Happen under and unfortunately this is the country has not figured that out including a lot of pretty intelligent people and people with good intentions you know wed love to keep running our stuff the way were running it now by other means its just really unlikely to happen you know this combines 2 things that are really shouldnt be combined one is Climate Change denial the green park and one is that governments can possibly do anything positive the new deal part so these are 2 areas that the predominant Political Forces like to tell us are socialist or theyre impossible or we dont have the money for them so all the branding on this is horrible is there a way to present this that would be more palatable because clearly infrastructure needs to be upgraded that thats something that avalanche need to do somebody needs to do it but and its crumbling how is that going to happen and clearly what sea levels rising. And with asifa cation of the oceans and with all the other problems that come with the toxicity of industrialization there is a problem on the climate how to brand this in a better way maybe why do you think branding is a Green New Deal is a bad idea the new deal was a vast the successful idea and one of the problems i think that weve had in america is not having aspirational programs that we had in the past that actually moved the needle we had the new frontier thats what j. F. K. Around on we had the Great Society i think for the last 40 years weve had the raw deal isnt it time to have a better deal whether you call it the Green New Deal or whatever you do isnt it time that we aspire to doing something to fix these problems or the front new frontier was had a great like man landing on the moon and all that is right and appeal to the infinite civilisation of the population in a great way kid little boys want to land on the moon but how do you get you know the infantilization which is the name population in america to agree that cleaning up to room and eating broccoli is a good idea in us not the oprah for cation of the economy how do you brand it make it appealing to those hordes of millions that go see superheroes every weekend at the box office you know you have to appeal to this kind of inner teen angsty to get anything done in america a beach should be the avenging new deal but look the point is my friend here was talking about whether this can actually be done and youre getting to the energy issue i mean one of the challenges when youre dealing with solo with photovoltaics or youre dealing with when powers how do you store the excess energy whoa Battery Storage is in development and that is improving and you know and i would posit like in states like North Carolina when they studied the amount of excess energy you can get from wind if you could use it in an industrial process for instance you started you put a windmill and you started making batteries and you you split water and took your hydrogen over here and your actions over there you could use that to provide the energy of a man. Fracturing plant that created jobs and you were trying to make batteries by you know splitting water i mean just an idea but there are things you could do with this excess power in the interim that are job creating well my sense of all of this is that there are a lot of technological stunts that you can run and a lot of science projects that you can accomplish successfully that simply dont scale for our way of life the general belief out there for example is that because were running suburbia and so many people live in it we have to find some way to continue to run it and mitigate all the problems with with it by running it differently and then the the proposed solutions do your are that were going to everybody is going to drive electric cars were going to change the internal combustion fleet for an electric fleet i think that thats another thing that people are going to be very disappointed about is that there are all kinds of weird currents that are running in the background of this set of problems in predicaments that we face for example the the motoring system in america is probably not going to fail on the basis of the fuel issue how you power the vehicles whats really happening is because the Financial System is in such distress there are fewer and fewer people who are capable of buying cars the way americans are used to buying them on on installment loans and making payments on them every every month and weve been to every possible method we can to allow them to continue to do that like 7 year loans for used cars a parallel proposal is that well have this driverless car fleet of vehicles that operate like taxi cabs and they will be there for that that many fewer vehicles to run the problem is that the way the car industry is scaled they have to sell about 17000000 cars a year. In order to maintain their Business Model they cant just sell 3000 cars a year or you know a 1000005 cars a year so there are many hidden problems in this whole matrix of of green energy predicaments in terms of this green energy of course barack obama held himself as making america the greatest Energy Producer in the world as a result of fracking in particular natural gas natural gas by many on the left and the democrats hail it as a great you know green energy when in fact the new data shows that indeed all of the Global Warming the massive excel aeration in the last 3 years is due to the methane from fracking so that has increased the output lets you know where that is whats more the whole fracking industry has really amounted to a financial stunt yes providing a lot of 0 interest loans and very low interest loans to the Fracking Companies who have spent the last 10 years demonstrating that they cant make a red cent fracking oil yes but it did create some great jobs very high paying jobs and yes also in the very impressive rise in Oil Production but for a very brief amount of time but even Something Like the economist just had a headline saying we dont actually know about fracking we dont know what its doing and this is 10 years after it happened so we dont know the consequences we dont know about the radioactive waste involved and we dont know about what its doing to our water supply we dont know those things thats from saying with the Green New Deal is there a chance that they could just be running into a similar thing possibly but the move toward natural gas was in part about air quality and this whole issue was about coal and coal fired plants and other Legacy Industries and so they were saying ok we include the air quality and have a clean burning gas thats thats abundant and cheap and to into his point theres. Were going to fuel an electric fleet with that where the problem with fuel in the lecture fleet of course is we pay for highways by the gas tax we dont pay by vehicle miles traveled so consequently in states that you get an uptick or if youve got a lot of electric vehicles you would start getting declining revenues to pay for fixing these i was so jims right and youre right theres a lot of other unintended circumstances of making these moves but when they made these moves they thought they were moving to something that was more environmentally sound but there were a lot of us who had seen gas land in its infancy and read up on our drop fracturing and warned that its not something thats proven yes it could actually help us in the interim but there are unintended circumstances expression with the methane right but as i also understand from the very beginning that this was a net cash flow negative industry that can never be cash flow positive and it reminds me so much of the other part of the economy like the gig economy that goes public on wall street whether its these other big economies that are just burning money all the time and they never have any hope of making any profits it seems to your point on the scaling issue if the basic underlying assumption is that nobody will ever make money ever that you can always borrow money for 0 or less than 0 and its just about getting an incremental quarterly gain how can you do Something Like infrastructure that needs you to look out 51015 years into the future and eisenhowers interstate Highway Program took some you know looked at the big map created the big highways you know that was a big project for strategic reasons 1st to change it raises for a lot of Different Reasons but so if no one can look out and make those types of decisions and theyre only looking quarter to quarter to your point can you ever ever get to the point where youre going to have an infrastructure no matter how your brand is green or a new deal or what have you if youre just looking for quarterly profits there are a number of additional thinking problems that attend this whole discussion notice for example that. In our discussion about how were going to mitigate suburbia you know with our petroleum quandary theres almost no discussion at all about walkable communities and walkable cities and the reason for that is simply that americans are not interested in that and the reason theyre not interested is because of what i call the psychology of previous investments the idea that weve sunk so much of our National Wealth into this living arrangement with no future that we cant imagine letting go of it or even reforming it substantially and so you know that the one thing that we could do probably just to reduce the the general larger problem of too much mass motoring and burning of gasoline and diesel fuel would be. Places to live that people could walk around in or you know take Public Transit in or a combination of both of those and in fact in point of fact the places where those exist in the world like the the city many of the cities and towns of europe are the places that are the most rewarding and psychologically pleasurable places to live in the world and yet americans refuse to think about making those kinds of changes which they get a lot more bang out of than they would from all of this fantasizing about. Green energy right lets take a quick break and is the grain details that are nick anomic problem or is it a mass psychological problem by some are coming your way on the front running. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Tyson nation will community. Are you going the right way or are you being so. Direct. What is true what is great. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Of the shallows. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race off and spearing Dramatic Development the only place really im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. A minute on guns and money im not one. Of them so i dont. Have a time about what it was it was a bit. More about. What with what in the side the local. Scene that im going to get but im before. Him by the. Body im not move on. Welcome back to front running 2020 you know stacey the 1st on the screen new deal we were talking mostly about the green you know but then theres the new deal and that implies jobs and where do we go from there well jim consul i want to turn to you because you ended on the last half saying that we have this psychological commitment to our prior investments and thats why we have the suburbia but many studies have shown that the new millennial is the generation z. Who made brooklyn a livable place theyve turned this into a livable Thriving Community and so they do like to live in livable places but how do you turn that into a huge jobs program because this is what they want they want to Shovel Ready Projects the question for the millennium really for all of us is what are the assumptions were making about the structure of what work is going to be and what Economic Activity is going to be and right now i think the assumption is well well just continue to have these lower this large corporate matrix of giant companies that you know provide enormous amounts of just for people i think what were going to see really happen in what will be a long range contraction of Economic Activity will be the real localization and the down scaling of of Economic Activity and what we really need are not so much jobs but vocations and Economic Needs is for people to that also come with the social role in their community and this was in fact the kind of country that we were pretty much before 950 you know that was the that this is the country that we were from the Jimmy Stewart movies of its a wonderful life you know where people had a role in their community and they had an economic place in their community and the place listen this of. Birbiglia is very much like the place listen this of people who have no place in this country and in their community because there is no community for them to be and you can see a lot of this behavior for example in the rise of the chain store world of the 19 eighties nineties and present time in which we eliminated all of the local business in america and we forget that those people who ran businesses in small town america and the cities of america they employed people in their community they had a vested interest in the success of their community a lot of the money stayed in their community they supported the civic life of the community they pay supported the Little League teams they sat on the hospital boards they set on the Library Boards and none of this happens with the k. Marts the walmarts the in numerable chain store operations of america that is not only does it have to change you can bet that its going to change but what about the jobs because where you live in upstate new york east have mills paper Mills Clothing mills you had all sorts of jobs there and then those sort of communities those local communities developed around it and now we just have finance capitalism or we have hollywood or Silicon Valley so of course new york city is getting a huge infrastructure spend with that building up the seawall along there to prevent flooding in the future but is it does it have to be a more local mayor state level thing or can the federal government can a Green New Deal can i say in ed markey new deal help across america i think the assumption that the federal government is going to continue to be a competent and effectual Management System for this part of north america may be assuming too much i would say that the trend head is because were going to have to reload and were going to have to go down the hierarchy of governance that the federal government is we could expect it to become 0. Only more ineffectual more impotent and more incompetence on the side there really localization and the local is ation has become completely toxic if you look at like los angeles or San Francisco where the reintroduction of medieval diseases where you have these encampments on the street where the tech giants and the hollywood giants theres a cognitive dissonance going on right there in their backyards is a devolving degrading collapsing economy and a country that they dont seem to think their have any role in having created that mess so we cant even go back to localization because were going back to the middle ages when we yeah well we can go back to it but but my guess is that were going to be dragged kicking and screaming back to it not because we want to go there or have an organized plan to go there i think the key to understanding where were at in this country is that we cannot construct a coherent consensus about whats happening to us and therefore we cant construct a coherent plan for what to do about it yeah i think thats an excellent point actually its like we cant really describe whats going on whats happening what what what are the elements that are contributing to this and the discussion seems to be relying on the tropes and the talking points from 20 years ago 30 years ago but so much is happening and a lot of those troops are dedicated to a program matic destruction of the common good and the sense of a common culture and a common purpose i mean as far as im concerned and you know i remain a registered democrat as strange as that seems but but you know the Democratic Party is all but destroyed the idea of a common culture and common purpose in america with their program of multiculturalism which is really at all odds with the idea of a common culture randy you were a mayor of a small city in North Carolina if amc and ed markey is bills passed through that congress in the senate it becomes law and Green New Deal comes into effect what happens when do you do with the money every municipality operates enterprise. Its fun which is your water and sewer no water no town youve got to supply clean water youve got to handle waste so of course if you brought in money youre going to repair your Distribution System you might build a new Wastewater Treatment plant you might build a new reverse osmosis water Treatment Plant or you might want to reuse water plant to 3 m. Which is south of town which we did when i was mayor instead of sending in Potable Water we send them actually water that comes from our sewage Treatment Plant which is more environmentally sound and smarter there are a lot of things that local governments can do that put people to work like filling potholes and building sidewalks so you could walk to the schools in the community or building parks that help the quality of life well one of alexandria cortezs the resolution within her bill that she proposed was in upgrading out of all existing buildings saying i say some building New Buildings to achieve maximal Energy Efficiency water efficiency safety affordability so weatherproofing them and things like that that of course could provide a lot of security in terms of not only jobs but also Energy Security bill security electric bills yeah i mean thats an idea that those of us that have worked in the industry know about i mean some of the low hanging fruit is essentially taking existing buildings and making them more Energy Efficient making the quality of living in the building better and those jobs cant be outsourced because you have to actually do them in and out very well it just seems that theres no role for government in the current thinking that its all about individual enterprise and survival of the fed and mint and getting rich at all costs and externalize and all risks including environmental and financial risk and to jims point without a common culture at some point this situation is only going to become more factual and more degrading so how do you even bring about this idea of a common culture that would be needed to tackle a huge Infrastructure Project or a huge green project without it. Being spawn as a return or an introduction of socialism and all these other catchphrases that are used to buy the Corporate Media the American Media is i would say 98 percent corporate led media they hate the idea of cost efficiency which you would need to solve these problems that of course would means that their profits would be decimated so how how where does that come from and from what i hearing hear you say it wont happen theres going to be a collapse and then its going to have to come from the rubble do you agree with that from or youre sitting in a small the city in North Carolina is there a way to maneuver toward a Brighter Future or must we just wait for this collapse to happen and rebuild from the rubble my experience in working in local regional and State Government and politics is theres actually 3 types of people not to those that say that the cup is half full those that say that its half empty but the 3rd type is this someone that spills the glass and makes chaos so we may get to the situation jims talking about because there are groups in our country that are pushing chaos and thats why for example we can agree on what being an american is in my town right now we have new confederates united with nazis arguing about confederate flags and monuments we dont really have an idea of what our common culture is that has nothing to do with providing clean water or providing pot you know making sure that your roads are safe in the potholes are filled and that your schools are good these are other external issues from the past in the present are putting pressure on having that common American Culture so there is a place where there is a successful Green New Deal many of them millennial voters want a Green New Deal there is a Green New Deal and its in china china has built 45. 00 Nuclear Power plants over the past decade they have a plan of course china is allowed to plan they have an Energy Development strategy action. 20142020 they are building 15 more Nuclear Power plants at the moment theyve built hundreds and thousands of miles of high speed rail theyre able to do it why are we ever going to be able to do this jim consular i think that the experience in china was a remarkable achievement however it may not represent what it appears to be you know its true that theyve built a great deal of Nuclear Infrastructure but again you have to get back to the question can they continue to maintain and run that stuff without. Petroleum supply and they have. They have been able to build it they have been able to put people to work we say we do it where americans we cant do it we dont have the ability we kept the people that work we cant come up with the deal but they built a giant machine for this giant country for a living in that may not be maintainable in any case i disagree with the notion that we cant do it i think we can do it and i think that we have other issues that are affecting our ability to do it for instance we have a debate on immigration we need immigrants in this country in order to fuel this building Green New Deal what about thats to the Green New Deal in order to have a Green New Deal with building in for say going to be our population all of us republicans vote for more immigrants because we need to create new deal thats like a loser not really we rely on people coming into this country in need 2. 11 people to replace the ones that are here were not actually replacing the people who are here our population is aging but the people who are taking opiates and shooting meth in the midwest because theyre leading purposeless lives of the enemy and on way theyre not the ones who are anxious to bring in you know millions of other new workers to replace them i said earlier that societies are emergent and self organizing reality has mandates of its own that go beyond what are we. And preferences are. And our utopian visions may be you know and were going to be subject to the min dates of reality and well do what were required to do well do what were compelled to do i think that the human project is going to continue i think it will represent a time out from the kind of Technological Progress weve enjoyed but its something we might have to consider ok a Green New Deal this is a flash round will it happen wont happen jim consular were going to get a new deal but it may not be the Green New Deal that people are expecting will get the Green New Deal that we have we deserve rather think we are going to get a Green New Deal because the green youre dealing compass is things beyond just straight infrastructure healthcares in the new deal there are other elements if you go back 20 started in 2006 that we are going to get and that are popular in this country all right well its all comes down to our branding thats how i say you know americas great a war about the war on apathy thats it for this edition of front running back skies are at stake and select by. 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