Morbidity and mortality rates that are at least as low and in some cases lower than normal weight individuals who are unfit or inactive in other news this week the 21000 womens world cup was a flashpoint for controversy when the u. S. Team kicked off their world cup run well the 13 and over win over thailand and they celebrated their goals on the field now some are asking not only of the u. S. Team should have celebrated their win but even if they should have been allowed to score so many points against a less Successful Team it seems weve lost sight of the point of competition and defying our own limits which means we should start watching the logs. Told. The. Real that is what. The part of. The day like you are going to. Play. Thank. You thank. You thank. Welcome everybody lots sometimes to wallace and when the news just isnt getting to the heart of the matter you have to gaze upon the images flashed in our faces take a long hard look at the facts and enter the gallery. Thanks joining me in the gallery today are American Sports producer dana ham and our team america correspondent rachel black and thank you guys for joining me here today thank you so i guess ill start with you what do you think what do you give is this comments by timing a gold i mean she called it a dangerous lie this idea that we know will will women keep the its sort of like you know we are we going to exercise and should we exercise them if we do are we allowed to wear nice things while doing it i think its a vicious cycle of people who maybe are overweight or need to be healthier want to work out so you want to look good when you work out meaning a because you know when you feel good about yourself youre more likely to do something but also workout equipment can be dangerous you dont want loose clothing that gets stuck in a barbell or 2nd machine and then disaster ensues. But that same time theyre telling you no no your body cant wear that nice tight spandex and stuff so then youre in this vicious cycle of you these people want to be healthier they want the clothes to wear and then nike or other women and you know theyre making them and people are going no no dont wear it yeah the water is what you dont go into the nature of i think its interesting too that shes commenting on a Marketing Campaign for nike and thats the whole point of they were trying to do something that was different that was out there and that would appeal to a larger audience so the fact that shes even commenting about it or saying something that like about it shows that what theyre doing is successful so i think its notable that theyre making a Campaign Like that but its also going to be interesting to see what other. And hes followed through in that and if it becomes a new trend and then all of a sudden nike is going to have to look for a new Marketing Campaign to go off of everyone else is doing it then its not so unique anymore i dreaded stress i find it funny because a close is always a big discussion amongst women is finding clothes that fit and whether your a size 0 or youre a size 16 theres this weird world where if you dont fit into one of those 2 little boxes theres that theres sort of nothing for you i want to help you i find it funny because the diet industry seems to get a pass its always this way you should have body positive clothes you shouldnt have body positive and yet these same people are so worried about Womens Health are now going after things like shake ology or whatever like shake. As somebody calls them who. What why are we going after that if its really about health is that what its about or is it about only its getting effect where. I think its that part where theyre like use our ts use our coaching systems that plays in that diet culture because that idea that thin is fit and thats not necessarily the case and its sad because youre putting this idea in peoples heads that it is in thin is and you need to be both you can be heavy and in very good shape you can be thin and be in very bad shape you can be on healthy and i think the fact that people pay into this it also screws your mental psyche a little bit because you girls growing up thinking you know i saw that a a girl going shes going to go to the gym or lose weight so men will Pay Attention to her because that idea that if shes not thin enough yeah shes not going to get the attention thats just wrong and it is interesting to see like these Marketing Campaigns like she called you dont focus on you know the health of the matter but instead focus on this image that you want to look like and so its interesting to see ok we may have Marketing Campaigns right now though will go to try to look for like if you look at nike you like theyre going to look for average size women well what if all companies do that and then all of a sudden they start scaling back and pushing for really thin women on their mannequins because is that something the majority of the culture wants to see do they want to you know see things that they want to aspire to be more so than what you know right now we may be saying that we want to look at something that looks more like us but if we get better were going to have been go the opposite route yeah i think thats actually a good way to look at it you want to have you want people to aspire to something we want you know especially in health you want to start something healthy and Something Interesting and i know you know youre the keyboard warriors is like to say well comments a lot especially working you know and feel like t. V. On everything on your appearance and now you have women maybe who you know dont want that to just be the sole focus and they want to be healthy for their children. Grandchildren and just be in their lives and i think thats good we should be shaming them and pushing these hoops hes actually no more literally one of the things i also wanted to get on to talk about healthy women it was the u. S. Womens the womens world cup there is something monumentally sexist in my mind of claiming that the women of thailands team have to be protected from from a loss. By you know where im sorry who are the snowflakes because i think its where i think its a great system this idea of like. So many points against the nation. Ive never her ive never heard of more ridiculous saying that these types the thai women are so delicate i dont think its funny that they that people dont think its sexist and they dont see anything wrong with the commentary saying you know shit a lot up on them the tide team themselves came out said this isnt we dont feel disrespected we dont feel like this is wrong we didnt play as well they were not as good as them and even alex morgan went over and comforted the goalie after the last like this wasnt like a ha ha ha ha rubbing in your face kind of thing its sports and this is a game this is a world tournament did you kind of expect them not to celebrate and i think like you said cheer welcome to sports i mean weve all rooted for different teams and we know that sometimes our Favorite Team goes up against a team that is way better than and they dont come out on top and so its interesting to see that the conversation has shifted to the away from the fact that we have a really incredible womens team that we could be talking about and celebrating but it is interesting to see that now theyve still found something to criticize even when theyre really good at the sport and you have girls who this is their 1st world cup Mallory Pugh Roosevelt they scored their 1st gold and theyre you know parents fans watching should they not be excited i mean if i scored my 1st world cup goal i want to celebrate whether was goal number 10 or goal number 13 you know its an accomplishment when you see n. F. L. Players who are known for their celebratory dances in the end zone something that people look forward to so it is interesting to see is this a different bias when it comes to women is this something thats going to continue as a as a go on do you i mean youre in the sports world what you know how are people reacting to this you get both sides a spectrum of the canadian answer you actually things thats incredibly disrespectful that they were celebrating after a goal like 8 but you dont look at the team you dont ask do they have a particular goal in my name is not the goal they rack up a goal differential will matter if it comes down to it at the end of the day so the morgue. Well you have that goal differential is going to be for you but you know out morgan is now in the running for the golden boot at the womens world cup she has 5 goals in that game alone maybe thats her personal compliment maybe thats something she wants so why she say to turn it back like granted there are men of all teams that play you know the 3 schools in the run up a 72 to 3 score but we dont see the exact type of criticism you just see maybe they shouldnt schedule those teams not you should stop for a. I look at all this and we have this idea of you know its all from like what women wear while we do sports to all and to any final thoughts or anything you want to kind of talk about any of this all together how does this all fit together and is theres a point where there seems to be so many rules of that women are supposed to follow and be mindful of so that we dont make people uncomfortable with ari this. Well i think to a certain extent not to take all of it so seriously because the end of the day everyone is going to have an opinion and a lot of people are pushing a different agenda whether theyre talking about criticizing women for what theyre doing on the field or for what theyre wearing like its just important to remember the the end of the day those are still people and its about much more than just what theyre wearing or whether they scored too many goals against them of their team and their gender and. I think at the end of the day youre going to always have the you know social media trolls the keyboard warriors i think were going to fix this it just its being done and is this one going to have war world cup wins and you so what are you so angry about here oh its strange i think we are so overly sensitive about certain things and people become overly sensitive about women in general and when you know theres either sports or clothing or something its always this idea that we have to be careful because we dont want to upset the apple cart and i say whatever you know what good came from from her timing like nothing changes and not finding that your own limits you know much of the beginning is this idea of we will blow our own limits out of the water were the ones who decide those limits not a food critic from. A british. Newspaper and certainly not you know canadian sports announcers so i want to thank you both. Really brigid am a gallery thank you so much regina him and Rachel Blevins thank you so much for coming on today. As we go to break off watch yourself or get to let us know what you think of the topics weve covered on facebook and twitter sarah says our dot com coming up and for i will give you perception and perspective as he talks about the toxicity of the medias obsession with masculinity and why one missouri senator is convinced social media is a parasite watching. You. After a breakdown in negotiations president s and she may soon again meet to hash out a trade deal the stakes couldnt be higher both sides need to proceed to wind failure could witness the Global Economy divided blocks and. Internet were. To get up off the ground. Down. And then freeze on the sounds of. Man like wrestling essentially. Through his. Wish to do away from. The obvious or did they kind of lunge for the web in ones midst and then when it happened on trace one. Didnt i never saw any contact with. Any kind of went back to where they were so the answers back here there again 15 feet apart at this point and thats when the officer is gonna need beyond 3. So you say that brings this to the end of the series if we could just let josie marino walk away so we decided to treat a still goes to a very special Farewell Party because. We walk along an interesting path as a team but this time to go back to the punch line and thanks for putting on such a great body. With. The only thing that i didnt enjoy was my dancing on ice in moscow my dancing. On ice. Well thankfully we nailed it literally there we can. Never ending rush of life from the dazzle of news media here in the 21st century its easy to lose our footing and stumble through the pain glass window of reason and object. This where where then will we no longer find ourselves quickly falling into a void of conformity and irrationality this is why we need to always keep the path im one of us the lumen ated with the glowing Silver Screen of a little perception and perspective. Our of my friends today would start things off with a little toxic masculinity yes for those of you living under a baby boomer rock toxic masculinity is according to the good men project the cultural ideal of manliness where the strength is everything while emotions are a weakness where sex and brutality are yardsticks by which men are measured well supposedly feminine traits which can range from emotional vulnerability to simply not being hyper sexual are the means by which your status as a man can be taken away in other words toxic masculinity is every bullied from out from pretty much every 1980 s. Teen movie from gift 10 to Johnny Lawrence but my friends apparently all the folks who grew up watching Johnny Lawrence blocked daniel sons crane kicker cheered when biff tannen stole the Sports Almanac in the war and are now taking offense to modern cultures current condemnation of toxic masculinity recently writer and speaker matt walsh pot positive in the daily wire that toxic masculinity actually saved the world in world war 2 writing on the anniversary of d. Day that quote well 24000. 00 of those kinds of men went charging into a hurricane of bullets and blood on this day 75 years ago they went all that way to die or kill or both these were violent men rough men toxic men toxic at least of those who oppress the innocent and opposed freedom well joining me now to discuss whether toxic masking at least save the world is the hope of the big picture holland book professor of journalism and Georgetown University Chris Chambers and the host of the news with rick sanchez the one and only rick sanchez all 3 men. You know were all going to grow up together do you want to. Go i want to start at the mr wallaces. Contention that the 24000. 00 soldiers who landed at normandy were filled with this toxic mass killing that we are weaker today for not pushing men to quote be like them be a man and be who you are because as long as there is evil in this world we all need men laden thick with toxic masculinity to rise up in me to toxic masculine really really save the world and you have no idea what the hell hes talking about. Bridge with the word that masculinity and toxic should even be ever together because being masculine is not toxic it just means that youre masculine so this and by the way as for who fought in world war 2 yeah most of those guys were mad but you know what get ready because in about 20 years all the robots and then we want to have this argument and then a couple years after that itll be the end of the world. Well i mean i think hes conflating violence and aggression with duty loyalty i mean most of these guys were you know were drafted and a lot you know it whatever society you come from people run into a hail of bullets because its something that they have to do i mean its a its you know we were called up we had to do it theyre not saying theyre going to you know its i would say its a job im not in the center of gravity thank you very much a lot of. It but its its its not a job but it is in its duty its loyalty its something that they felt they had to do im sure all 24. 00 if thats that of a board rather been and in another place but when you look at it you know 75 years later through the lens of hollywood and all that crap it puts a lot of this this weird deano on what your feelings are well i think women in uniform today ought to be retroactively offended by this trope and. Back in the day of rosie the riveter was as much a part of the war effort as the guys who. We were in forward positions everybody was in on this but as you said in your introduction the pendulum kind of swings back and forth clearly were seeing a backlash to the meat to Movement Ever since the billy bush tape and everything trump has said ever since to seems to be feeding this red meat fire it really is it bothers me in the sense because its like when i look at it i dont you know i think you can put i disagree with you rick i think you can put toxic masculinity in the same mold when youre talking about men who are using the worst aspects of masculinity overly aggressive and all of that and then like saying all that something i should aspire to be something the should be celebrated those are the worst parts about this is whether you use the term with a dash between the 2 words or not i guess thats my particular problem with it if the idea is that you use that term and what youre saying with that is all men when they act masculine are being toxic i call bullcrap on that because i want my sons to be masculine just like i want my daughters are going to listen masculine theres a difference in what we decide is masculine right you know the proper masculine is and you know pinching women in the butt running around you know your instruction arm but i dont know bell but if you know what youre doing i say youre doing the same thing thats bull crap youre doing the same thing too many people do oh do you mean masculine as in misbehaving no i mean masculine as in being a man ok thats all im saying and theres nothing wrong with being a man and we have to stop this thing were doing in the general media today where its bad to be a man and anybody who acts in a man way is doing something wrong bullcrap. You know. People who sexually assaulting abused people probably are not criminals or criminals that are probably not the best soldiers you know i mean they might appear you know you have that again that patina you know there is this obsession with d. Day to i mean you know this is this is rough. Today there were millions of russian soldiers that were sitting around going well who am i going to who you know how im going to get drunk and rape somebody to say their country was invaded by the very stoically stoically and just automatically said ive got to do something about it and thats what im talking about that sense of loyalty and duty in the face of just horror you know to be able to just sit there and just knuckle under and you know when i was watching the movie dunkirk the same thing those guys were not sitting around going to the germans are beautiful you want to do a beer yeah. We did a race of people you know a lot better stay alive you know as these guys went back to the continent on this and fought that you know fought the germans all the way you know back and so i dont know where you know the daily wire you know i dont understand where this comes from you know look one of things we got to get to is like look after toxic masculine naturally come social media because what better place to fight over you know what does or does not make up a man than on the twitter verse. But this social media itself theyre saying is now toxic is it toxic to the Human Experience this is the question recently posed by. Recently posed by republican senator out of missouri josh holley when he questioned the methods of financial gain used by social media giants like facebook and twitter social media only works as a Business Model if it consumes users time and attention day after day it needs to replace the various activities we did perfectly well without social media addiction is actually the point thats what social media shareholders are investing in the addiction of users he went on in the usa today piece to call social media a parasite on human relationships and societies gentleman this is interesting to me is social media a parasite on society in its current form the one guy who never stops tweeting and never stops facebook against holland so i mean let him start with i had a psycho therapist Nancy Collier on my show. And you are not overstating it when you say addiction because she talked about cortisol there is something biochemical thats happening when you get that validation and when were hyped up to the point where were always. As opposed to experiencing our environment there is something biochemical happening and as you said this is how they make money its all about the clicks and we confuse clicks with comrades we think that our online friends are in your hands i dont not part of that but heres heres heres the point i would like to make about this i agree with you by the way and i think its a point well made that we are come becoming addicted to this stuff and that is not healthy Everybody Knows that we see our kids today they dont even talk to each other husbands and wives dont talk at restaurants everybody has their cities or theyre just type of i guess you could make that argument but now add to that the phenomenon that started with Rush Limbaugh and then followed by fox news which is actually says those guys are all the enemies black people are the enemy of the nazis are the enemy in other words all women are the enemies who you know are defending their rights so they created this this is this group of people who hated the other guys and then along comes them as a b. C. And essentially mimics what theyre doing so the media created the message that is now being proliferated on social media so you cant just blame social media for the message although you can blame it all and says for the over you knowledge right amped up the volume and philosophy of it i hate starting somewhere else what are your thoughts on well i mean theyre theyre theyre both right i mean its the theyre talking about different ingredients in the soup and then when you when you talk go back to the Business Model but not really the diction Business Model but the you know getting peoples private information Business Model which is where the money really is you need both ingredients in the soup to keep people you know in there and so its not like a long continuous parasitic suck its not like a tape worm its more like a mosquito. Well thats like like millions of mosquitoes boom boom boom boom boom so its not really a tape worm its more like im going to what i want i want to actually read something to you guys because you have a positive but yeah i mean i want to talk about its actually going to play into the whole edward r. Murrow once said at the university of minnesota talking about television he said the instrument can teach it can illuminate yes and it can even inspire but it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends otherwise its nothing but wires and lights in a box this is a great and perhaps the decisive battle to be fought against ignorance and tolerance and difference this is the weapon of television is where it could be useful i would add that social media could add to that armory and it is you could go right now ive lately gotten into podcasts and i watch you tube a lot more than i used to watch cable news for example i watch you tube and one of my fixations is guys who cut different versions of me and ive got a 1000000 you tube channels but i have some. Of butchers and i also like guys who you know certain methods im into all these niches that i happen to like i dont know what you guys like but for me and theres nothing man grier vile about it its just so it can be ultimately and podcast your partner baking podcast how to say everything there is everything under the sun and that up is developing and weve got to weve got to push that more than the negative i want to thank you all right holland cook Chris Chambers you rick sanchez for coming on today that is our show for you today everyone remember in this world we are told that we are so i tell you all i love you i am i robot for a keep watching all those talks about the great. Sage breeze this is the end of this if we could just let josie marino walk away so we decided to treat to a very special well. We walk along the path of the dream but this time to go back to the punchline and thanks for putting the body. With the red carpets the only thing i didnt enjoy was my eyes. My dancing. On ice cream. That. Made it. Well actually we nailed it literally there we go. Seal will. Hold. Up no real world will know well. Because it. Was a march. Toward. The city. And you would need a new york city for times to. Meet you. Yes. Might have wanted something. New for the which. Youll see in the local which is the. One with your leanings leakers chutzpah to look at your bullshit to look at you look to see what you. We are in strange situation where everybody is making a lot of noise about military action against iran but nobody in the part of that alliance actually wants to do it theres no desire for it so do you hope that iran makes a mistake and somehow. And then theres a some kind of confrontation and then the iranians will be forced to come to the table you know begging for some kind of solution on american terms but you know i think that is dreaming thats a pine tree. You could call through just a few weeks cofounder Julian Assange which will not face his u. S. Extradition hearing until next year if convicted in america he could face up to 175 years in prison. The crew of one of the all time kids dummies in a suspected attack in the gulf of oman say that they were hit by a flying projectile apparently contradicting u. S. Claims that iran planted a mine on the bus to tehran sit back at the american allegation accusing the u. S. Of resorting to sabotage diplomacy. Meanwhile in the u. K. The National Advertising watchdog bans out verts that promote gender stereotypes
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