Into some problems because if this is not the mission of the west or what is the west coast we see now the material wealth is going but also decide of taking liberalism to the extreme is now proving to have a very bad effects both internally within the west but also creating very bad relations with external powers and they dont seem to connect that these 2 are very much related. And where that where the causes are limited our guest here in athens i mean one of the things i find quite fascinating in running up to this security conference in munich is that in this term west listeners its should be a criticism of neo liberalism thats whats destroying the west and that to it is threatening the world i mean the lack of reflection on the part of these people its just a step out of me they are the problem and once theyre fixed then then europe can actually find its own footing its own identity instead of having it forced down its throat this her ripping. Ideology that people are protesting left and right and Center Briggs that is the best example go ahead. You have there the problem is russia is in a peter rabbit. Restless and this is yeah and china now as well but west listen this is what the west is doing to itself youre exactly right i mean west listeners its this neo liberal policy that weve all been living under its the Mass Immigration its the destruction of religion the structure of family the censorship the woken the identity politics this is all coming from the neo liberal west west listening is the neo liberal west destroying itself but like you said peter its russias fault its chinas fault everyone elses fault thats whats this this is what theyre doing to themselves theyre theyre destroying their own society that they have built and theyre doing it in an incredible unbelievable fashion you know what i find really in standing you know alice cooper used the word walk and woking is here but you know theres no real reflection on the part of these elites and say much of the world would like to have traditional western values in their own lives and mostly ok they strive for it and the west is actually committing. A form of political and cultural suicide i think its the rest of the world envied what would be traditional European Values explaining it sim and doing it on a personal level i mean who is concerned the war without the west german present that you know. Well let me remind you of that day it was mr started mild who was supposed to guarantee they greenman to between the ukrainian opposition and president general on that point if february 2014 and that position just when they had an old kid in policeman burning their headquarters. Just body and we are in ukraine and we started my didnt say worked people from their position basically breaching this agreement and then in 2 years mr portugal said we just lost this document that mr bush started my government you to come find it then you were in my in my office so and this man is now a bad enough so that you asked china and russia make it was more dangerous and he is saying that we just called it germany is prepared to become more involved including militarily when they read it my 1st reaction was in goma 9 donc it north militarily please you know you already bought in of all military units yugoslavia for the 1st time since 945 german soldiers were on the foreign oil in yugoslavia in 1999 you were gold involved in afghanistan militarily stalled doing it you know what we need is the last all of you would not war over you if i had a question you really want to jump in so im going to go i dont. Want to go just walking because thats an important aspect because the problem now under this new law a new liberal policy is the reason its destroying the west its also alecs of the mcwhirter others because neither the political left or the right can do what they want their actual political objectives are on the left they want to redistribute wealth on the right they want to preserve traditional values and reproduce community however what people now notice after 30 years theyre starting to realize well why do we have this growing economic inequality also why all this Mass Immigration we cant reproduce traditional communities why do we have to have multiculturalism of our country unite under Common National culture but now theyre noticing if you wont like how did this political system coming place who authorized it and now that theyre trying to complain theyre actually told well how dare you youre challenging our core liberal values on who are you to complain youre like youre a man but you are but here whose values are these are values of the leats that never suffered the consequences of their part. You know that that thats what it noised me so when you go back to alex here alex you know one of the things i find really you know. The populists and all this you know these people are dissenting and that is a right to dissent ok that is a western ideal value and i dissent all of the time but if you dissent in europe then somehow youre a deviation is youre youre youre creating problems youre youre breaking within our norms ok no the norms were decided by somebody else not by the people go ahead alex yeah i mean the real title of this conference peter should be an attack on the nation state an attack on sovereignty its an attack on nationalism we saw it took gregs it took the u. K. And breaks it 3 years to finally get out were seeing now that theyre about to put salvini in prison in italy to stop him from gaining power and winning in a democratic fashion this is what this caucus is all about they dont know what people to feel like theyre a part of their country of their nation and so were going to do is begin to poll lula on him right you know i didnt lock him up i went in there and the funny part about all of this we all saw the Scandinavian Airlines commercial did we not that is a perfect example of how they feel about themselves that commercial that hit you tube and hit the airwaves and was criticized by everybody in scandinavia because they felt absolutely disgusted at the fact that the National Carrier the National Carrier was not proud of their own people their own culture their own heritage that is what is going on here thats what this congress is about is about destroying europe its about destroying what the west was all these decades you know glenn you know any great civilization collapse when it loses faith in itself in this is essentially whats happening here its as if you know you know theyre in their ideology is failing that means the people must be wrong and the people must be educated in reeducated until they accept these values and killed there. Grafted on in thats not going to happen thats why we have dissent in your world and thats why this liberal Internationalist Movement very much they are undemocratic liberals that is they push to liberalism but doesnt have the liberal liberals. The liberals the people opposing them the populists there are rather democratic. Liberal democrats so there are looking to challenges but its but its also interesting that this destruction of the state which is the nation as well which is why you dont see russia buying this either because theyre already been through this to have the marxist the marxist do the same to save the nation state is nonsense or National Culture is nonsense the religion is nonsense lets just you know transitional this and create this wonderful communist man or a man who is elevate the beyond his past beyond Community Based on anything else but the values and human right ism and you know it turned out even more care was a horrible thing another trying to recreate the community. To see especially doing the same things you after theyve fractured it so much ok they want to see if they can put it back together again no i dont give these people a 2nd chance fema go ahead. I agree with the glare and these are your g. s basically that it terry and there are many things that make it. Also true there that if there are a nationalist i did argue or just let me remind you of some of the wars that these people you know that they quote pariah state failed state you know. Normal state and what do we care at this conference from the french president could be you to europe to moral oh no you cannot be controlled by the United States all of our structure infrastructure our ports can all be all by the chinese and all Computer Networks can all be under russian pressure and the cold war it is if nor do you know for just you were. Indeed. You cant how big you cant be xena vocal big and then pursue globalist policy only make up your mind to go do one with these people you can because what they do is what is notice they shout at socalled populists at socalled nationalists you know when these people say you know we want basically our culture preserved but these people are very pretentious russia china any big country that can rival they are globalist project you know potentially can rival it and the gist of this conference was how bad these populists are and theyre just ready to come out and say were sort of. Look at the article on our website existential angst over west if thats by hand and when you skip what she says that focused party is kind of rising up in the off tomorrow of the mess made by the liberal international or that good thats exactly ok were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion its a real new stage with r. T. Com its perfect. Just the preview hope will come with another movie producers want to see. You know. To do much for the call with a little bit north of there. Good. Lighting to reproduce your already seems to have your limits seems to trace. Back. You know. The kind of good intentions of architecture. Chris and maybe even 40 years ago simply evaporated thats a compressor. Were still in an era of resource colonialism again this is a big risk and the one big thing that could really inhibit the kind of electric vehicle revolution that a lot of us want to see is if we cant resource the battery components in a sustainable ethical way then its not going to be a successful revolution. Welcome back across town where all things are considered im Peter Lavelle to month were discussing some real news. Ok lets go back to alex and thins well lets talk about the dual dual Justice System in America Roger stone could die in jail im pretty sure hes going to get pardoned but andy mccabe will continue with his high paying job at c. N. N. And they have something in common alex theyre both were charged or it was proven that both of them lied but one lives the good life ones going to rot in prison do justice. Yeah this was you know this was no coincidence that the mccabe news was announced right after the roger stone thing went down i think that its all out war in the Justice Department peter theres no doubt about it and i think actually now going after bar we were talking about the democrats saying that they now want bar impeached getting rid of barr once again stops the russia gate investigation stops his durban best occasion into investigating the investigators we know that durham is widening the net and hes closing in hes brand in hes komi its really ramping up the durham investigation and i think there is real panic in d. C. These real panic on the democrat side real panic from the state and so i think this whole mccabe thing this whole stone thing is a way to get at bar and try to get it out of it thats all you know its really interesting is that you know they want there it looks like they want to impeach barr i mean these the left isnt very nuanced anymore you know what you see when youre worried when you panic impeach ok. This is got going this is gone down i mean you can find fewer probably the one of the best issues that shows the difference in the media culture in the United States about roger stone i know a lot about roger stone and i think alex would agree with me hes a political prankster hes an operator hes a braggart i mean he thinks a lot of roger stone all of us that have watched politics over the years from can the conservatives i know all about roger stone all right and hes not a danger to society nor to himself all right but hes been turned into a poster child they need they need to put him in jail because that will vindicate the russia gate hoax thats why they wanted to go ahead and i think this is a one of the big dangerous United States polarising which is in the ones interest now that its the right. Drifted so far apart you see this spilling over into the Judicial Branch as well so yes we see many cases of this before if we come back to the covenant hearings for example that was. Disgraceful in terms of how politics is now and this coming from both sides. But probably more in the hole from the left because they also see it was a sentence for lying but if you look on the if you look at people of john brennan and you had. All of this were caught lying under testimony and what happened what they know they now have high paying jobs you know sitting on different left wing t. V. Channels and not just from c. N. N. Time as a missy so it is it seems slightly selective that they would only go after roger stone and of course this trial was also a bit absurd i mean thats a bar point out there the head of the jury foreman your 4 sort of foreman there she was fiercely. Hated roger stone he was even tweedy could be very open about it. You know usually that would lead to a mistrial or something but its the best point you brought up to really like this. Here is that. When you have the Justice Department so overtly politicized youre in youre in a bad place youre live very police here in whats more so is that you have half the country enraged by this and when you have the liberal news outlets praising the mccabes in villainize thing the roger stones of the world that youre playing with dynamite well its not the only example i mean look at these socalled whistle wars this is not a good mother good point absolutely there is this alexander we didnt need anyone expect him to have a new trial but we dont know when he came out with this statement that you know papers were a lie. In the eyes in prison he must be here or his family will split on the protection order military ways. Compare it to what happened to Julian Assange and compare it to what happened to and with snowden and its not only internationally see nannied is. Still absolutely its still its still its not only the United States. Peter problems you know this is a guy who knew what his internet that was 2 of the red square was lionized by the western media when he acted in russia no 1st he was put in jail when he was set on fire fronts you can set on fire there for us in moscow but dont do it to the bengal frogs no he was put in jail for the 2nd time because he exposed skin did it for that matter paris and how did they do it suddenly all the french newspapers remembered that he was challenged by putin for doing something bad to an actress in russia 2 years ago they said it was a cold you know it was slanderous you know which it was just trying to put probably in ski in jail now with i remember it because of the need to put a human shield in you that pretext basically they followed on pretext that there was a brawl a bold more than a month ago will suddenly they remember that and they this was used as an excuse for arresting him but they will get arrested him off the Prime Minister of france and after the minister of interior said that the socalled artist was bat. Pardon is in the cards i think for sure ok i dont know about manner for i think that for roger stone its quite appropriate in his going is already pointed out that the trial was less than pristine here its time to wrap this up to people say to pay a political cost hes already paying that cost every single day i see 0 downside for him to do it go ahead. And i think youll actually wait till after the elections when. When he does it where i think hes position now to win in a landslide peter i think bringing up manifold is actually really good because outside of the cape stone issue it was the same judge that was there in the man of ford case and lets not forget who matter ford worked with and i mean literally worked away have picked up a stone right there are going around free exactly exactly such another example of the dual Justice System i mean these guys literally Work Together in ukraine one guys in prison one guys running around europe visiting museums buying expensive are drinking wine all kinds of things so thats a dual Justice System there trump is going to win in a landslide the dems are panicking the swap is panicking bernie is attacking them from the left theyre trying to deal with bernie as well and trying to knock him out as well and smearing am and who are they now propping up Peter Bloomberg whos going to be bloomberg running mate Hillary Hillary clinton. And both it is a hero by the way brad pitt is making speeches at the oscars about how bolton said here oh we clowned world. Probably it will be Michael Bloomberg and jeff bezos a good beat you know thats thats the logical and you know i mean i think the you know i think the heartland the red states theyre going to draw the obvious conclusion that. The d. N. C. Rate did influence favor through technical means and strategies but this time around theyre just going to buy it ok theyre going to tempted just to buy the election here and were going to do it quite openly with you know with a straight face because its for the greater good ok how is it good how is you know its always the left you know that we hear is that theyre the ones that are great protectors of democracy you know theyre the ones that are shredding it if you cant win by the election theyre telling people and people on the left think thats a right you should do that this is really hurting institutions and the ethos of democracy about this is. This are the on the mic. Radical liberals fighting against democratic. Electoral this. Popular so this is also the problem if you want to come up with a recipe how for democrats to lose you know this would pretty much be a dog bring Hillary Clinton with a bill in there and then talk to them all this year only being a frontrunner which is bernie sanders. And its just been a weaponized judicial just go off to. What else could you possibly do in order to ensure the trumps going to win then again i dont think its a very good precedent in the many many ways so i think i would like to see some months of a much better caliber of their vote. But i dont know. Cartoon character. I mean its these people are liberal liberals they like to talk about impunity you know you dont want to put sanctions on russia its going to be unity well they did it cool. Again she did it to gain you know the d. And c. Is doing it again to send this the 2nd time when theyre all the same outlets are used and no one is punished this is impunity you know were talking of all the lies you know were talking about just told. People about weapons of mass destruction in iraq a new one of them get it is because of these people that force was going to marry going to. The financial crisis of 2800 odd punished for that separate the middle class and for the same in a general information. Basically there was a lot of wrong information it was what let me go back to alex were going to rapidly running out of time here i mean it just a number of issues weve talked in this part of the program it really shows how everything is the tinderbox right now because its patently obvious that people are using power in i will this all. Say it in immoral ways for their own betterment here i mean the mccain. Comparison is so galling and its so obvious to so many people go ahead alex. Yeah i mean its also obvious to bars in a bar had to go outside of the d. O. J. To figure out what happened with Michael Flynn thats how much faith bar has in his own Justice Department which i think everyone now is starting to realize is falling apart its infested infested with partisanship with swamp creatures as trump would call them and were looking at all out war barges and even trust his own Justice Department to deal with flynn and now hes trying to deal with stone meanwhile we have mccabe Walking Around free we have lisa page tweeting out pics drinking wine saying congrats and whatever she said i mean its right in front of our debates here but now its. Just a last few seconds here i think we have to say in all fairness trump isnt helping bar out by his random tweets there and you know going in there should be more of a united front there let bar do his job bar said 20 seconds go i had already said it bar said it ok real quick well i think that basically a bar its very interesting what the court we have here you know the democrats are taking him for basically openly. In his ideas on religion which were conservative and for doing his job well he what is he doing. Already is pointing out that more is being used as a sarah get to go after trump its really quite obvious argument its all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in athens and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r. T. C. Unix time remember ross nationals. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking. Yes of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you that. 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