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Didnt have anywhere else to go and that was no one else really speaking up to them because we had a lack of real good working close leadership a working class we were in retreat at that time. And so. That was the beginning of this process to get say no to 2008 financial crisis massively expeller right to that situation because weve got some literally the day before that banking crash we were being told that the reason our comic services were being dismantled was there wasnt enough resources and people go into that people believe that people believe the problem was theres too many immigrants and the resources wont stretch and then the next day billions to bail out the banks now that was a shock that was a big shock to people and i as i was already a communist or socialist talking to one person you can restore that crashed and after that crash and i can tell you the difference in how people. See i had you know overnight was staggering its really in georgia written just in jersey obviously is way left that we are a bit but i like diversity on my program of conversation but i would what i would glean from her is that you know i would agree with her in the postwar era up into the 1970 s. Maybe even early eightys we take that us there was 8 except and says there would be a level of prosperity of course theyd be dips but overall there would be prosperity and i think that i dont agree i agree with john here in 2000 a day came really crashing to the end because there is no. Promise of prosperity is meant to be a whole postwar paradigm was 2 things security and prosperity and they cant deliver on that anymore and they hope the people governments hold people in contempt for not a going along with their politics of us terry go ahead. Yes i think so and i grieve the schwarzenegger seminal moment it brought to power somebody who in the United States barack obama who was for the 1st time in how the member of the centrist Democratic Party he was somebody who seemed to be on the left of so this was a radical change but of course the radical change that his election promise and you had the 1st signs of the kind of popular insurrection against. What happened in 2008 with the occupy movement and that was very quick combination of obama. Taking it over and then you had the other police of breaking it up and that was. What then happened was that that resentment that movements a kind of a right wing populist and who came dramatic change the dramatic change being. End of the wasting money on foreign wars and of importing cheap labor and you know capitalism making capitalism fan for ordinary people that is what he promised in 2016 that was enough to terrify the political to war that the political establishment launched against donald trump is kind of where we are now which is the this crisis of legitimacy dont be one of the things i think is really interesting is that me the astutely the new liberal order will not give any kind of credence or legitimacy to populists on the left or the right and i think thats really the with where a lot of the the anger comes from here because you know you had like a Bernie Sanders character very popular among very wide variety of demographics but it was taken from him again because they and they dont want and if you if you look at the Republican Party the g. O. P. Has not changed at all you know just because trumps there ok. I mean they do everything in their power just for him ok its still these populist. Fringes of his way were told in the media theyre the ones that are being denied any kind of legitimacy and actually public toral access go ahead joe. Well we have to look back to 2008 what happened who paid the bailing out the banks we were told the banks are too big to fail they must not be allowed to bear the brunt of the crisis of their own system we must pay and how do we pay the working class all over the world has paid by losing a condition security you know Public Service is dismantling of privatization of everything that used to be provided for us out of there with taxes out of the wealth that we create but it was a kind of guaranteed minimum that social services where there and theyve been taken away privatized scraps whatever and in different situations when they happen to be this huge attack on peoples Living Standards and you know recently we were told just before this crash were being told here how brilliant Employment Situation was now we havent seen such good employment levels since the 17th well it was patiently a lot hateley like when they talk about this recovery he was recovering from big bubbles in the stock market and a bubble lets not forget is a sign that somethings wrong in the productive economy and means in fact there isnt someone productive to invest your capital. Gambling on the Stock Exchange on the Property Market on the currency markets all these bubbles are not a sign that something is good with apple isnt there a sign that something is inherently wrong. And meanwhile our billionaires are taking thought years off each other on the stock market whats happening to all repeat. 0 hours contracts flex Flexible Working which means you dont know what youre working but you baby who is ready to just in case your employer wants you know pay no pension no job security nothing minimum wage all big recently there was an outbreak of coding in leicester in britain and were. We finding the conditions that lead to that lester is a town takes so many factories. And there was an obstacle in the Financial Times about cities so looking about the wages that are being paid which will cost minimum wage and Everybody Knows it Everybody Knows thats whats happening theres no health and safety theres no. Welcome conditions and being thanks well 4 pounds now but Everybody Knows the health and safety net tax people the National Government the local government they all know and they use when can it and let it carry on lake george what if the thing that it what were seeing right now is a particularly during this crisis because its a huge crisis of you dont have a job ok particularly. If you had taken a hit in 2008 but we just see more and more transfer wealth going upward with it in a time when we need it going in the reverse direction ok just to save the middle classes and the working class because the government policy is all cross the western world much more so than the United States is it the middle class isnt really necessary anymore theyre paid theyre trying to replace them ok with other demographics go ahead george yes yes no thats exactly the case its there is a transfer of wealth. Moving upwards and thats exactly what was said by Warren Buffett when he said yes theres a class war thats going on and my class is winning i dont talk this as a job but ive got a witty man Warren Buffett is but if i bust it reveals something fundamental about the capitalist economy. What is interesting is that. In this election that isnt coming up in that its going to get president ial actually nice as this issue isnt and in fact instead of focusing on who is the enemy who should be you know they are the focus of our. The Election Party of the left is focusing its and go on the middle guts you know when when Hillary Clinton talked about the basket of deplorable she meant the middle class hopefully get the unite here the one percent but that is the middle class theyre the enemy and you can be sure that any. Democratic administration will wage a war against the people that they consider wall street as the enemy they dont consider the financial speculators the enemy. Because of the sweat shop owners the enemies its the ordinary what the enemy were doing is particularly in the United States and theyre focusing everything on trump because there is a lane in politics right now and it is it is to you to go in rescue main street in the middle class nobody wants to do that because it is just you just told us you know they told us there was no money theres plenty of money apparently ok so trump will not make that bold move and go and save the middle class working people and of course a biting you to get there a talking point from you can see i mean this is such its so gaping with what was happening right now and no one is bold enough to step up just to go ahead george had touched on something really important the majority of the media are busy trying to distract our attention from the real problem which is of course dealing inequalities created by capitalism which is built into it but there is a crisis of legitimacy increasingly people feel this instant doesnt work here we have to go to a hard break and out of the new recession a lot of legitimacy stay. 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The world is driven by a dream shaped by. The day or thinks. We dare to ask. Welcome back to crossfire where are all things are considered to remind you were discussing the crisis of legitimacy. Lets go back to brazil jones are you going to go into the break you want to finish your point to write it thanks. There you see a growing sense of disconnect between the people and their government between the people in the institutions of the state which increasingly are seen not to be on their side not to be neutral not to be arbiters of justice but to be very much aligned with the interests of the rich and ruling class. Judiciary police you know the Education System all of that over these last 10 years has been really exposed and then of course weve had covert crises which has extension waited exacerbated all of those inequalities in the system and laid them bare you know like never before and to me extent that we are now seeing a growing number of serious misses in the media not the ones in the media that george is talking about her busy trying to divert our attention but the the ones in the Financial Times or politico who are writing you know think pieces saying if we are not careful theres going to be a revolution they dont say and that you know as well as back in 2014 plutocrat an oligarch who nicanor billionaire wrote an article i dont know if you guys could pitch. And he expressed it talked about the massive and growing inequality in the world and in the western imperialist countries particularly the us but the u. K. Is not. A way that growing inequality seeing how people felt about the system and about the rich and about their future and he said if we dont do something to halt this. This disparity in this growing disparity then we are going to be in trouble we like to tell ourselves but we will be and marching will go to a sink because in the Financial Times just 2 weeks ago sensually saying the same thing now these people. Really want to save the system they want capitalism to be made. What people in our state and placed what theyre unable to recognize is well marx and engels pointed out 150 years ago which is this growth in disparity of income and situation is hard to make it into capitalism it isnt a way out and that is how the system works right now with the crisis and so glaring that everybody can see it and it educates. As if what they do is george is one of the big youve already mentioned deplorable zoomie i cant you know when you and i were both coming up in the world there was a pretense of some kind of objective body from the media that is legally gone right now and we can use the example be election of donald trump and we can use brakes that i mean you know you know we know that you know the people voted the wrong way and they had it in there theres no forgiveness for that whatsoever and that goes into this. Canceling of culture censorship i mean it what it was really quite glaring is they dont talk about social and income inequality talk about all these other cultural issues the cultural wars because if you as john pointed out if you start really seriously looking at whats going on right now the situation is it is in the long term its untenable go ahead george prevails in an election the losing side will simply not accept it and this is in fact what happened in 2016 in which theyre losing side was at will determined to sabotage an election result the except and we can be sure that whoever will be the losing side this november will react in the same way and of course that is it works very much too early in the its advantage. No one wants to raise the issues of how. All of the benefits of. Economy flow to the one percent much less the one percent no one else gets anything out of it instead we have a warring factions hating one another who are themselves hardly beneficiaries of the system but george a kind of that good that touches on to the Council Culture thing here just one of the things thats very interesting to me is that you know we. Presented this illusion of choice right here there is no choice here ok and the culture wars is a nice diversion and they do give the impression that there is a choice here because at the end of the day theyre going to protect the neoliberal order thats what it is made the one percent and the good in the political elite of the media elite so wealthy and so content because if you talk about. Income and social inequality then youre going to have to approach it differently but you know lets talk about statues lets talk about cancel kocher and all of that is a diversion not everything is racist apparently now you know if you started dealing with social inequality i think the whole issue of racism will dissipate very very quickly go ahead. Well you know this latest economic crash which is being you know the narrative is that its all the fault of the pandemic but of course the reality is this crash is in fact it was financial commentators for the last 34 years it was coming its its built into the system is systemic crisis that was long overdue kind of its probably over the edge but in fact it was already starting to tick just before you know looked and started to happen so we have this huge crisis which is deepening inequality and i really revealing the night shell of a lot of the socalled employment that we had incredibly insecure and on top of that weve had the cloven crisis which is again exacerbated importance here and showed us how its the must essential people who we need to keep society running who are the least paid the least respected more like its jobs more likely to be done by the poorest and most oppressed workers all these inequalities are being deepened and of course what were seeing as well is that women ethnic minorities are disproportionately bearing the brunt of the Health Crisis and the economic crisis and that so this whole deepening of all the inequalities in our society is something that they are really worried about us looking at properly and hence this move to turn the narrative away from capitalism creates inequality towards what people hate black people men hate women you know we must fight against the symbols of sexism we must fight against the symbols of racism to divert us from understanding the root causes you know when it comes to im not opposed to reeducate people who have begun to change but youve got to put the cart before the horse whats creating your attitude we have. Media pumping. T. Immigration and anti you know anti black people richly x. House incessantly stealing our hands we dont kinds of stupid have to choose which then well then blame oh how you know if you want to get rid of racism 1st youve got to get rid of the cause of racism which is this system inequality. When people are left with some how do you know that without it it would be quite easy for them to beat me educated but i dont. Want to consider that im not happy with that term ok i get that little bit. Nearing for me however i mean george is. Tearing a page from what we just heard here i mean its tells me that the elites have no answer its ok because. The status quo serves their interests and theyre not willing to take or with it its really quite amazing as we were you know we had the case of f. D. R. Which you know his political posts say he was going to bring socialism to america bring communism to america but in fact f. D. R. Saved capitalism save the system ok and and again historians because a lot of people are politically motivated they dont see it that way i mean what i find really quite glaring here is that theyre not theyre staring into the abyss these elites because its its an untenable situation to continue and i agree kobe just cant get over it just it actually moved the curtain a way for us to have a real clear view of whats going on go ahead george know thats exactly it is an untenable situation and they. On the part of the elites will be to wage a war against. The masses of the people who are not benefiting at all from the system and this is what the Council Culture is about its it is about an. A kind of an expression of rage against. Ordinary people against their beliefs against their institutions and so we have this bizarre situation where the elites the wealthy the one percent are declaring that who is unacceptable who are the real villains say ordinary people with their suppose of racism sexism homophobia islamophobia the Hillary Clintons the laura bulls they are the enemy not us not we who you know who you know vast sums of money for doing nothing will be you know who are simply sucking money out of the economy no the enemy is you know the ordinary people and we will see an expression of this rage on the part of the elites. After the november election should the democrats win and and and they will be no you know move towards equality because they put the some kind of a socialist economic agenda that will come about no thats not going to be the case it will be the agenda again of sucking jobs out financial ization of the economy and those who feel upset about is those who feel that they were lost out of the system will be punished by told be told what did terrible people they are and that this is indeed their just punishment you know youve talked about this many times the country will explode irrespective of the outcome here the doors are running out of town real quickly i think were taught to hate each other because i think that the vast majority of people have actually a lot of commonality its ok and i think its the elites in the media theyre the ones that teach us teach us to hate each other because we all most of us the vast majority of us have the same needs and desires im absolutely convinced of that but when you want to pull in cancel culture and you want to bring in statues you want to bring up 1619. 00 in all of this year that is just to intentionally mix things. So they dont talk about what were talking about in this program you know get rid of cancel cold turkey why dont we start canceling social inequality must when you say yes and the demolition of the statues serve 2 purposes on the one hand. That the militia is a distraction you know instead of addressing serious Economic Issues those addressing serious needs that are not being met you get symbolic outcomes destruction of statues but they also serve another which is to do moralize the public to show the public that this is what we think of you this is what we think of your history this is what we think of your culture were tearing it down because we think you are rubbish and you have to accept that you are rubbish and this and you will be told forever that you are rubbish and that thats why they. Staring up statues down is you know how such a powerful presence and they meet still go to the bank laughing all the way thats all the plan we have i want to thank my guests in brazil and in budapest and i want to thank our viewers for watching us here our you see you next time remember. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to heal some air force base in alaska where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area russia. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. You take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. You. My youngins in my. Name because it was a bit. More about. What went on in the side of my. Scene that i dont defend but im before. Him but. I. Blocked lives model raju spiral of control in new york. After new video shows a Police Officer pinning a suspect by the neck. Florida records another record daily increase in covert infections also the countrys biggest surge since the start of the outbreak a russian intensive care doctor based in new york city as the crisis is unlike anything Health Workers have seen before. 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