Transcripts For RT Going Underground 20240713

Into the streets to pay tribute to him does it mean that 7 with 10 millions of people who created these huge sea of crowding the streets of tehran on our core care man and masha they all pay tribute to a terrorist thats bizarre to say that our. The Anti Terrorist fighter who was used to mantle he was a key figure in defeating isis in syria and iraq people in europe should be really very off the sacrifices so they money and hes friends his colleagues in iraq and syria did are for the security and safety of europeans even while in fairness to nader nation Mainstream Media they were a few months back celebrating him for indeed the defectors saving countless lives in britain and the United States i understand theres a picture behind you of gods of money did you ever meet the iranian general yourself yes of course of our we met him. Personally because. He had he used to have. Meetings minister zarif on a regular basis and basically ministers that if was a close friend of generously money and please do not forget that he was an official guest of the Iraqi Government he was a myth injure of peace. In the region and hes contributed to the cause of Regional Peace and security is something that no one can deny tell me what you know about his last hours then because why on earth was he traveling in a civilian jam wings flight from damascus to baghdad that doesnt seem very secure and was he carrying perhaps documents that could have paved the way for peace between saudi arabia and iran i think this is what has been said by Prime Minister blair made the of iraq and they told you he was an official guest of Iraqi Government he was received by Political Department of. Iraq in Baghdad International airport so he didnt need to travel to iraq in a secret the way he used commercial aircraft and simply because he will he had a message from the government of iran through government of iraq to our their partners it was an act of cowardice to aceh thingy such a brilliant person whose role has been very instrumental in defeating value. In syria and iraq there are of course some in the west to believe. Nato lots of different vested interests would not want peace between saudi arabia and iran there was no real cover mation of any law planned by sulaimani coming from riyadh are you going to meet your saudi counterparts maybe discuss it what is certain is that he. Had a message from the government of iraq iran through the government of iraq and that has been confirmed by the Prime Minister of iraq iraq but i think thats not that important the important thing is that he was an official leader an official commander of this law making public of iran and assessing eating. The representative of a sovereign nation inside of a cowardly manner is something beyond imagination and i think by that i thought initially the United States has already surpassed the reclined distinguished from better varies them from civilized rules of engagement he was a 38. 00 it along we of 4 of his iranian colleagues plus and number of our iraqi highly revered commanders so that means that the iraqi trust to americans was betrayed because the American Forces are supposed to be protecting iraq against. Other extremist forces but it is a sad irony that the key anti isis fighters are assassinated. By the same armed forces that are supposed to protect iraqi people against extremism irans retaliate with a shoe in for the assassination of their molly was just to hit a few Ballistic Missiles into some empty buildings that theyre laying there with their ugh why why was that considered a normal response of course this is their narrative as our leaders said this was a fair as the slap in their face and this was of simply our dead measuredly took in self defense against the American Army attack against iran sovereignty. And what does it mean that we are even. Not for sure but i think thats the beginning of a kind of wakeup call for the people and for the governments in the region because everyone is fed up with the im going to can disastrous presence in the region they have been in iran from 2003 they invaded the country and they are saying that they have to spend trillions of dollars just to turn the Us Armed Forces into an armed bandit to assist in 8 or their leaders i think thats really a disgrace and thats why we believe that thats the beginning of the you as. A politician from. The me that is from the best asia. Always said he wanted the soldiers to come home from iraq where do you think drum blink blink 1st zarif of course said that the iranian action was under article 51. 00 but it was after those initial raids on the airbase in iraq that iran warned to the United States and its proxies in the region that the cities of dubai tel aviv and haifa would be destroyed do you believe the trump blinked when iran threatened our i think everyone got his or her message we have said many times and you have proven beyond any doubt that the or law abiding nation the have no bill warriors view or not as the scenes and thats why we inform the government of iraq because at the end of the day it was the iraqi base beach was abused by the United States to target our heroes thats why we had to inform Iraqi Government in advance to make sure that no iraqis are injured in that attack and it was an act of a state terrorism amounting to a crime of aggression and to an act of aggression so we did what we are entitle to do under the International Law well britain was immediately implicated because b. 52 jets were being used in the occupied jagers islands in diego. There was refueling reports from our a. F. Milde in all in britain and in fact Boris Johnson said h. M. S. Montrose and the h. M. S. Defender to iran shores there were reports here of the capability of britain to bomb iran what happens if britain does Something Like it did a while back it hijacked reported oil supplies for the poor of syria which were aided by the iranian government i think everyone is familiar that it was a disgrace for those who initiated that kind of interception of our western anbar im sure everyone is familiar with the outcome but apart from that. I think again we have made it very clear that whoever provided bases or their territory to the us forces for their malevolent at facts for their. Acts of aggression against iran would be held accountable apart from arms Company Shares doing well this is a very dangerous week indeed trump did say that apart from wanting the help of nato no it wasnt clear about that he wants more sanctions on iran will there be any more revenge now from iran for the trump assassination of. This is the beginning of a very. I guess exciting episode. It was ever wakeup call for the people in the region and beyond. This was. An action an act of selfdefense by even an armed forces against us but are they told you i think this is the beginning of a i hope not too long process that the people of our region would be get rid of. The american presence in their. Because they prisons in our region has brought nothing except our. Misery more and hatred and bastard thank you thank you after the break. 48 hours ahead of the announcement of this years Oscar Nominations we examine the breathless u. S. Government propaganda that led to the death of legendary actor jean seberg with the director of a new film about her starring charlies angels star Kristen Stewart all of them all coming up about to a growing underground. Join me every thursday on the alex simon chill and ill be speaking to get us a little the politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Trump is a new york guy and you know he looks at the global picture and he sees the tension in the middle east he sees iran doing a dance with the neighbors and theres like you know what lets just cut to the chase this just i got a guy in iraq and were going to get more money printing right away because i want to make my yacht premed this weekend why fox around this is the new york way of doing things i said it when he 1st got elected its like having a new yorker in the white house and having a new york around the world im a new yorker you know i go die i want to. But if she warned you posted by you didnt i do the dishes at the balls more in those jeans new speech and she me you. Know muffin when you guys e. Q. s. In the news i mean those are the infantry ball. A lot of people see sawing during as if i try to keep each other both hard. Because the atoms to me as if i reach. These out by. Hand. Here in cheek people that cabinet 5 days doing this is. An illusion a. D. A. P. For people who simply knew. What to do. If you have a little more. Welcome back within 48 hours or knowing this years oscar nominees with hundreds of millions of dollars just some of the worlds biggest media conglomerates lets let scrutinized by Corporate Media will be the influence of the u. S. Government in hollywood for military support and influence on the latest blockbusters to cointelpro the relentless surveillance of this Information Campaign run by j. Edgar hoovers f. B. I. Against political activists in hollywood throughout the 20th century a new film about the iconic breathless actor jean seberg who was arguably hounded to her death by the f. B. I. Program has just been released and says our Award Winning actor Christian Stewart going on the guns Deputy Editor charlie cook caught up with the films director and started by asking him about sieberg. Breathless made you a star of the new way why do you think the french come up with all of that here they get me and so sieberg looks at a window in the life of the american actress jane sieberg between around 968 and 971 and so. When she was she was living a life between. The French Left Bank where she was married to the writer mongery and the kind of hollywood career and kind of straddling those those 2 worlds and she comes back to los angeles in the spring of 1968 and she. He she meets. Civil rights activist hakim jamal and she becomes involved in supporting supporting his work and making donations and starts also making donations to the black Panther Party and through that she gets the attention of the f. B. I. Cointelpro Surveillance Program and they start observing whats in her life listening in on a and she gets kind of pulled into what hakeem jamal in the movie because you know what americans want black america the movie tracks both sides of this surveillance operation intimately with jean and the kind of collapse of her life over this period. Of her sense of or reality and then a young f. B. I. Agent. Who is with watching her and its not traditional by nick i know that when she was 14 shoes donating to the end only c. P. What made you choose just kind of 3 years of my life to cover i wasnt really interested in in a kind of you know tell tale all told biography this this period of her. Live on one hand there is just extraordinary injustice that people dont know about of her life this is kind of necessarily a kind of shadowy period when this kind of state machinery was was was turned against us so violently. Also i think theres some think deeply cinematic in this this. Overlapping of the exploring both sides of this violence operation and we wanted to condense it down so it really concentrates in entirely on that yet you mentioned cointelpro earlier just just give us a bit more detail about what that was because i mean i dont know what brought you want to the project but. You said that not many people know about cointelpro was it partly to kind of almost blow the whistle on on this project that shadowy period the nominee few of them i mean certainly for me the shadow period is in terms of gene genes life or just the how extraordinary and violent that overreach was and how much she was caught in the crossfire of this state effort to crush and destroy black activism countries and more we did some. Oppression of black people in america to the same disgusting racism so cointelpro pro was a Counterintelligence Program secret Counterintelligence Program. Under j. Edgar hoovers f. B. I. That was turned against. American activists. The left feminist groups but particularly africanamerican civil Rights Groups and the black Panther Party they published lies about people. Dr Martin Luther king and they infiltrated and ran surveillance operations on groups like the black panthers and spread misinformation and those same tactics applied to jeanne in the film and they destroy her her relationships with the with the with the activist community shes working with. We talked before about kind of how vital the movie feels now like whether with the kind of revelations from someone like Edward Snowden or like the way the film theyre f. B. I. Agents in the film is a kind of Media Outlets to pump somehow doing this is still this kind of thing still goes on today as much they did then or show i mean i think what we see in the movies in like a kind of d. N. A. Form of the culture we live in now else you have an analog surveillance culture where we now live in a kind of mass mass surveillance culture where where in the movie jack needs to kind of break into a house in order to open up a fund in order to put a bug inside we all carry the bugs around complicit in our own surveillance with with oh smart phones and so on. Captain sounds listening to communities and clicks online i think the government the movie shows how. The state uses that surveillance uses that invasion of private space in order to kind of mine private information that can be used as a weapon and to create lies that can be used. Used as weapons and i think when now we live in the kind of. Crossfire of that constant constant barrack barricades of that media war and here we see it in a way by we see both sides of it but we see it by getting very close to the human cost of that in someone like like like jane we see in the movie as well the particulars of inform character as a kind of mechanic of a kind of fake news and a kind of writer of a kind of fake news making stories about jim but instead of fake news being just this appropriate a political term as a as it currently is by the current american regime you actually say no its a weapon its a conservative weapon being big being being used and and i think its kind of just a reminder of if were seeing it in a kind of infancy in the movie of just how how terrifying and powerful that that is one of the many characters laid at the office our job is to cheapen our image in the eyes of the public and in order to do the sort of deal weve made with the veil ability of information accessibility of information that and the drug of that its very easy for us to get just how absolutely transparent on the kind of things that 1520 years ago the kind of private space that we wouldve wanted to protect has just been blown right blown open and what happens as as countries and. European states move further and further to the right what happens is that that information becomes when that information is is weapon weaponized again and in in jeans story is kind of one tip of the iceberg of of that that story within the Civil Rights Movement in america right i think we see we see the terrible human cost of that theres a kind of push and pull in the movie kind of by agent. Played by stephen root where he kind of is pushing for more commercial success and shes pushing back wanting to make political statements do you do you think thats still present and will you have to make a choice between kind of being a very commercially successful act and being a political activist and how its its image and i dont know if its a bar and binary and i dont know if its while he wants to keep her in the it in the in a box in a way and he doesnt want her to do things which he thinks will will will damage her career theres a flip side to that even then in a way where the vince vaughn character makes a joke about her that you know shoot she just wants the Media Attention so even back then theres an awareness that like with jen from the doing the black power salute aware as jackets of the time that theres a kind of performance of activism as well which is not something the associated as much with with. Some actual gravitas or people city has a history of donations to civil Rights Groups shes a sympathizer but shes an interesting creature jim because shes straddling both these worlds and i think she she also wants to be on the billboards and she she also wants to have the she still that kind of drug of stardom is still there period shes doing paint your wagon and shes shes doing their airport movie and so on at the same time as shes the you know done one of the most. Seminal movies of contemporary cinema refuse before and breathless as she struggles these 2 worlds and that to me speaks to her absolute curiosity and there are still actors i think who do that and kristen is one of the sort of thing you did where you said the career and genes create kind of rhyme and that way and i just wonder if that was what attracted you to bring her in italy i mean its a beautiful gift that there are these runs between them and as a director to just have someone who has that innate understanding in their nervous system of actresses playing is very rare. And to be paid for how much your property youve got me and wanted like that again ill shoot you down like a dark. Whered you get better. Woman has a sequence. For an actress to play another actress is always really tricky can end up with a kind of impersonate and im so in other interested in going to the cinema to see the whole making movie that does that so we had to have someone who would have that same kind of a raw life force that gene had who would be other have the genes iconic look the kind of georgian enjoyed haircut on this sort of beguiling beauty and it would be able to kind of wear clothes like jean did as a kind of. Fashion icon but then with so that was all there with kristen but then like jean jean shot to fame in the late 1950 s. When she won a Talent Contest for the director to permit her to play journey of actually one that of 18000 girls and shot from marshalltown i went to kind of huge fame overnight kristen had a similar thing off the panic room and then the twilight films of having an extraordinary kind of public gaze upon her and both of them maybe kind of got kicked around a bit by by a domestic press in the United States and when this is certainly taken seriously in both kind of suffered under that and prove themselves by their work in europe european cinema kristens the only american actress to have won the says are award and and they both have this kind of openness and curiosity and hunger i think to be involved in things that the speak to them deeply kind of main antagonist as it were in the film are like unseen prem injures never shown in the film nor is. And i wondered if that was a conscious choice to have kind of it maybe represent a more just like patriarchal kind of vibe as it were rather than showing them as individuals its interesting that they. Day how their bodies hover over the movie. I merely called them the toads also sit on the movie but both of them are sort of the the monsters of the specters that sit there while one in terms of the that that idea that who who visit the eye he is everywhere and everything is being done for him that the whole machinery is his is his ideology. And if there is a kind of perversity in a sickness in that institution and if it is inherently racist and if it is you know kind of involved in the dirty war its his duty its his dirty war and then in terms of prem injured more on a personal level because the work with him is has finished for about 10 years when we come come to the movie and premarin just sort of stands there as someone who you know he she was a kind of on only she knew who was picked up by him and he treated her very briefly as a director hes very tough methods that she said really kind of. And this is something that we as sort of detectives watching her the course of the movie that we discover that this this kind of damage was there maybe this is what shes trying to break out of as shes seeking new relationships both politically in terms of her love life and in terms of her artistic life that shes trying to break out from underneath that system and its interesting you make that analogy them between primitive who is a left quite quite a sort of you know left wing director in terms of is a isnt politics and quite afford thinking direct but famously brutal in how he treated treated actresses and ruthless as a director to get what he wanted on screen at all costs and then the you know the real. Absolutely kind of right wing ruthless politics of who but yet they both. There and in a way like look over the film thank you so much thank you Deputy Editor jolly good news out a new case in him is now over the show will. But no money until then keep in touch by social media and subscribe to going underground on you tube. Oh my is the news im mighty im not. The one. Of a time about what was it was in a time that was in a sentence of on what about. When mourning the death of my. Seeing the following to him but im before. Him by the. By now embody im not move on. In the beginning. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race is often spearing Dramatic Development only mostly im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. Time after time corporations repeat the same mantra sustainability its very important to excel or transition to sustainable transport sustainability. A more equitable and sustainable world. They claim their production is completely harmless. It. Companies want us to feel good about. Products while the damage is being done far away this is just as deep into any human as i made money. On disk so when. Breaking news around admits that it unintentionally shot down ukraines passenger plane on wednesday mistaking it for a Cruise Missile as president called the incident unforgivable the stuff. Around foreign minister blames washingtons adventurism for tensions that led to the downing of the u. S. Secretary of state his group are aboard the justification for the killing of irans top general. Meantime the u. S. Hales its military in iraq as a force for good in the middle east after baghdad asks us troops to leave the country