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Anyway right lets wish the industry pioneers well in wherever the volution takes them in the new year. In a prank that will produce the activists and Technology Expert says that one social media start regulating come and some views online freedom of speech is in danger. Its more difficult here the moment the facebook accepts that it is a publisher and it has a responsibility to moderate or block on full color tent or any sort of inaccurate content it runs or up against concerns about freedom of speech no where this is more obvious than in political comment faces a real no win situation it was twitter is done it bans political advertising then he gets attacked by both the left and the right for restricting freedom of speech if however as facebook itself has done it allows political advertising then he gets attacked by all sides for failing to crack down on misinformation and attempts to manipulate election and theres also the challenge of when you draw the line between what is political opinion and what is mainly issues or to debate some of the at key events there from 2019 i will continue our review to at the top of the next hour will be back then with news and oversight the headlines. Hello and welcome to crossfire where all things are considered on Peter Lavelle it is a long held tradition on cross talk to take stock of the year that is about to pass we have a look at what moved us what changed us and what gave us concern us 2019 the good the bad and the ugly. Cross talking the year that was im joined by my guest robert bridge hes an r. V. Website writer we also have Dimitri Bobbitt she is a political analyst and editor at internet media project and in nicosia we cross alex crystal for oh he is the director and writer for the duran dot com originally cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate all right let me go 1st to alex in nicosia you know alex so much happened this year it seems like the timelines get shorter and shorter and the pace continues at a greater speed here but if im taking stock here it seems to me the disconnect between the liberal liberal media in the liberal elites with everybody else because we kind of stretches out you know brags that 2016 that was a one off trump 20068 that was a one off and now its go to this year the election thats a one off you know its not this is a trend thats going on here and were all told no no no no this is not a trend these are one offs i think that 2019 was the year hey dont you finally get it go ahead alex. Yeah i agree with that assessment peter i think the main theme of 2019 was really the disconnect between what the media what the elites the globalists the permanent state the deep state whatever you want to call it what they try to tell us what they try to convince us of and what the people are interpreted as true in fact by doing their own research by going to their own alternative news media sources and trying to find the truth on their own time and no 3 stories represent that more i think that breaks it then you Ukraine Russia gate. And the story line i can get i think the biggest story is abstain the absolute is ation of the news here robert you know its a lot happened this year what strikes you because i said in the introduction the good the bad and the ugly when you think the ugly id have to say the pietschmann proceedings that are going on against trump this is just its unbelievable that you know the crimes and really this i think a lot of people are starting to wake up to the fact that the democrats what theyre doing is just going after trump like this to hide their own crimes ok theyre really trying to avoid jail time here are you go back all the way back to 2000 youre talking about the. Obama administration with Hillary Clinton 33000. 00 missing emails i mean its just theyre basically constantly trying to cover up with more and more lies with russia gate with the impeachment theyre trying to cover up their own crimes that they committed and theyre afraid of going to jail and i think the derm report since that could be. Indictments you know we will see that in the beginning of this next year again so much happen im very curious what struck you about oh well im of the good things but you know im russians have death pessimistic. Thinks. Brazenly exchange between russia and. Chremes not the election although i do miss the lenski because hes not independent hes under pressure from his own knoxs in ukraine hes under pressure from the west he basically we saw how the people voted for his slogans and the slogans were of all peace and devolved improving relations with russia and iran suddenly he fell back into the rhetoric of former schenkel so we see that its not a person its an ideology that is driving these terrible war the bad thing i think is what happened to the yellow vests and what happened to their. The riots in hong kong and how differently shamelessly differently in the liberal media reported on that i mean there the yellow vests the they were beaten by police really badly there were People Killed and maimed and it was all fine you know it was not a breach of democracy in hong kong go to hong kong i dont remember a single protest had been killed you know i dont we didnt see them being named we saw them the protesters doing terrible things you know what would happen to you in france if you all killed by. Buildings you know if you if you. Said to people on fire you know who disagree with you while theyre fighting for democracy thats that its that was bad that the coverage was bad and what happened to you know all of us was bad but generally the movement is good we did stay with a point here and the ugly ugly media just will give you good outlooks here alex every one of the things that were huge story that it was the biggest story into it wasnt the biggest story venezuela and why go the random guy that the washington consensus dame should be the president of venezuela but hes still languishing and widow is still there but i guess you dont see that at the end of the at the end of the news cycle at the end of this year theyve all but forgotten and. Had alex. Yeah they have all been forgotten it didnt go the way that the b. T. O. Was hoping it will go to that media react only exactly what you did have if you had a crew and a successful coup in bolivia yet so you know its its really interesting to see how there was so much focus on venezuela but the outcome actually occurred in bolivia and that story didnt get much press it happened the coup took place morales fled to mexico and thats it we forgot about venezuela we forgot about the live mackay and of course and of course democracy try out the again i cant go to the military took over and that is a victory for democracy i cant get my head around that were going to get interesting detail what was the difference between morales and liberal they were all asked russia and china for how and he stayed in and there was no who and the military stayed loyal morris was economically more successful than the door he was more popular among the poor certainly certainly but they didnt save him because the United States would know what i mean i dont know but i dont think that russia china angle plays a factor. Morello says mistake was was the trust the organization of american states ok and it was his big mistake here and there robert one of the things that you know one of the broad brush issues of 2019 is really the middle classes around the world revolting against neal liberalism against the neo liberal model we see it from in the middle east we saw it in the areas they import the yellow vests is a perfect example for a look at the european one but you know you can go all through south america it is very broad here in this is a reaction to that always here a page from demus script here against this neo liberal economic order it is not helping the. Well classes is helping the very very you know its getting a war well yeah its just corporate Corporate Power taking over if you look at the United States the unions you know its not not not necessarily the answer but Union Membership has been down by like 30 percent since the 1980 s. So you have this Movement Towards and i blame it on Corporate Power the politicians just arent able to get get a grip on corporations transnational corporations are completely out of control theyre not paying their taxes look at big the power of big tech that is having a huge huge difference weve had over the last few years and it very few people seem to care because everybodys in their in their pocket ok and thats something that it should be very concerning here. Another issue that it seems to. Cut a lot of peoples attention and quite shockingly is walk capitalism i mean i never would have thought you know and i get i always betray my age on this program i thought these companies wanted us to buy their products not their ideology go ahead alex yeah well capitalism and cancel culture peter i mean i think you know 2019 gave us those 2 terms and you know what youre seeing now in in the world Going Forward is youre actually seeing the neo liberals supporting censorship yet supporting big tech half of the United States is supporting this cancel culture and this will capitalism but on the flip side you have the other half. Which is actively working to move away from this system and you see that in all tech you see that in the rise of alternative news sources and so youre really seeing a split between these 2 factions there is half of the us which is supporting this stuff hollywood wall street new york academia academia is a big part of it then youre seeing another half of the us which is actively working to subvert this and to move away from this in tax break free and thats the keyword to actually break free and a lot of that is person of fide i think of the support of trump once again half the country for half the country against also in practice it half the country for half the country against so these you know these news narratives really really reflect how society is moving a real Clear Division and a clear split you know you know robert its very interesting to me is that you know again when you look at the over the last maybe 2030 years is that now the media is an arbitrary they arbitrate these ideas and theyre always very far left an example 42001000 they always went after these hate crimes but they never condemned for example in the United States ok they they were blindsided by their ideology because anybody that supports trump and i dont always support what the president have to say i give you know on the balls and strikes you know if i like it ill say it if i dont i dont but the media is playing. A overwhelmingly biased role and i would definitely agree and in talking about this well culture this is slightly different from what youre talking about peter but if you look at the the transgender of men this is the something thats being pushed on us through Television Commercials and were not were not allowed to criticize it and the media will jump on you and push people right out of their jobs if you if you dare question it and this is the tragedy here this is i think this is one of the big stories too of its under played a bit but. This is one of the big stories of 21000. 00 is that children in schools are being taught this at the Elementary School level ok and if they come to their mother and there are there but the parents are not informed it is very oh no and if they if they tell their mother a father of a boy tells their mother or father that im a girl ok for example and they take this they take their child to a psychologist the psychologist according to the new regulations by the medical association theyre not allowed to challenge the child a piece of the children have a veto over their family yeah this is an attack on the very idea of the same 1st thing everything im so all right all right im going to jump in here im going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion of the year that was stayed with our city. Or were not. Going to be in the shredder and get rid of it fantastic but here. I am saying theyre great in see the cast that i have been i dont know what i want to. Welcome back to crossfire for all things are considered im Peter Lavelle reminder were discussing the year that was. All right let me go to game during the break you had a an idea that you want to talk about so you got the floor my friend well right after robert talked about children who is the person of the year for the Time Magazine grad. A 16 years old girl can become the person of the simply because she said how dare you but she said that in the right tone she said that to various people but look mr obama called her a member of his team america dined with her so shes case to gauge the right people when she said how dare you all understand who she meant she didnt mean obama merkel all of these people and and i think its a very bad sign i would call it infantilization or politics and media these sit here and who are there are other people of the year for that i mention who are the guardians of the year phil and hell marry your vanu which. Meant they saved humankind they protect our borders of dangerous no they know to no war they did was to protect the deep state and the status quo and alex let me go to you because im glad im glad that were glad it was brought up here because this is just another i mean shes a poster child for an ideology i mean i wonder what her Carbon Footprint is this is its patently obvious this is just a Propaganda Machine here and its using children again which i think is shameless but this is this is part and parcel of the Green New Deal and all this basically is is to complete centralization of government where you have lack of choices and and the takeover of the economy and theyre doing it to children now go ahead alex. Yeah and theyll continue to to use whatever they can to get there their ideology of crossing is really more than 90 ology at this point its become a religion yeah but and thats the bad part is that they will use whatever means they can to indoctrinate us into this religion of neo liberalism the brule ism of corporate capitalism of all these things and theyll use children the good part of 2019 what i think is really good is that weve seen for the 1st time the foundation being sent for people to go to their own news sources to find out their own information we have all tech this is a big story that no one has poured it on but alex but the flip side of that i agree with you but the flip side of it is that and its something you and i have talked about for the entire year is this growing censorship and thats something that a lot of us feel here and i think that and i think theres every reason to believe that it will continue particularly in the u. S. With 2020 coming up here and you want to jump in yeah i think that its complete to right when he used the term religion you know in San Francisco they have these huge poster or. Shes become and im old and saint and what are the slogan sort of the boys and girls who joined that strike you know that she called her stall Global Warming to laurel well thats a child defected to you and you know you just have to ask something from there else and it will be delivered to you tomorrow you just have to ask it to really aggressively and this is the way theyre outre liberal ideology works it shows you will some terrible images it shows youre some positive images and then they ask you aggressively are you against gratitude and work how can you have it be against children and then they show you a victim for example are the discontent that whole student and they say. Against this person how can you be against the rebate is you bring up such a really good point robert because you know. You. Can use children as props to propagate an ideology or a religion or a cult here but all the long the Mainstream Media ignores largely ignores the illegal war in yemen bordering on genocide and the inability of the chief executive of the United States from not being able to get 2000 troops out of syria. Not able to and the almost 20 year war in afghanistan but everyones talking about how great it is childhood was stolen from her from what i understand she had a pretty Good Childhood anyway you see my point here is that you it you have this bipartisan backing of these illegal wars the trump actually ran against and it shows how powerless he is all now and thats when they take this other initiative and push it in the forefront in the talk about these illegal wars and you know its just its just complete distraction using children using raw emotions theres no theres no basis in science about what shes saying she gets up in front of the United Nations and she screams and she rails and all the adults is a little fish is not. Just yet everybody so maybe really but also trying to look after backed up by capitalism maybe but well see in the near future is 18 year olds running for president of countries and prime ministers until this is the point i mean they seem to be on your criticisms example you know its approaching who told us about the end of history Francis Fukuyama what is he doing now hes teaching in ukraine teaching of their members of your father mentor and why is he doing that vice you sure that have success because hes just 41 and the people in the parliament who represent his party most of them are under 35 so its all a bit you know about although he has a chance to make a fool out of himself again let me go back to you and make us the my person of the year interesting only enough. Gabbert because shes got guts ok and i probably wouldnt agree with her on most of her social issues ok but she stuck to her guns being a veteran of these illegal wars and shes she says what is true and she has and shes pushed back you have the clinton machine dumped on her and she very effectively pushed back she pushed out of the race about what harris and to a large extent i mean there is a person of gravity toss and shes dumped on by the media go ahead alex. Yeah remember kemal harris was the chosen one it was going to be the next obama told c gabbert took her out with one shot and the fact that she pushed back against the clinton machine was amazing i mean that one everybody over to toss it gabbert and if i can just go back to the previous topic peter using children and using whatever means necessary yet children are good yeah we have to believe children until you get to the epstein case in which case the media and all the neo liberals in the globalist dont want to talk about it but i think we have just in case perfectly so i mean this is going on you have to believe that children isnt that an echo of the me too movement dont you think its the same stratagem that is being used here victims yeah yeah everywhere. Victims but also i would say there. Are the terrible story of the year is that the Mainstream Media has been able to continue pushing this story evolved special friendship between trump and you know. I am quote and. Im quoting fred kaplan here trump who isnt or pretend nothing like that happened you know look at that image just look at their sonnets tax and look at trumps actions you know he continues youre testimony again thank you yeah but it doesnt work any other that the media continues pushing that story even if you dont want it you know and people are were all victims of the media in this situation because we dont want to consume these stories but they are pushed on us you know you know robert im really glad the move brought that up because they cant they invested too much into these conspiracy theories i mean i mean they look at us as conspiracy theories we look at facts and we throw it right back at them but they dont even want to acknowledge facts i mean this whole ukraine gate for example if theres any ukraine gate its the biden family ok not some kind of. A transcript between 2 president s that was made public but you see how the media manipulates it in turns it upside down i mean these are true believers and i dont think they they believe that theyre lying that their problem is they cant move away from this ideological grip that surrounds them you know and thats how i think that were going to have problems changing the system in the future i mean im on twitter im on facebook im on you tube and these people who im following and alex has been talking about you know the media and how we have alternative news now but i really im afraid what the future holds and terms of what youre talking about peter about censorship because its just every day people im following on twitter to get different views there if theyre following that by the wayside you tube channels are getting axed facebook theyre being banned so thats thats very disturbing and even i believe im not sure if its true but if you even heard that george soros for example has bragged that next year theres not going to be any any real opposition to donald trump you wont be able to find any opposition on social media theyre just going to get rid of all the top the top voices and i see that coming i see it physically whenever im on social media ok very interesting point robert let me go back to alex and nicosia you know i hate to be pessimistic ending this program here but what robert is basically described as we have been hearing for a while now particularly in this year thats about to end is a growing cultural civil war where you have 2 major blocks that are not willing to listen to each other as a matter of fact dont respect each other and this is a very dangerous path that were going on because i see very little reconciliation some of fact just the opposite i see a lot of digging in of heels so youve already alluded to this in this program go ahead alex. Yeah i mean you know what were seeing right now peters going to probably get worse going into 2020 because we have the Election Year what were seeing is were seeing the elites and the Media Establishment pretty much saying either buy into our narrative or youre going to be canceled you know lets remember member when cuomo was on c. N. N. And he was talking about weiqi leaks and the emails and he says no no youre not allowed to not allowed it well interpret it for a you will exactly well interpret it and then you have epstein now in there saying no no no he really did he really did kill himself you have to believe it and then you have quid pro quo no bided biden didnt do anything thats been debunked but trumbo trump commit all kinds of crimes even though we have a transcript of the transcript spends nothing about quid pro quo and then you have assad assad gassed his people gassed his people what do you have the o. P. C. W example effector saying no that really didnt happen and then of course brags that you have to leave if the u. K. Leaves the e. U. Peter its going to implode theres going to be disaster we cant leave the e. U. We have to have another vote so i mean either by the narrative or youre going to be canceled your conspiracy theorist whatever they want to label you i think its going to accelerate into 302030 seconds well unfortunately i dont see anything good coming in the next few months media wise you know because i think the records have been broken and sad and broken v. C. R. I think the collapse of new investigation the ukraine gate and the lies in America Everything well its kind of the fact of where are we eating pizza. Or is he not impeached here and i mean this is this is something thats amazing here but this is again muddying the water waters and its really creating a lot of tension here how the country once you see a man go the other one wants to get that down to the peoples business and were stuck until next year thats all the time we have many thanks to my guests here in moscow and in nicosia and thanks to. Viewers for watching this here r. T. C. The next time remember crosstalk rules. What holds us institutions little. They put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Or somehow want to be. Considered right to be cross thats what the flag 3 of them all cant be good. Im interested always in the waters of god. Makes it. Seem wrong what i. Just dont all. Get to say proud just to educate and engagement equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. For her the 1st obama took i live it up with. Something to. 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