Because visionary. During times when its hard to say what next week. In one thing in. The world change. For the. Thomas wright executive director into near futurist at colorado its been changed its just great to have you with us so much to talk about you know all the conveyance of the moment that stuff to condemn make will never be to say like it was like post 911 will there will be a past corroding world but why are we so sure because they did back the world not after 911 it really didnt end up being that much different. Yeah. There are several factors that make mr different 1st of all the coal economy was never designed to just shut down and be restarted and yet. Were going to start saying all kinds of whole send in things from the start. Start up again our supply chains are going to be all messed up. But people go back to work a lot of people on earth have had time to think about what their job was and what they were doing and a lot of people are going to decide that they dont want to go back to that same job they want to do Something Different and so theyre going to this is going to be the biggest job transition of all industry. So overall when you when you when you factor in all of these things together i think the sense of being the most expensive crisis of all history. From from an economic standpoint i think it actually rivals route work too. Its just huge going to be hugely expensive as we start trying to put all the pieces back together again. When steady engine stops churning it get it started again or were going to start seeing all these cracks in theres so many of these little Small Businesses that were out there that were striving that are just days away from just collapsing completely and i think a lot of them oh away. At the same token were seeing that we can actually. The Digital Economy people working on Digital Products on line things and services. So scripts whatever those things are going to thrive and Digital Technology i think will will continue to progress throughout all this but the anything in the physical world that requires a lot of people gathering together its going to take a long time to get started going to have a line not that the. Another thing that im thinking a stave match to surveil a day that we have been placed rag well the matches deployed during this on the time we maintain placed on the crisis now because you know what they say nothing is more permanent than the temporary. So theres a phrase going around that were in the post marmol era that that all the rules of the past some of them may or may not apply anymore and we have to figure out which ones they are any technology thats crazy with all the best of intentions can be of use and be used in the wrong way so we always have to guard against that. Now. In hand so many respects the governments have stepped in. And they. Are very heavy handed and how they its all not a top down Decision Making. To force compliance to make sure that people are are are doing what what they want them to do the to stay indoors never not affecting each other. The same token that the surveillance. Comes at us and lots of bad ways as well. And we can. Were going to start micromanaging a lot of people as a result of this and i think the best for we run into lots of resistance and. 2 im not diminish sure but i think we i think we are right in to what i call the backlash the backlash is coming think is going to be coming in a in a big way because people are falling through the cracks in this different programs and everything to support Small Businesses the end eventually to help them out. I think too many of them are going to fall through the cracks and then thats only have the rioting in the streets that they have a lot of people protesting lots of things go wrong at that point so we have to sell if were getting just from a century. Maybe like a week or 2 ago there was a big article by you well know how our you know him and basically see the coined the article was about the fact that we dont have to choose between privacy and our house so my question to you the setting you really think we can have both. See theres lots of people that think well be better off in a radically transparent world that if we knew everything about everybody that wed all live in a much safer world now the flaw in that thinking is if i know everything about you then i know what your credit card numbers are your Bank Account Numbers your passports and suddenly we loose our ability to alter things and that ownership ability is sunday should alter the way the world works and so we all need some sort of a privacy bubble around each of us what that looks like hasnt been defined legally it hasnt been defined culturally or technologically and and so each time some new Technology Comes along attempts to pierce the privacy may also the speak. So its going to be a challenging situation to find the right balance to find the right mix and 2 i think for a long ways from that you know heres another aspect and within that kind knowledge we sort of stand united in this battle as im. There all ages telnaes to race for humanity not for nations so countries push aside their differences share information finding ben how wary nate and this is remarkable proof that we can actually truly consolidate in the face of global threat but well to sally that area last one from benghazi nobody. So were very united in this single cause. But conflict will always arise for always going to have conflict whether its between regional groups or between nations are between tromp anees going to have conflict in the way that we result that conflict is is going to continually morph and change over time. So as we have large corporations that are fighting other a large corporations the tool set to use for wage cheneys battles are going to morphin and shift. Our billy to hack into things sent to. Essentially rewrite history because weve weve created this whole stream of fake news that. Ringback causes the world to think differently that shifts the Global Opinion against this company or that group of people. Those tools are going to radically different and and so were going to be struggling with trying to deal with with this all. Kind of these mind games that weve never played in the past. But if there are any hope for at least that are man on batteries more populated world after coming 19 i will i think it because i mean i know that the money plan prevented flu in 1983 change much during good comprehension but im thinking maybe were to bomb them i mean weve learned from praying and im going to help clean that humanity is better than what we need care you think him maybe we could be better off coming out of comic 19 in terms of helping each other and more and less with each other. Yeah. Yeah theres. Where were much more globally aware than ever before so. People got caught off guard with the speed of change with us. There are so many things that happened so fast that suddenly we had shortages just everywhere instantly now the fact that. That were aware of whats happening in china or at whats happening in russia or whats happening in australia in south africa where we instantly know what with changes are being made in all of these places this is this is different this instant awareness gives us a commonality a feeling that were in this together. So will this set the stage 1st for a kind of a better green of humanity. I always wish it could but i skeptical on that front so theres that in the in a political world theres too theres too much value in having a common enemy and thats that makes it challenging so even as an as an example in hollywood whatever well we have all the movies you have all the Television Shows we always need a bad guy you need a bad guy in every in harry scenario and every story has been told you need a bad guy and and so thats thats kind of the way weve been raised from birth to think that there are good people and bad people and somehow we separate of that way i think we can move beyond that but i think sort of take out a whole new level of consciousness. Well what about our values and the way theyre changing because. Weve got the law about this that make in terms so the values that are going to change afterwards last decades have been marked with move and consumerism Consumer Society i mean will buy will they just buy stuff that we dont really need what do you think will happen after when we go back to this unreasonable consumption of stuff or on the contrary. Yeah. So if you asked if you asked the question what were your goals 6 months ago and. How to how those goals changed in the last 6 months youre going to find that a lot of the things you thought were so important d 6 months ago are preferrable s. That those are those that think sat wow thats really dumb to be caring about that or am i more in servile mode today im more into knowing where the foods going to come from trade get space mass where publics. Going to have enough money to pay for the food and the rent and water and all of those states. All of all of these priorities start to change and so. 1 its. Its hard hard to say hard to say. Were speculating on so many fronts right now as to what changes permanently and what changes temporarily. I mean i keep going back to when do we when do we go back to the. Place where re actually have you know a 1000 people can get together close corners and have conversations. Like were doing last summer if we could have a concert a festival or crate down main street with all of these things that you just are scared to do right at the moment how on before we return to that i thinks going to be a while im open and patient break right now when were back well continue talking to thomas radke youre the curator at a given chicken talking about what the wild im going to be like obama by written by me or. That is called dont play your team listen. To the law and they can see. They can be so easy when you dont believe. You take the safe rule sets walk next dont. You somebody else take the. Sort of the. Im going to be economic with the break if theres going to be one can be expected for the pandemic is one its for almost a pandemic changed economy. Is there any chance of returning to pretend any condition. And were back with the near future that. You know over the past couple of. 100 men who did. That own line climbing to gradually the men people and sort of badly a pink human contact because. Some of them were saying that alas we need valli a human contact. Thing in a future now lets not learn what. They have got make now coronavirus bursting with him and complex will try to back. Where. Yeah i often get asked the question of how on the far per child meeting as good as meeting somebody in person. Meeting somebody in person or spots a sidebar conversations or spots a body language there is that little beat us that comes down somebody is for it that you mess if youre doing a virtual me. And so ive kind of come to the conclusion that once a Virtual Meeting is as good as meeting so many in person were still not going to go there so somehow 2 the Virtual Meeting needs to be better and meeting somebody in person and so if you can answer that question of what constitutes better then i think that. Thats kind of radically change the equation so i think somebody will hand you the keys to the kingdom if you can answer that question i have met many women half of my lemony safe they think like you know the difference between falling in love when the perfect around but not when i say are a human being i mean that the key thing for him content in town maybe i make plain a month playing it is Energy Energy chemistry how can you get that on line. Right and. These are their rational stouts that concretely to be encrypted in code right its the theres no replacement for the human touch. And. As humans for a social creatures by nature we want to be around other people right now shaking hands with somebody has become a symbol for youre an idiot. Im a big hug or i love to hug people ill say here i cant wait till this is oversight can hug everyone read it. And so all of these things are taboo right at the moment and somehow we need to get back to that because we start craving this this interaction. I specially want to hug my grand kids again i have been able to do that for over a month now and that stuff becomes extremely challenging so. Theres no replacement for these things somehow we need to get past this this fear and ease the anxiety about possibly catching something and then get back to to humanity as i was meant to be. What do you think will happen to this freedom of travel i mean you can spot paris right now to security chat with i dont know lets say a metal detector but you cant really get past the person carrying the potentially deadly virus when we now have to test all known and known viruses before which is to go abroad in the case in our business trip. Yeah thats such a thats such a great question. So the next time you get onto a bus around an airplane or on a train. Has somebody gone through and scans for possible viruses in that environment i dont know that we really have the technology for doing that yet. Somehow we need to get there we need to be able to find that can we get to a quite where maybe we can have it trotting out our skin and that makes us impervious so that can we. Somehow get dipped into this bad of like when and we get hold out and suddenly roach coded in a layer on our skin and that makes us so that were. Impervious to any disease. Will never be just have to cover our face somehow. All of these things that raise a lot of interesting questions but i think its going to spurs so many a. Head of ingenious new technologies to come out of the weather because whenever theres a problem theres an opportunity and the really smart people are looking for where the opportunities are in all this is how thats where the money it sets thats for all the attend some of i think were going to create a whole new breed of heroes as a result of this him having a care people who are already taking become thing that we know how to be back how do we gain with preventing an outbreak when im there when a rape and if you can me when i had a pretty Fair Election recount when their fellow man had him think demick. Yeah. You know its a its a great question because pandemics can come in all different shapes and forms i get asked a lot if i had predicted this and demming and. Almost every futurist out there has a whole list a while current scenarios of things that can go wrong and one of the things on the list is always a and democrat we are like that but the same that was missing the same we couldnt predict was the particular rule set that came along with this one because the next pandemic could be a sexually transmitted disease it could be passed from mother to child its it could pass through our hair follicles they could. Come off of the sweat on 1 our body it theres any number of roles 2nd change it could affect the children more than the adults. And so. Understanding that these particular role sets in one of what a. Fire a School Look Like or a pandemic of any sort in the future i think theyre theyre going to charge us a lot of fronts so. Yeah i get nervous theres an opportunity there for somebody that to come up with some sort of a universal detection system that we can instantly scan the airports scam airplanes so its can buses and trains and cars and all of that. Were a long ways from that. And who do you think they came and and iraq a map. And where people be afraid to travel including airplanes am preaching now on any account possibly nagging striving to find my frown on and. Get me out where people are basically on top of each other. Right right. So when we open the world back up again what does that look like 1. If you go to a sporting event to say that you just have one person in there every 13th seeder ever use for a seat you know the airlines spread out all the seats and only put people and windows and aisles and that in the center seats do eat you so you go down the list you start asking all of these questions are recreate choir masks a certain type of mask before you get on to. Any place in public and so what is it that would make you feel safe. 1 in a crowded environment in the future. And if we chance figure out what makes it feel safe to us then were not going to go out in public and yet i think were going to be starving were going to get cabin fever we want to get out want to be around people. Somehow were craving that that interaction but were also have this. Fight or flight part of the brain thats telling us that its going to be scary thats are going to have something we might die because of that. If not more predictions of what may be the outcome of economic some day maybe month 5 and i may be worth a phone hike out what look around to me for our demographic. I definitely think were going to have a baby boom a lot of lot of Christmas New Year babies as a result of this because the corona babies coroneos are on the l. C. S. Thats erroneous. That its a good name. One thing i think is really interesting is every everything there was produced by by hollywood and t. V. Shows the movies i think theres a huge this is a huge dividing point the stories that were told d d up to this point are going to seem david instantly him are going to have a whole d new generation of storytelling moving forward are very definition of what a hero is what a villain is what success is all of that changes moving into the future our whole value system is suddenly shifted and changed so i i would imagine the good. The writers the storytellers are pitching people in the movie industry right now a whole busy new light of stories that are going to come out of this and we ask the worst are looking for the storytellers to lead the way were looking for them to give us some semblance of what the new normal is going to look like you know and also thinking that in fact in the way a very good in fact may have. Cleaning the air right things to have a little good in the home theory cleaner animals are coming back to Public Places environment is healing itself really quickly and its hard to imagine that one cor and i well when were all going to sort of not use our consul plane so its a recalling a humpback in our car starts hooting again will the coast coronado bloom tries to preserve this and by mountain a chance will there be a new standard term coalition or in limits on the bone lead him unfair and car traffic. Yeah great question. Ive actually consider this notion that maybe sometime in the future that we decide to have a holiday thats one week long and every year we just shut everything down for a week. And week we take a break from everything were doing. Theyve given us a new metric to work on because suddenly we have the before and after this this this giant cause history said that we hit on society every year is this i kind of come out of this i dont know but. There are im not the only one its talking about Something Like that. So theres theres theres so many interesting positives that i think were going to have a lot of studies that people that are studying and surveying all of the changing attitudes right now. I think this is a period in history where we have. The greatest number of. This city hall people have come out were going to have all these conspiracy theories that creep up and this will be the biggest source of answer is the serious and all history. That weve got a quite just somebody. That some of this is the big bad that we can all point to us. And who started it who caused it and who screwed up along the way and whos leveraging it to their advantage. Lot of things like. Thank you so much wonderful. And i wish you well. Know how. And i guess i will be able to crank very very back and i hope so too. All right well thank you. For a show to thank you thank. Humanity is on the edge of a precipice thanks to continuing destruction of the natural wild. Region seem laid out a lot of good results you could losing much of a leader if you. Let them everything you can hold up. And you think. I think that all of the war. Or the. Dealing in the muslim world as a people book you. Can stuff it and ship them through that disables the. Human activity has brought us to the brink of the worlds 6th major extinction of it and the people in this film just come take it anymore. Its seemed wrong. To me to get to shape out just to become educated and engaged with equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. Welcoming our viewers from around the world live from Central London this is r. T. U. K. A former director of the World Health Organization calls the u. K. s Coronavirus Response to slow that says european ministers expressed concern over britains infection rates. Report saying fewer people with Serious Problems such as strokes or Financial Times are attending hospital due to coronavirus fears we hear from an Emergency Department doctor. Were seeing far fewer numbers of things like hostile acts and strikes and beings like in spirit dont look a bit like appendicitis and theres a growing concern amongst not of question it and these patients are not great hospital in the. Northern irish politicians says doctors calls for older patients not to receive intensive care treatment during the crisis and devoid of humanity ill be speaking to the politician paula brown show. And the u. K. Government opens a review into why people from ethnic minorities are more at risk of coronavirus ill be speaking to a government advisor. The u. K. Government has been accused of being too slow in its response to the Coronavirus Crisis as European Countries expressed concern over britains infection rates it comes as the countrys lot done measures are extended for at least another 3 weeks while out to you kate easterly joins me now for more on this hi there recent so the u. K. Government is coming under some criticism in the absolutely what weve been seeing is the u. K. Government are really taking to yet another example of troll a government to link the other official who did appear in front of them as a former chief of the World Health Organization to be costello and he was speaking to m. P. s in the 1st in his fear is that the u. K. Is simply too slow to react to the corona virus crisis. You need to test them if you can you trace their contacts you isolate them you do social distancing but most important of all you do it will speak and make their harsh reality and one of the reasons i have not been constructive be critical and also i believe we should not have any late stage which have a noble able to wear with the cisco system merits legist that have probably the highest death rates in your and we have to face the reality that we were number of but we can make sure that in the 2nd wave when nazis. Now what weve been seeing is a criticism coming towards the u. K. Not just domestically but also across the channel in mainland europe for example one austrian minister of Health Minister taking to really graphs and charts and other ways of proving his point that certain countries according to him have handled this crisis better but that the u. K. Is infection rates are a cause for concern. Switzerland has managed to get down to 2. 2 percent its really also managed to arrive 2. 5 percent which is the main element of hope there not so much when it comes to the number of deaths but the rate at which new infections occur and this is what is frightening many in europe at the moment thats the numbers in Great Britain with 7. 7 percent france 3. 7 percent and germany which always used to have a Similar Development too was in many criteria a little bit above our numbers with 3 percent. Penalty now about hancock also appeared in front of m. P. s but he took the opportunity to answer some concerns which had been raised around p. P. A. Personal protective equipment and also the level of testing as well as a number of issues around when the lock down will be lifted now the government have set themselves a series of targets when it comes to the number of people they want to test i havent met many of those targets so far but this saying that theyre going to step up testing not just for n. H. S. Workers but also across the board when it comes to frontline Public Sector workers. Now weve got the curve under control i want to be able to get back to the position that we can test everybody with and im being able to do that relatively soon because were increasing. I can today expand the eligibility for testing to Police Fire Service prisons staff local authority critical local authority. Stuff the judiciary and d. W. P. Staff who need it and were able to do that because of the scale of testing well its as we did here on thursday that from dominic rather lock down will continue for 3 weeks another 3 weeks at least but he did give some other details as well didnt it yes absolutely weve been seeing other countries slowly trying to lift their restrictions but as far as the u. K. Are concerned that would only be possible as long as certain criteria are met now there are 5 of those which have been outlined the 1st of those is the lock down load so it will only be lifted or restrictions lifted if the n. H. S. Is deemed to be able to cope its also the case that the government say they want to see a sustained and consistent fall 1st in the number of daily death to give confidence that the u. K. Has got beyond the peak of this crisis also reliable data needs to be shown that the infection rate is falling before we lift any. Measures and also for there to be adequate testing and enough p. P. Available not just to sustain current levels but also future demand and also for any changes in restrictions to not lead to a 2nd wave because one of the fears that weve been hearing from a number of experts and officials is that once the lock down lift it could be very likely that it would just lead to another wave another spread and even some speculating that next year we could see a series of these types of waves and peaks are less there is some type of cure on. Medicine found to deal with the covert 19 operated circus to get a way to go halfway thank you very much indeed thank you. Well doctors are expressing concern as the u. K. s hospitals are seeing a reduction in patients with serious medical conditions as people delay seeking help 2 to fears about coronavirus well in London University College Hospital stressed they saw a 30 percent reduction in people being referred or treated for stroke while a survey from across 55 countries revealed only one in 5 hospitals reported stroke patients car in receiving the usual care and in one body is to least worst affected region treating serious heart attacks has fallen by 70 percent when an Emergency Department doctor whod like to remain anonymous told r. T. Theres an increasing fear about catching the virus in hospital before coronavirus were seeing probably about 450 to 500 cases a day and presenting to any and that was quite similar across the country and now were seeing about 180 a day come to iranian and and a number of these cases and. Were seeing far fewer numbers of things like heart attacks and strokes and things like. A things like appendicitis and theres a growing concern amongst medical professional and these patients not coming tossed into an issue that could be a number of reasons and there is and going to be fewer patients coming in with things like trauma because people are staying home and so were expecting less injuries and people generally are getting a lot less stress and their bodies so potentially less people are having heart attacks. I know from patients i have spoken to theres a huge amount of fear amongst the community about coming into hospital because i worried about catching coronavirus and theres also a large group of people who are worried about putting pressure on the n. H. S. This moment in time and so i think. Theres a lot of reasons why people are not coming and i think that actually theres probably a lot of it was staying at home with problems when they should be and because if there are no. Thats as the Health Service journal reports almost 41 percent of n. H. S. General acute beds were on acute pide over easter weekend it comes as not hancock said the Health Service has a record Spare Capacity of over 2000 beds and the doctor said people should be worried about stretching resources i think people are being quite selfish at the moment and are staying at home because theyre worried about putting pressure on the n. H. S. But i went to say that emergency conditions i think that heart attacks and strokes are Time Critical and actually patients should not be sitting on these problems at home they need to be coming to hospital when they happen and actually in the long term if theyre sitting on these problems for longer theyre more likely to suffer complications and put more stress on the n. H. S. A later time and and i would say that at the moment weve made a lot of and search plans to increase our capacity to deal with the current of r s and where very well equipped to be dealing with increased demand which were actually not seeing and so i would say to people who worried about the pressure on the n. H. S. That weve. Done a lot of planning to make sure that we can cope with increased demand were not seeing increased demand and if youre very very unwell we do need to see immediately. A member of Northern Irelands Assembly has called medical decisions to advise against intensive care treatment as devoid of humanity but a gradual received a letter from one of her belfast constituents who was told her husband wouldnt be taken to hospital if he took a turn for the worse the british medical associations guidelines say Health Professionals may be obliged to withdraw treatment from some patients to enable treatment of all those with a higher survival possibility the b. M. A. Also sets out instructions for the rationing of care in case the n. H. S. Is overstretched. Services are overwhelmed during this Pandemic Health providers will put in place. Systems of. Triology as a form of rationing or allocation of scarce resources of the critical order mergence the circumstances where decisions about who should receive treatment must be made immediately because more individuals have large threatening conditions that can be treated ones want to discuss this are not joined by the politician has self born abroad chill the m. L. A. For Belfast Southport to thank you for joining us cannot get out to get off an income i just cant terrify then the situation is your constituents husband may not be able to get an i. C. U. Bed but a much younger 19 patient would instead i mean is that correct where or what actually happened was he was taken into hospital and he was advised that if he took a turn for the worse they would be taken into the i. C. U. And he was obviously about stage quite traumatized so he didnt actually understand what he was being told and it was only a couple of days later when his condition stabilized and hans group that is waiting to see able to speak to him and she he very latest to her and she said he actually knew what that means and it dawned on him there and they were basically telling him that they were not going to the pressure of his life and Health Committee yesterday and we had some representative bodies like the Royal College of physicians or a college of surgeons for example telling us that we really need to have a nation like conversation around these end of life decisions and they very much said you know we have these really good guy who for our practitioners really tell him that they have to communicate well and i have to make an intervention to say yes to the guidance maybe there but in practice maybe it isnt always happening now im not questioning the clinical Decision Making of our struggling staff at this time and this is not what im not saying is that this is universally happening but what i was saying is that we and things like this happen the people are given to me. When theyre not enough to understand whats being told of to them. That they could potentially not have an opportunity to say goodbye to their to their loved one so i mean it is a kind of pressure situation on them doubling us out of criticizing but i do think that the way they handled this and this instance was very murky pool as i was going to say having doctors as people may or may not have always prioritize patients who are most likely to survive but im the coronavirus is a case of were now hearing about this more often. Oh it was i died and we were debating the coronavirus spell that was passing through westminster was that we had have a legislative consent mission here in Northern Ireland you know what we said at that time is that we were getting extraordinary party who are our government ministers who need to ask for them nor wanted them so i understand the tsunami of responsibility thats come on our Health Ministers in particular to make these tough decisions to pick the gangs and play is to preserve and to protect our from my work it was more just at the wrong end of round up the personal touch high we are actually getting with our patients at the end of their time so why not question their clinical decisions as i said but its more just a grind postural support at the poly the stage and its always a case of really how its handled is and thats the key point well that sounded and also communicated to the wider family what we have to find not just with the citizens but other constituents that come to me that sad ive been feeling i see all day i have no idea how my father is but yet we will be told by the department of health our Public Health agency old theres a system in place in the communication. But sometimes when were hearing from constituents at theres a mismatch and theres gaps and thats why yesterday i had to be intervention to say you know peace can come here and settled in the garden because its really not only pressure thank you very much indeed for joining us thank you. More news after the break. The kind of economic recovery that theres going to be one can be expected after the pandemic has won its course come close the pin jimmy changed the color. Is there any chance of returning to pretend demi can get. It. Seemed wrong but. Just dont hold. Me. To shape out just because thats ok and in the game equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. To look for common ground. Welcome back the n. H. S. Is to launch an investigation into why people from ethnic minority backgrounds are more likely to be affected by covert 19 in england and wales around 13 percent of the population of from ethnic minority backgrounds though they account for 44 percent of n. H. S. Dont has and 24 percent of nurses are reported 70 percent of the 54 frontline Health Professionals who died from the virus were from ethnic minorities were last week intensive care researchers said the group was disproportionately affected by claim out of around 2000 coronavirus patients roughly 65 percent a white 14 percent black and 14 percent from asian backgrounds while the last census in 2011 shows that just over 7 percent of the u. K. s population are asian and just over 3 percent black. Well government advisor should be his same joins me live now to discuss this issue hi there. Is this issue too to high numbers of ethnic minorities working in the n. H. S. I now here i mean we know that there is a significant proportion of the n. H. S. Are up believe something wrong 35 percent are from black minority and communities and of course this could have a relative cation on that but the concern factor of course is being that you know 12 look the 1st doctors who have died are all be at me and that simply cant be a coincidence but one other factor to think ensure ethnic minorities are at risk well i mean you know at least at long last you know we all agree now that minorities are disproportionately affected by the virus and at the same time its also essential if the government finds out and understand why that is and puts a new sort of measures in place at the moment you know this but number of possible theories to this one could be so she can mimic disadvantage could be preexisting Health Conditions such as diabetes. Provided many cities are bills of multigenerational households households. Teisho in a high risk that my job was exceptional you know we know about the n. H. S. Of public transport so we just generally do know that our. Communities whether they be professionals or working class. Are working on the type of job girls are involved in human contact and this of course puts them on high risk day what could the government and also the communities themselves do to protect people well i think the communities of significant amount i mean im calling you the a from. My city and theres been a massive effort by an organization our committee to protect our nation trust we work in partnership with the council and the council of mosques very solitary organizations the n. H. S. Our local hospital. You know by i know theres theres been a great deal of interaction between these different organizations to ensure that messages that are out by central bodies such as the n. H. S. Such as the government are actually translated into languages that local moti communities understand so thats been the 1st effort the 2nd effort has been to ensure that the type of mediums that people use its fantastic that i get the opportunity to go money around to news but not necessarily everybodys what you are to do use so theres different news channels different mediums social media so what weve done is weve taken a message to the communities to ensure that they get that information and we want thing that ive advocated right from the start is you know so more of a disappointment towards the government not really made an effort to translate a lot of this information into other languages and i think that has been picked up on the local level quite well and if so communication is key here is that it should aim to say many thanks for joining us thank you thank you. There are increasing concerns that people with suspected cases of cancer are staying away from hospital due to the virus pandemic the government has even admitted that as a result of this test for cancer may actually increase however r. T. Acacia to everest actually spoke to one cancer patient whos been trying to get the care she needs but found her course to no avail toni kroos was supposed to be on the path to becoming cancer free shes already been through the unimaginable twice now but shes fighting the fatal illness for a 3rd time and given have rare form of cancer tony needs specialist treatment and it cant come soon enough unfortunately because of coronavirus at the moment the trials are actually not running so at the my men all they can. Do locally would be. Soaking my therapy and things like that that way we are both been informed at the pos that she this type of cancer is chemotherapy persistent so if i will stop aki my therapy then that would be more of a positive treatment wroth of the something that could help here this. The single mother of 2 was 1st diagnosed with a rare cancer in her 102016 which resulted in having her ive removed but now the disease has returned to her lungs and skin tissue while her oncologist have a shorter shes on the list to be treated in a Specialized Center in london when the doors open again given the scale of the outbreak she and tens of thousands of other sufferers can only assume it may be months not weeks before theyre treated because we dont really know how long any of this is going to take are a lot of people that are not in the treatment they should be receiving i feel like everybodys in the same boat at the moment because cancer and its treatment can suppress i mean system oncologists are now faced with having to decide whether its worth the risk of offering treatment if it could expose the most vulnerable to cope at 19 which could also proof 8 or are still quite the doctors at the moment because theyre having to choose varied between. Peoples immune systems and this treatment and i think a lot of them are having to make very difficult decisions on who is still receiving chemotherapy at the moment so i know. Its really the choice between if you are if you are have been the source of treatments like chemotherapy they really do have an impact on your means so its sort of choosing the lesser of evils really well the n. H. S. Struggles to deal with the Coronavirus Crisis leading experts in the field say some patients will die sooner not because of the infection but because they are not able to treat other diseases as they would normally so unfortunately when we have a pandemic like we have bad things happen however let me be clear we have to save lives and that is why we are here we cannot just let. One ruble susceptible people fall by the wayside but tony is not alone anyone. On chemotherapy has been advised by the government to stay at home if possible hospital guidelines suggest keeping beds free for coronavirus patients plus a reduction in theatre space mean scores of people having vital surgery perspire own so as resources are diverted away to tackle cave at 19 there are warnings that those with chronic illnesses could become the hidden victims of this pandemic certain treatments that can wait to wait certain treatments that cannot wait must not wait for example a invasive cancer that needs urgent treatment it must happen to say were not going to do it doesnt sound right to me and it doesnt sit comfortably with me because then youre basically saying nothing to do and wait youre afraid that cant we know right so while doctors try to find the balance between holding off on treatment and exposing vulnerable patients to the coronavirus people like tony have no other option other than hoping for the best are just staying in this hopeful its possible really its just a case of enjoying every day and take it as it comes for it in one step at a time but while she waits she also realizes that the crucial treatment could arrive too late to go fund me page has been set up to help her and her children make memories together in the hope that if she doesnt make it her kids will still be kept for if this progress quicker than we expected and the children will have so that the pool of money that they will have when their own go to fall back on when they werent ready have me there with sort of thing Christmas Money every year and im hoping to have something they can have in their savings account for when they were shot at a stash we are to u. K. London. The Health Secretary has announced a green or white badge for adult care workers as part of the action plan to help the care sector is similar to the one worn by n. H. S. Staff and not one cop says it should be seen as a badge of honor but not everyone is convinced. Were today introducing a single brand for social care to symbolize the entire care profession this is something i know so many people in the profession have called for this badge will be a badge of honor. One of the same more practical benefit would be to issue free visa extensions to naani you care workers who dont have indefinite leave to remain from thursday the u. K. Government said thered be no amendments to the immigration bill and 8 letter from the leading group of Adult Social Services also accuses number 10 of treating the sector as an afterthought compared to the n. H. S. Trust or care worker father shot audio or told me that without more supplies of protective equipment green badges amount to nothing more than lip service from the government. Is not the new group of brain. Workers we are they arent lying. For crying out loud we dont have that is what we need most you say when you go into this weve got people. Going to walk the money going to work in the night. Food to go into this patient we dont be. So out to do was just look at given was appropriate to use for they sed patients is not. Either but i dont know. Patients they should please look into. And hes going to be across the bottom one years and half an hour. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation and community. Are you going the right way or are you being led. By. What is true what is. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Or im a going to shall i say. Hello again welcome to cross talk were all things are considered im Peter Lavelle what kind of economic recovery if theres going to be one can be expected after the penn demick has run its course how has the been jimmy changed economy and is there any chance of returning to pretend any conditions. To cross harvest and more im joined by my guest william moved there are in florida hes an assistant professor of economics at Florida Atlantic university as well as director of the south my
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