Impressive day every pomp or seventies a former secret Service Agent has worked in the protective detail for 4 u. S. President s all fascinating also media contributor frequently appearing on n. B. C. s n. B. C. C. N. N. A. B. C. You also know as the cohost of the bravo series spy games which premiered earlier this year and heavy as a new book out called becoming bulletproof Available Online and in stores now every are you doing what im doing good and doing im doing great at that moment you know. Well thats way to thank you its such an interesting time to be you know one have one writes a book certainly one wants to get into as many hands as they can and youve got to go forward so the soap as it were we live in such Interesting Times how are you. How are you spending the coronavirus i actually go do runs in the morning i partnered with Dunkin Donuts in a healthy way and actually go to 1st responders and i donate. Food beverage and as a thank you so i actually wake up pretty early in the morning 5 am and i go to different hospitals that in doing all the n. Y. P. D. Precincts like this morning we did 5 precincts in brooklyn going from place to place just kind of show nothing thank you the rain good so that some of them are working around the clock especially hospital didnt even have time for breaks or to get through so i am doing that part of it you know just to contribute in any way that i possibly can to help and then head back home and work from home like everybody else. Well what a nice gesture and that if one has to quarantine to polish ones karma is certainly at the light for endeavor good for you kiddo when you say you part its so funny to me its such health times to think you can partner with duncan donuts which in the past would have been the antithesis of running a no youre actually at partnering with that tell me tell me about that cooperative. Well i look down at this and i dont it put a smile on my face so i its just about giving back ill tell you this is where i just came from when i i thought i was worked in the Recovery Efforts on 911 and we worked around the clock and i remember working literally going through things and you know going through that part of it never member theres mcdonalds at the time and there was that mcdonalds cart going to come by every day. You know different i wasnt going to take and come out and be like a do you want some food are you hungry and its just burgers or Chicken Nuggets or something and i remember that and it stayed with me you know just like thank you so much never member being so grateful for that small gesture and i think it stayed with me over the years and now that im ill not in 1st responder i remember thinking like what can i do you know and how sick you you want to feel good and how can i help make people feel good and thats really where it came from dallas and every other i assume in the security business i would assume and especially with secret Service Details with 4 people i often think secret Service Agents must be good poker players because there has to be a lot of observation of different types there i think you have to tell whats going on to a large degree before it goes on im watching the results between staying at home everybody wants to take care of each other to the green we cant and certain people in certain parts of the country now its not quite working what are you seeing what is your. Whoa what are what is your astute telling you about where the american populace is with the stay at home. I would say just just shy of orders were where do you see the people at. I think you have to i think you have to groups the majority of people are listening i fear the majority are listening but i think its going to get harder because i mean here in new york they just extended it Governor Cuomo came out and he extended the stay home to make it seems now made and. Yeah so i think now is where were going to see a little bit more unrest i think youre going to see a little bit more pushback and people feeling like hey ive had enough of this and thats where we might start to see problems a bit but it really i mean you decide as individual how you want to deal with it and i think can you really understand it is its a huge problem its a pandemic and sometimes maybe its not right in front of your face if youre home youre not really seeing the actual consequences of whats happening unless youre in a hospital unless you lost somebody unless youve been really really ill yourself and i think if that number of people that have not exist had direct experience that are going to struggle the most with following these orders up until now i think were all were the majority are doing well and listening and then of course you have a group of people that are resistant and not following along but i do think weve done well and this point the question is not dentist like how are we going to do from this point forward because its no one expects as is expecting it to go on islam and were going to go out a 2nd month. Well you know and were talking to every pump or as the book is becoming bulletproof well get to the book in a 2nd but obviously and he chapped and contemporary american dieter around the world now starts with the code 19 and how the countries are reacting to it i assume in your job over the years and certainly have worked as a 1st responder you worked at the secret service im sure youve been a Security Consultant to some degree its when it hits the fan it hits the fan hard and it is absolutely shocking and i sometimes look at the world around me right now and i think well its maintaining all the gravitational pulls of civilization but boy when it cracks i hope that somebody knows we have to siphon off pressure here periodically because if you dont and it cracks it cracks fast doesnt it im sure youve seen things go from Good Good Good to hell in a handbasket like that over your career. You know any can any of these peoples reactions panic can you can you manage your panic can you manage this fear response i mean we are never very very reactionary state usually you want to try to catch this as quickly as possible has early as possible so that youre as proactive as possible so were not seeing the numbers and were not seeing this this you know situation that were and because were in a pretty rough situation so could we would have been great to have been a bit more proactive and and minimized where we are yes but now were ems reactionaries where we just literally reacting to whats happening whats responding and to some degree what were doing damage control the best the best we can but you want to manage also people as managing people not creating fear and panic because that some people who lose it they dont they dont do well in those environments and can you manage those people and that you know thats not just from a Health Perspective but then from a lot of force and perspective the worry are people they listen or theyre going to snap are they going to crack really in a panic and is that going to build up over time if you will let us you know i think dennis they want to feel like theres a resolution you know what is this going to absent i think thats another car were frustration exists where nobody knows our officials are. Were talking every punk course the book is becoming bulletproof i want to get to the book right now you talk about panic you know when ive had a few in my life and i dont mean panic attacks i mean where i thought oh this could go horribly wrong right now and i must say that i would need some actual behavior modification tips from you and help to quell that feeling because even me being aware of that i was going into a zone i remember snowmobile ride once on and off track or to start to get weird and i was saying brother you better start breathing here and focusing and paying attention to this earth this is one of those stories you read about and you think how did it go that weird and that it goes weird quick it goes where graduate and quickly how do you stay calm give me your 3 best tip savvy. So created disrupt journeying when you well with that situation they are simply sharing your adrenalin is kicking in your body sensing Dangerous Things dest like we feel we see something happening here we want to our lives so when youre feeling that rapid heartbeat the sweating that change the physical physiological change you should recognize your body is trying to help here. Instead of being afraid of it embrace it and then using that emotion try not to let it overwhelm you not to be afraid of it and so that you can try to think as clearly as possible you dont want to do this which a lot of people do when theyre especially when theyre driving a car accident the number one thing people do is they take their hands off the wheel and the cars are us and thats what you dont want to do you dont want to let fear run the show its like im on this i have some level of control and i need to exert that control but the more youre around stressful situations the more comfortable youll be doing that as an unexplained you go snowmobiling youll be more aware of that the other thing is when you are having some type of panic maybe its not in such a dire situation that may be a stressful thing with work the one thing i do is do nothing dont call dont tax dont right remove yourself when this reaction is happening and now it is happening just stop doing nothing and then lets check in with yourself a little bit later let some time past or introduce a disruptor and disruptors also something that helps you break the chair or in the mental life that youre in whenever youre in that negative loop or that panic loop you can do it with meditation you can do it was going to work out you can do it with putting on a movie that makes you feel good you want to change what is happening here you want to disrupt it that makes sense. Of course you have to throw something in there just as a firewall to get you back to square one its like walking into a fight or something and you get grease to soon as you come in the door i would say your 1st thing is to kind of gather assimilate see whats happening and thats what happens when the few times ive had illicit panic attacks or one thing anxiousness one thing ive had a couple or as a while this is this is right on the birds and thats thats when you need this book i think becoming bulletproof ensuring your safety in any situation not every one pours divides your strategy into 3 main areas protection as i referred to earlier i assume and our job reading people and influence what you explain all 3 of those and whats 21 before the break then were going to take a break well come back well get the 2 on the other side but tell me how important protection is and what you mean by that exactly the protection i am going to do to cards physical protection which means how you physically protect yourself in the while loop and a lot of people ask me what sense a Situational Awareness being aware of whats going on around you the majority protecting yourself is just knowing whats going on around you nobodys going to attack you or do anything to you the majority of time they they they look for opportunity to look for someone whos distracted or not being right people who attack who commit crime theyre not looking for any fight just looking for the person thats going to go down and say well we want to be aware that we exude confidence how you might have somebody look at you dennis and be like that guy who looks a little crazy us like hes going to fight back no thank you. Thats what it is the only thing we look at is protection when it comes to mental resilience when it comes to filtering what you allow into your life whether its people or situations so for example right now if we were to bring you back to call it if youre constantly watching the news and all you hearing about is all these people are a guy all these people are thats what youre watching constantly you thats the barrage of information youre getting thats one to affect you and its going to affect your psyche and its going to put you in that more fear based panic not so everything is a big deal everything is dangerous everything is harmful so its about creating adult or what we allow in and what we keep out. We are going to take a break now is our guest the new book is becoming bulletproof i also want to talk to her about what its like to well quite frankly be responsible for the likes of president s or of them in her case and when we do come back well talk about her next main areas reading people and influence and show explain each one. This is Dennis Miller plus one. The world is driven by. One person if there is growth. Or dares thinks. We dare to ask. Guys or financial survival. When. Youre just. Then now well reducing our. Thats undercutting but whats good for the market thats not good for the global economy. And hey folks welcome back to Dennis Miller plus one honest split screen with our fascinating guest at the pump or she is a new book becoming bulletproof and of course you also know or from the bravo series spy games which premiered earlier this year were talking about her comprehensive plan she had broken it down into 3 parts and im fascinated by the 2nd one because i find that people who can read people its like the old streisand. Who read people are the luckiest people because i think you can get some real good info before anything ever goes down if you read people what should i look for in a what are they saying top gun in a potential bogey what do you look for. Are you going to totally or not me that the vote well. We need people who want because we want to make sure were what somebody is saying is in harmony with what theyre actually they actually meet people lie all the time the Research Shows that some of the like sometimes and others. And there we also learn multiple times a day sometimes in an. Hour you all i know im great how are you meanwhile you know i just got only a few tracks my husband right but weeding people assessing people really is about the number one thing i can tell you because there are so many parts when its paying attention they acted listening so then when youre when you are talking to someone like are you completely taking them in now you say to people open your eyes and listen what are they doing are they connected with you i think listening to you so for example if you dont have a conversation and your arms across 3 or youre fidgeting youre not wholly present that lets me not hes not connected hes not connecting with me and i have to pivot i have to adjust and when it comes to red flags in attempting deception there are so much there but we look at 3 main things that people with people the body body language and those are called red flags behaviors of the things people do so for example if you are talking right now and were doing this interview now what i mean ive done this in interview my hands of been down here im not put anything in front of my face well as a us me a question ill make it up who is the president you hate you you you despise or who is the one person who you dislike protecting right and all those that i do this. Before i answer you that is a red flag because like you know the whole time i was sitting her shoes her hands are down shes been a certain way with me and i asked him this question and theres a shit there was a change or maybe i just scratched that now it doesnt necessarily mean im about to lie to you bill what its telling is like i need to Pay Attention to what shes going to say. And so we want to look at what people are like there based lives of us who really are normally were having our last conversation and then when you throw in those curveballs and youre interviewing people this is really your exams when youre interviewing people and you see that shift lets say im like this all of a sudden across my arms all of a sudden start scratching my head you pause and say i just asked her this question why the change and then you certain of her in the questions and then even with the language listen to the language people use are they really answering a question or to him it do they go to a completely different direction lot of people they dont like the question they want answered if you want to them of those things in out when theyre committing to something usually when people commit to something theyll say i did this i went here that shows accountability but if somebody leaves i out in the conversation thats also ref lexer there are so many Different Things to look at when it comes to Human Behavior but the biggest thing is paying attention if youre not paying attention youre going to miss all. Yes keep the antenna up were talking every pump or as the book is becoming bulletproof i also want to get to the t. V. Show 0 briefly lets just touch on the 3rd main area of your overall plan number one is protection to his reading people where you mean by influence every that one doesnt and i dont quite get that one as much what do you mean by influence just waiting people to give us what we want how we hear from you know so yes how do you get that deal that you want that business deal that look you know that t. V. Show whatever it is ready to go shooting with someone or to do an interview how do you get them to say yes and so sometimes people are very resistant and we try to figure out how do i get this person to understand and so there are certain techniques and strategies marry using body language during peoples body language acceptance acceptance is a lie somebody to say what they want to say letting them go and then coming in later and delivering what you want to say is that its trying to force it in that moment so theres all these differences and theyre actually science based strategies based on science and psychology of how we respond as people their techniques say you can use the new super subtle to help you negotiate but i have to connect better with people in these are we kind of sway people who are resistant to the direction that you want. Now i see you for clues for president s im sort of fascinated by that i dont know what layer you were in with each of the 4 president s i assume they were the 2 bushes and clinton and obama im guessing that but. What when they when the new president comes in do you have to definitely i guess adjust your game to that that human being right it must be interesting that i dont know kind of fit them in the right way. You do because each think of it this way every president has their own little personality and so is their Good Administration and theyre going to work and behave a certain way but you know what we have to adapt i have to doubt they didnt i they didnt up to me i doubt it to them when i say i am in the agency in general when they lie but they dont like it its always a compromise but every administration has like its own unique personality and they behave and acted in different ways and look theyre all extraordinary theyre all fascinating in her own ways i personally served on the obama detail and thats when you get assigned somebody for like a 24 you know youre with them consistently and that was light they call it face to my latter part of the year that everybody gets to the president s detail night was with him and the mrs for basically all the time i had no other responsibilities the previous president s those those were our president s were held in a supplemental capacity so because we also worked investigations as it investigates and interrogations that did interviews so we were doing those and then working a supplemental capacity to help out the former details the former president or the current president so there are so many different layers to invite by that you get exposed on different people and then youre protecting their children youre protecting for has a state you know in new york we have the u. N. Theres constantly for has a state coming to the u. S. Secret service is mandated to protect any foreign head of state coming to the u. S. Because they dont want anybody getting assassinated on u. S. Soil so protection is such a big big thing but its beyond just the questions that were talking debbie palm porous and god shes led a fascinating life she has a new book out its called becoming bulletproof i assume its for people across both sexes i dont know do you have you ever done seminars for women or that i always say i think of women are learning from a tough woman and i think that must really resonate with them as opposed to just another guy expelling them how to deal with bags. But i assume this works for both everybody wrote i love it you know and its interesting that you bring it up because when i 1st started writing the book they were you know you get guidance from people its like oh you should write for women in the house like no this is for everybody like this exist for everyone everything in this book is not just for women its for men too and ironic that a lot of people dont know what men are more likely to be victims of Violent Crime women are more likely to be event thems of some type of Sexual Assault or men are going to be victims of Violent Crime and so i was very determined i think just because im a woman im not going to write a book for women this book is for everything i wrote it gender neutral it tips the strategies its all stuff that i learned from the best of the best to training academies to working with some of the greatest and most brilliant people and so i took it all and put it in the book and i really was kind of like this is not another i am woman hear her book this is just like look this is where i learned i hope you can help you tell me about spy games i dont know much about it i know it premiered earlier this year tell the folks yes just live games is a competition series where we had 10 contestants and it was essentially a slave do you have what it takes to be a spy and we create these missions so to speak and every episode you put them through a mission we put it through some type of training then mission and then we see how well they perform are whens it 100000. 00 in the end but i was myself i was one of the judges on the show. The 8 agent officer and a former f. B. I. Agent so with 3 of us well put them through these scenarios then we would test them on we see how it performs who did well who panics you know who was fair based who was not good at listening you know it was we really took like our experience from training and trying to put it on the individual and when i run it into it you know interestingly what happened is we also saw like a transition happen from especially those contestants that. Stayed on the competitors est onselen the end you see kind of like who they were when they 1st came in and this of illusion of who they became was the end of the series we just kind of similar to like train me with your training if you come in one way the new leave a different way. And that is really the essence of the show it was pretty pretty awesome some of the missions i wanted to do myself it will hang up on the side of a building and have them memorize something and then take a test on it put him in an ice bath and solve a puzzle so its really about taking that the the mental part and the physical part in testing and testing them in both simultaneously putting stress on him how do you perform under stress do you break do you excel i hope when you gave the 100000. 00 you put in a parcel died near the aldrich ames bridge where he used to leave his drops. Just for a legitimate visit we put up there were having you on every and we got a whole bunch of us social Media Questions people are fascinated by stuff like this it has its own intrigue it also has its own pragmatism and the times we live in i think everybody so i guess i had a rifle with anxiety that they want some sort of comment to have in a book like this provides it so let me read a few questions to you brian hart on facebook. Which president actually needed the most protection where the higher threats to some more than over the others are you not supposed to speak out of turn about stuff like that. Some of it is classified so i wont speak too much about it but what i can say is every every president had their own unique threats so if you look at George Bush Jr right towards the end of his presidency he had a lot of threats simply because people were very didnt agree with him politically about the war and Different Things there so he had a different level of threats than you have someone like present barack obama who says he was given he had other thoughts based on his ringback his race and so every president and its the time its like how do people feel about that president what is happening in the world are people happy are people not happy and so that its kind of the flush with president bush if you think about in the beginning everybody loved him and there was a shift so its is never a kind of static across the board it changes it changes no you adapt to it so theres no clear answer to that but they they do assess you know the threats that do come in they they add allies and the categorize them what type the are when their its based on prejudice whether its grace based on you know political view whether its based on somebody maybe having in a normal interest in someone we protected sometimes it didnt matter who it was they would just get a threat simply because they were present in the United States goes with the turf sadly in the times with the city harrington writes and this is a good one to wrap it up like because imo it needed by this i knew 43 a lot i found him to be a funny guy as i did 41 who was the funny this president that you worked with or they i didnt i have i assume put a good said see over 2 in a way but who do you remember making your life what a great irony oh now yeah yeah he did that. Part of him you know just he wasnt him. I spent a little time with their i dont want to do that thing where every but i just remembered youd sit there and youre in a weird state because youre the president you think i guess this is going to be stilted and then all of a sudden the leans over and says something to you thats. Not of course youre reminded there are tears gags you know its of the just people. Yeah he was a he was a funny guy youre a fascinating woman every pub for us and the bravo series im sure you can find somewhere everything stays run in perpetuity now and it sounds like a fun thing im going to try it at spy games at the mirror earlier this year sounds like theyve completed the season but as i said everything stays perpetually available and the new book is called becoming bulletproof and its Available Online and in stores now and evi i appreciate your time you were you were definitely the spy who stayed in from the cold at this point in history but thank you for joining us thank you so much for having me to. Dr allow cluster primary democrats and their media friends have decided on joe biden as their Party Nominee is healing to bill will the progressive song in line what hes joked offering voters and will the d. N. C. Experience miers last november. Seem wrong wrong wrong just dont call. Me. Yet to see palin these days. And indeed. The trail. 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