Politicians and policy makers talk about a war on nature the war is just on the coronavirus its a problem to say you have a law against a little wireless because all the laws in the past have caused a lot of harm. Coming from india the war against the barbarians were all suppose we barbarians of you know of the civilizing mission it exterminated so many people and cultures my work in the last 35 years has been based on how declaring war on humans in it as concentration camps those same chemicals in the same ig. Father and the same boys are gone 10 then turn these chemicals into ever took since every chemicals which are still killing but theyre not solving the problem of control of best theyre creating new twists and i was also supposed to live in factories this was your own 3 you get the mad cow disease you get by degrees assistance again the bacteria are winning when you talk about a war against microbes the war against my groups you know god isnt the root of the entire chronic disease epidemic and theres all the Scientific Data showing the mortality with the corona infection is much higher when you have diabetes obesity cancer 10000000 people die of cancer because of the boys and the 10 millions are dying of diabetes because our entire Health System is being destroyed you dont fight life you create harmony with life and its in the bill it seemed to me harmony to create immunity to create resilience that is basically at the root of the militaristic mind losing every war against life well obviously big agriculture Big Pharmaceutical Companies and big oil they all deny that they have anything to do with creating disease but we do hear from press briefing say from downing street here in london or from the white house the fact that Big Multinational Companies will be involved in our defense against coronavirus the. Tell me about what you talk about in one this your investigation of the origins of intellectual property and are you optimistic that there will be no payton to on any future vaccine against corona virus the 1st you know to work on patents is what led me to create another and since saving and fighting against the illusion that corporations like monsanto are inventors of life and see just the employment of billions of years of natures evidence and thousands of years of farmers breeding that its a machine that the events the book oneness was as one percent grew out of the fact that i witnessed at the paris summit on Climate Change that bill gates and Mark Zuckerberg was strutting around on the streets with heads of state and i said when didnt billionaires who are an elected start telling elected leaders what they should be doing so as we watch not just the bailouts going to the people who brought us the crisis the oil industry American Nickel industry and big pharma are one theyre not different the Investment Funds like blackrock and vanguard blackrock true corona became control of assets of 23 trillion amazon does i just create a platform and destroys livelihoods every 2nd week they try to create new monopolies just in the last month 24000000000 additional well project this was while as the International Labor organization is warning us we have a pandemic of. And employment and as the pooled well Goods Program isnt pouring us we have a hunger pandemic saw the billionaires actually would like to trash humanity trash the planet and this thing without the basis without that which supports they point to me that they will continue to make trillions its that illusion that i talk about in rebel one as well as the one percent that keep talking science over there and their drugs wonder aids drugs next year there are khurana drugs one day of it a bolo acces next to their corona vaccines the story of the girl later changes by the dea the treatment stories change by the and i think we need d a very large independent community of opinion largess medical people scientists to take stock of the many unscientific spins that have been given its always a sort of associated with the challenge of Property Rights for such drops that are not needed example attention Deficit Disorder among children is because of the bad that. Definitions of micronutrients interest elements are farms with bite it will city provide more of those micronutrients which then allow your brain to function your 12 punch well obviously obviously we tell our viewers to consult their own medical practitioners and as for your criticism of a big oligarchy with their billions who are interviewed every other day it seems for their great information on coronavirus they would say no theyre far from being negatives theyre feeding the bigger world theyre creating the interconnectivity around the world and they are emblematic of progress quite the opposite of what youre saying white now does it of the facts and evidence of that than all the Long Distance of lines have lands what is still working our local farms and Community Supported agriculture and links between the growers of food of course the problem is the land of the my book oneness was one percent isnt how the socalled philanthropist actually philanthropy capitalists my book is analyzed every sector that has been shaped and driven by bill gates it was not gene dry still he started to finance it it was. Or 5 years ago there is pushing it is deregulating the European Court of justice said its a g. M. Theyre trying to have it declared and not g. M. Or all the instability of this gene try. The negative is coming out gene tries to push species to extinction can you imagine the mines the miners that would imagine it has the power to engineer extinction i wish Extinction Rebellion what drives up against this deliberate extinction difficult arguments difficult to have a demonstration on at the moment but there is no direct evidence at the moment that the creation of monocultures by capitalism by greed directly created coronavirus surely we need that proof before big agriculture big mining big pharma have to pay for what in effect is deforestation and so on for creating coronavirus when we do know that the bias comes from a back that much we know i also have newspaper reports from india of all of the Defense Research years of china and the u. S. C. Jointly came and pirated really thats in viruses from india in the not. So we do know there was a deliberate collection of these there are d. N. A. Similarities around 94 percent we dont know it came from about doing. No we do we do that it is then been modified how its been modified is the uncertain but whats the modification is what is a defense lab is the way markets thats where the different stories start to get barely confusing we wouldnt have a swine flu without the monoculture factory farms we wouldnt have bird flu without moral culture factories you know you know that the big but the big fear of it is that it is ecology we know diversity is what creates a brick in the spread of disease and pests but it is evil to print h. More easily on vulnerable bodies many vulnerable by a big maybe vulnerable by the poison and monocultures of the mind as ive called it is the inability to see how evil systems well the inability to see how diversity is michael and i b b a b s the expert group will international of the convention on biological diversity is coming out with a report that without by the industry will have no help and i have put out a call on earth do you say theres one hell on one planet and it comes through biodiversity those bigger cultural firms that have an immense amount of money and lobby on k. Street in washington and lobby here they will tell you that we have the black death we had great plagues we had epidemics pandemics where before capitalism started we had them during feudalism not because im not saying because the plea but i am saying that they have created of false system that has become the basis of chronic diseases and the emergence of new diseases 2nd even the w. H. O. Now w. H. Y. You are so worried about this pandemic what will the pandemic of diabetes and obesity. All of the u. S. Needs are issuing and the was with tims of the corona infection are the black americans who either was with terms of pollution of the poison its a bad food they were already put into what i call a nutritional out of mind can you imagine the degradation of the human being if people in the richest country have to live in what is called deserts the died in a Little Desert is a recipe for obesity and diabetes and people with obesity and these are the worst victims 9. 2 percent is the risk of dying if you have diabetes and the current added and it when the other risk is one percent ive got to tell you that here in this country riches are not the chancellor Boris Johnson chancellor was 1st to quantitatively ease 645000000000. 00 into the footsie stock market our entire Pension System here in britain alone in the United States is intertwined with the very companies you keep mentioning do you believe that all the pensions should be disavowed thing immediately from these massive agriculture companies. Well 1st of may is made. Its turn to remember that workers have rights including the rights to their pensions they have a right to decide how that money will be spent to create subsidies for those who are destroying the planet destroying our health destroying our livelihoods or yours to be able to recover after this pandemic which is not one pandemic it is a 100 and then make it is a livelihood pandemic of course its a corona pandemic which is a current in disease fair a pandemic and my big worry is as you lock people into their houses and as amazon is given through them to deliver every ad of amazon that comes on my computer is junk food packaged food. And is not will be a supposed to eat they should be kidding you the mission of the workers of our Pension Funds and they should be taking d for mission of the 16 trillion microbes in our gut i think we are in a time where we need a democratic debate about the use of our money. A neo reclaiming of the commons including the public Health Systems which is what just see people in this crisis not the private for profit system the robber barons of today i think that is but theres still room a balance as they say big data is the new lawyer its still an oil and it still extracted from my mind and the whole piece from our bodies with under the skin Surveillance Systems being treat created this is a moment for people to become more deeply democratic and not allow the lot down to be a lot down the hall mines the lockdown of our freedom. The lockdown the hostile it areas talk of on the shelf stop you there more from the world renowned environmentalist after the short break plus after tens of thousands dead how did the n. H. S. Europes largest employer go for manufacturing lifesaving p p to begin communist china for it. The world is driven by. One person. A day or so thinks. We dare to ask. As we have said from the very beginning russia gate is a hoax and a fraud there is now Available Evidence to prove it one explains trans flip flop on the iran nuclear deal. Welcome back well be talking about n. H. S. Shortages later in the show but im still here with world renowned environmentalist talk of one of the shiva we would say here in britain at least some of us that we have democracy we have the European Union the European Parliament we have these big trade blocs we have w t o organizations with democratically accountable representatives you believe however that fundamentally to our denying of the precautionary principle which is now of course being investigated in the context of coronavirus these are fundamental to the denial of the precautionary principle that has led us to this i think sadly the exodus was driven by the denial of the proper course principle i witnessed how it was the European Union loans and biosafety that was seen as coming in the we of the g. M. Will issue and a democracy which has been hijacked by big money and the billions. Its no more a democracy it is just at the start for a dictatorship and today we have a dictatorship of money which is able to totally trash peoples will peoples freedom that is what we have to wake up to right now people are talking about the vaccine the urgent need for vaccines or that specially ironically the developed nations of the United States or the United Kingdom can get out of the mess that it finds itself in how can we stop ourselves from having to rely on big pharma doing research that actually threatens bio safety food safety. Epidemiology itself i think 1st of all we do need democracy and diversity knowledge the 2nd is those who make money out of investments in a particular treatment of any kind this should not be Decision Makers this should not be allowed to come and talk to president s and prime ministers because it is a conflict of interest to institutions that often talk to prime ministers and president s of the world bank and the International Monetary fund do you believe that at least this pandemic means they will be less able to tell the leaders of the global south to privatized their Health Care Systems what Health Care Systems they have after the Global Pandemic the high point behind insurance they will how i need behind bailouts if you know world bank and i. M. F. Are already getting ready and theres not a single time where world bank and i. M. F. Have given money without a structural adjustment package behind it in 99. 00 to 1. 00 it was a 90000000000. 00 crisis we had when world bank pushed the privatization of the seeds and that is what destroyed our agriculture that is what created refugees most indians were farmers that Refugee Status is today in the migrant labor half of india. Works as to carry sleeper all in and they have no work they are todays hungry people so you know the greed of the money machine as i call it in my book one is worse and the set on which the i. M. F. World bank the beauty or rules the billionaires who really gain out of this the now thinking of how do you mine the minds of people thats what this book does when it says the answer to Cambridge Analytic how can you mind the days of the bodily activity of human beings and then sell back lintas of the lands that is what people who have a passion for freedom and a passion for life should be looking at well the government here wants everyone to download an application to help people from coronavirus and surely bill gates has children and Boris Johnson here in london has just had another child why do you believe they would be apart of mass surveillance not only math surveillance but the distorting and manipulating of research around say pandemics like coronavirus so if you think of 2019 we could call 29000. 00 the expression of peoples food everywhere in the world from cheerleader lebanon everywhere people were out on the streets calling for a change in the political and Economic System when you create your wealth through test and people free people have the possibility to rafikis youre not just afraid of life because life can sell balkanize it really well youre afraid of people what they dont learn is you cannot shut down treat. Even a blade of grass knows how to break through the concrete and we have to become blades of grass well im not sure what the low birthrate say to that ive got to mention actually a documentary produced by Michael Moore directed by jeff gibbs that was released for free on the internet on earth today your eat it youre in the documentary come under a lot of criticism because it seemed to say that the socalled new Green Technologies you mentioned black rock earlier and of course Pension Funds heavily invested in brand new Green Technologies for profit it seemed to cast doubt on wind power solar power and the way these technologies are created and whether they actually do help the environment at all i have learned to do full Cost Accounting to not call all the appearances but to call the hand. So we were always told industrial food is cheap it is feeding the work saw i started to do the full Cost Accounting and found that this trillions and trillions of dollars dollars of channel in man into destruction made of this destruction struction a farmers and destruction when we add all that together we will realize that we were not of whom industrial food pushed by the old boys and cartel and began if you take biofuel give me 2 look like its very efficient in fact that in the European Union we had big debates in the parliament where they were getting big subsidies for by fuel diverting fuld to feel but it takes not forsooth you to produce biofuels and it substitutes just finally then since you mention accountancy in a sense you believe something as basic as farm yield now and different types of statistics that accountants use should now or should now put in one column the cost because of coronavirus or definitely and im not talking about. County im talking about oddity in the full cost benefit and you know when as if a plan has been pushed into the chemical track and this is. More money i say lets sit and talk the talk total accounting costs and benefits and then they realize theyre losing out their debt or 100000 farmers so say the 2 principles that came out of the earth summit and i had the privilege to be there the precautionary principle and the polluter should we measure nutrition we measure health perry and our work with the real farmers and true Cost Accounting assuring that we could feed 2 times in the u. S. Population theres an amazing arc of that is definitely more powerful than a bill some of jeffries of the really little Little Creatures dont understand theyre in significance in the largest or. We invited them both on dr van that i share with a career. That think it. Well while Boris Johnson the government stands accused of overseeing the underreporting of the u. K. Coronavirus death toll the numbers of Health Workers killed have been tragically clear but why is the n. H. S. Find it so difficult to get basic protection for its workers the n. H. S. Europes largest employer now depends on communist china even though a Global Pandemic was rehearsed for back into any 16 im joined now via skype from london by the cochair of keep our n. H. S. Public dr tony solomon tony thanks for coming on before we get on to other issues fundamentally how is it that not keeping our n. H. S. Public as a factor of britains response to coronavirus because the whole service with this 1100000 people a single. Protects the public. And this is being undermined in the worries it isnt just senators and zeeshan the government is seriously understand that the n. H. S. So that its always under pressure is always on the sunders they havent seen the stance that its huge numbers and sequences they dont and thats equipments and all of those things which make a mountain to be clear this is on the successive administrations Tony Blair John major cameron and of course main Boris Johnson why is it that on the front line doctors and nurses have to have to get personal Protection Equipment from private providers given the n. H. S. Is the largest employer in europe or that what exactly is the story behind the fact the n. H. S. Cannot produce its own protective equipment for its own staff well beyond behinds this is really serious failure to protect its title it was testing and continents racing and to present it and some nonsense any chance it stands in terms and so on behind us is this. Ideology thats. Tribe it is better than public and that the government should not be investing so much money in Public Services the n. H. S. In the past used to secure its own equipment and make its own equipment to a certain degree of those that cant produce everything there is no reason on earth want the n. H. S. Could not be reducing essential equipment such as generic drugs and such terms personal protective equipment and he should be doing so we are going to complain to a return to asleep Public National fully provided fully funded Health Services and we will also be our food that actually be extended to the curse that you havent even talked about the Courier Service but of course drugs are suddenly discovered socialism in the n. H. S. Surely it cannot be his fault at all as regards this inability to procure equipment for as i say the largest employer in europe and not one politician administrative and doctor. Shop nursing management person in the n. H. S. Even sense exercise sickness when they simulated a pandemic thought oh we probably need some kind of a Protection Equipment for nurses and porters cleaners in the Health Service or that a lot of those who was involved in the. Will to publish the timings of exercise sickness in 2016 if there were voices indeed raised the need saw a National Supply in preparation for such an emphasis of person protective equipment the recognition that there were insufficient barriers such a pandemic and specifically the lack of sentences out you know about this given that information is classified and top secret theres intimation that seen at least 20 to the cancer but. The missile returns is not available so why that why are they doing on time until they do not because that shows them in a very polarized and ari who challenges the suggestion that Boris Johnson has discovered socialism but what they mean how to do is realize that a nation in peril. And part of the world or us to use collective measures and put the Public Service and the private interests just finally on the issue of secrecy im not sure if this is because of the Simon Stevens who is there the boss of n. H. S. England who has a prior career as a scandal head tell us private health care for what do you make of the fact that n. H. S. Staff are right now being threatened with disciplinary action for talking to the media for even tweeting about shortages of lifesaving equipment and hand problems on the front line in britains response to coronavirus i think it is absolutely disgraceful. Bullying comes that has come through the talks and its come to top government and top of the n. H. S. England and then it goes down to 10. 00 in the regions and the trusts the fact that they might be punished for raising these seriously responsible issues is it isnt disgrace and i think this that whole political agenda that has been shown to be bankrupt if we learn one huge thing of benefit from this to a virus is that the near liberal agenda has thats who the world and so people i know some stevens or the or the agents of change saw such an ideology and it has to start. Well to tell you some of and thank you and thats it for the show will be back on wednesday to speak to former u. S. Ambassador to the u. N. Samantha powers has been about how we can change the world from societal nudges to political mandates until then wash your hands keep in touch by social media and dont forget to join the on the go to you tube twitter sound cloud its a grand facebook. The world is driven by shaped by one person or those great. Dares thinks. We dare to ask. 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