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Greetings and sal you take shims want to know all right with country after country nation after nation citizen after citizen on lockdown do its due to stay at home orders all around the world for many their only real connection to whats going on in the world outside their own neighborhoods and communities comes from the Television News and online and print journalism they consume but given the partisan and carnival nature of the ratings and click hungry United States news media going into this pandemic many were as you can imagine right bully concerned about what kind of news theyd be getting however. Now just a few months into this pandemic according to pew research here in the United States numbers of majority feel that the us news media has handled coverage of this pandemic rather well in fact 69 percent to be exact in fact the percentage of those who say the media was exaggerating the threat of the virus has dropped from 62 percent in march to 48 percent in april that includes a decline in the portion saying the media have greatly exaggerated the risk as well from 37 percent to 24 percent. But these numbers do not mean the u. S. News media has been beyond reproach in their tactics nor have they seen the upswing in profits either as the Washington Post reports people are consuming news like never before but spikes in readership are coming alongside huge drops in the advertising revenue a New York Times count estimated 36000 media workers have experienced furloughs pay cuts or even layoffs from vice to buzz feed to corks the conde nast there have been massive layoffs in the business of news both in print and on line since the start of this pandemic and that has only been in the 1st few months my friends and of course just because we are in a state of emergency that hasnt stopped the by a part of the partisanship battles between liberal and conservative news outlets from blaming trump and blaming cuomo blaming obama blaming dr pao she blaming china and blaming just about everybody else on and on and on and on how many talking heads and news that authorial is have we now seen and read that laid the blame on the leadership of one side while excusing away the failures their own side played in the deaths of now over 90000 u. S. Citizens so today lets examine the good the bad and even the censorship that weve seen from the u. S. News media during the covert 1000 pandemic as we start watching the homes. Whats going on in a city. Under so you. See this as this you always still see a. Great city desolate systemic dissent says so which. Brings up the old. Welcome when watching the hawks i am tyrone and im mr kroft and joining us today to discuss the state of the news media in the age of covert 19 are 2 books or no stranger to news media criticism both in the giving and receiving the host of r. T. Americas eat the press Steve Malzberg an investigative journalist cohost of arties boom bust mr reality check himself. Thank you both for coming on today guys. Thanks for having me so i want to start lets start with just looking at the coverage across the board of the far steve what do you feel has been the best and worst aspects of the u. S. News medias handling of this outbreak steve you can go 1st. Wow the best and worst aspect i think you know you hit it on the head when you talked about that the partisanship the blame game the fake news by omission which which ill throw in has been its been unavoidable and its been consistent so i think while the coverage i think it depends who youre watching and i think that that poll would you probably get to in a little bit will show that theres a party line disagreement on how much they trust the media and how good a job they think theyre doing i mean you got. A sin maybe murder that was committed in new york state by Governor Cuomo has orders to take sick patients have put them in Nursing Homes and the Mainstream Media really couldnt care about that now the more conservative media is harping on that where is the Mainstream Media is going after trump for every you know everything he does and everything he says so you hit it right on the head in your introduction so i dont think you could say notwithstanding what the people think in my opinion i dont think theyve done a good job covering just the facts i think everything it everything is slanted. Bring your thoughts yeah i think i think its true that everything is slanted looks from the left or the right doesnt matter that covering stories from a partisan viewpoint is not journalism theres plenty of space out there for there to be actual journalists who are just focusing on the facts of whats happening where this thing came from what you know whats happening under the law whether or not civil rights are being violated whether or not you know these these governors orders are even constitutional there are so many questions out there and the problem is that number one media is not really asking those questions theyre played this constant game yes they want to jump on everything try. Doesnt trump gives them lots of things to jump on every day they want to criticize anything they dont like at the same time theyre not being sincere i dont think in terms of just looking at whats happening in terms of the virus itself its bread there are there are massive things guys that are that are taking place right now the talk of Contact Tracing apps that would be tracking everyone in the country the idea that states would put in these in a place the fact that were looking at the new health care version of the patriot act and hardly anyone is talking about these issues that will affect all of our lives not just today and tomorrow but for the next generation. Can i throw in real quick and i should but the Washington Post today to what ben is just said is touting how great hong kong and and south korea have been how their models you know what they do if theyre infected people they take coming out to government facilities to quarantine mass quarantine this has been talked about by w. H. O. Talk of carlson was really the only one playing the w. H. O. Official who said that we may have to go into peoples homes and take them away now today the Washington Post is laying the groundwork i dont be very careful and right on target. And feed this ones for you as well in terms of partnership partisanship and News Coverage pew also notes that while 2 thirds of democrats 66 percent say the media is cup coded 1000 coverage has been largely accurate just about 3 in 10 republicans 31 percent actually agree steve this poll reflects what youre hearing from conservatives about the news in the Media Coverage on the ground and given how divided the political and pundit class is in this country is that even possible in todays day and age not to be considered biased regardless of how you present a story. No its always going to be you know thats a good point theres always going to be somebody on the other side with a different opinion because everything is presented in a political spectrum its so hard to escape it again if you watch the clip you will news stations and channels theres no way to get away from it if you read the newspapers the Washington Post the New York Times theres no way to escape it if you watch fox to a lesser extent but still in all theres no way to escape it this land is out there and you know its its its inescapable and its going to people are going to watch it and say wait a minute you know enough already with this lets talk about that x. X. X. When you have a site that when you have a found who one day says we can never shake hands again what the media ignore is that he said if you want to have casual sex and hook up on line if the 2 partners are willing thats up to them well shouldnt that discredit felt she should that be made a big big issue you never hear about it so my point is everything is presented in a prism and nobody is presenting 100 percent straight news anymore i think i heard her and i began to say was there sort of a prisoner prison when you speak of either of its troop or both sides whether its conservative media they have their prism and liberal media has their prism as well but i want to ask you one of the interesting aspects of this coverage surrounding this pandemic is what many are viewing as you know very social media subs are shipped by Companies Like you tube and facebook of any videos interviews or alternative news reports the contradictory raise questions about the official medical or government response to this virus your own coverage of the as you mentioned earlier with of the Contact Tracing bill thats coming down the pipeline and the funding of the war on lab and china and possible american dollars that have been going into the place before all this happened but is this a dangerous we are walking when it comes to press freedoms or is any possible misinformation in a Public Health crisis a potential danger to the public and needs to be policed them some fashion while you feel. So why obviously i have a pretty clear point of view on this because as you mentioned ive had 2 stories that have been censored by facebook heres the problem with it is that both of these stories one is about the wood on lab receiving u. S. Funding that is an absolute fact it has been proven time and time again i put up lots of proof for it the other one is about this bill thats on its way down the problem is that the socalled Fact Checkers who have fact checked these stories in one case it was political fact and the reporter writes in the story he didnt bother to fact check the story he literally says the 15 minutes report that swan presented which we did not fact check the why are you doing a fact check if youre not going to actually watch the report in fact check it the other one is on the left that was done by a usa today story that never even looked at our report they simply look at the Facebook Post someone else put up saying Obama Administration gave 3700000. 00 of the war on lab and then declared that any Story Associated with this was false and heres the problem with this guys it is critically important Fact Checking organizations like snopes and political fact and usa today are being given the authority on facebook to fact check information when your story as in my case is labeled as being false news or partly false Facebook Says number one you have no recourse to appeal that and to say to someone heres proof as to why its not wrong the 2nd thing is and this is also critically important not only do you not have that but Facebook Says we can take action against your page and if you go back and correct the information it does not change the fact that we will still take action against your page now as a journalist you guys know for instance a few months ago the w. H. O. Said dont wear face masks a few weeks later they said do wear face masks a journalist reporting what the w. H. O. Said before and then again later as with all journalistic stories you find that new information comes along you have to have the ability to present information as you find it and then. You continue to build on that the idea that a journalist can not get anything wrong with in fact you know Washington Post New York Times fox news c. N. N. Everybody gets stuff wrong and then they run retractions if its wrong but in this case it is a very clear effort to say if you put up something we dont like well we will declare it fake news and then well remove you from the platform and by the way one of the point on that the reporters who were doing the stuff i also did a report about one of the socalled Fact Checkers for face book was actually an employee at the wu han lab who was receiving money there so how is that person then going back and checking journalists and deciding whether journalists are accurate of what theyre reporting theres a huge conflict of interest there most definitely and according to the New York Times the chief economist and indeed dot com said new listings for jobs in media and communications have fallen 35 percent in the 60 days before april the 3rd with the massive layoffs and these major losses and job openings what do you think the future of news media will look like after comit 19. Well if its addressed to me i think its going to its going to look a lot different a lot of these newspapers and print media that are feeling the hardest effects right now of layoffs and closing and firing etc pay cuts they were going down anyway they were a dying industry anyway and anybody who says we need to prop them up because of the virus thats just thats a false road and thats our thats going money down had a dark hole so they were they were going out anyway because of the the new way of the news media however as you point out its beyond the newspapers its the digital its its you know the people you would never think would be affected its its the buzz feeds in and its kind of the nested suits its everybody and that a lot of that has to do with that word ties ing but some of it doesnt have to do with that protesting or lack thereof because of the virus a lot of publications a lot of folks platforms are saying ok maybe we can. Take advantage of this and do more with less and do it under the guise of the coronavirus and use that as an excuse im not saying that everybody is doing that im just saying thats main i think Going Forward youre going to see a much different media a much tighter media and a much needed doing much more to more it much much less in general thats going to berenger says im not going to see theres news or shrink and shrink and shrink. It is dangerous and its dangerous to see them shrink it by the way one of the biggest reasons why Online Publications and websites and newspapers that are online are dying is because i know i say it all the Time Facebook and google because facebook and google between the 2 of them control about 95 percent of the ad market on the internet thats an insane thought to think that 2 companies completely dominate the entire ad market but they do and so if you dont use google to sell your ads for you and youre not getting revenue through facebook and theyre controlling that space then you cant survive out there as an individual you know web site that says ill just go out and sell advertising it doesnt work that way thats one of the the biggest problems right now about it most definitely doesnt steve i want to thank you both come for having this great discussion with us pleasure as always have you both on. Thank you guys. Are going to break remember that you can also start watching orks on demand for the brand new portable t. V. Which is available on smartphones for google play on the Apple App Store searching portable t. V. Or you can stream with your t. V. By downloading the portable t. V. Up on apple t. V. And online and portable t v coming up we examined the evaluation of black communities across the United States with dr andre perry office fascinating book you know your price valuing black lives and property of americas black city state through watching. A reflection of reality. In the world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. Isolation or community. Are you going the right way or are you being led so. Direct. What is true what is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or a maybe in the shallows. It appears a new cold war isnt played this time which again china what are the terms of engagement what does it mean when discount like n. Is all out war possible how did the us and its alliance oh i just find themselves in this situation. You are no offense but you no longer a young woman in fact you are one of the last living survivors of the nazi ls past im aware of that. Leverage all you like. And you can never forget america now auschwitz was really like to be in hell because you would never believe it want to go to as a copy of a course for 30 years of both and be very bad it all seems so a lot offered by the side to make it right when i get out on the farm saw you know what song to heard next to you so you can listen and hopefully bless my heart hurts. Black americans seem to always get the short end of the stick from Ballot Access issues and Voting Rights the rights to health care and housing americas model seems to be white is right black get back the devaluation of black innovation and contributions to American Progress are well documented but one thing we dont talk about enough is the consistent devaluation of black property route of course in white supremacy. You know your price valuing black lives and property in America Black 50 delves deeper into the store called bias and present day implications of the value blackening joining us now its author spell out. Thank you for coming on with us today i want to say your book explores the multifaceted and generational issues associated with black property and black communities being alternately shut out of the Economic Growth and value we see in their white counterparts what are some reasons for this and how is this devaluation reflected today. Yeah 1st of all thank you for having me on the devaluation the valuations that are the complicated yet easily understandable issues particularly when it comes to housing one of the studies in the in the book was i looked at housing prices in black majority cities but then share the black population in the greater that that the percent high compared to how the cards in neighborhoods where the the prices the homes or their black population was less than one percent and i controlled for education and walkability all those things the zillow metrics so i could get an apples to apples comparison of home price what i found. That hole in black neighborhoods or devalued by 23 percent 48 out of her home accumulatively that amounts to about 156000000000 in last equity now we know that people use the equity to lift themselves up that that money should go toward folks to start a business or to send their kids to college it could have a fun price of a college to a Public College which then it could have funded more than 4000000 startup businesses but that money is essentially extracted by the perception of the neighborhood that reduces the value now certainly that occurred in appraisals that occurred in lending. This is a occurs in Real Estate Agent behavior and the overall economy as well but its clear that if you can from our research that if you take a home in a black neighborhood and place it in a white one it increases in value by nearly 50000. 00 and thats centrally a metaphor for how we live. Today and im in america. And theres an interesting chapter that you reach recently mentioned in the web an hour hosted by the Brookings Institute titled having babies like white people the title i thought was pretty riveting because we know that it mortality and postpartum death is high if the mom black women what is the link between that and community valuation and why was that chapter important. Yet there is a long standing there to the conditions of black studies that are a direct result of the individual behavior of the people and. Who and how that pertains to birth and birth and a lot of people look at the disparities in birth birthing outcome and they say hey look what are you eating look at your diet you have diabetes and all these other issues but they miss the fact that its really the structure of. Employment. Criminal justice of education all these Different Things into ones one their influence your health but they have a Large Bearing on the amount of stress and overall outcome on people for not so when we start saying hey start pointing the finger at mothers and saying hey you have to stop eating this and stop drinking that were missing the influence of the environment why thats important to me my wife who has a position struggle we struggle to have a child and i have felt in that trap as well criticizing what she was eating criticize her exercise habits. But so we all fall in that trap and but eventually we did have a child and it took a lot of resources luckily we had the financial means and so and and we really had a gestational carrier with her to have our child but that should have happened when we should eliminate the Structural Racism and you shouldnt have to be wealthy to in order to have these treatments and so the title of that chapter having babies like white people is actually a response from a relative when they found out how we were having to tell that wow youve really made it your having babies like white the but rebut the reality is that we should not have structural race to them that suppresses early how come we should not blame others for those for those ill come and more importantly we should have programs and initiatives like they do in you do you take for instance that allows. Coverage for fertility treatments. There are many many reoccurring theme throughout your book its a fantastic book regardless of the black you know city mention the recipe for ignoring it or participating in a sting my eyes seems to be the same how can we move beyond devaluation and get back on track to try to get Movie Society past this this track that its. What it really does take investments in people that interesting thing about how that is that if he invested in her and its we have invested in business then we bets in these good assets that youll see a return but we dont invest in them and so you dont get a return the point of showing devaluation is to hate these are strong asset theyre not broken theyre just value so we have to go back to when investing in these things that interesting. Study that my colleague Jonathan Ross well the gallup and David Harshbarger at brookings did we look at a business is in black communities and what we saw around im certainly we will we straight up data to get a sense of quality of businesses all across the country what we found that businesses in black neighborhoods owned by people color actually score higher on yelp than their white counterparts but they get less revenue thats because folks are not going towards black. Neighborhoods but what we are seeing in this code that moment people are calling these businesses theyre calling the black owned restaurant the jamaican spot the ethiopians the soul food spot and having it delivered and so that they know they recognize the quality but and under north normal circumstances theyre not going to be around now there are elders used to say that our ice is just this coal because they they didnt if you dont go to quality you distort the market in a way that suppresses the economic mobility of the People Living in in the neighborhood and so our ice is justice we just that black Business Owners back home owners rennert they dont need some kind of program to build them. They just need investment now weve been down this road before to remember going to approach and how we got all the depression we invested in or we just excluded black people from the new deal for major parts of. The same thing is true today we want to get out of this war and this pandemic the recession and deal and deal with the underlying causes that hurt black folk we have to invest in the people as well as the communities in which they are most definitely i couldnt agree with you more up and your book does a really good job of showing up thank you so much again for coming on once again know your price about. And black lives and property americas black cities great perry thank you so much for coming on sir. And a thanks for having me. Already that is our show for you today remember in this world we are not told we love them up so i tell you all i love you i am a rover and for and on a mission keep on watching all those hawks out there and have a great day and night everybody. We go to work so you stay home. d to. Ringback do that and she of the citizens who said you can tell them who they will go up ah consult. That jolt of one. Syllable insurance all this stuff up. And there are so suppose. You could sing you to go do we know its a way to. See if we more. Or less do you realize through my proxy of the. Things media the police and. The streets actions of interest with the little. Blue pill. This is boom bust the one business show you cant afford to miss. In washington coming up its thursday and the unemployment numbers are in from las week and theyre not getting any better theyre nearing rates we havent seen since the Great Depression but minutes from last months Federal Reserve meeting show there is more concern about the long Term Economic recovery we spoke with former u. S. Representative dr ron paul to get his take we have a talk show today so lets go and dive right in

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