Coming up on our international while in the u. K. And ireland it is and again stay with us. Hello and welcome across. The recent attack on saudi Energy Installations as red faced many in washington and the kingdom we will tell you why also uncle joes troubles in ukraine a story beginning to be revealed for a very long time. Talking some real news im joined by my guests here in moscow going to. And he is a professor at the Higher School of economics as well as author of decay of western civilization and resurgence of russia we also have alex cross of forro is the director and writer for the duran dot com and were joined by Dmitri Bobbitt she is a political analyst and editor at innocent me internet media project right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate glenn let me go to you 1st here saudi arabia is the 3rd largest spender and military hardware in the world after the United States and china. And were told at least who these claim that they attacked those installations last weekend. Theres a lot of red faces in washington and riyadh right now i mean do they have do they actually use military hardware or is it the wrong kind or is it just expenditures no one is really explain this but of course we know one thing its a rants. You know all the big joke typically has been the saudi arabia has this huge wonderful military but nobody knows how to use it. However so the problem goes a bit deeper than that i think because it also shows you cant truly measure military strength in terms of the amount of money you spend on arms now for certainly you should get some modicum of defense with that kind of expenditures yes of course but when you for example compare how how would a color military conflict look here between saudi arabia and iran often people fail to take account of very simple or cheap drawn can be used to attack a military installation and this. Energy solution and and this is really the vulnerable the weak spots that they have. That they have presented to them so theres not much they can really do about it so they could make peace with the with the who these in yemen one think they could do to show us that iran with the various simple weaponry can create some pain for the who is easy to be careful i dont know well i would guess that the drones themselves the construction of them probably some of the Strategic Directions probably have come. With some input from iran. I think is reason to lose even if it is reasonable until they get over it alex it seems to me its not important who orchestrated this because i dont think thats the point i think the point is that it could be orchestrated and its a demonstration of what can come all right you have saudi arabia spending vast amounts of money on quote unquote defense that apparently doesnt work or they dont know how it works in the United States is any more forces there theyre learning the wrong lesson whoever orchestrated this said stop the war because we can do this again it will be more intense higher magnitude right sort of trump is going to sanction our central bank in iran hes going to sanction the Sovereign Wealth Fund as well hes sending. Troops to saudi arabia in order to prevent this from happening again and you know do you want to sending a few ships right more troops i was not going to stop this when we were even told there are some people saying that the attack its no more reaching needed and in saudi arabia exactly exactly i think youre spot on peter because it doesnt really even though is a lot of people theorizing who did this was it iran was it the who these was it israel was it saudi arabia was it the cia everyones you know has their theory as to who did this because you know a lot of people saying this was a false flag and thats what worries me its not who did this what worries me is that ok youre sending a message to stop the war great the war needs to be stopped youre sending a message that Saudi Arabian n. B. S. Is vulnerable hes the weak link in the in the u. S. Iran is real kind of structure in that hes only has to be portrayed as been shown running steroids right and right before the iraq oh floatation as well so youre sending a message there and youre sending you know a message to trump in other words youre saying you dont really want to go to war here in the middle east and i get that as well but what worries me peter is that we had before this we had the all tanker incident a couple of them d now we have this and you can only push trump so far because i really think trump does not want to go to war i think its very clear now but hes surrounded by a lot of neo cons hes surrounded by a lot of war hawks left and right and maximum pressure has failed i worry about real quick i worry about that because sooner or later one more incident whoever does it whoever does it hes going to have to take action and that worries me going to the brink real quick go ahead real quick a vietnamese is going to say i also believe the trump definitely wants to go into the new election as the president who didnt actually start a war which will be the 1st time and im going to go toward. The bar exam because im not going to problem is this maximum pressure strategy is put all the conditions in place for because what is done with iran now has put in the situation where there is all or nothing so wrong house and everything to lose from just sitting still and doing. Thing and sort of see its a coming choke to death or it can make a big gamble and effectively shoulder saw this american concept help you become supportive and also telling the rest of the world if you try to crush us we have ways to get back at you so having this powerful deterrent its there they can gain a lot from doing this high risk investor problem put him in a position where iran kind of has to gauge and high risk in order to save itself well you know they could always buy a russian isp or hundreds but you know. My question to you is is that if. We can speculate who might have helped who they think we are speaking the obvious you however i think with another message going with my line of thinking is that other. Into the region could have access to the same technology so im talking about as below in lebanon this is sending a message not only to the saudis that theyre vulnerable not a message to the us that hes vulnerable but the entire stability of the middle east is at stake right now and i think this is the message they need to start ratcheting down you could very easily be ratcheted up again well i think theyre basically when we have person to blame you know we should remember who started the whole thing you know the whole start things started in 2015 when star saudi arabia started being yemen after a. Coup there you know with total support from the United States from president obama from there somewhere i wanted to do so because i want to because in her memoir she white watches or cell phone now now were kind of the International Press basically be mourning their fate of the civilian population of yemen which is a right you know but the International Press does not remind us that our barbara and the ultra liberal are you always just in the United States and in that you were directly complicit in starting that war part of the blame is on them and even if. He is or someone some. Are the shia groups in the middle east even if it was they walk. Alone right to say that its a deterrent you know its amazing for the 1st time in their European Press i see some sympathy for these action against saudi arabia for example often blithered often bothered which is a swedish newspaper writes that easy is it only me who is happy about what had meant maybe it will send a message that we need to protect the environment and theyre basically if you can cause a lot of it in a matter of minutes you know then maybe we should look for a replacement for oh ok its a very twisted very swedish you know ecological argument against the war i think there was still primarily in order to prevent people from being killed and the environment but its for the 1st time in many years that europe is kind of opposed to all these aggressions its obviously a boss to the aggression of saudi arabia against yemen and it is becoming more and more sympathetic with the shiite minority in terms of what it does is it is increasing the chasm between europe and the United States because the europeans have made it very clear that theyre not willing followers they will be if their knowledge to push to blackmail they will continue to support the u. S. But its showing their cows im glad about the europeans also recognize that this is directly linked to the iran nuclear deal. And because the american sunni latrobe withdrew from it and even now the americans are threatening to put sanctions on the europeans a 2nd there are sanctions if they continue if they dont also withdraw from the deal so so so obviously this is a big split with this conflict becoming more more moving towards war iran needs to show that it it also has a deterrent then i dont see the europeans thinking this is a great time to suddenly switch sides and get bored with American Idol continues a trend i would say yeah yes you know. What i think is very interesting is that the saudis are being the anti in there saying the ball is in your court right now and then we all know that trump doesnt want to get into a new war but hes painted himself into a very terrible horner and thats what makes the stakes so much higher because you could have a 3rd party that is interested in a conflict in the could we could see a potential false flag this is very very dangerous and putting the mess the wrong message has been received sending more hardware there more troops there more ships that shows that they havent learned that this is a game of chicken that has reached its been the ultimate stage you know just not believe had an article she said that you know the United States and trump is losing the narrative on iran and i think shes exactly right and i think dimitris right too in that aspect that trump did inherit the yemen war but he made a terrible strategic mistake by pulling out of that j. C. P. O. Way and then he painted himself in that corner that youre talking about but the narrative is being lost because because people now are actually seeing saudi arabia as the aggressor whether its yemen or whether its with whats going on in iran and were talking about before the show peter we actually are told see cowbird go on fox news the other day neil cavuto and she actually stated and im paraphrasing that saudi arabia is the bigger enemy not iran dont go to war with iraq just see how he choked oh yeah she buried him because thats the name of the pushing demon before we go to break very quickly you know the war in yemen i think it was the 1st war that obama wanted to conduct with old the boots on the ground by someone elses hands you know that was his new strategy im not saying american troops and that the soldiers do it and it was a complete disaster i think you know the french. That if this operation is called resolute force its resident force against yemen yes it killed tens of thousands he displaced mediums it was supposed to be a single ended little war once there results but it was supposed to be a splendidly. Look a. B. B. s would come out on top showing his credentials and all that everything this man touches in the region goes south absolutely last word was so to say this is a difficult situation for both sides because. Iran has been put in the place now where it really has no hour to spend very precious put in a corner but the americans are kind of put themselves in a corner as well and thats i think thats where the danger comes because. To point out that some point now trump will have to attack iran otherwise he will be out of options and the wrong thats the same problem they dont have any other options than to and is why we have you on the program frequently with real fears here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on some real news state with our. Next geysers financial survival they say money to develop. Closer to d. C. This is a central plank so for dying at the moment kind of problem right now so he stopped. But if he warned you can i do. To shoot at the bottom or the g. s nudist beach and you see me we need to blue truth. About that come on when you guys e. Q. s will be. In the news i mean that that in fact involved. A lot of you will see sawing during fuzzy fights about 2 kids each other both sides. But as he admits to me as if i change. It. By. Ear. I dont. Even listen. To him. Welcome back across now were all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing some real news. I just limit switch gears here. In ukraine alex finally finally people are talking about it but the wrong story ok give us the background yeah 3 years 3 years in the making of a story for 45 years actually during the my dad and during the war nice ukraine this story has been a rout and Biden Hunter Biden to be more specific along with devon archer who is quick coincidentally the roommate of john kerrys son in law Christopher Heinz fame building right the heinz dynasty those 2 along with another ukrainian oligarch were part of a company where directors of a Company Called to respond this company is an energy all the gas Company Operating in ukraine headquartered out of cyprus for various tax reasons now during the war there were a lot of reports that hunter biden and actually were pushing for the war and ukraine in order to clear a lot of the territory in order to do what peter in order to frack rock get to the energy in the east and now here we are 3 years later with a whistle blower out of the intelligence apparatus for some strange reason tries to pin all of this. Trop so because so bidens corruption is trump right thing because exactly drums desire to investigate it is who investigated because but it had the church during a conference we also took about how we got victor show one of the prosecutors to really pick and prosecute a degenerate prosecutor general of your fire because he wanted to investigate the corruption of hunter biter and the Binoche Archer and one more thing peter the kerry family Christopher Hines to all want the bidens and hunter biden a barista about 2 to 3 weeks ago so. We have ukraine gate hold around the globe because the media is dominated by the people who are interested in concealing bidens corruption and theyre already turning of the tables saying forget about by this corrupt ok. In i think it was in their Foreign Policy or in some other things and she ruled that yes contra by them acted inappropriately and joe biden acted inappropriately they should have known that if you protect you know your song who is doing business in the country that you supervised from the United States its going to come back to you well of course but you know that privately is the trump is calling. Ukrainian president zelinsky and asks him to investigate it and you know this is the 1st time that ive heard truth from mr trump since his Electoral Campaign in 2016 just very simply explained what has been telling us about joe biden this is trumpeted in the media he calls the Ukrainian Government and says dont you dare prosecute if you dont fire this prosecutor. If you dont fire this prosecutor were not going to give you 2000000000. 00 in loan guarantees or whatever he was supposed to give can you imagine i did that and of calderon mr trump but the problem is that. This is the truth for all 8 ringback doozie this is how it would work but the interesting thing here glenn is that for some reason we can speculate why this is really come up in the news you know obviously its an entire term gambit theres nothing new about that but as our gentleman friends here pointed out this is part of the Public Record and then whats being talked about publicly is if its news its not news its not news that they were officials from the d. N. C. Visited ukraine during the 2016 election looking for dirt on paul metaphor and they loaned it and they found it and they used it against him and he went to jail for what 4 years for something years for something that had nothing to do with russia only with ukraine but only with ukraine i mean the interesting thing is that this is a very selective view of looking backwards and what is happening we still dont talk about the coup in 2014 they dont want to talk about bidens role that he was obamas point man here and how his family benefited from it profited from it yeah now its. Well theyre going to have wrote a lot about this case in book come out in 2016 so no its not its not its hard to look at this i would say for the public is yes it is but theres also because. There hasnt been much interest in the media to kind of dig into this issue and especially after trying to get elected as well theyre very much been in the u. S. Obviously taken a very anti trumper session so i think the rhythm only reason why this really came out because it could be argued that this was transcription by trump because you know he dared to call the president of ukraine selinski. Pressure him in order to start an investigation however and this is the scandal however again the reason this will backfire most likely is because by by bringing up this issue their fact of legal review. The trump is merely asking to restart and in this the geisha which joe biden killed into his son there is no evidence that were aware of thats been reported there was a quid pro quo so thats thats the thing here again western media there is they do the sins of omission it was once you said to me earlier in the day is this is this a tactic to get rid of by you know we were discussing this because this is it was so obvious this was going to backfire on biden it was obvious and the democrats less they wanted this out now i can only think of 2 reasons why you have this leak and you know the whistleblower didnt even have this as direct knowledge from what we understand this came from another person to another person to that whistleblower and now the only reason to put this out into the Public Domain is to either do biden because its obvious this is going to come back and get. Why else would you do it to do real bad or to get ahead of the story now i dont think you could control it and i think that what is out of the question and he quoted trump but he was quoting the video you can get away with race from it this was this being done to the real biden and get to a war in. Candidacy i mean the real scandal you dont need any whistle blowers foreseen the read of scandal here what is the most sure can about this prosecutor short in trying to prosecute over ukraine is that by then had the power to remove him in a matter of hours and biden boasted about it he has been there since you know mounted promo for that one for several years he has been called boasting about it you know victoria no one said who should be the Prime Minister of this new liberal. Nor clique right so the United States has been dictating the Ukrainian Government for all these years who they should have liked as ministers absolutely and who should that them point us prosecutor general so they have been dictating and now what does this Ukrainian Government to look like these socalled free guys who liberated some sort of russia during their 2016 campaign they were all on the side of he were clinton they gave her the materials which the stall from the party of regions about mana for its payment then in 2016 when trump won the interior minister of arc of quickly cleared out from his facebook account all of the attacks against trump. Praiseful clinton then the. New general prosecutor decided od trump has won so now i can go against this clinton id gates guy so he gave an interview to the heel of bart then merrick an ambassador in ukraine meri jaan of age who told him whom he as the prosecutor general could not touch. No the least of the untouchables and that was published in the here and now would stand on the stance that he was stupid trump is not true in the country and liberals are running the show there so we suddenly hear from now how do biden did not fly way to new york reunion was at least optional we dont see any wrong doing a company you can play you call that much of the most goods bought you know how to buy that was on the board the really clouds how he made least 100 pounds a long experience in the energy field correct apparently. This is no. Less no no no no or so we were very close with your cage so he left the navy. Just sort of cocaine yes this is the man he was making 50000 i think this is a this is a good thing about Ukrainian Government you dont need any credentials or could have qualifications would send good did not have a deal of education and he became the prosecutor general right. You know basically the chairman of the rub that. He has been a professional nazi all his life he followed the National Socialist party of ukraine in 1901 he never did anything i think was called socialist nationalist he just flipped the words if you call that nationalists social but everyone understood what it meant in 1081 right so he became the chairman of the rather without any qualification and then that the states was perfectly fine with because they were going there what does this mean to me because we went through this 3 years of russia gave russian meddling in the election but it looks and i have been talking about this for years theres ample evidence that was ukrainian meddling in the us president ial election cycle here. It seems to me both sides now are kind of in a quandary because they both have their own narrative. Myself going to be well this case broke it for us is really. Going to have a day job because if remember the 2016 election. The big play by the democrats was you know that they got exposed clinton had worked with the d. N. C. To rig the primary but then they were able to switch narrative by saying oh no actually trump the reason why we know this is because all the information came to trump and now it seems like were going down this road again this is like yes yes biden after the coup in ukraine you know biden got this position and all this money even though theres no no skills in this area. By all means it seemed like a this was very much a way to. Sort but i mean folks are going to have to throw some money at the american oligarchy to stay protected but but nonetheless this is not the this is not a this is not the case neither of the you know joe biden was trying to successfully got the chief prosecutor fired for pursuing this the real case is now that trump wants to reopen the investigation but it is it is shocking that it seems like if he is the frontrunner really for the d. N. C. It looks like it will be pretty much a replay of 2000 its going to trump kin can say whatever he wants to World Leaders he has that type of latitude he had many conversations with the lecky and so even the quid pro quo part where they were arguing that he offered up military aid to ukraine thats been debunked thats been debunked now say whatever he wants to lets keep the fact of the matter is that we have bite in video biden why did to admit. That he got show can fire he wanted to think another important issues we wrap it up right now is it again his White House Leaks very badly you have a person that knows a person that knows a person is a whistleblower this looks like him in intention to harm his presidency but i think its backfiring its a boomerang its going to boomerang on a lot of people its going to gentlemen its all the time we have here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r. T. C. An exciting remember. 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