Its coming from air quote anchors who are supposed to be objective be seeking truth supposed be asking questions and listening and challenging when necessary not to go into interviews where they have a pre disposed opinion of what they believe is right or wrong in terms of that narrative and most times in the us that narrative is an anti trump narrative therefore anybody who challenges that and we saw that with chuck todd last weekend challenging senator ron johnson a republican who simply tried to make some points and then todd went after him personally said he was pushing quote fox news conspiracy theories and was just saying things to appease President Trump who may be watching tim russert is turning over in his grave watching interviews like that because russert went after both sides fairly equally and without the sanctimony that we see from the meet the press moderator thats currently running that show and i couldnt have said it better tom let me go to you but the cynic in me and probably the cynic can all of us is that that strategy is a moneymaker there speaking to the converted already there just. What theyre doing is theyre just giving back to the viewer what they want to hear it has nothing to do with news its basically virtues signaling i saw exactly the interview that joe was talking about there was no substance there it was just 2 d. Legitimize you thats the only message you got from that anchor go ahead. If you will to a certain extent what we have now is kind of Click Bait Media our country is politically divided here in the us and so different Media Outlets are really appealing to different segments of society we see that in us weve seen a lot with and this and b. C. And especially as well c. N. N. They are appealing to a base that they keep repeating what in some ways in some instances really. Ganda we saw the most recently in the way c. N. N. And n. B. C. Manipulated transcript of President Trump talking to the president of ukraine and they spliced it and they had to do work with it because they actually put it on screen they made it look like President Trump was asking for a favor for him to investigate the president to investigate former Vice President joe biden that wasnt the favor of the favor was to look into the origins of the russia collusion versus the geisha so its really propaganda but sadly it really works is just appeals to that base and embassies ratings have gone up because of this propaganda in the air of trump yeah i cant think of a better person that would like to know the origins of that hoax i mean really the man in the oval office has a right to know i think i think you know thats my personal opinion considering what weve been through lets go to paris now. Has he has news media been weaponized now because i have to admit i dont know the media sphere it so well in france is like i would do the u. K. Or the United States but it seems to me that Mainstream Media is being weaponized for political purposes its purpose is no longer to inform the purposes is to form opinions go ahead in paris. The purpose is to create ammunition for a battlefield and the battlefield is the social media its not the media anymore the meter do not really have any influence to be honest they provide ammunition to people who try and broadcast it to the media is saying and use it as a minister against other people who themselves broadcasts other kind of media so depending on where you live you have poor all of the media in france we dont really have any kind of priority of media because were not through lets say we dont have the 1st amendment be americans. So we dont have the something that would be the equivalent of fox news in france for example but that might come sooner or later and right now its a topic of discussion in france but my point is media do not have any influence at all they lost all their influence from the battlefield that is happening them on facebook mostly facebook and twitter and all those media just provided in their not weaponized the battlefield is not the media sphere its the social media ok its very interesting here you know but cho we have a whole string of former intelligence officials being employed particularly but not only but particularly at c. N. N. And m s n b c so i mean im just going to kind of theorize i think im allowed to do that to my program so they hire these guys like brad in our clapper mccabe and so they they have the they still get the top secret briefings you know they have clearance so they get information they tell their employer their employer then says hey joe we just heard from a source which is the source is the contributor and the contributor is on the senate reaffirming confirming what they learned from their own briefing i mean i find that insidious ok that is not in the public good go ahead joe peter we hear a lot about state run media right and well hear from the c. N. N. Center world accusing say fox of that for instance that state run media i see state run media as c. N. N. For instance or m s n b c hiring all these Senior Intelligence officials c. N. N. Has more than 12 former Senior Intelligence officials on their staff most of all not sympathetic towards the president and we see that obviously with john brennan former head of the cia and m s n b c we see it with clapper at c. N. N. C. N. N. Goes out and hires Andrew Mccabe if you have indicted who was fired for a lot. Lying under oath 3 times about leaking to the press its a quid pro quo what do you think mccabe was leaking to im going to get c. N. N. Because they hired him as a big you giving us everson for mention that turned out to be false anyway i wonder would make cable look like when hes on set in an orange jumpsuit maybe im getting ahead of my skis here ok tom i mean its cant continue with this here no no no go arrest him while hes on so that would i wish him all these odds that i would be the 1st time and if i if i got wind of the 1st time id watch the end live for years ok send me a tweet ok if you hear anything ok let me go to tom here i mean state t. V. This is what joe said but tom in many ways in the same vein that were talking about its kind of like deep state t. V. To me because what they what they want to do is they want to form the narrative and you know outlets like c. N. N. And m. S. N. B. C. Are more than happy to do their work for them theyve been doing it a long time anyway now theyre just more open about it go ahead tom. Well essentially its agenda driven media the agenda is to do everything in anything to damage President Trump and theyll hire anyone actually to do that when you take a step back though its not all that surprising because in the United States the media is dominated by democrats a vast majority of reporters and people in the media democrats they are based in deep blue sea states deep blue cities and they really just marinating in this liberalism and it comes out every day when they go to work theyre not thinking about how to cover the news theyre coming to work with an agenda and you just have to remember that c. N. N. They were they hired sarah floras who was the department of justice Spokes Person and people in c. N. N. Rebelled about that yeah so she no longer has the original post as Political Editor i mean this is really inbreeding its ideological inbreeding and its really a problem because its creating division in the United States lets go back there are so pretty you said that france doesnt have the a version of fox news and but you said there is discussion about it what would it take for that to happen or what more to take for it never to happen go ahead in paris. Well we dont have anything like the 1st amendment and thats a huge difference between friends democracy and the american democracy theres lots of thing youre not allowed to say in france calling to the law this is a problem for many people who express themselves for example the people and the law through a prism self in france it might sound weird to an american even to non america to an american that is not racist because it is totally in a position to the 1st amendment but this is how we work here in france so the diversity in terms of media is very shallow compared to. What you can find in the United States or even what you can find in russia thats the way we work here thats the way were used to having those media but keep in mind that roughly one. No more than 25 percent of the french population have any kind of interest ok in your case but then when people do not believe me where is the debate then on the airwaves like the way you describe it it sounds like its very difficult to have a debate if. There is nearly no debate from time to time there is some glitch in the metrics to so to say that enables some side of the bait of course since where you just had some true if the tremendous attack in the very center of our secret service its a topic for debate but most of the time there is no debate because most expression that could spark all the debate another law to spend ourselves could change but its going to take some really huge hue out there no one here that. Theyre willing to do no wonder the yellow vests came about they have a whole lot to say but they dont get it and theyre not heard very much on the airwaves what a pity for france ok all right gentlemen im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on the media state with ard. What politicians do usually that. They put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president and 3. More somehow want to be rich. But youd like to be close to see like them before 3 in the morning cant be good that im interested always in the waters of the hottest. Place should. 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Crude puppy mills are supported by dog shows and pet stores most of the puppies are coming from these large Scale Factory farming kind of operations are being sold again at stores even joined a Group Businesses are involved like agoa mom center theres been a shocking amount of organized opposition to increase the standards of care for dogs bred in commercial rating for so many most of that opposition is coming from huge Agricultural Industries that have nothing to do with jobs dont buy dog. Little. So its just so. And very well now can see what an awesome. Welcome back to cross talk were all things are considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing the media. Ok lets go back to joe in new jersey im going to play the devils advocate here just to be fair here i dont know how to describe donald trump is a media phenomenon i mean its a its a force of nature i think no one will deny that irrespective how you feel about him but how how is he treated the public sphere the media sphere is is he respectful that he play the role he does because you know thats what so much argued about in the airwaves is his form his delivery and i just said to a friend of mine an hour ago the trump speaks trump speak and his followers understand trump speak liberals cant ok and thats one of the great divide in the poll and the american political environment now because one part the liberals are tone deaf to what most at least half of the country is willing to listen to go ahead joe. Yeah i find it funny if misspells a word for instance on twitter then youll have i brought up the word sanctimony during your last break ill bring it up again youll have some blue checkers that those are people who are verified on twitter saying oh my goodness he cant even spell x. And people just look at that and say yeah i misspell things all the time you do hes not homogenous hes not packaged like i do so 2016 opponent Hillary Clinton everything was a modernized and packaged in focus group perfectly and thats what the appeal comes from that is not your typical politician but i also hear that trump and ive heard this for 3 years is a threat to the 1st amendment ive never seen more books written about one president then this one and if you dont like that i have to point out these papers and office in office yes right its amazing and we see we see a lot of lament peter around the White House Press briefing going away which became a joke it was a complete circus it was grandstanding you might as well just have jim acosta sponsored by ira spring to give him a soapbox to stand on because thats all it was about a cost of making a name for himself if im making a name for herself and there is no substance to what the president has done and has done this easily but im talking about 4050 times more than any other president is speak to the press directly in gaggles when hes on his way to marine one the helicopter on the white house lawn and he speaks directly to reporters more than any president by far that weve seen in history so i think things are going fine when particularly the word is coming directly from the horses mouth instead of a press secretary and to a hostile press were no one is interested in actually getting to the truth anyway its very interesting you know tom i think one of the problems that the left Mainstream Media has is that number one they feel that they have lost control of narratives which they believe that they have some kind of god given rights to possess its always been mystified why they think they have the right and they see that like through twitter. Just breaks right through he goes straight to his supporters here let the left to the left liberal media cant stand not being control of narratives and the more they trash as president the more they lose control i mean watch that im watching m. S. M. B. C. And c. N. N. They look at sterile coal i mean i wonder if they need help because they they they cant even string sentences together anymore i mean the level of english has crashed ok because there are so enraged i dont even understand what their rage is about their so incoherent go ahead tom. No thats a great point peter certainly the bridge because President Trump i get to your point by using twitter he goes right to his people goes right communicates to them and goes right around the media what i call a lot of times the antitrust media and the other thing president trunk does he does these tremendous rallies where he goes into a local area he delivers his message its a life they cant manipulate that and then the local media is really forced to cover whats happening so its a direct way to really communicate with his base and earlier i think you said that you know the liberal media they dont know how to react is that its almost they have 2 voices there its 2 languages they cant understand his language and they really are frustrated about the way he communicates and the way he can crisply deliver a message to his followers its go back to paris here and im fascinated what youve said to us on this program i mean because of what i would call an incorrect me if im wrong a very limited public sphere of debate in france but i mean doesnt something a situation like that encourage the development of conspiracy theories i mean because you know in america as youve heard all through this program here if you if you if you disagree with the left youre just automatically default a conspiracy theorist ok which is absolutely nonsense but if you have a limited public sphere dont people end up believing that theyre not being told the truth or what theyre being told is a manipulation i mean i find this really interesting what youve told us here. Its exactly the same thing if you dont agree with the state in france if youre a conspiracy theorist the most the big difference is that we probably have 75 percent of the population labeled as conspiracy theorist for example d a few weeks ago there was a huge industrial accident in france the whole. City get smirched by pollution and the state was keeping it was telling people theres nothing to be afraid people were living in a nightmare because the pollution was huge over whole state a well of course states are smaller in france than the united but still it was a disaster and the state kept saying theres no problem theres no problem until people realize that dozens of hundreds of tons of toxic products were burned and that was a major problem for their health so not only nobody believes the state but during the 1st 2 days the major news channel kept saying that if you dont believe what the state is saying youre a conspiracy theorist. Its i guess the same thing everywhere until the local gets into power and the liberal media gets into the opposition but were not here yet in france ok joe it is switching gears slightly and one other thing you know this term dog whistle you know trumps a dog whistle for racists but if you watch media enough and i know you do and i admire your work very much of the hill and your contributions on fox never miss them but it but its like m. S. N. B. C. And c. N. N. They are dog whistles their entire organizations are dog whistles to make people viscerally react to whatever they think is important at the moment the covington kids all my goodness i mean that was the biggest story of all time until 00 it went away because it was fake we have we see this over and over and over again they blow their whistle joe. And the reason why they could blow that whistles because peter there is no accountability whatever these again air quotes mistakes are made and i dont want to keep using up the stakes because that seems innocent. Maybe there is some agenda. As tom has been saying maybe theres some agenda behind this or they believe what they want to believe they fall in love with the narrative the clicks are going to come and then if they get it wrong tell me the last time you saw somebody get suspended or fired over a major journalistic mistake that hurts the integrity of that News Organization now the problem is that the integrity doesnt really mean anything anybody any more because of the Business Aspect that weve been talking about but in terms of dog whistle there was one point in july where i just pulled up the story c. N. N. And m s n b c said the word racist more than 1100. 00 times in the span of 4 days that is almost physically impossible to do yet they did it over and over again because they were talking about President Trump and what he had said about the squad so if you Say Something over and over again like the boy who cried wolf in this case the media that cried racist it tends to lose its impact after the 784th time so i think thats why weve talked about how media doesnt have an impact it doesnt have as much as it used to because its become predictable its become so biased that half the country here in the u. S. Says im not listening and im not im not you know its the best benedict and im not listening to you guys anymore thats what it is it really is it. One of the things that. Im calling this Program Media conspiracies and this is exactly what we go from one conspiracy to the next and when one loses all of its energy its on its last legs another one pops right up and you know it pops up just as fast as the epstein story goes away its amazing one thing id like to know and i want our viewers to write to me how is it possible every single liberal out. N. P. R. And its n. B. C. C. N. N. How do you how is it they all the commentators say exactly the same thing through during one news cycle its amazing existential threat. They do it who sends out that email i really want to understand how they do it because i wish conservatives would do it more often really go ahead tom. Its almost like theres a list serve with a message point comes out from on high somewhere in my suspicion be the conspiracy guy its somewhere in the Democratic Party where they all go in lockstep but youre right one from russia collusion to to racism to recession now now or into ukraine it never stops but again theyre just speaking to themselves and to joes point in respect to accountability there have been some people who have been fired at c. N. N. And a. B. C. News but i think the most important aspect is the drop in credibility with polling i mean Rasmussen Reports had a poll where only 33 percent of voters think the New York Times gets it accurate most of the time most students almost 70 percent think theyre wrong most of the time i look at about that nowhere in life unless if youre a baseball player and you fail 70 percent of the time to be considered good. Lets go back to paris i mean just to jump in go ahead go ahead joe thats the whole point of the program go ahead go ahead and i was about to say tom brought up c. N. N. Id be a. B. C. Brian ross from a. B. C. And then 3 reporters from c. N. N. Or got a story on anthony scary movie wrong i asked the question before when was the last time you saw that both of those happened in 2017 we havent seen any accountability sense but those were going to examples of tom but you know but joe but joe. Shouldnt the public be serve the much better than this because it seems to me as tom was pointing out the trust in the media is just plummeting and now what is happening and for me im very happy because alternative media. That is smart is keep is picking up in pace and i think thats one of the the derivative effects that i see that tom is agreeing with me here but you know when you lose your credibility like that its almost impossible to get it back and i think that they wont get that credibility back when somebody trump is out of office their Business Model will collapse mark my words gentlemen thats all the time we have many thanks to my guests in new jersey greenwich and in paris and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r. T. C. The next time and remember. To. Just look. At the connection to the last campaign ask for the last 70 and seeing and on the day of thats. Going to shift. In the. Coming. Future mom. You know im going to cry so said im not going to much to the mama just back yet. Do you really get the. Rumors of realty known so somebody needs. He was the digits of. The official money so smooth over. That. 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