A pandemic be tackled within the next Coronavirus Relief package being discussed today in congress or will it be swept under the rug joining me now from vermont his iconic puerto rican character actor luis guzman thank you for coming on amazing that have a legendary screen presence were going underground today during the month so you must have been keeping up to date with the failure of Bernie Sanders to win his primaries across the democratic nominations for the november elections where i do believe that our. Democratic national party. You know was a shame because it was pretty much the start rather they ganged up on but in fairness to by. Bunnytown is accepted the result and said you know book joe biden is going to be the candidate im joe bidens doing so well in the opinion polls. Well. You know i think i think you know when you have no choice you have no choice but to fall in line just like everybody else well angela davis former black panther said she was backing biden on this program created a bit of control of a sea. Back to coronavirus what is the scale of the disproportionate covies impact on people of color joining this crisis where so many people are dying in your country we have a people need to educate ourselves you know especially when it comes to black and brown you know black and latino stuff like that because. Food and the byproduct of food like like. Eating fried food and stuff like that we need to educate ourselves about how to eat better because our body our our our vessels and we dont take care that vessel and a virus like around the will take advantage of people who are not healthy you know and then you need system is compromised then its no win situation i watched i watched a documentary 10 months ago called the game changer and i kind of blew me away and i stopped eating meat back in fridge you know and ive lost 25 pounds i feel healthier if you could buy a mac and cheese. To make mac and cheese which is not healthy for you you can buy brown rice so you could buy Sweet Potatoes when the coronavirus 1st hit and i went to the supermarket it was very telling to me all the spaghetti that was gone on the mac achieve that would go on when you went to the full through a vegetable section that was that was from top to bottom and is that cost dimension to education what have you made in the black lives matter protests after the murder of george floyd. Listen i understand they understand where it comes from. You know. It was it was a Tipping Point and people went out then they protested and i think they continue to continue to do that but i also think with that we need to take a deeper look within our own communities in the United States the United States and the hub for sex trafficking Human Trafficking you know when when when the with the outcry over that stuff and i will say this not all cops are back cops you know i have friends i have family members who work in Law Enforcement or decent people or listen any kind of perfection you have bad people you have back back there you have bad accidents. You have you know back politicians and stuff like that and and thats not to say that everybody the bad person in my view. In my opinion it really starts at the fact they said well youve got to you have a police chief you have Police Commissioner its up to those people to tell their people said this man were here to serve a community you know and this is how we need to go about it and they dont do that and you have george floyd situation you have agree on a terrible situation you know if its like i think its going to cause chaos and they ask or scare us well you know weve covered weve covered communities of color being affected by f. B. I. Programs cointelpro as to why disproportionately violence occurs in these communities where drugs were imported into those areas do you think that hollywood depictions have have skewed our understanding of people of color in the United States. The picture since i would say that some have some have not i mean look you know at film is a medium through be able to teach people about history. You know. I also i also believe. That. How the hell can we go to mars and talk about mining the moon when we cant even eradicate you know you in the United States it doesnt make sense to me doesnt like it like the priorities are wrong apparently the definitely wrong you know and method on methadone is just a way of really keeping people down you know methadone messes up peoples body and there is no war on drugs there is not because if there was a war on drugs we would not be having the opiate crisis that we still have today in america winning the war was winning the war on drugs you know Pharmaceuticals People are over those in every day we are that anyone watching related drug issues who can sell their medical practitioners and the social workers or whoever theyre working. Through that problems with them do you think because you were a social worker you understand and brings in your acting parts which are often in the underworld some extra gravitas youre not just to get whacked and. This and when i when i was working at so short a which for me was one of the best jobs i ever had because i was helping people to help themselves i was helping people to not become 3rd 4th generation welfare row clients to the system you know but go out and get a career and learn a skill and take charge of your life i mean that that was my approach i was. And out of the front my worker an essential worker back in the eightys you know. As a social worker and i just saw how the system worked missing men i was getting kids young people between 17 and 21 years old that graduated from high school and i had to minister from reading science because i had to see what. What math and reading that was i was getting kids for this great mass of reading levels and this is what the system was graduating and it was like that was so wrong you know specific specifically on history you commented that i dont know what you think so many years on after doing that in the eightys so many decades you room of the 95 percent Puerto Rican School and there was about a paragraph about puerto rico in a 400 page history book that still have. I but ive definitely believe its still happening you know this immense they dont they dont talk about the trail of tears you know that the native americans in this country went through you know they dont talk about you know the genocide that happened during the Mexican American war where exodus 18000 mexicans one you know they dont talk about very a little and stuff like that as a teenager it was up to me to find out what the in puerto rico was about it was about me finding out that they were native american i mean native i know in the in the caribbean and thats part of my heritage but i have to find my own lets just turn to something slightly like the the statues are being taken down in the United States thats being taken down here that was one taken down which was a defiant. Criticism of having statues of slave. Here in britain. You probably saw in the Series Community where are the statue of you in a Community College so i think you think statues of you should replace all the sat is a racist in the United States absolutely absolutely because listen i believe in diversity i believe that number one people should get educated. So you know people in america should read this this is the Us Constitution constitution states certain things on our behalf you know im not saying everybody should become god i think everybody should be at least knowledgeable and inspires all those that choose that being taken down i never understood why we celebrate columbus day in the United States when the numbers never spend. Enough america he recently went. To central Central America in the caribbean and he messed that up with stephanus and and a whole bunch and got a reason. And killed the Beautiful People you know. Like i said you know like people need to understand history and know history you know and why do we celebrate that why do we found a great someone to look a man and this joint a whole culture people be put on the stand that in this country. The Republican Party the Republican Party was started by black people back in the day back in the day. People. That when there was there was the whole Civil Rights Movement and stuff like that that. They had some kind of vote for some kind of civil rights law a bunch of democrats voted against that you know we need to understand something. The nature of politics does have to change has to change to reflect the diversity that is in america. Because its not black or white but its made to be black the way i dont expect government to take can stuff. Government is more event should be and it and administrator you know and its not about president ial politics its about local politics and its about making sure that the people put in place of the people that reflect the communities that they come from and that they represent and that they have not bought. Lobbyist and my pharmaceuticals and stuff like down. Thats the problem here money rules. I watched the video the other day and it was it was a Community School Board Meeting in buffalo new york and what they were talking about was they were talking about the police and the Police Officers that work in those communities and there was same here we are our tax money to pay a Law Enforcement department of officers and none of them live in our community. They come and work in our Community Tax dollars they spend their money in their own communities that have way better schools way better teachers way better facilities for these kids here in our community we dont we dont we dont have the access to better facilities this is a real inequity that goes on and its a real its not a balance. Thank you thank you brother and we have to be safe and. So we can argue again. After the break is there any point in taking part in the United States democracy or is trouble already stolen 2020 we ask you old times best selling author greg im asked if the best democracy money can buy is already sold out all of them all coming up in part 2 of going underground. Elderly forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. 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History but if you think this will change anything of the ballot box voter disenfranchisement joy in a New York Times bestselling or the greg says you should think again because the next president has already been chosen without a single vote being cost he joins me now via skype from l. A. To talk about his new book out trump stole 2020 greg thanks so much for coming back on i want to get on to the main issues but you know you talk about the book being about Corporate Power ultimately and our al gore said we hate that son of a you when you expose the fact that he actually should have been president not george w. Bush but theres a theres an oblique reference in this book to why you knew a direct mail expert who helped you understand why trump will win in 2020 and you Say Something about you used him to show a corrupt the u. K. Government was. Because you were able to meet the alleged iraq war criminal themself tony blair just tell me about that well back in 1998 the direct mail expert marks wieland consultant help me set up a front for the Guardian Newspapers and we went undercover and basically offered to buy the the the blair government we were supposedly working for a company that very few people ever heard of called enron we had a massive were right that was set up and they helped me set up this whole scheme we had offices in the tower hotel etc and we were able to get on you know on microphone hidden mikes and camera tony blairs cabinet means basically willing to sell policy legislate. When you name it for 5 grand a month so every you know its not just id like to say im sorry to tell you in britain that i know you think you have a lot of fun talking about the corruption of u. S. Government but its there too ok but at least british voters dont move around as much as a americans so you use some of this direct mail data because direct mail is the best way to analyze peoples addresses and where people live and you came out with a figure what the 17000000 americans moved in the run up to the 2016 election in the usa people still moving you doubt that. Yeah as as once as a Democratic Supreme Court justice said if all these people are moving our highways should be completely shut down moving trucks where the moving trucks everyones moving now why is this important because a new gimmick used by the republic in. Voting official and understand in america we have Something Different very different the rest are most the rest are all we have a part party policy in partisan politicians who actually are in charge of whether you get to vote so they require removing they removed and i kid you not as has happened in china and russia well in china and russia but its not supposed to happen in in a self described democracy weve removed 16700000 voters that by the way that is from the United States governments own figures which keep track of not only are voters but the people we blocked from voting because we blocked millions of voters this is something not known in the rest of the world so we said so these republican official said 17000000 people have hit the road in the last 2 years americans move a lot but not that much millions and millions of people the rickshaws with suitcases why is this important well obviously if you moved in if you moved from mill say the city of milwaukee. You cant go to milwaukee you left there it really will too to go there so i talked to some of these voters who supposedly moved to quanah taylor an africanamerican woman and thats important they said she moved out of milwaukee so shes not want to vote milwaukee i flew to milwaukee i met with the quantity or said if you moved out of milwaukee she says im the county supervisor of milwaukee what do you mean i moved from milwaukee but she is guilty of voting while black in america thats almost become a crime i kid you not we had on the purge lists one in 7 africanamericans are on the hit lists to have their votes removed in georgia alone which is an important state in this election because it has 2 senators we could have the control us senate we have the white house hinge ing on georgia which is by the way a minority a white minority state white people in minority in georgia so how do the republicans win if there are my if the white people are a minority the answer is you remove the nonwhite people may remove the 3rd of a 1000000 people for supposedly moving including christine jordan i was at the atlanta polling station youll see in the book how trent dole 2020 get a picture i thought you had a voting station when they threw her out said you cant vote here you no longer registered shes been voting at that same place for 50 years 50 years since her cousin Martin Luther king jr was assassinated this is her cut this is kings cousin who was thrown off the voter rolls of georgia with a 3rd of an a 1000000 other people mostly. Guess what black people and young people who are also democratic voters a 3rd of a 1000000 in a single american state weve got millions across the nation 150000 in the swing state of wisconsin now understand we have this strange Electoral College system in america its not its not who gets the most votes well theres some similarity in terms of a parliamentary system its its how many people get the win certain states the number one state that will determine our presidency is Wisconsin Trump supposedly won that state by 22000 votes and as youll see in my book theyre removing 150000 voters for moving and our experts as you mentioned the direct mail experts the people at amazon ebay american spreads helped us out they went through the list isnt a these people havent moved you know it was all a Party Official say they act probably the governors say they act properly wisconsin you talk about jim crow crow rule of virus and horrific implications obviously for when a black lives matter and you use the phrase voting while black but because joe biden is running i in the polls right now and i got to ask you how is trump already one in 2020 and why is trump against postal ballots if postal ballot reading arguably is whats going to put him in the white house in november a couple things. One Hillary Clinton was ahead of trump in the polls which Means Nothing at this time in 2016 so youve got the same margin so hillary was crushing agent orange our commander in chief whos president because they didnt count on the democrats the most by the white democrats just dont think about the steel and they dont do anything about steel they do very little its you know its only civil rights Voting Rights groups black African American or his asian that actually fight for their vote but its not the Democratic Party so hillary was ahead just like by the head again whos president now you get the mail in voting this is very important to have in how trump stole 2020 and again its past tense your stolen but americans can take action and steal it but how he stole it understand it 1000000 votes about are you ready for this according to mit one of our major our top technical university. 22 percent of all ballots that are mailed in mail in ballots never get counted one in 5 ballots now if in britain through a one in 5 ballots there be riots i assume and hope you never know or there were riots over breakfast arguably i mean back you know but but one in 5 ballots are lost and its usually voters of color lose those back. And i also you talk i mean you talk disapprovingly of the Supreme Court if it ends up that as it has done before you call them a degenerate out of control republican body playhouse you dont think you can rely on the Supreme Court to sort these things out our Supreme Court is a highly highly Political Organization these are not like you have law lords in england you know like you know people with credentials who choose their next generation of leaders here we have an entirely crazy political process so we have these old true political justices on our Supreme Court and this is been an unbelievable problem so for example this issue of have people old for example 2 weeks ago the Supreme Court said that the state of alabama which is a very important state that could determine the control the u. S. Senate the state of alabama can require people mailing in their ballots to have a legal notarization of the ballot you can imagine how difficult and expensive that is especially during a lockdown its charging people a lot of money to mail in their ballots so they dont have to stand in line and die from a virus weve got explosion a virus in alabama you need a notary public and the Supreme Court and so a federal judge here said oh my god thats terrible people are going to die if they have to do that so he said no you dont need that no or is a should other states dont require it but it went to the Supreme Court and you had these ultra right judges and again theyre politicians dont think of them as judges because theyre wearing black robes these are politicians and of the republicans have 5 out of 9 votes and so 5 republicans voted to say that alabama could require you to go through this whole process to cast your ballot its up well i mean theres irony as i said trump against postal ballots but theres so many different facets of the book you talk about how direct marketing actually being used to actively encourage democrats not to vote its as if it were. And i do that just finally i mean you talk about also about how it is liberals that in they are enablers of this crushing of democracy you talk about the pew trust you see the liberals are saying its not these techniques its facebook its wiki leaks its twitter over here theyre talking about that and what do you how do you react to that that its actually facebook ads and and Julian Assange currently being tortured here in london according to the u. N. And not the issues that you show to that how donald trump is going to win in 2020. Walk america in how trump still 2020 i have a chapter called the russians russian to judgment and you know americans like to think we didnt do it to ourselves we didnt use tactics of stopping black people and Asian Americans in the spandex and voting no we didnt do races tricks to get drunk elected it had to beat them russians it wasnt the russians or some kid in moscow messing with the machines we did it to ourselves through really ugly racist tactics but theyre very sophisticated its not the old system of guys in white robes scaring you know black people out of voting by you know by literally lynching them which is what we used to do in the u. S. We used to literally hang black people try to vote not getting and thats our history and now its changed from jim crow to what i call dr james crow database analyst who use very sophisticated means like saying that 92 year old this is jordan had moved ursa quanah taylor removed or someone was a felon when they werent we use these tricks to remove black voters in and the russians didnt do that the russians didnt tell Hillary Clinton dont campaign in wisconsin because youre going to lose the presidency because theyre stealing the vote there so you know i would love to say some other country did this to us it didnt happen that way and unless americans wake up to the fact that we have poisoned our own elections with racially biased were never going to save our democracy and thats what im concerned thats why or how term stole 2020 because there are things americans can do to change the system to protect their vote and believe me there are a lot of people who are waking up to this finally just as theyre waking up to other forms of racism in america which we like to keep hidden but unless we confront it were going to keep having elected president s greg. Jeffrey have you on before november thank you so much for going back on going on the ground that for the show we. Back on wednesday on the 15th anniversary of the death of joy. At the hands of scotland yards Police Officers they are Police Officers who current u. K. Labor leader has refused to prosecute when he was director of Public Prosecutions and tell them what you have to join the underground by following us on Twitter Facebook you tube mr graham and so. The world is driven by a dream shaped by. Thinks. We dare to ask. One of the greatest if not the greatest church in the history appreciate it he will soon be converted into what is the importance of the hottest and. Europes Energy Security is not independence its in the bounds. Of. The American City of poland turns into a war zone a storm from suns in federal agents to question the rest we look at how these tactics echo those used by previous president s overseas to improve their reelection chances. Thanks for historical damages to cities in america found in the shape preparations for minority communities a move that speaks question. Was going to pay forward are you go pay for a reason at a young tax money how about me out of all the tax money be trillions of dollars to come up with a payment for people who need food and they couldnt come up with the same amount of money to restore African Americans in this country