That you know the chinese say you missed more notice if they hadnt hidden all of this earlier that we might do you better listen theres always going to be some 2nd guess the terms if they act quickly enough certainly the testing i think even the government nets could have been on stream a lot earlier theres a new pick part of china and they show that they sort of won you know you saw that the curve go up up up its going down down down they think by may theyll have 0 cases of corona but they did this by testing every single case isolating every single case in their family they actually being the huge great big centers and put in beds draconian more than the u. S. To do but they eventually won so listen i would certainly give the medical team very high marks for being responsive now where are we were muser be far behind in terms of intensive care unit capacity we knew that up to 30 percent of the patients in china needed to be some kind of intensive care and is of the small ring in the states or near to us the ice use are completely filled with routine patients so theres almost no place to put these new coronavirus patients the i. C. U. Ventilator problems the probably the biggest there 165000 bed later so youre in the u. S. But you could end up with hundreds of thousands of people on ventilators for weeks the big thing to say larry is this is all data driven and we dont have very much data in the United States because we simply have not tested anough people early enough to know where we are but its still a small percentage of people who test positive die what what what kills you doctor in other words if you have this and you dont make it what takes your life. So its a very good question you know this is a respiratory virus versus i have pretty severe asthma and im over that that key age they talk about osiris so id be considered a high risk patient now what happens is that the lung simply become overwhelmed that is the little air sacs where the air exchanges oxygen into the blood they get surrounded by blood information and they have to be on a respirator for days to weeks to be able to survive so he actually question you know these are people already vulnerable they have diabetes their parties the high Blood Pressure they have asthma theyre older and they get this acute respiratory distress syndrome much what they call now it can kill and ask killed younger people there was a report out this morning in pediatrics about the severity of this disease in newborns and Young Children so you know it does hit across the spectrum the most interesting thing though is that younger people who millennialist may get few if any symptoms and they now believe theyre searching for the data to back this there may be tens of thousands of infected people running around those centers for perhaps infecting others and italy one of the reasons they believe its been so severe is that its a multi generational nation that is you have families living together you have the children and grandchildren coming to visit their grandparents on a regular basis and they believe that the grandparents and the grandchildren and the parents may have proper the virus to their grandparents which is why you have an exceedingly high death rate there so were going to answer question its a its a respiratory virus thats how people die its a terrifying death you know there are these phone calls or video calls it italy were some of literally says goodbye to their family theyre gone a few moments later you know its not like these kinder gentler deaths where you go. Sort of fading they go in a coma youre wide awake or youre drowning because your lungs simply dont work the statistics about 8 percent of those 7 you know are die 50 percent of those 80 and older die one very important point is you know they talked about biological versus chronological age deborah burst at the press conference the other day and like to point out the people like yourself and hopefully myself who keep ourselves in great shape may have a longer a younger biological age and that hopefully will be helpful for us those doctors who are acknowledged to have it but dont die why dont they die. So its a very good question as to why younger people want to and they think its because they have a very robust immune system that is you know why dont you people die of cancer your immune system isnt working as well so thats part of it also it seems that older people may have you know of a thing. That we call a cytokines on you know all the facets of our immune system come to bear against this virus and create a storm that ends up killing whales but certainly the you know teenagers twentys thirtys fortys have a much much lower death rate simply because their bodies are able to deal with the virus and they think that there are very few cases among kids fortunately because their uses havent been exposed to lots of different viruses and may not have much of a disorder of 20 or even a logical response President Trump call this initial e. A hoax his temperament has changed since then are we late in this. Was the question more like you were certainly late because the chinese a didnt reveal this early enough the doctor who who 1st sounded the alarm was calling the Police Station and told to sort of keep quiet once the data did come out you know we thought it was just going to be china i think the president did well to cut off the air links between china and the United States and he didnt you know italy was late on that and there are lots of chinese that then made their way into lee by train or connecting flights so weve been very lucky that way in these crises youre all ways good to be pointing a finger that we could have done things earlier and certainly the thing we could have been should have done a lot earlier if we had the proper test is the test test test you know the chinese experience that just came out yesterday theres a harvard study done with the chinese show that because they were testing in they knew every single pos. And they could isolate them and they could quarantine them they one we dont have any idea right now if you listen very carefully to the pressers theyre saying that Health Care Providers and the elderly are going to get tested and there really hasnt been enough testing yet now you know the admiral from the Public Health services talked about having this on stream later in the week but this testing only shows if you have the disease i spoke to a company today that has a serums test which they hope to have approved by the f. D. A. That would shows are the general background but this point we just dont know you know the governor of ohio talked about having 100000 cases they 100100000 we dont know so you know the World Health Organization would say that were walking blind to this epidemic because the testing is way too late you know you can blame the government for you know not be prepared but they never seen anything like this before so i think you know the thing im impressed with larry is i watch these White House Press conferences every day and i do think when you listen to you know do a purposely listen to Tony Fouchier when you listen to the the admiral there that theyre highly response. They are looking at the data they are getting in france as the Imperial College data that came out just a day or 2 ago completely changed the game once they saw that there could be you know hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cases and deaths that could go up to. You know. 2000000 or so then people became alarmed and they really start to make these moves you know tony factually said it best you know if youre here youre only there so if youre reacting to this you ought to be out there and its very hard in a democracy to be too far out in advance of this imagine if 23 weeks ago we were all corteen and had a set inside it would have been rove all when you start to see the cases see the pictures from italy you catch up so theres always that will i and i think that we definitely are like we are lying testing or lying in terms of vaccines which will take a while although the person was tested yesterday certainly lacking in terms of treatments but the biggest problem is this our Health Care System is overwhelmed im in vermont right now and i know that the 2 biggest hospitals close to me the rice use of fall i know that because i try to refer for a patient to 2 days to get that patient in for a very serious condition down in boston and you know the major hospitals there are often full you know sitting in the emergency room for a day or 2 to get into an i. C. U. Bed a place like mass general dont Governor Cuomo yesterday said and york that 80 percent of the 3200 i. C. U. Bez are full in new york already before theyre starting to see the very severe cases so the concern larry is that we are cool clique going to be overwhelmed the hospitals youll be completely slammed and if you look in italy they were rationed if you walked in over 60 years of age you did not get a ventilator in england theyre already talking about rationing health care if youre older youre not going to get a ventilator and thats why these men. Massive efforts to try and blunt the curve from some of its sharp like this to a spike to some its like this in terms of the caseload of italians but it is too little too late in terms of i see you beds at a germ of ventilators for the cases were probably going to say you know they talk about our being 7 days away for more italy is right now unless these efforts work ok no you visited the middle east but how do you explain what is is a runaway disease in iran. You know i think when you look at countries like iran that is run by you know poncho and having seen what theyve done to us troops and seen what theyve done in the middle east by a bunch of terrorists you know there isnt any transparency there is a lot of cover up in iran is would a way way too late on everything theyre talking about potentially nil youd suggest there plus they have a Health Care System thats not the snuff so you know they talk about iran as a country of hostages and i think thats true i think the poor people arent of been held hostage by this nightmare regime for generations and theyre to pay a terrible price because theyre simply not prepared they havent been doing enough testing they certainly dont have the Health Care Facilities and theyre going to get slammed in a way that will be unmerciful to the poor hostage people of this this country. Bob stay right there well be back with more right after the break. Aeroflot russian airlines. Im a journalist its all i know being a truth teller people say i make among comparable good uses like a jackhammer good drill down and to find the true news with rick sanchez because its time to do news again and question more. Aeroflot russian airlines. A fairly successful course to look at a little tactic that was and is new york at the salon and check the stunt work and shirtless with a chiqui last look at a coffee and i mean the citys full well for. I dont need to know his name for bush but i will. Know. The watch and consensus led by the United States says the liberal world order must be defended at almost all costs said differently the Foreign Policy blog demands the post cold war you know polar moment be preserved but alas it would seem a multiple world has already arrived. Back to politicking and back out of my conversation with dr bob are not the Award Winning journalist former chief medical correspondent for n. B. C. And c. B. S. Saying dogs of that gnome know what your age your best thing to do is stay home. Well you know larry yes i think there was a little bit of fraud in the beginning of this where people talked about washing their hands all the time if you were running in your city you could wash your hands all day long you were still going to get or somebody next you caught the real thing is distance no one has proven yet that people are getting it from touching service there is a new paper out this morning and they say that you know steel in the plastic you can live there for longer periods of time of the up to 72 hours so it is a potential risk and it certainly makes sense to wash your hands but the advice this morning from Deborah Burkes the white house coordinator is dont touch any surface when you leave home just dont touch any surface and i think that isolating is the very best thing to do you know hopefully you havent been exposed yet these kinds of diseases they do we call burning out you know we look at a polar for instance africa would burn itself out because theres a you know such a highly fed lizzies up to 75 percent in some countries and here you know if everybody everybody stayed inside for 3 weeks the virus would basically burn itself out there wouldnt be any virus left around even on countertops so i think that the isolating is the most important take you know of the Surgeon General me a little bit of an erroneous talking about the elbow handshake doesnt work because you want to be 6 feet or more so what i suggest is like the Surgeon General that the director general will organization put your hand on your chest you know if youre religious you could do Something Like this if youre a surfer you could do this if youre truckee you could do this but state at least 6 feet away and there was a case reported of people a boss who apparently contract the virus who might have been 12 to 15 feet away so what i would say is that from the very beginning the watchword shit of a distance distance distance is that of the hand washing the wrong hand washing but again no proven transmission where we know that people do get it. From a cough now this mornings paper talked about the aerosol staying in the air for a while afterwards hopefully not enough to infect a lot of people because were in a much much higher rates but we talk about whats called in our value that is how infectious. You have diseases that might be a 10 or 12 and theres every one patient effect while people terribly factions but with this disease its about 2. 4 so every individual could in fact 2. 4 others what happened in china those that were up to about 3 or so its drop drop drop below 2 down towards one once youve dropped it down towards one in any everyday vidual who has it is effect youll less than 2 people then youll start as siop or not but but it just if youre very good question directly is distance distance distance distance thats going to save us from this current epidemic. Of our not thank you so much youre an invaluable addition. Oh youre the wonderful remember all those tremendous ears you do it over the years its wonderful to see you looking so well and healthy and still helping the American Public is you have for generations of. Cities counties and states across america have begun instituting limits on public gatherings even forcing restaurants and bars to close in response a handful of businesses have threatened to ignore these bans calling them unconstitutional do they have a legal leg to stand on for that im joined by my go pop and tonio long time Trial Attorney and host of americas lawyer with mike peplum tony and he joins us from pensacola florida do can businesses defy any state rulings that they shut down. Larry theres something thats called the its a constitutional concept called police power it comes from the cut the 10th im in with the constitution and it allows a state official a governor or even a mayor to determine where Health Safety or welfare of the People Living in that community are at risk they have the chance to take very extraordinary steps for example the. Case that youre seeing a couple of cases developing right now were attorneys are trying to say you cant close my business its really really bad advice the government can close their business because this power allows them to actually do fairly extraordinary things one extraordinary thing is that they can do is they can quarantine an entire area that involves closing down bars and close down businesses they can even tell you go to your house and dont come out because there is a curfew so this concept of Police Powers again it comes from the its comes directly from the 10th amendment right for a city or state to say were going to take some extraordinary steps but we have to do that to protect health or safety or welfare of a community the federal government was admittedly late in this calling it a hoax at the beginning can we sue the federal government for being late. Its going to be very difficult to do that if not impossible there are certain theres certain immunity the government officials have were comes to making administrative decisions they can be really bad decisions but for us to make the argument that gee whiz you didnt do what you should have done when you shouldve done it is a pretty weak case there may be some people that give it a try but ultimately by the time skoda stakes a look at it theyre going to find that theres plenty of precedent to say thats not a viable claim it doesnt mean it cant be done but the viability of that claim wont be long lived on the Appellate Courts mike tell us what what legal issues might occur after all this is over. I think one of the biggest issues that were going to see is were going to have Insurance Companies that insure businesses larry and theyre going to be saying we dont owe you any money for business loss theyre going to say if you look at a typical business loss policy what youll find is theyll be this language that there has to be some physical impact to the business before you can make a claim theres all types of predicates that they use to get past that if you take a look at any of these policies its kind of boilerplate language the chances of these Insurance Companies actually pulling through and pulling that off are very slim in the right jurisdiction the arguments going to be look we had to leave our business the physical impact you cant see it but its a virus that has potential to kill my employees and killed the people who want to use my business we would take those cases all day long theres going to be big pushback from the Insurance Industry larry because they say theyre going to do what they call setting reserves what they do is they put amount of money to the side and they say these are reserve this is reserve money hey its not taxable be we still can we still can make money on that money that set a set aside its almost its almost tax free interest that theyre making all that money so they understand that in a something as big as this we saw with b. P. Right here on the coast for example you had you had Insurance Companies saying no were not going to cover that and we really had to really have to get involved in some some some litigation to make them come around were going to see the same thing here businesses that legitimately have been ordered to close down because of this virus have a right to a business claim and youre going to see a big fight taken place between businesses and Insurance Companies. Can cities in florida round up those people out on the beach and there are a lot on beaches today and tell them send them home by edict. They absolutely the governor of florida today could make a pronouncement that the beaches are closed again it comes down to this extraordinary power thats given to the states larry this power goes all the way back to the revolutionary war in philadelphia during the revolutionary war there was yellow fever so they literally rounded people up put them in stock actually put them in a forced quarantine took them off the road and did that is routine the same thing can happen in a state a municipality can do that they can say youre posing such a Public Health were relying on our police power through Health Safety and welfare rights the 10th amendment gives us and were going to take an extraordinary step were going to close this beach if youre on the beach we have the we have the ability to remove you from the beach so the answer is yes hasnt gotten there yet in florida which i think is extraordinary but i think its going to get there very soon. President trump can invoke the wartime authority and he has had allows them to ban entry into the United States speed up production resources to be used in the fight against this pandemic do you agree with allowing him that. Well he has the absolute right larry its i think its 42 code i dont remember exactly is 42 code i think section 20230 maybe 260 that its right there in the code that he has the absolute right to float to slow down the flow of immigration both these orders hes already doing it in canada hes saying hes not going to close the border on care on mexico i think its just a matter of time that that happens yes but that larry that is another one of those extraordinary rights that if you push it up if you say you have this right president and you have this right that some if you if you balance it against issues like equal protection or due process most of the time that police power that he has is going to trump it every single time same way with the state if you have an equal protection issue or you have a due process issue most of the time the police power is so strong that its going to be an extraordinary showing that theres been some due process violated or some equal protection violated so to get the quick answer is yes he can do that its going to be held constitutional anybody who tries to test it is going to be wasting their time the Appellate Courts are going to rely on not only in precedent but theyre going to rely on i think its i think its 42 u. S. Code is where he has the right to do that mike is all is thanks for your insight thank you larry stay safe and thank you for joining me on this edition the politicking remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook Page or tweet me at kings things dont forget to use the politicking hash tag and solve for this edition of politicking. Aeroflot russian airlines. Im a journalist its all i know being a truth teller people say i make among come from good news is like a jackhammer good drill down and to find the true news with rick sanchez because its time to do news again and question more. Aeroflot russian airlines. And others financial Survival Guide i dont find any im honest features. Almost. As unless some of my ex from the future trucker watch kaiser. Each simulating civilization would be able to run using a tiny fraction of its resource. Since. Hundreds of thousands millions of runs through all of Human History almost all. Beings with our kinds of experiences with them to simulate at once rather than on simulated ones and conditional and arguably shooting fearful that one of the simulated ones. Starts coded 19 vaccine trials promising to get results. And its also the end of the number of measures to curb the spread of the virus we visit a moscow airport to see whats put in place that. There are 3 there is a thermal control the one arriving passengers have to pass through theres the infrared camera theres a thermal camera and the passengers temperature is at they could a brewer the plate. 10000 coronavirus cases are now being reported in the United States donald trump shifts the blame though on to chinese officials saying that they failed to share information about the outbreak
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