This earlier that we might do you better listen theres always going to be some 2nd guess the terms if they act quickly enough certainly the testing i think even the government nets could have been on stream a lot earlier theres a new pick part of china and they show that they sort of won you know you saw the curve go up up up its going down down down they think by may theyll have 0 cases of corona but they did this by testing every single case isolating every single case in their family they actually being the huge great big centers and put in beds draconian more than the u. S. To do but they eventually won so listen i would certainly give the medical team very high marks for being responsive now where are we were muser be far behind in terms of intensive care unit capacity we knew that up to 30 percent of the patients in china needed to be some kind of intensive care and is of the small ring in the states or near to us the ice use are completely filled with routine patients so theres almost no place to put these new coronavirus patients the i. C. U. Ventilator problems the probably the biggest there 165000 bed later so youre in the u. S. But you could end up with hundreds of thousands of people on ventilators for weeks the big thing to say larry is this is all data driven and we dont have very much data in the United States because we simply have not tested anough people early enough to know where we are. But its still a small percentage of people who test positive die what what what kills you doctor in other words if you have this and you dont make it what take your life. So its a very good question you know this is a respiratory virus versus i have pretty severe asthma and im over that that key age they talk about osiris so id be considered a high risk patient now what happens is that the lungs simply become overwhelmed that is the little air sacs where the air exchanges oxygen into the blood they get surrounded by blood information and they have to be on a respirator for days to weeks to be able to survive so he actually question you know these are people already vulnerable they have diabetes their parties the high Blood Pressure they have asthma theyre older and they get this acute respiratory distress syndrome much what they call now it can kill and ask killed younger people there was a report out this morning in pediatrics about the severity of this disease in newborns and Young Children so you know it it does hit across the spectrum the most interesting thing though is that younger people who millennialist may get few if any symptoms and they now believe theyre searching for the data to back this the maybe tens of thousands of infected people running around those centers for perhaps infecting others and italy. One of the reasons they believe its been so severe is that its a multi generational nation that is you have families living together you have the children and grandchildren coming to visit their grandparents on a regular basis and they believe that the grandparents and the grandchildren and the parents may have profit the virus to their grandparents which is why you have an exceedingly high death rate there so going to answer question its a its a respiratory virus that some people die its a terrifying death you know there are these phone calls or video calls it italy were some of literally says goodbye to their family theyre gone a few moments later you know its not like these kinder gentler deaths were gradually sort of fading they go in a coma youre wide awake or youre drowning because your lungs simply dont work the statistics about 8 percent of those 7 you know are die 50 percent of those 80 and older die one very important point is you know we talked about biological versus chronological age deborah burst at the press conference the other day and i like to point out the people like yourself and hopefully myself who keep ourselves in great shape may have a longer a younger biological age and that hopefully will be helpful for us. Those doctors who are. Ignalina still have it but dont die why dont they die. So there its a very good question as to why younger people into and they think its because they have a very robust immune system that is you know why dont you people die of cancer your immune system isnt working as well so thats part of it also it seems that older people may have you know of a thing. That we call a cytokines on you know all the facets of our immune system come to bear against this virus and create a storm that ends up killing whales but certainly the you know teenagers twentys thirtys fortys have a much much lower death rate simply because their bodies are able to deal with the virus and they think that there are very few cases among kids fortunately because there are huge systems have been exposed to lots of different viruses and may not have much of. This sort of 20 or even a logical response President Trump call this initially a hoax his temperament has changed since then are we late in this. Was a question more like he were certainly late because the chinese a didnt reveal this early enough the doctor who who 1st sounded the alarm was calling the Police Station and told to sort of keep quiet once the data did come out you know we thought it was just going to be china i think the president did well to cut off the air links between china and the United States if he didnt you know italy was late on that and there are lots of chinese that then made their way into lee by train or connecting flights so weve been very lucky that way in these crises youre always going to be point of things are that we could have done things earlier and certainly the thing we could have been shouldve done a lot earlier if we had the proper test is the test test test you know the chinese experience that just came out yesterday theres a harvard study done with the chinese show that because they were testing in they knew every single pos. And they could isolate them and they could quarantine them they one we dont have any idea right now if you listen very carefully to the pressers theyre saying that Health Care Providers and the elderly are going to get tested and there really hasnt been enough testing yet now you know the admiral from the Public Health service has talked about having this on stream later in the week but this testing only shows if you have the disease i spoke to a company today that has a serum steps which they hope to have approved by the f. D. A. That would shows are the general background but this point we just dont know you know the governor of ohio talked about having 100000 cases they 100100000 we dont know so you know the World Health Organization would say that were walking blind to this epidemic because the testing is way too late you know you can blame the government for you know not be prepared for they never seen anything like this before so i think you know the thing im impressed with larry is i watch these White House Press conferences every day and i do think when you listen to you know do a purposely listen Tony Fouchier when you listen to the the admiral there that theyre highly responsive theyre looking at the data they are getting inferences the Imperial College data that came out just a day or 2 ago completely change the game once they saw that there could be you know hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cases and desk that could go up to you know. 2000000 or so then people became alarmed and they really start to make these moves you know tony factually said it best you know if youre here youre only there so if youre reacting to this you ought to be out there and its very hard in a democracy to be too far out get advances imagineer 23 weeks ago we were all corteen and had a sense side it would have been rove all we start see the cases see the pictures from italy you catch up so theres always that will i. And i think that we definitely are likely lying testing. In terms of vaccines which will take a while although the 1st was tested yesterday certainly lacking in terms of treatments but the biggest problem is this our Health Care System is overwhelmed. Im in vermont right now and i know that the 2 biggest hospitals close to me the rice use of fall i know that because i try to refer for patients to 2 days to get that patient in for a very serious condition down in boston you know the major hospitals there are often full you know sit in the emergency room for a day or 2 to get into an i. C. U. Bed a place like mass general dont Governor Cuomo yesterday said and york that 80 percent of the 3200 i. C. U. Bez are full in new york already before theyre starting to see the very severe cases so the concern larry is that we are cool weekly going to be overwhelmed the hospitals youll be completely slammed and if you look in italy they were rationed if you walked in over 60 years of age you did not get a ventilator in england theyre already talking about rationing health care if youre older youre not going to get a ventilator and thats why these massive efforts to try and blunt the curve from some of its sharp like this to a spike to some is like this in terms of the caseload in se but it is too little too late in terms of i. C. U. Beds editors or ventilators for the cases were probably going to say you know they talk about our being 7 days away for more italy is right now unless these efforts work ok no you visited the middle east but how do you explain what is a runaway disease in iran. You know i think when you look at countries like iran that is run by you know poncho and having seen what theyve done to us troops and seen what theyve done in the middle east by a bunch of terrorists you know there isnt any transparency there is a lot of cover up in iran is would a way way too late on everything theyre talking about potentially nil youd suggest there plus they have a Health Care System thats not in the snuff so you know they talk about iran as a country of hostages and i think thats true i think the poor people arent of been held hostage by this nightmare regime for generations and theyre to pay a terrible price because theyre simply not prepared they havent been doing enough testing they certainly dont have the Health Care Facilities and theyre going to get slammed in a way that will be unmerciful to the poor hostage people of this this country. Bob stay right there well be back with more right after the break. Aeroflot russian airlines. Im a journalist its all i know being a truth teller people say i make among comparable good uses like a jackhammer good drill down and take find the true news with rick sanchez because its time to do news again and question more. Aeroflot russian airlines. Social and i was initially establishment yes and thats a. Problem for the president has come up for for the for the look of trucking 1st for the. New chairman up against got him to do next to try to accomplish critic for the future of. This because the globe d was going. Well government pulls you into that in your voice your ideals of us have looked like your possible being in the sports lead you to play you in your fighting way fight for the film but push them out. Of course thats 4 to 6 months because of. The back to politicking and back now to my conversation with dr bob are not the Award Winning journalist former chief medical correspondent for n. B. C. And c. B. S. Saying dr that noam what your age your best thing to do is stay home. Well you know larry yes i think there was a little bit of fraud in the beginning of this where people talked about washing their hands all the time if you were running in your city you could wash your hands all day long youre still going to get or somebody next you caught the real thing is this since no one has proven yet that people are getting it from touching service there is a new paper out this morning and they say that you know steel in the plastic you can live there for longer periods of time of the up to 72 hours since you know so it is a potential risk and it certainly makes sense to wash your hands but the advice this morning from Deborah Burkes the white house coordinator is dont touch any surface when you leave home just dont touch any surface and i think that isolate is the very best thing to do you know hopefully you havent been exposed yet these kinds of diseases they do we call burning out you know we look at it as a bowler for instance africa would burn itself out because theres a you know such a highly fed lizzies up to 75 percent in some countries and here you know if everybody everybody stayed inside for 3 weeks the virus would basically burn itself out there wouldnt be any virus left around even on countertops so i think that that the isolating is the most important take you know a Surgeon General me a little bit of an error when he was talking about the elbow handshake it doesnt work because you want to be 6 feet or more so what i suggest is like the Surgeon General that the director general will organization put your hand on your chest you know if youre religious you could do Something Like this if youre a surfer you could do this if youre truckee you could do this but state at least 6 feet away and there was a case reported of people a boss who apparently contract the virus who might have been 12 to 15 feet away so what i would say is that from the very beginning the watchword should have a distance distance distance is that of the hand washing the wrong hand washing but again no proven transmission where we know that people do. It from a cough now this mornings paper talked about the aerosol staying in the air for a while afterwards hopefully not enough to infect a lot of people because we have been a much much higher rates but we talk about whats called in our value that is how infectious. You have diseases that might be a 10 or 12 others every one patient effect while people terribly factions but with this disease its about 2. 4 so every individual could in fact 2. 4 others what happened in china those that were up to about 3 or so its drop drop drop below 2 down towards one once youve dropped it down towards one in any everyday vidual who has it is effect youll less than 2 people then youll start as c aparna but but it just if youre very good question directly is distance distance distance distance thats going to save us from this current epidemic. Of our not thank you so much youre an invaluable addition. Oh youre the wonderful remember all those tremendous ears the doing over the years its wonderful to see you looking so well and healthy and still helping the American Public as you have for generations of. Cities counties and states across america have begun instituting limits on public gatherings even forcing restaurants and bars to close in response a handful of businesses have threatened to ignore these bans calling them unconstitutional do they have a legal leg to stand on for that im joined by my go pop and tonio long time Trial Attorney and host of americas lawyer with mike peplum tony and he joins us from pensacola florida do can businesses defy any state rulings that they shut down. Larry theres something thats called the its a constitutional concept called police power it comes from the cut the 10th im in with the constitution and it allows a state official a governor or even a mayor to determine where Health Safety or welfare of the People Living in that community are at risk they have the chance to take very extraordinary steps for example the. Case that youre seeing a couple of cases developing right now were attorneys are trying to say you cant close my business its really really bad advice the government can close their business because this power allows them to actually do fairly extraordinary things one extraordinary thing is that they can do is they can quarantine an entire area that involves closing down bars and close down businesses they can even tell you go to your house and dont come out because there is a curfew so this concept of Police Powers again it comes from the its comes directly from the 10th amendment right for a city or state to say were going to take some extraordinary steps but we have to do that to protect health or safety or welfare of a community the federal government was admittedly late in this calling it a hoax at the beginning can we sue the federal government for being late. Its going to be very difficult to do that if not impossible there are certain theres certain immunity the government officials have were comes to making administrative decisions they can be really bad decisions but for us to make the argument the gee whiz you didnt do what you should have done when you should have done it is a pretty weak case there may be some people that give it a try but ultimately by the time skoda takes a look at it theyre going to find that theres plenty of precedent to say thats not a viable claim it doesnt mean it cant be done but the viability of that claim wont be long lived on the Appellate Courts. Mike tell us what what legal issues might occur after all this is over i think one of the biggest issues that were going to see is were going to have Insurance Companies that insure businesses larry and theyre going to be saying we dont owe you any money for business loss theyre going to say if you look at a typical business loss policy what youll find is theyll be this language that there has to be some physical impact to the business before you can make a claim theres all types of predicates that they use to get past that if you take a look at any of these policies its kind of boilerplate language the chances of these Insurance Companies actually pulling through and pulling that off are very slim in the right jurisdiction the arguments going to be look we had to leave our business the physical impact you cant see it but its a virus that has potential to kill my employees and killed the people who want to use my business we would take those cases all day long theres going to be big pushback from the Insurance Industry larry because they say theyre going to do what they call setting reserves what they do is they put amount of money to the side and they say these are reserve this is reserve money hey its not taxable be we still can we still can make money on that money that set a set aside its almost its almost tax free interest that theyre making all that money so they understand that in a something as big as this we saw with b. P. Right here on the coast for example you had you had Insurance Companies saying no were not going to cover that and we really had to really have to get involved in some some some litigation to make them come around were going to see the same thing here businesses that legitimately have been ordered to close down because of this virus have a right to a business claim and youre going to see a big fight taken place between businesses and Insurance Companies. Can cities in florida round up those people out on the beach and there are a lot on beaches today and tell them send them home by edict. They absolutely the governor of florida today could make a pronouncement that the beaches are closed again it comes down to this extraordinary power thats given to the states larry this power goes all the way back to the revolutionary war in philadelphia during the revolutionary war there was yellow fever so they literally rounded people up put them in stock actually put them in a forced quarantine took them off the road and did that is routine the same thing can happen in a state a municipality can do that they can say youre posing such a Public Health were relying on our police power through Health Safety and welfare rights the 10th amendment gives us and were going to take an extraordinary step were going to close this beach if youre on the beach we have the we have the ability to remove you from the beach so the answer is yes hasnt gotten there yet in florida which i think is extraordinary but i think its going to get there very soon President Trump can invoke the wartime authority and he has that allows them to ban entry into the United States speed up production resources to be used in the fight against this pandemic do you agree with allowing him that. Well he has the absolute right larry its i think its 42 code i dont remember exactly is 42 code i think section 20230 maybe 260 that its right there in the code that he has the absolute right to float to slow down the flow of immigration both hes already doing it in canada hes saying hes not going to close the border and cant on the mexico i think its just a matter of time that that happens yes but that and larry that is another one of those extraordinary rights that if you push it up if you say you have this right president and you have this right that some if you if you balance it against issues like equal protection or due process most of the time that police power that he has is going to trump it every single time same way with the state if you have an equal protection issue or you have a due process issue most of the time the police power is so strong that its going to be an extraordinary showing that theres been some due process violated or some equal protection violated so to get the quick answer is yes he can do that its going to be held constitutional anybody who tries to test it is going to be wasting their time the Appellate Courts are going to rely on not only in precedent but theyre going to rely on i think its i think its 42 u. S. Code is where he has the right to do that mike is own stands fear inside thank you larry. Stay safe and thank you for joining me on this edition the politicking remember you can join the conversation on my Facebook Page or tweet me at kings things dont forget to use the politicking hash tag and thats all for this edition of politicking. Better if long russian airlines. Im a journalist its all i know being a truth teller people say i make among come from good uses like a jackhammer good drill down to find the true news with rick sanchez because its time to do news again and question more. Better if long russian airlines. Everything is collapsing against the dollar. So how long will that last probably not. A long time because. As weve seen during brain woods or through the plaza a horde of the 1980 s. Theres going to have to be global coordinated sit down to rearrange the global 4 x. Market rearrange the global currency grid and the dollar is not the thing theyre going to have to match against because that runaway value on the dollar is whats causing this deflation and causing the global depression part. Of the course. Was. To show the speech look you feel and i. Would not only do this move but i will. Know. The most recent. I. Mean 7 am on a friday morning here in moscow good morning when the headlines from us. International the coronavirus death toll in italy overtakes china and one the city of the army is drafted in to help transport coffins out of the area. Moscow starts building a new hospital complex outside the city to treat patients to be up and running in less than a month. Britains national Health Service braces for a surge in coronavirus patients but the number of new cases almost doubling by the day. Here the russian Capital Police to be bring in the news to stay with various social media for the latest from us 24. 00 sevenths
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