In a and thats the you know the messenger that comes from our genes that tells us to do something it tells us to make the spike protein thats what the body recognizes on the virus so we then can make antibodies to that and have a response so i think that just in the darkest days im hoping that there is going to be an effective vaccine and some vector therapies but look to November December before we really know for sure. Speaking that weve got 15000 people testing the vaccine getting and getting the vaccine and 15000 getting a placebo how long will it take what are you expectant of some good news there. So as you point out there are 3 different phases really to these trial the 1st the small you want to find out are people getting rashes are they getting medically sick is it bad for you could it hurt you then they go to a larger phase 2 and now face 3 which could actually prove it out so what theyre looking for is this when you have the virus you have these antibodies that rise and rise and rise and rise so your body tries to fight it what you want to do with a vaccine is to mimic that same high rise in antibodies and they have been able to show that now the unanswered question is this as you give it to older people in different different ethnic groups as an example will there be a surprise that someone has a bad reaction to it and will it in the end actually prevent you from getting the virus you dont know makes sense you have all those antibodies but we wont really know probably until november but still very promising that those antibody levels are quite as high as if you actually had the virus which is good news ringback. Or to make a vaccine deniers apparently there are a lot more a lot of people who wont take a vaccine. You know we had that right here i mean stover mont we had a bunch of bunch of and ivax was coming to town trying to discourage our kids what we did is a local group here we pointed out that in minnesota when they did this with a somali population i think they had 52 cases of measles that broke through when they didnt take the vaccine its going to be a big problem you know it might be as much as a 3rd of the United States and i think the most unfortunate thing is you know larry you know you really dont remember what you do remember weve been doing this for 30 years and 30 years ago if we had this conversation people would listen to the science they listen to the evidence and they probably take the advice now you have this huge universe of conspiracy theorists who think that this is you know china attack you know a suit which of course is not correct who think that its you know the left wing trying to be trump i mean all this just insane stuff and you cant break through you know as a scientist i have actually stopped most of my social media posts because all i do is get this terrible blowback from trying to just offer simple scientific advice so as your question directly yes its going to be a very big problem there are a large segment of the population the war vaccinate themselves and wont vaccinate their children so its you know going to be tough sledding ed but. You know we hope as weve seen with the virus now that the nonbelievers when they get sick with this virus and die from the virus suddenly say hey this is the great truth teller and then i think the most interesting point is this you know we have been through the most divisive time in American History and people sort of believe you know whatever their side of the political spectrum happens to say the virus is the great truth teller you can have a governor in the south saying im going to throw my science away and we go full bore and open up go back to the bars but the virus will prove them wrong with 5000 tests 400000 plus infected so its going to very interesting that in the end you know people may end up listening to the virus as it tells us you know the unfortunate truth of who lives and who dies. The be annual flu vaccine should probably be available the middle of august will it be any problem and taking the standard flu vaccine we get every year. Well its a very good question you dont know to a large numbers of people take it with their you know theres a reading problem with your hasnt been over the last few years a question is did they nail it you know they look around for viruses around the world to see which one do they have number david number and they have an h one n one so they try to get 2 or 3 different strains to figure out you know is this the right straight or not so one will they have the right strains we dont know 2 is that a good idea its a great idea because of the confusion thats going to be so as people get both flu and corona at the same time you kind of cant tell the party to really overwhelm the Hospital System so no advance warning that its either not going to work or to be problematic i mean aside from what is early as i can i mean in my family to get vaccinated as well into what if i want to volunteer to be to test one of the new vaccines what oh i do. You know you you would volunteer i would have to go through the mechanics of it you know the National Institutes of health you see has all the Clinical Trials there and all the information on how you sign up whether its a cancer or heart trial or whatnot moderna is one of the vaccines its in oxford the chad one vaccine is another of those but they would look at you and your risk factors the difficulty of course is you dont know as you point out of the beginning of the projects whether youre getting the salt water youre getting the actually a vaccine but its a great idea you know because they talked about these human volunteers taking the vaccine and then getting infected with the deliberately but because theyre younger it doesnt really tell how its going to operate in older individuals so for those of us who are older or have various illnesses i get chronic as an example its been very important for us to volunteer so they can see how this vaccine operates in older individuals various ethnic groups and with a variety of where they call comorbid conditions of this disease its chronic lung disease asthma high Blood Pressure and you know a long list of these chronic illnesses that put you know lots of people unfortunately terrible risk from accra and if you test positive are you still contagious when its over. Thats a great question actually or my kids actually just became infected with corona its a question weve asked you know its roughly 4. 7 days after youve been infected but you start to have symptoms and then the c. D. C. I think today was saying there might be 10 days or so later you may no longer be infectious you probably still have antibodies for a long time out and its been a source of great debate you know that people are continuing to sort of trail the virus on for days but it looks like that 10 days after become symptomatic but remember that at least 45 percent of people dont have any symptoms at all in fact whats interesting is in boston the Homeless Population they found that they did all the right screening you know they looked at them in terms of making certain they took their temperature and they asked all the right questions but they missed a large number of people that had the virus because there are so many a sin to match it and thats the main problem you know you have to great question a little while ago but you know whats so different about this particular virus the biggest single thing thats really different and dangerous about it. Asymptomatic carriers asymptomatic individual skids sit next to you it just breathing or saying whether he was coughing or sneezing you could be infected with the virus and thats why having the right masks is important and i say right mass because lots of people are running around a little bit of cloth and it doesnt do much really to contain you know the virus when youre breathing you know we need to make a National Priority of having the kinds of mass that Health Care Workers have but having enough of them obviously for Health Care Workers and the rest of us to be clear the end 95. 00 masks offers 96 percent protection from the virus a surgical mask roughly 67 percent and a single piece a piece of cloth we dont know thats probably just 20 or 30 percent so you know required of all this expensive stuff in our cars the airbags in the safety valves you know the government should make a priority of having the right masks for everybody. Any fear since you can get it to be air spreading through central air conditioning. So its very interesting to her can she works a couple different ways there was a famous study and it showed that in her restaurant the air conditioning was actually actually able to take in move the virus across the room to somebody who then became infected with the virus now you know would it go back into a central air conditioning system and spew back out again the experience in japan and is that is false they number one believed that the virus was airborne and they have relied on these hepa filter systems that you know research relating clean air and its what the airlines rely on you know the airlines big ace in the hole they hope we dont know this yet they hope is that because they have the right kinds of filters and they have research there that hopefully its going to make it lower risk but the kind of air conditioning and the us just blowing virus you know from the over to somebody else because of the airflow is one and whether in fact is the one of the biggest 1000000 dollar question larry is is this really airborne or not and we just dont know this point. Bob its always great having you with us thanks for your time today well thank you larry yes the worlds best questions is just such a pleasure and such an honor it really is i cant tell you thrilled i am to see you we thank him for joining us and we thank you for joining us on this edition of politicking remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook Page or tweet me of kings things and dont forget to use the politicking hash tag and thats all for this edition of politicking. Conservative media to the political left in the United States has become radicalized by what is your in an era of socialism profoundly changing the country on the other hand by many in his claim nothing would fundamentally change so we should visit or is it as always just because it. Seemed wrong. I mean you get to shape out these days to come out ahead and engage with equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. No shots. Actually. Know. Which your thirst for action. Greetings and sell you take. Boy it was a celebration of political grandstanding partisan hackery and outright lying to the public it was on full display in full swing this week from both democrats and republicans as everybodys favorite befuddled looking president ial bootlicking yes man u. S. Attorney general william barr took the stand in front of the u. S. House Judiciary Committee to answer for a wide range of questionable and possibly political motivated decisions coming out of his Office Decisions like using chemical weapons to clear out protesters in Lafayette Square for Trumps Campaign buyable photo op here in d. C. Or sending them to u. S. Cities to provoke protesters and inflame hostilities to bolster the president s Campaign Theme of law and order you know those kind of all american Decision Making is to come out of an attorney general but while a. G. Barr on the politicians questioning him are definitely wearing their political beliefs an agenda on their sleeves it appears that many u. S. Citizens are actually rolling up their sleeves and never to hide their political opinions according to the Cato Institute a new National Survey about 2000 u. S. Citizens has found that selfcensorship is on the rise