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Prices are much higher on all these cryptocurrency is than they were back in twenty thirteen bitcoin was down in the hundreds it is how the point of the phone has a government now slow on their feet to move in for wages and the way to fight back is vehicle of course you have to ensure with your head up what you have your own sovereignty dont rely on the government to provide sovereignty for you they provide sovereignty for corporations not labor thats the message for seven years if youve been standing and waiting for better prices waiting for better prices youre going to be waiting for the rest of your life youll never be a sovereign individual. You know you yesterday in the last episode you interviewed harry you. Storm tokyo so there are other ways to enter the Crypto Markets by the way you dont have to like to hear savings take your cast and convert it to crypto and then. You know suffer the anxiety of the ups and downs of the Crypto Market. Because it could be very volatile for a while so with like the like system talking there are loads of platforms now where you can start to earn some crypto thats where primarily all my early crypto was urns so it does i think make it a little bit less emotional i know for a fact that i feel more emotionally distraught over it when i convert. To crypto and then prices go down the stuff i earned my time exceeds my time my labor for that for the crypto. Store and still get his way to earn from also there are still mining opportunities and some of the all find you can still mine all kinds of home mining and you can do that all so many videos and so many resources if youre not participating in crypto at this point because you want to be poor. Are you well ok i mean there are different ways of thinking of it not just poor but like not wealth or sort of sovereignty or and freedom for you know we have to get a little bit outside of the whole you know crypto bro sort of notion of like we all have lamborghinis of the different users that are near zero percent and its great for corporations and its great for those politicians that are benefiting from that its also great for those wanting to get into the crypto space because the cost of capital has never been cheaper and the cost of being in this space is never going to get any cheaper but anyway thats it for this first pass from the north american big my conference here in miami secure the second half a lot more coming your way. Days ago the u. S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis updated in revised americas Global Defense strategy it is a dark vision of the world and calls for a massive defense spending what he calls a Defense Strategy critics say is a blueprint for without him. This is says harlan kentucky. Over all of this move the boy says it was very funny using. A co money since he was almost no coal mines left. The jobs are gone all the coal was a fed ex that was alive to see these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. I remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and its happened its happened. Welcome back to the kaiser report im max kaiser here at the north america because a conference in miami time now to turn to marco centaury marco welcome thank you very much well i dont were not just for a number of years now youre a veteran in this thing youre a lawyer yet would you believe in your lawyers that theres theres a couple of us ok so now youve specialized in bitcoins and tokens and crypto for years you were the very first one the very first people that youre a veteran in this space and now were entering a new period called initial Coin Offerings and its always been a challenge in the space theres always been a regulatory question mark from the very very beginning and fall michael tell us a little bit about what the challenges are now for i. C. L. As you see it. You know now the regulator is as he said right this is what everybodys talking about one token sales before its open so it was just because it was Money Services and things got really exotic it was like pointer there and people were talking about a totally different area of the law and the Money Laundering k. Y. See now people are talking about securities laws commodity derivatives lost the things that you know people who have been in Financial Services for years sort of second hand to the. Second nature to her producers and technologists this is brand new so the issues are am i selling a security if i make so if i slip up and make some kind of a statement or im not able to you know the entire house of the scope and say oh my gauging insecurities from brand new questions that technologists really have to answer right now i started my career on wall street and its a highly regulated environment and you know that at the beginning of the crypto space a big space the big question was is it a commodity is it a currency and no one ever figured that out definitively i think they regulators are kind of coming down and calling it more. More of a commodity that you see f. T. C. Is looking at it more in those terms but now at the size you know space it clearly comes under the belly wick of the f. C. C. And so are these i c. E. O. s of ramping up their legal talent and are they prepared for this or is it a mismatch and secondarily the the f. C. C. Seems like theyre a bit accommodating somewhat that theyre letting some of the growth happen organically is that whats your perception there and so you as you see has been in this space longer than most people realize i remember back in two thousand and thirteen sitting down with us you see before there were token sales before the rice ceos just just talking through sony now with us you see talking through the basic issues of this is the watching this is how you can see what do you dxo is this is the difference between a private key and a network address theyve been in the space for a long time and finally learning which is what regulators ought to do they havent they havent demolished the industry the chairman has actually come out and said look some of these things are just not securities theyre things were not going to regulate i made it very clear that if therion for example the r. C. Twenty tokens has a real use case that of the network on which a lot of these token sales are no lets talk how we test you know how we test again what is it why is it important barco its the test for what tokens are securities that also happens to be the test for what parts of orange groves are securities and so its really odd people say oh its really a square peg in a round hole or maybe its a testament to sound principles based regulation but the reality is this is a test from the sun to the test in the seventys when someone tried to sell plots of land in an orange grove are really not the plots themselves just the profit from the box as you see some thats a security how he said no no no or intros as he she won that argument and they came up with a test of the Supreme Court headsets for how it was investment of money and a confidence or a promise but the expectation. Primarily from the efforts of others to take the test and you apply it to a cell and there are all different right and there seem to be more variations and that allows into how we test in other words theres so many hybrids if you will in the space and on the legal front is that part of what youre doing is to try to sort through a lot of the minutia and the various to come up like you know how does this fall its not entirely and absolutely its a facts and circumstances based test which is sort of a legal way of saying its a small test although when i see it but at least you know it gives flexibility to regulators you need flexibility and a world of changing facts. And accommodates all of the weird stuff you see happening like well i wont name any particular sales but theres just this Great Variety where in the midst of dislike came green and blue blossoming of all these different token models models for raising money bubbles for moving money around bottles for representing assets that are not money as tokens so that they can be traded as freely as you can trade a big one right and where do you see in all this because you know thats to granddaddy of it all and its got the biggest market cap still and on the regulatory front there Different Countries are taking different approaches some countries are trying to position themselves as the quote unquote so its a little bit going they want to be because they want to try to bring that business inhouse some countries are afraid of it some countries like venezuela are trying to adopt a block change Technology Bring in their own crypto coin that the petro to circumvent sanctions on the sovereign front mark on the big picture on the sovereign front what do you see trends there so look that people have talked a long time about how to coin its own regulated coin is not under regulated the protocol is under regulated just like email is not regulated but uses of bitcoin uses theory and uses of crypto in general are regulated based on how theyre used so at least here in the United States and what i expect to see over the next year or two three four years is the exporting of those. Elation surround the world like the u. S. Is frankly very good at doing developing sound principles based regulations and lets face it sometimes not sound but by and large no reasonable regulations and joining joining g twenty groups joining the fat of the Financial Action task force making sure that those laws become harmonized so that if youre doing business in the us can pretty much do business in the e. U. Or its certain to be the u. K. Or some Asian Countries and pretty much the same way i say you fly in the high falutin circles of this industry you know youre a very well respected legal talent if people come to you marco when you see a guy like jamie diamond j. P. Morgan who scoffing if they point now hes done a bunch i was wrong i regret having said all this negative statements where the banks today in the space today consider the challenge are they trying to adapt and so they can feed still where are they now the banks couldnt care less im telling you the banks could not care less and i confess in two thousand and twelve and twenty thirteen there were there were some undercurrents some sort of social community undercurrents about how the banks were going to react they were going to try to quash bitcoin they were going to try to get rid of it and make sure that it could threaten them it turns out the banks really were deliberately by because they dont feel threatened and i think realistically they arent actually threatened so when jamie diamond said look i think big point is a fraud. And then changed his mind later i applaud that and you know somebody should change their mind based on human from asian nation change their opinions based on human emissions but when he did say that coin is a fraud i was quoted in the same f. T. Article saying look bet is. Conjecture the big point is used for Money Laundering its been disproven it is its its just not a meme that has really aged well yes cant be used for Money Laundering yes big point is used for money but every single government that has studied it has found the use of crypto for illegal activities to be read. I dont think they have a grasp on plus that they study you know use Money Laundering what is used and they have various you have turned cease and they have various other commodities and took his ways into how we already have prepaid cards credit cards whole laundry list of things h. M. T. In in the u. K. The u. K. Treasury just released another study that confirmed that study last year that crypto still ranks the lowest it is an emerging threat as as regulators like to say yes its something to be on peoples radar but look i mean this is this demonstrably this is this is not a criminal. Its only its a nonstarter and that front terms of percent now when i was speaking earlier about bitcoin is a commodity is a currency i saw your eye brows furrow as if to think i read your mind and youre like wow this guys off base here somehow let me ask you that debate about how does it fall in the category of is it like someone called a duck billed platypus you know right its the memo but rather fouled our nor. You know what how do you see that so heres your chance articulate how you see it in the pantheon of assets and Digital Assets i am so. Im so glad that i dont have to. Because because bitcoin is not a commodity crypto is not a commodity its not a currency its not property its a protocol it is a language the computers use to talk to each other what they do with that language the output cation of the protocol that is regulated based on application think goodness for that because had it gone another way we would have had Technology Specific regulations like all cars must have at least four cylinders in order to be safe and sound on the road well we would have any teslas of that if if if that was a lie what so thankfully we dont have much Technology Specific regulation in the u. S. We. Application based regulation so crypto is used to represent an investment contract its a security when its used to represent a limited Partnership Interest its a security when its used to represent you know index of index of other currencies for example like a stable coin its probably come out of a derivative depends on how you use it thats how its regulated knew us today what about this argument some put forward that crypto should be protected under free speech because its Software Software is speech and therefore it cannot be outlawed because you cannot outlaw free speech your thoughts i i love the argument i will shout it from the rooftops and tell it to luna face to mix metaphors d. M. S. O. Metaphor i want to put real estate in kuwait around to born to you know into jars ability but look realistically if it is speech its probably commercial speech and commercial speech is has a much lower bar for regulations to pass so even if it is free speech course we have limits on that and i put on your badge of prognostication that crystal ball next year at this time next two or three years one of the big trends that maybe are not on peoples radar that you see developing i think everyones talking about the f. C. C. And there are powerful agency and they carry a lot of weight and theyre very important but they may be beat to this they may be beat to market so to speak by the private litigations theres a lot of private lawsuits out there where the first question a court is going to have to determine are these things secure theyve got to figure out which lotto Point Securities laws are common last. And just common law fraud out so there is a distinction as you see might not be the first person to come out and give this clarity it might happen in the in the world of the private law says theres a couple of class action suits out there there are well known examples and so youre saying there thats where the law will be made im saying you know only may have a decision by a court before we have this sort of Crystal Clear guy. By assisi or a safe harbor by assisi the courts might speak first do you see an example coming up at all that might spill over into a gray area because you have clients and me dont you cant you know youd speak in a neutral way i guess is a good phrase for that where they are trading with a long line in a way that is got it more so than because its always been this way market from the day one its always been always stepping over the line its always been that way is that its kind of consistent over the last six or seven years or are we entered a different period where maybe its slightly different some way what are your thoughts i dont think there are any new areas what it when it comes to push me off a little i think entrepreneurs will continue to push the envelope and sometimes that will be a very very closely tailored oh and below by fernandez so thats what were seeing today marco censuring can i mention the name of your firm yeah by all cooley what does it look cool business cards all black white and red this classic anyway thank you come on the time report thanks for all right well thats going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report was me max kaiser and stacy i would want to thank our guests marco centaury of coolie if you want to catch us on twitter its kaiser report its like somebody. You know one of the things we saw in this entire Campaign Leading up to trumps election was very little discussion of the facts nobody said look you know you may be the smartest person in the world in your area of treating people in the Real Estate Market but when it comes to actually understand economics you have no background i think any you know good economists could possibly have won that election. Depressed paid and attention to that. Everybody im stephen ball. Hollywood guy suspects every proud american first of all im just George Washington and r. V. To suggest this is my buddy max famous financial guru and well its a little bit different i thought of going to the owner with no doubt with all the drama happening in our country im shooting the brood have some fun every day americans. And hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the Great American people which. Is. What politicians to do something to. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president mentioned more somehow want to be rich. But you do like to be press its like before three in the morning cant be good to as im interested always in the why is it our last. Question. Like so many who tumbled into the world events depressants without forethought david calm i coded so unaware of the potential dangers when i was on paxil we had no idea the trigger delusions or none of that was out in the Public Domain for so many years you just assume my doctor knew best. Im going about the side effects the hard way its like i cant just immediately into busy worrying when everything happened and i had just finished grade eight for my friends who knew my father they just knew that something was wrong because they knew who my dad was and you just would never in a million years think that he would do something that he did. Currently was a high priority mind to be the best perm possible. How about openness waits looks. They become michael had been on sixty milligrams of paxil for two weeks when he andy and set out for one of their favorite father son activities a b. M. X. Bike competition in london ontario. Yes. What ive learned in this journey is i no longer take for granted even one breath things get reduced to the minutes and he you know that you have the strength for that minute its so well. Actually. Have the. Place they are there and i were friends in college were both a county majors david was that funny brilliant guy that yours wanted in your group david was a guy youd want to be around and starts about to us a split when you met and it was garys he was open it was funny was very witty my dad was a very caring father. Very funny too it wake me up in the morning singing whatever group i was into at the time it was vice girls when i was little its a brilliant auditor auditing for a Major Corporation is stressful and theres a lot of things that go with that if you want to do the right thing david was a guy who like any of us had his share of challenges in life we all did we went to the psychiatrist in early two thousand and six and he said well what about prozac you have a chemical imbalance lets put you on prozac its the standard of care its what they do its almost a Marketing Strategy that works you know. If i have a disease within days of ingesting prozac david crespi became troubled towards the end of just talking back and forth he said do you. Ever feel like life is too dark to go on its crazy its not the way i think. I recall a few events from the day before that would suggest that he was going psychotic david was jumping out of the bed and Walking Around a throw rug and hitting each corner and then jumping back into bed and im going what are you doing because he just feels good well now i attribute that to act the shia. Tragedy was january twentieth two thousand and six on that day took the kids to school left to go get my hair cut left the girls in the care of their loving father they wanted to spend time with and when i came back into the neighborhood after being gone for an hour and fifteen minutes i saw a Police Barricade and i saw some of my very concerning abers coming towards me the Police Officer asked my name and he said were going to need you in this house. So much. I called my dad in california and i made sure my step mom was right next to him and i said you know dad i have to tell you something really hard i said i am in the back of a police car and ive just been told that david killed sam tell us what he did you. Know how many can stab. A family if your world. I know i know its real or fear i be very down the way of. My step mom adored salman tassel as we all did started wailing and i could hear her on speakerphone and my dad goes honey dave not to you that david is not like that you are mistaken how i wish i were about i am in the back of a squad car. Crispy children must go to the police and were told nothing until kimmer. Ive to the station they really thought that their dad had killed himself my mom came in and told us that theyre telling me that your dad killed your sisters we had to use the language theyre telling me because we couldnt believe that thats what actually happened idea of him killing to us and sam was so foreign but they knew something had happened and thats how the whole thing started i went to the doctor and i can remember saying im afraid i may hurt someone or she said your compact too compassionate to do that thats just the depression talking never was anybody ever saying the medicine could do this psychosis the drug killed our daughters he. Was his gellatly altered my dad in his right mind when you have done anything like this i can remember this battle of these thoughts are real because when you have a complete psychotic break like that and you kill two of your most treasured people in your life people that every other day every other day he would have died for them what i did was done on a cocktail of Illegal Drugs we were doing what the doctor sold us to do we were being responsible just because somethings legal doesnt mean its safe. And for all of that were serving two back to back life sentences. July thirty first two thousand and four i had been on paxil for three weeks i took me into a hotel room in london ontario and. At three oclock in the morning thinking that he had permanent brain damage that he was living hell he was going to kill my daughter julian he was going to harm other kids and my wife was going to respect them which were my five delusions i strangle them and i sat with his body for six hours until i call the police in one oclock in the morning very calmly saying that i had committed homicide and open the door for them and then i was arrested and charged first degree murder when the police came in and arrested me now ask me why did not run i said i want to stay with my son is in a better place now he was a living hell and i stayed with him as long as possible for fourteen long days david carr michael was psychotic and suffered drug withdrawals in his jail cell before awakening to the ultimate terra psychosis lasted for two weeks and african my psychosis a couple weeks after everything happened i was devastated i cried for three days in segregation the London Middlesex Attention Center i cannot believe what i had ian was laid to rest by davids family it would be months before d. N. A. Tests indicated that carmichaels body was unable to metabolize the paxil he did jested and that the drug was the likely cause of this unthinkable act dr peter bergen says hes seen it all before many people do not have the a ray of enzymes in their livers to properly destroy s. S. R. I. Drugs when they get no bloodstream so the judge pierce the liver and they dont get quote metabolized me they dont get broken down so you might get the equivalent of a ten milligram dose of an s. S. R. I. But your blood level is thirty or forty and there are studies out of australia correlating the violence with the lack of the enzyme for these drugs the public has no understanding of how powerful rather as a society trigger homicidal psychotic episode and they may not care. Now but there is evidence based on d. N. A. That passport did cause me to kill my son and its something that i have to live with and i want to more in the public you know my stigma is after charitable is thing around Mental Illness and if people beat me up emotionally when im out there thats why theyll never be me up as much as it be myself a prolifer for her part jillian who was only fourteen when the tragedy occurred says she grew up the day she grasped what it really happened to her father i realized who he was before who he was during the period of time that he was taking medication. And i realize it is two different people david credits julian is the reason he did not take his own life while in prison there were several times or i was either in jail or in a Psychiatric Hospital where i related to my own life what kept me going was my daughter julia so one line and it was im a good dad im going to be a dad again and that was my hope and you know jillian whatever she was doing wherever she was was thinking that she wanted her dad back in her life to how can i not accept him back you you know hes an amazing man hes my father and i love him David Carmichael was found not criminally responsible for his sons death as two psychiatrists one working for the defense and one for the prosecution both agreed that he was psychotic at the time of the tragedy i was like to care about this another he was the empathy for me but i think you know when i tell you what i. Serve. There the pain will never go away ian was just an amazing person and he was an amazing brother and he was an amazing friend and amazing son he just he had so much life you know. Sorry. By two thousand and four the British Government had virtually banned s. S. All rise for children and young adults in light of the real risk of suicide and violence but in america the us f. D. A. Remained unconvinced and demanded more studies for over twenty years thomas was head of f. D. A. Psychopharmacology division and had been in the sick of the s. S. R. I. Controversy since well before the one nine hundred ninety one prozac hearings lawson left f. D. A. In two thousand and twelve and started a new business dedicated to helping Drug Companies get f. D. A. Approval for their drugs but he was not alone at the intersection of Public Service and personal profit i do not find from the evidence today that there is credible evidence to support a conclusion that an ide to present drugs cause the emergence and or the intensification of suicidality and or other violent behaviors when dr daniel casey resurfaced nine years after the one thousand nine hundred one prozac hearings he chad he did so as a paid Expert Witness for pfizer attorney andy victory conducted the deposition you were the chairman of that committee for several years right yes the chairman of that committee who is moderating it in a public building in a public place was wearing a bulletproof vest dr casey did you wear a bulletproof vest at that meeting yes. I do you ever wore one part of that well have you ever worn one set you know because either one of the family members of the people men are by president would shoot him you certainly did not believe it was felt from the eli lilly side of the coin did you know no conflict of interest and yet that would not affect your objectivity so your testimony yes. About your sudden passing ive only just learned you worry yourself and taken your last wrong turn. Your attitude up to you as we all knew it would i tell you im sorry i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. I remember when we first met my life turned on each breath. But then my feeling started to change you talked about war like it was a cave still some more fun to feel those that didnt like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind gets consumed with death this was quite different i speak to you now because there are no other takers. To claim that Mainstream Media has met its maker. But rather the sarah and her horses. Are all over the mom. And our good that are there are more of her rather proud of all of the four north america of their. Own lawyer a little better but ill cut him they are cutting and kick and they are almost i have to lose each other first of all that i live in the living there are a lot lower than i was on the show with those little. A lot of the. Members that i will with i want to do it. For their good for told. Place choice the i knew you didnt pay on time in syria says. The shiites our civil. 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In a remote town in western canada the stephan family was facing a life and death struggle in the shadow of the Rocky Mountains two of Debbie Stephens children were exhibiting the same symptoms that had ultimately claimed her life joseph was becoming frighteningly violent and his sister autumn was succumbing to severe bipolar with its mecurio mood swings their father tony stuff and was desperate and searching for any way to save his children when drug after drug failed the answer came from what seemed the unlikeliest of places micronutrients mainly minerals i remember the earlier days of you know doing the the testing with nutrients and and Different Things i think they were trying to reduce some liquid mineral thing too you know so its not like you to drink or cup of something it could be an ounce and i dont think it worked very good and it smelled funny i remember the smell and i can still taste in the back of my throat i think they burned it im not sure we put him on a cocktail that contain Vitamins Minerals any arguments in amino acids i was absolutely livid when i found out that he had taken just off of his medication and i said some terrible things to him i told him that it was on his head the next suicide in this family was going to be has fought i remember about six weeks into this program that we sat together on the couch and he said where was or. What happened to me why was i so angry all the time said dont go there you dont have to live the day youre here in the present it was like one day waking up and a fog had completely left it and that was amazing it was it were very real turning point in my life with joseph on the mend tony steph and then turned his attention to his daughter autumn who had been in and out of sight wards. I wont say that i forced her to do it because it doesnt some politically correct but i constrained her to do it you know and she she just didnt believe that this was going to work at all first it was just you picking your medications i dont care you know take your meds take this weather just keep taking it so they waited until i had a little med breakthrough and i went rummaging for a knife and there was and screaming involved and he and this friend of his who happened to be a psychiatric nurse. Stuffed me with a bunch about a van and pup made a bed and then while i was still really nicely sedated again force feeding me the concoctions back in one thousand nine hundred six when i first met autumn stringin it was the first day i also met her father tony stephan and she was sitting there in front of us completely normal very bright very articulate very charming young woman. Doing very well on vitamins and minerals but she had lived through this horrible horrible period and could remember it so vividly it was very impressive you knew that you were hearing a true story and i think that that has come through consistently with autumn these were just three people from southern alberta who believed that they had fixed two children in tonys family and they did it with vitamins and minerals off the shelf and they just desperately wanted a scientist somewhere to take them seriously and do some research when stefan untrue who approached dr caplan in one thousand nine hundred sixty she was the director of Behavioral Research for the university of calgary as a scientist she was highly skeptical and sort the notion of utilizing minerals for Mental Illness was simply proposed to us i thought well thats impossible you cant do that theres no way it would have that effect but i think that line of thought. Is reflective of our lack of education about nutrition and the fact that blood is bathing the neurons in our brain every minute of every day bringing oxygen and what micronutrients to make those brain cells work stephan and his cofounder created a nonprofit called true hoop and after years of experimentation they developed a mineral based formula called m. Power plus intrigued by autumn and joseph successful transformations dr kaplan and others continued studying the formula for bipolar disorder a. D. H. D. And depression he wasnt trying to build an empire when he set out to save me and joe it was it was not a deliberate act the way hes not of formulator it was a conversation that led to an idea that led to an answer and thats all he was ever in it for and hes faced saw much opposition for doing the right thing hes faced a lot of opposition for that and i think its changed the course of his whole life as it has with dr caplan when she first presented her findings about the true hope mineral vitamin combination to the canadian psychiatric Associations Annual meeting in two thousand and one she and the company were immediately under attack when i went to graduate school they did not prepare me to be personally attacked for just doing objective research that was a little shocking when you try. To get a new paradigm. The resistance is incredible i watched dr caplan go through this we had major resistance from health care the shutting down trials i mean here the operative government had provided five hundred fifty four thousand dollars so that she could continue the Work Health Care that came in and swathed the trial they destroyed Health Canada not only shut down dr kaplan Scientific Investigation into micronutrients and Mental Health they ordered true hope to stop manufacturing in power plus when the Company Refused they seized the product to the us Canadian Border and banned it for sale in canada why were talking about vitamins and minerals here when true hope fought back through the courts and won it wasnt long thereafter that Health Canada mobilized the Royal Canadian mounted police to conduct a gun was drawn raid at the true hope offices in alberta despite pharmacies falsified science and billion dollar fines for fraudulent marketing and in spite of millions who were harmed by psychiatric drugs Health Canada decided that it was this tiny nonprofit that needed to be shown the full might of the canadian government there has been a huge bias against Nutrition Research whose triggering that who what what is the political agenda that is continually. Bombarding us with the message that taking vitamins and minerals might not be a good thing i dont get that but the result is that the there is a lot of bias against people who say not only should we take them we should be studying it more and we should see whether or not there is treatment benefit from vitamins and minerals after nearly two decades of wrangling with Health Canada and three quarters of a Million Dollars in court costs and legal fees for true hope Bonnie Kaplan judea rutledge and others continue to investigate the use of nutrients as a primary treatment for Mental Health yet the road has been anything but easy. I was very aware of how many people were incredibly skeptical about this work i was trained as a scientist and we need to evaluate the evidence and what has astounded me is the obstacles that weve faced in order to try to answer whats a i think a very important question for our community i happen to think that medications are very important especially in acute crises but to me theyre the supplement in the ideal world i believe that it would be more beneficial to a lot of people especially developing children to be treated first with everything psychosocial Family Therapy etc and nutritional which is not going to cause any long term harm and that that should be primary intervention there are going to be people who want to say that you know im just trying to make a lot of money off of a big made up story but my mother is dead in the ground her dad stead. And we all know how that happened. She had a prescription and and im not dead. And ive got four healthy kids and a great marriage and thats something i didnt expect would ever happen with me. The lesson of a generations worth of psychiatric experiments is that regulators didnt protect the public doctors didnt protect patients journalists refused to us the tough questions the pharmaceutical companies played the system and profited handsomely and millions suffered died became addicts or were otherwise harmed. These are the stories of those who have fallen and of those who have somehow survived many lost sons and daughters brothers and sisters and their tragedies forced these private people out of the shadows they wanted answers and were not interested in the politics of medicine if the truth had been afforded us decades ago millions would have been spared similar fates perhaps changes coming albeit too slowly but until it occurs we should take nothing for granted not our lives nor our lives or the gift of our families and friends as these letters from generation our ex have taught us there is peril in the conventional wisdom of treating so many people so indiscriminately with such powerful life changing drugs. As they move on every birthday every holiday every anniversary of a loved ones death. Their only prayer is to stop this from happening to anyone else. Move. Move move move move. Move. Move move move. Move. Move move. Move move move move move move. Move. Out of myself and other tax reform bill next year just simplified bring in a flat tax be far is all over and done let someone bring in a fifteen percent tax rate across the board once again the best possible solution to the tax you know question in the us. Louise days ago the u. S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis updated in revised americas Global Defense strategy it is a dark vision of the world and calls for a massive defense spending what he calls a Defense Strategy critics say is a blueprint for war without it. Yes that was a pretty worthless lark coupler you. Jump in the last election i believe will do it so well mostly we dont then we will all soon but you know one of the things for now criminal bush is that so. People think you. Have seen me do the you know the middle of the scouts. Even who cooks believe you know t. G. V. Easy should resign you to judge. You were more than a million shut procedure to the english you can you get other cronies up when you tell. Me my suspicions. Are looking but its been very. Lightly. At least. The good girl over to. Close oh. Please president expanded turkeys military offensive in syria to the town of beach risking a potential confrontation with u. S. Backed forces. Top u. S. Democrats claim russian bots are responsible for a social Media Campaign to release a potentially explosive congressional memo. The exclusion of many clean up russian athletes from the upcoming Winter Olympics triggers an outcry in the sporting world. For the latest on these stories you can head to our team dot com cross talk is next to discussing the updated u. S. Military strategy. Hello and welcome to cross talk where all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle days ago the u. S. Secretary of Defense James Mattis updated and revived americas Global Defense strategy it is a dark vision of the world and calls for a massive defense spending what he calls a Defense Strategy critics say is a blueprint for wars without it. Cross talking endless wars im joined by my guest michael in washington he is a professor of strategy at the Johns Hopkins University Also in washington we have Christopher Wayne he is a former army Police Sergeant iraq war veteran and contributor to the hill newspaper and in personal we crossed to Philip Giraldi he is a former cia counterterrorism specialist who is now executive director of the council for the National Interest or a generally crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want to i always appreciated philip let me go to you first and percival i read the report and i and i will repeat what i said in my introduction i found it to be rather dark vision of the world is less about Defense Strategy then preserving or advancing had gemini around the world and i find it remarkably lacking in any kind of discussion of International Law go ahead philip. Well yes i mean International Law did not enter into it yeah it is not a as it describes itself a Defense Strategy its an often strategy and essentially what it does it takes away any genuine threats against the United States and against the American People like isis and its shifts the defense burden onto being competitive with other countries in the world most specifically russia and china and the centrally it creates. A case if you want to call it that for spending vast amounts of more money on defense basically to promote american interests which have nothing whatsoever to do with defending the country ok well that was my reading as well michael weigh in on that ok of course and i think we would all agree that the United States has the an adversarial relationship with russia and china i can accept they all have their own National Interests and they will pursue them however the way shifting away from terrorism taking away even talk of the climate i got this feeling reading of what were going back into the Nineteenth Century of great power struggles here but difference is these powers have Nuclear Weapons go ahead michael. Well this is primarily an exercise in strategic rhetoric and as such it lays out a kind of highly aggressive ceremonial strategy what you might call a fierce face strategy and that is simply because the u. S. Is entered historical period where its leadership is declining and will eventually find itself say like spain did in the early seventeenth century in a position where it can no longer orchestrate the kind of head jim on expanding us that hit had come to define itself on and so my sense is the u. S. Is staking out highly aggressive histrionics and theater in order to maintain others fear and in order to cloak the increasing insecurity that we feel because as as you said peter although we are pursuing a kind of endless war strategy that spain found out in the seventeenth century endless war feeds on itself and at the very end of that youre kind of used up and thats where we are now were entering into a kind of twilight period that may last as long as it did for spain as long as forty years before we finally give up and say well we cant do this anymore ok chris or let me read some of the words from james mattis when he was introducing the report here but i found quite bewildering here to those who threaten americas experiment in democracy if you challenges you it will be your longest and worst day so what does this have to do with National Security i mean who is attacking americas democracy other than the Democratic Party cheating Bernie Sanders and possibly the d. O. J. Trying to undermine in a legally elected president of United States i find it really quite galling that the defense secretary is talking about democracy when one can make the supposition that its very challenge in the u. S. Itself go ahead christopher. Sure i think that you know secretary madison is a marine he understands war i understand war and i think that taking this position hes asserting himself hes establishing a tenner on the on the global stage and were just sort of stating the obvious that these are global powers on the on the end of a long history i mean post World War Two the main power players have in some ways stayed the same but the u. S. Role has expanded i actually look at this a little bit differently in reverse and i think we want to the u. S. Is focusing on nucular deterrence and the idea of this strategy is focused back on deterring Nuclear Powers namely north korea from continuing to be aggressive while reducing endless war i think weve seen i think russia and the United States both seeing the experience of endless combat with forces that are sort of magic things like isis you know we theres ways to control those without having those endless conflicts so its a recalibration focused on principled Security Networks in asia and preventing those kinds of conflicts and yes china and russia are powerful nation states theyre sovereign and and those who are the traditional you know sort of power players and so were just focused on the basics ok you know philip can i read to you some more own words from the from the secretary quote we will develop it during coalitions to consolidate gains we have made gains i repeat gains weve made in afghanistan iraq syria and elsewhere to support the lasting defeat of tears as we sever their sources of strength and counter bear about iran i mean gains i dont know what hes talking about whatsoever the candidate trump said that he didnt want to go down the path of nation building well the United States now is involved in nation building in part of syria ok that it path is being continued here i cant see any gains in the countries that i just mentioned i dont know what hes talking about. You know i dont either i think that hes completely delusional if theres another comment in the report or by mattis where he said the report basically says in the confusion by the russians chinese and iranians between civic issues and military issues now what country in the world has has confused civic and military issues more than the United States so i really dont get this i think that theres certainly have been no gains nothing but disasters in those countries that he cited and theres other stuff in this report im sorry its not a conventional allaying gallup of american strategy moving forward. This is more so a a a ticket for mischief on the part of the. Administration and if theres a if we go to the issue of Nuclear Weapons obviously Nuclear Weapons should be a major issue and theres a common here that basically says that to you in the report that the United States when confronted with with the issues of National Importance like the standard of living of americans will be able to use Nuclear Weapons in a first strike capacity and this is quite incredible stuff and thats a good in that kit includes countries that do not have those kinds of weapons i would like to point out is well ok michael you know im really kind of confused here is that and i want to ask the same question of christopher is it is this Donald Trumps Foreign Policy because its very its stark contrast to what he ran on ok everything thats going on right now from from yemen to syria again. In being targeted here i mean it seems to be such a continuation there doesnt seem to matter whos the president to be United States its the deep state the decides who our enemies are and how that they will be dealt with a. Ok because i do i cant the contrast is so great that ive never seen it from a candidate to a president in my lifetime go ahead michael. Well candidates get captured when they move from the campaign from their own voice however authentic or inauthentic it is and then they get a subservient into the imperial worldview of the Imperial City and the courtiers or the deep state if you want to call it that instead reshape their worldview and in many ways the over arching sensibility in washington today in terms of strategy is one of tremendous anxiety and insecurity now and so a grandstanding strategy a grandstanding strategy that looks like its doing things that looks aggressive like the war on isis its all a wonderful kind of demonstration and display the u. S. Is not going to risk a big war with either china or russia but it will grandstand hence the ten thousand or so barrett fifty caliber sniper rifles to ukraine is grandstanding the same with rocket man in north korea its a way of the u. S. Boasting forcefully but what i would bring home i think is the contrast between forceful boasting of trump and the very much more successful forceful boasting of Teddy Roosevelt and the difference is that Teddy Roosevelt was announcing americas debut on the world stage and america had forty percent of the worlds manufacturing today its absolutely the opposite in terms of trends and direction ok let me go to Christopher Christopher year in iraq war veteran i mean if i could just ask you personally i mean it seems like we have a continuation of this mentality of empire in i mean for iraq its been a disaster for afghanistan its always a disaster but and you know and whats happening in syria hear it but we dont seem to learn any lessons here you would there do you see that what the problem is here. Right i think theres a few different issues i want to try to address as many as i can i think that were omitting several Different Things here were overlooking several Different Things for one i think the president s actually moving away from nation building were trying to get for example the Iraqi Security forces and the iraqi militarys had significant gains against isis weve been trying to empower them to take the reins and to be able to do that kind of fighting themselves weve also admitted the fact that weve decimated the leadership of isis weve kept them in a constant state of confusion weve killed the some of bin laden theres several strategic victories that have occurred along the way we also for getting the u. S. Military provide significant foreign aid to our allies we still provide a blanket of security across europe were protecting south korea weve been in a Global Leadership role for decades and those kinds it is very focused there is no let me trying to put a United States that may be trying to assist me to intervene here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on washingtons new Defense Strategy stay with our. You know one of the things we saw in this entire Campaign Leading up to trump selection was very little discussion of the facts nobody said look you know you may be the smartest person in the world in your area of cheating people in the Real Estate Market but when it comes to actually understand economics you have no background i think any you know good economists could possibly have won that election. The press played and the attention to that. Kentucky. Lawyer says. You could be very sure you. A coma and he said he was almost no coal mines left. Good jobs are gone. And it was a lot of these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. I remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever have to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and its happening its happening. Welcome back to cross talk were all things are considered im peter lobo to remind you were discussing washingtons new Defense Strategy. Ok let me go back to philip and percival right before we went to the red cross who is talking about our alliance as well you know alliances are a transmission belt for war weve seen this historically and im thinking of the situation that the United States is facing with its nato ally turkey and turkey is a legally invaded syria and where you know all of the entanglements that the u. S. Has found itself there with the kurds and whatnot and its nato ally here i mean and then we had not too long ago we had a russian jet that was shot down by the turks then you have you know you know you have this article five kick in here it seems to me the United States is very dangerously involved in a potential war that it doesnt want to fight and then we can bring up the issue of north and south korea you know what theyre talking thats a good start isnt it and then we have this bluster coming out of washington that maybe its not enough i mean the South Koreans probably know best about their defense than anyone else go ahead philip. Yeah well i have i have to agree with the your premise which is essentially that americas alliances have in many ways outlived their usefulness the. Russia does not threaten the United States theres not really threaten Eastern Europe it has a sphere of influence like every other country but this does not amount to a threat and nato is dangerous in a way because nato could very much involve the United States in a shooting war where it doesnt want to be in it. And i would i would comment on the situation between turkey and syria turkey is indeed attacking syria but turkey has an interest in syria the terrorism problem and the kurdish problem for turks is very real the united state is illegally in syria so the United States shouldnt be throwing stones at at anyone when it comes to the situation currently in syria and this whole concept of a of a thirty thousand man border guard is just totally ridiculous the turks let it happen the syrians will either happen and then the iraqis wont even let it happen well you know michael you mentioned ukraine earlier here i mean what explain because i dont understand it what is in the National Interest of the United States of america to be giving offensive weapons to ukraine when we know and our viewers that have been watching crosslike over the years know the importance of the minsk accord ok its not perfect but its certainly slowed things down cooled things down now we have legislation that is not reported in western media that the ukrainians have walked away from it unilaterally and now theyre very happily taking offensive arms we have to be honest here the prospect of a ukrainian russian war is very real folks its very real but you wouldnt know that and you would know that by reading magazines report go ahead michael the u. S. That its alliances both nato and its key alliances in east asia in the western pacific are like lifelines to americas claim to germany so it is to american advantage to stir the pot in Eastern Europe and to create a situation where you know poor. Helpless ukraine is being threatened with with deep violence by you know this is an old metaphor going back to world war one frankly in the germans in belgium and its a way for the u. S. To maintain the saliency of its position in europe which it no longer has economically and it in the instance of good relations with russia would would not exist in in the strategic sense but because european states especially germany are unwilling to. Spend the money they need to on defense to do it themselves which they could easily easily then the u. S. By creating yes i mean the germans could simply double their Defense Budget and it would be no larger percentage of their g. N. P. Than it was during the cold war but the key here is that the u. S. Is able to have it both ways its able to assemble a kind of crisis in which the u. S. Is the absolutely essential partner and its leadership is on question and frankly it can do that because of the general disinterest by germany in stepping up to taking over the leadership role in europe when it comes to Strategic Issues the u. S. Is doing the same thing in asia with japan and japan is willing to be there as the side. Of the u. S. Under all circumstances and therefore the us is playing the same game using the fruits of its absolute victory over germany and japan in World War Two to continue what will increasingly be the fiction of us world power in the future not not tomorrow but but fifteen years from now ok chris around im michael brings up a very good point i mean if you look at the g. D. P. Of the European Union is vast ok. D. Equals the United States and japan certainly isnt a poor country by any standard south korea is what for its size and population is remarkably successful and very rich by the way why cant they just carry their load for their own security just because what did what does the us get out of it i mean if something happened to the us you think everyones going to come to the us is aid from europe and south korea and japan i dont think so why would they go ahead. I think thats a great point i think President Trump is challenge to nato and europe to put more Financial Resources into their own defense and i think that would be a thing that we should be supporting but i want to go back a step i think were still continuing to emit many many different factors for example you know we sort of discuss the u. S. In this sort of dystopian light and the tone in this this vision people want to come to the United States people are risking their lives to try and theyre dying trying to get out of places like north korea where their governments and their the way they behave is absolutely zero freedom no freedom of the press extremely dystopian and in the case of iran you have an entire government that stacked with clergy thats frankly extremely. Quickly and i mean if youre a second you know but that has nothing to do with the defense of the United States youre talking about values and i suppose thats all fine but has nothing to do about protecting the solver and country of the United States the state department should deal with these other issues here ok i mean im im serious i mean it sounds nice but it has nothing to do with defense here let me go to philip here you know philip i was doing a little bit of research before this program you know i was looking at you know republican senator robert taft when nato was started and he was he was saying you know why should we get involved in this alliance because then we lose the right to declare war were giving it over to an organization then you had Mike Mansfield and he in the one nine hundred seventy s. Under the nixon ford administrations he was heavily lobbying for ending american presence in europe because the war has been over there rich they can take care of themselves the reason why im bringing up this boring history for everyone is that where is the debate in the public in the media about what is being said in madison this report theres almost none i mean i read a lot of the reviews its just well he this is what he said but theres no theres no distilling of what hes talking about it just passes it on is that these people are just in the media and dont question anything that is being written we are questioning it honestly on this program go ahead philip. Yeah its quite astonishing i mean the stories the stories on on this paper and on the comments by matt has disappeared within forty eight hours or hardly covered at all and yet this is as i said in the beginning this is a formula for off and this is a formula for the United States to exercise its leadership by military offensive and this is quite outrageous and also the question that way we havent had one thing that happens again states that dont have them chris or you want to jump in there go ahead sorry christopher jump in there is where is worse where is philip worse russia north korea missile testing in north korea threatening. And making these aggressive stances does russia support north koreas continued Nuclear Proliferation and i can watching i cant identify and i can answer that question very clearly christopher if you had watched the proceedings that the United Nations Security Council when there was a vote against north korea in which china and russia did participate and did vote for the sanction they also offered in alternative a freeze for a freeze in a go back you can watch it its on you tube its very thoughtful its very thorough but you had all of the other countries saying north korea bad ok well im sorry thats not very intellectual its not very helpful ok so i would answer you chris but russia and china have been extremely helpful in trying to diffuse those tensions but it doesnt get any coverage in the media because thats not what people want to hear go ahead christopher. You know what should be covered i mean thats a fair point there should be more coverage but you look at these these Oil Transfers that china is in a position to really do a lot more of i think theres a lot of opportunity and a lot of optimism christopher to get someone who does this to United States sit down with the North Koreans and have a conversation whats so hard about doing that you could actually say we went the extra mile instead of this rocket man nonsense thats not helpful ok if the United States really wants to show its responsible in the world was it sit down and talk seriously if it doesnt like the deal walk away from it but at least you talked go ahead im just im just saying the obvious thats a fair point thats a fair point but i think i think we have a pro what we have a president that wants to see some results and i think unfortunately a lot of our goodwill and a lot of our diplomacy has had diminishing returns when you look at for example the iran deal and other things we were able to get a little bit of cooperation but we have is continued Nuclear Proliferation continued talk of aggression and the u. S. Is continuing to provide foreign aid to continue to fund our our allies in europe and these sorts of other things so i think those talks should happen and i believe the u. S. Is opening to talk to north korea but we need to see a sort of tone and center of cooperation and were continuing to see boasting of continued Nuclear Proliferation in the region and remember that offensive purity strategy thats our document for us i theres nothing in there that is overtly offensive it is a document that is reaffirming our perspective well building up the military i mean christopher liberating really youre right chris is written about the United States for the United States but the whole world is watching and and the reaction from a lot of capitals is this is a very aggressive in a continuation of an aggressive Foreign Policy the world does react to the most powerful country in the world are gentlemen im sorry weve run out of time many thanks to my guests in washington and in personal and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at the see you next time and remember crosstalk. Heres what people have been saying about rejected and i was actually just full on austin the only show i go out of my way to you know what it is that really packs a punch. Yampa is the john oliver of r t americans do the same we are apparently better than. C. People youve never heard of love redacted tonight my president of the world bank takes. Me seriously send us an email. What politicians to. Put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Some want to be rich. To going to press this is what before three of the more people. Im interested always in the water. Geysers financial survival. Housing bubble. Oh you mean theres a downside to artificial mortgage through dont get carried away thats concert. Welcome to all the Party Donald Trump has just marked his first year in office by overseeing debt and now the u. S. Government shutdown and while the partisan wrangling over the budget has temporarily been resolved underlying it is not just a million but a trillion dollar question of whether the United States will ever be able to bring its finances in order to discuss that im now joined by Laurence Kotlikoff a professor of economics of Boston University and i write in candidate in the two thousand and sixteen president ial elections but as a consequence good to talk to thank you very much great to be here with you now you were scathingly critical of mr trump both before and after his election so i think its safe to assume that you never expected him to be an outstandingly good president but a year in can you say fully say that he turned out to be an outstandingly bad one. You know i would say yes i think that in terms of how hes presenting the u. S. To the rest of the world its been a miserable miserable display of authoritarianism reeses. And a lack of real focus and understanding of what the country needs now. You can see this in the Health Care Area we had really a good battle with respect to the republicans proposing things that the country really doesnt want the country really once. Universal health care not fifty Million People uninsured and the republicans seem to not want that but the people do so thats just one example of many things that have gone wrong this year having read many of your articles i assume that you have generally very negative opinion of the american electoral system how it works. If you compare for example mr trump to lets say the Obama Administration which contributed a great deal to the American Government debt on substance do you think he so far has been really so much worse than the rest well doing nothing. Is not good either when it comes to fiscal policy because you have this true debt of the country which we call the fiscal gap which takes into account all the debts that are off the books and those are growing every year. Because the baby boom generation which is very large number is getting closer to collecting its benefits from pensions and health care and as it gets closer to the present value cost the cost in the presence of those future benefits gets larger so we have a debt thats growing around six trillion a year actually our fiscal gap is about two hundred trillion you said that that is you know because if thats not because the terms but. And it got worse under a bomb and it got a whole lot worse under bush so every administration for the last six decades has contributed to this problem but the situation is that is such that if you dont address it it just keeps growing on its own so youre faulting tom for not correcting somebody elses mistakes in fact the mistake is all the previous administrations but isnt that a bit of a high order for all theres only a few you have to you have to take the Economic Situation the fiscal situation as you find it in if youve got something that people left you well they did a bad job but you have to address it you cant just let things continue to get worse because the bills are getting bigger and bigger for our kids this is also the case in russia that you have a fiscal gap we measure that as one of the early studies weve done here at the Guidance Institute we measure the fiscal gap its not quite as big as a share of g. D. P. As it is in the u. S. But its quite substantial so it all unless you get on top of these problems. They get worse but you know very well that every time you want to get on top of major structural issues there are some you know temporary issues that come into play on some very clear focus and one such thing would be. The wrangle over at the budget that we saw in the American Senate i know that you. Long been critical of the american political system its partisanship the bending habits and i think all of that wasnt display in that argument do you think the primary issue though was money or was it Something Else lets say the political ambition i think both sides are trying to make political points. Up to a point they dont want to really shut down the government and lay off all these people who are working for the government its a very big work force so i think the. The democrats were trying to make a point that were standing up for immigration and for people that are have come to our country were more humanitarian republicans are trying to push the point that you have to have secure borders it seems like there should be a good compromise but. You know both sides are. Each others throats i mean trumps disposition is to fight as opposed to you know come to a compromise agreement but at the end i have to show that hes really in charge he has the need to say hes one what strikes me about this whole argument is the naked politics of it because both parties use the funding for polities policy is that they it really a pawn to get concessions on the issues that they disagree so nobody argues that the military and the Public Servants have to be paid but everybody is ok with making their salaries subject to political bargaining do the American People see that is a fair game. No i think the i think the public is very unhappy about this this is exactly what they dont like about politicians that they you know theres a sensible middle ground and. You do have people in the Democratic Party that are pretty far to the left and people to the pretty far to the right in the Republican Party and those two wings of the parties have been. Very dominant in determining who gets into congress and who becomes president so you know you have somebody in office right now whos six whos. Really appealing to the extreme right and president obama was i think more of a centrist but he was also kind of left of center and people i polo see are pretty far to the left so we dont have most of the public be represented who are much more in the middle thats why i tried to run for president because i felt that neither. Candidate that was coming forth was really focused on the middle ground and. Undoing and actually going to get anything accomplished in terms of real policy reform but you mention president obama as he also had hes own Government Shutdown and i think for a person who is not familiar with the american budgeting process its really difficult to understand why somebody who would. Sub the system in the way that would allow the government to leave paycheck to paycheck is that part of the of the checks and balances because here in russia we do have an issue of beth too much power invested in the executive but it seems to me that this is perhaps the the negative sides of the excess of checks and balances its not a good situation even you know the democrats have in the senate the ability to block legislation certain legislation with just forty percent of the senators and they have more than forty percent of the senators there are fifty eight percent for sorry about forty eight out of the hundred senators so they have a more than. Forty percent of block theres a rule in the senate that you can block certain kinds of rules laws with more than forty percent. Vote so you know how that law came into being is kind of a historical curiosity it wasnt in the its not in the constitution so you know i think both parties feel that they should if theyre out of power they should still have some power and maybe its you know a good thing but anyway the democrats are trying to exercise this ability to have some influence because otherwise theyre just sitting there back you know just complaining for four years and then i mean exercising some influence at the expense of the military and the you know your park service as a setter i mean thats not they know its not a very you know its not a noble way out of the politics its not necessarily in their interest to try and use that power for a much so they stop the government for a couple days but in the end they folded because if exactly what youre saying which is that this is not a good use of power its not productive to say hey the military in order to protect Illegal Immigrants are going to be speaking about the Illegal Immigrants or rather children her abroad illegally or state illegally in the United States. Were talking about eight. Hundred thousand people there at this point can the American Economy afford to lose them because i would assume that many of them would be entering the labor force and theyre speaking english why do you think trump doesnt see the practicality of making money over those of those people for the economy. I think he probably does see that taking children or people who grew up here has as children there was no fault of theirs that they were brought to the u. S. And then throwing them out eight hundred. Eight hundred thousand is you referring to. That would be very unjust and unfair but we also have another ten or so million. Adult Illegal Immigrants who work in the u. S. For quite a while and the idea of acts of deporting them is also something that really you know some people want to do that but many people in the u. S. And myself included say that if youre here you should you know you made it you got through the hurdles of getting into the country illegally or whatever. If youve been here and you dont have a criminal record youre contributing to the country you should be allowed to stay and then we should secure the border so that we dont have this as an ongoing problem and you know making at moral or social argument here are now asking for an economic question because from what i understand the American Economy now experiences full employment if your child wants to give it an additional push you would need labor force in the country these people are here because they can make a Better Living and theyre there contributing to the economy so yeah if they let if they were thrown out some americans would you know take their place and have a higher Living Standard but i think. I think the moral of the economic arguments both tend to say lets leave them here lets and i think the democrats strategy would be better if they just said look this guys youre in charge you make the decisions and well discuss what you did if you want to throw out a million other Million People and cause all that human suffering and misery and thats a very human inhumane thing to do at this point. You know well talk about it in the next election so i think. You know theyre really pretty much in charge even the senate can block things a little bit but the democrats but not much politically its not going to work to keep the Government Shutdown its just not a Strong Enough lever to try and get the republicans to do what you may enjoy and economically rational having. Covered tom for a while i think it always comes down to a money issue for him whether it is lets say the middle east or any other. Policy issue as far as you know has anyone done any assets so far on how much money it would cost to the American Economy if you deport all all those people well its probably about five percent of the workforce were talking about. A million Illegal Immigrants if you threw them all out of the country. Yeah it would have a big impact in the short run over time the growth rate of the economy would probably come back to work or otherwise i think its you know id like to say its. That the economic argument would carry sway with him but hes looking at people that are not his same color you have to realize this person is racist at a very deep level so for him hed say well probably take the cost of throwing out a lot of a Million People that dont look like me and like me and come from places that he things are miserable bicycles a cafe have to take a very short break now but to be back in just a few moments. That was pretty good. You. Remove the last. Word so well move and we dont think we will all soon will but you know one of the things from up in the bush is that so. Many think you. Can do to the. Scouts. You but you could still be you know its easy easy to reason to get. The secret of the irish you can you can go to pull you up and you tell us what you did to us told. This president. Everybody im Stephen Baldwin just hollywood guy. Proud american first of all im just george bush and honored to see this is my buddy max the. Amos financial guru well shes a little bit different. Though no one knows up with all the drama happening in our country and im hitting the road to have some fun meet Everyday Americans the moment and hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the Great American pill which. Welcome back to well to part with Laurence Kotlikoff a professor of economics at Boston University professor kotlikoff we were discussing the. Difficulties with funding just before the break and child for his part accused democrats of trying to steal the limelight from his much vaunted tax bill and i get it from your writing that times bragging about how good the tax bill is is not entirely unfounded correct me if im wrong but your cultivation showed that it is likely to expand the economy and real wages by about five percent over time there are lots of people who are very critical of that bill of what do you like about it well i think to begin with we should realize that it didnt start with its not even clear the trump understands the bill or the economics underlying it the bill actually was kind of half a democratic proposal to have a republican proposal in a sense a sense that the business tax part was partly designed by democrat leaning. Academic economists but anyway over time this pretty good tax reform proposal which was initially called the better way plan evolved into the tax cut and jobs act which i give it about a b. Minus as a professor for tax reform its not something his was also its not bad for trump that its not better for his this administration but its. Anyway what its going to do is increase the incentive for companies to invest in the u. S. For American Companies not to leave the u. S. And i think thats going to lead to more capital staying in the u. S. And coming into the u. S. And higher real wages and we were. Out of high relative to other countries with respect to our incentives to invest in the u. S. So thats good the the personal tax reforms are basically kind of revenue neutral and make some sense there are some. Decision here to go after states taxpayers in states that didnt vote for trump blue states as opposed to red states so thats pretty mean and nasty and may undermine Public Education the way it was set up. But the. The basic story is this is a you know quasi i. D. s and some i decent reform its going to help the economy but it doesnt. Produced in our simulations we actually have a were simulating this tax reform in what we call the global gaidar model a model we developed here the guider institute with russian economists and directing this team over the last three years so the russian a russian simulation model if you like was used to help pass this refinery you know given the current political context and im not sure that russian experience ease would be paid what would be there might have a chance in the washing that its solid economics and its based on modeling methodology that was developed in the u. S. And myself and i hope we do long be labeled as some sort of malicious interference but this all started before trump was even on the radar you also pointed out that the bill would not address the projected explosion in the American Government debt relative to g. D. P. From seventy seven percent now to one hundred fifty percent in two thousand and fifty and i think your partially explains where would that come from but can you elaborate a little bit more on that so we have you know the true debt which we call the fiscal gap because it incorporates all the off the books liabilities for example paying for my Social Security benefits im now sixty seven of these collecting starting at seventy well thats a true obligation of the federal governments not recorded as official debt but its its has to be paid same with my Health Care Benefits from the government so unless you start dealing with these this problem the country is going to fall off the cliff fiscally speaking and were were bankrupt given our current policy or current policies a path to bankruptcy sky high tax rates to an economy thats im going to grow and i think you see signs of this in so far as its very hard to fund many things in our government like basic research there are cutbacks because the country. Hes already understanding that the politicians at the governments broke that it cant. And so we need to really a major tax increase we didnt need a policy thats revenue neutral which is what i. Think we have based on the simulations weve done with the global gaidar model we needed something would significantly raise revenues and we also need to cut spending so we need to have reforms that fix. In the spending reforms have to come through fixing our Pension System fixing our health care says system so everybodys covered but we dont go broke i think Everybody Knows about the American Government debt and yet lots of foreigners are still eagerly investing into American Securities and bonds doesnt that mean that at the end of the day whatever are the obligations of the American Government be its economic commitments they will be bankrolled by a by the foreigners because everybody has a stake in not letting them merican economy go bankrupt well i think i think the market the traders out there that are setting the Interest Rate on long Term Government bonds which is really what youre referring to which is that if things were so bad why would we be able to borrow at such a low long term rate i think those traders dont. Either that i dont think they understand all the off the book liabilities or they do understand those liabilities they understand were bankrupt but they think the other traders dont understand it so that we have this kind of curious. Equilibrium in the market where everybody is kind of trading on the basis of everybody else getting it wrong or at least not trading because these traders. They can lose their jobs if they make a move that is based on the reality but the other traders dont come along if you lose money by yourself you can still keep your job but if you take a position where you you know we really base it on the underlying realities and nobody else comes along in the market then you lose in the marketplace and then you lose your job you know its not a rational what im saying is that the marketplace is not rational but over time people will get the truth it will it will come out and we will see the market crash that on purpose is crash and he discussed irrational policy and policy its all fine and have a clean life i mean not only in washington but also more broadly i want anybody economics doesnt you know the underlying reality is that some users have to pay my my benefits you know and its his are not making enough money to do it thats the basic game over problem here we face and the American Economy is not. Isolated i mean its a i think its the unique economy in the sounds of how much exposure for and there is have to and i wonder if the real hitch here is that while the United States is preaching liberal economics and fair market at the end of the day it managed to create the conditions for itself when it is not operating within the frame Market Conditions because everybody is treating the United States the American Economy as something. Unique partially because of the value of the role of the dollar as the top and i think its really the role the dollar helps you. You know think that well gee the if the us isnt bad fiscal shape it can print a lot of money and the rest of the world will keep taking it but theres a limit to that you know theres a limit to how much many countries are gotten into trouble in the past and printed money to try and pay for their bills but ultimately obviously its too to inflation and we saw this with the british pound you know the British Empire was dominant and at some point. It became less dominant broke up and then the pal no it was no longer the currency of the world dominating currency if you look at the long term projections again coming from this really terrific guide our model that. Is a global model so you have all the demographic changes and all the regions of the world that were seventy regions in the world all the fiscal policies if you simulate. The rest of the world catching up in terms of productivity with the u. S. In this framework you see that over time the u. S. Is going to become a minor player in the World Economy because its going to be dominated and this is very interesting by china by india but also by the middle east and Subsaharan Africa if those regions are do catch up in terms of productivity levels and thats a very big if but you see at the end of the century that the biggest region in the world economically speaking is not china or india its actually Subsaharan Africa. And then its india and then its middle east and then its china and the u. S. Is down at about five percent of world g. D. P. From about sixteen percent now so the long run picture is one of the us. Becoming like germany to the World Economy and thats driven by you know very interesting the fact is that the un is projecting a population explosion in terms of the World Population mostly concentrated in Subsaharan Africa in the middle east and this is going to produce a an increase in population of the world by one china in the next twenty years and by three chinas over the course of the century so all these factors are going to go through time i agree with you its not going to be tomorrow but through time people are going to wake up to the fact that the u. S. Is in very bad fiscal shape that its Economic Dominance is an eval and evidently going to decline just china alone is going to overtake the u. S. Has got a bigger g. D. P. Right now than the u. S. And i think you made several attempts to get into the white house and to try to change the system from within and you have very detailed proposals that took me a whole evening just to understand. Simple ones well i mean they they are very detailed and you know it takes. Not only time but i think it takes effort to understand what youre talking about and i think todays politics especially in the United States seems to favor people who offer very simple and sometimes very Dramatic Solutions does it mean that people like yourself. Will always be poised to lose to some demagogues who have politically benefiting by the fiscally unsubstantiated policies i think its very difficult to deal with a democrat demagogue who demagogues. Method of is to find somebody to blame and say well its the immigrants who are china no matter what the facts or. That are causing our country not to grow in terms of Living Standard at the radio used to grow and it requires somebody to say well look you know the facts are different you know one of the things we saw in this entire Campaign Leading up to trump selection was very little discussion of the facts the politicians were just exchanging insults with each other from was very good at that but nobody said look you know you may be the smartest person in the world in your area of cheating people in the Real Estate Market but when it comes to actually understand economics you have no background but i dont want to say it is actually not at all useful was the campaign truly exceptional because i think there is always an element of that regardless of whether its a president ial campaign a lets say congressional race there seems to be a lesser demand for the details political inflate is very entertaining. And having somebody like obama whos a great speaker and just very inspirational is thats attractive. But theres also something thats attractive which is having somebody actually knows whats wrong and how to fix it im not saying im the only one whos wrong but i think any you know a good economist could possibly have won that election had the press paid and attention to that person so our situation is that yes praise attention to people who seem interested and exciting enough for the people and this is ultimately a question of how you run a democracy and what is a democracy i mean its a very pretty look at marathon and in france i mean you know does he have the. Hes a very attractive person physically no i think hes a good speaker from what i gather but hes not. You know he basically got elected by saying the Political Parties are bankrupt we need some real change and real analysis somebody who actually thinking more deeply about how to fix things a new direction and lets go that was the name of his party. I think had the press spent some attention given some attention in my campaign its possible that i could have taken off like work on the in in france you know maybe not maybe maybe she said you know maybe the public would not be interested in somebody whos clearly looks like an academic and sounds like an academic and you when i tried once again that same two thousand and twenty well you know its under the right circumstances possibly and the problem is theres a kind of what we call a catch twenty two would emerge its a you know its its. You know if the press had paid attention i would have gotten a lot of Campaign Contributions and then i would have been viewed as a wobble kind of heat and got more attention so. But they said well you dont have any money and i said well dont have any money because youre all writing about the so thats what we mean by catch twenty two well as a consequence we have to leave it there i really appreciate your being on our program and to our viewers please keep the conversation going on our social media pages and i hope to see you again same place same time here on worlds apart. Global war hawk still a view on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chickenhawk forcing you to fight the battles they dont want. To do socks credit tell you that every gossip and tabloid bias files a little one day. Off of advertising telling you are not cool enough and wants to buy their product. All the hawks that we along the border will watch want. I. Look at that very. Pleased. With. The. Oh. I. Thought. I was. The turkish president expands what im for calls his anti terror operation against kurds in syria making direct confrontation risking direct confrontation with u. S. Forces. Being left out in the cold clean russian athletes looks set to be banned from the winter games after limping cheats release a draft list of those eligible to compete and the gory details from the head online after shooting to moscow murders his flatmate and commit suicide our reporter investigates what turned a promising student into a cold blooded killer. Hello there good morning youre watching r. T. International this is they were just on i to clock here in moscow now our top story this hour the turkish president has announced a plan to extend the countrys military operation against Kurdish Forces in syria which ankara calls terrorists the fight moved to positions held by u. S. Backed kurdish troops in the town of each and could lead to direct confrontation with american troops thought to be stationed there. Of. The operation weve launched remember all of branch to cleanse africa of terrorists successfully underway starting from members we will continue for when we games which will be much closer along our borders and we will cleanse our region quickly of the struggle. So lets have a closer look then who influences what in the areas in the region this is the border between turkey and syria with the areas in yellow there held by Kurdish Militias in the west t. You can see the region where the Turkish Operation originally began but to the east of that in green there are rebel groups backed by turkey both will now push further east towards man beach heres how the operation has unraveled so far. I dont think they know what theyre. Trying to. Look at sex in our land theyre blaming us. We have to sleep in the cellar because of the bombs we are free to go out on the streets what do they want from us well now they should stay in beers. On matter how many planes and missiles they send this on leaving do what you dont want. But were hearing from the turkish president is that he will now extend his military operation in Northern Syria to include the town of mann bridge now once the Turkish Military moves into man bridge this could potentially put the turkish army in direct conflict with the forces belonging to a major turkish nato ally namely the United States washington is known to have some two thousand special forces on the ground in syria and while none of them off or to be in the afrin area they are deployed amongst various kurdish enclave set includes the town of man bridge now man bridge is controlled by u. S. Backed kurdish syrian fighters at the same time we are hearing from the turkish president that more than two hundred and fifty syrian kurds as well as Islamic State fighters have been killed by the turkish army and allied forces in the past few days these figures are being disputed by the kurdish side who is also accusing and career of civilian casualties this despite the fact that we are hearing some to a key that they are trying to avoid civilian deaths as far. As possible now the american President Donald Trump has called for and is urging a deescalation and a limit in the military operation that and queen is conducting in Northern Syria it is now the sixth day since the Turkish Military moved across the border and no doubt in the coming hours and days the situation on the ground will only intensify our middle east correspondent paula slater well International Relations professor hussein back she told us he and the u. S. Are on a collision course in syria the expect fish and world that turkey in a very short period controlled area. Stop. Just want to go to many beach and get much more control of the area the turkish presence. Another level of confrontation we have regional conflict on the one hand but also alliance conflict. To natal cancer is the american side was going on about turkey is not going to expand the operation this is somehow. A warning by the americans for the turkish president the confrontation between turkey and the sense of america is getting more and more likely. Well the conflict in Northern Syria is already spilling over the border into turkey several missiles hit the turkish town of killis on wednesday killing two people and injuring a dozen more a mosque and a residential building with damage to local Officials Say the rockets were fired from a friend but the fight has also gone further with groups of turkish and Kurdish People clashing in europe during demonstrations over anchors operations in syria. I. I i. I. I i. I was. I i was. I i. Know a pakistani doctor who turned out to be one of the key figures in finding Osama Bin Laden face the rest of his life in jail pakistans authorities arrested him soon after the u. S. Operation in may of twenty eleven on allegations of helping militants to u. S. Presence of promise to release him but its now been seventy is america has the story. You can argue dr Shaquille Afridi helped catch the centurys most wanted man the man who did this. Regular security. Guard. Sama bin laden you can also argue he was a traitor and a fraud it all depends on where you are from the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama Bin Laden the leader of al qaeda tonight we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome gratitude though has its limits dr afridi set up a Fake Vaccination Program in the area bin laden was hiding in in order to collect his familys d. N. A. And give the cia proof he was there clever shortly after bin laden was eliminated dr afridi was arrested by pakistani intelligence and sentenced to thirty three years here. In. Two thousand and eleven of being money to the militants of that. He was assisting in medical term that he was making some. News a hospital i met him in. In june and he said that i am innocent and the charges they are totally illegal dr afridi was first accused of aiding local militants and then of murdering a patient though how fair those charges is debatable a bomber tried and failed to get him out donald trump well trump is trump do you you think. Yes i do i think i would get them out in two minutes i would tell them let them out and im sure theyd let them out it didnt fly it even upset the pakistanis a little being threatened with blackmail its been almost two years since trump made his both stand nothing the man who helped catch some of bin v i call of terrorism is rotting away in jail we believe dr afridi has been unjustly imprisoned and have clearly communicated our position to pakistan on dr afridis case both in public and in private and the us well they bring it up once in a while thats what gratitude is worth nowadays it was more ghastly have we spoke to the former cia officer Philip Giraldi he doesnt see washington making any real effort to free the dr. I was in the Intelligence Officer when people are caught spying for another country. That country does not like to let them free so its its actually something that trump did not understand if the pakistanis. Enter into some kind of discussion and trump feels that he can be generous or or do something that world will enable this man to get free then he might do it but i dont know what that would be i dont know what the circumstances would be but there are already having serious discussions about the the money that the United States gives the pakistan the United States has been suspending some of that money and not giving it to them so the pakistanis are not are not interested in doing any favors for washington i think that is very clear. Now another needs to be russia or is expected to be dealt another shattering blow just weeks before the Winter Olympics get underway in south korea the International Olympic committee will publish an updated list of banned athletes preventing many youve never failed to do contest from competing at the games they havent given a specific reason but fanatic their integrity saying values left could be part of their investigations into doping thomas buffy icy president also seemed to suggest that russia was being made an example of. The i. O. C. Wanted to give clean russian athletes the opportunity to participate and give a young new generation of clean russian athletes the opportunity to be at the Olympic Games and be ambassadors for a new clean russian sport well among those banned are russias Winter Sports stars and multiple unpick champions like by athlete anton should pull in and also the speed skater victor on both of never tested positive for banned substances in total the draft list will reduce the number of eligible athletes for the winter games by over one hundred the lympics in pyongyang would have been there first the final version of the list will be released by the i. O. C. On saturday but is already drawing much condemnation well a number of international fleets as well as national lim pick chiefs have criticised the guilty by Association Technique being needed by the i. O. C. Bulgarias federation says those found guilty must be punished but the measures taken against team russia are politically motivated one french biathlete also said he believes the finger is being unfairly pointed at the whole country we spoke exclusively to the swedish ice hockey player and discuss and the canadian coach Scott Mcpherson for their views on clean russian athletes being sidelined. I think its awful i think russia would go with the best team because they have the best hockey players outside the show its going to be sad for the taller men but the best russian is not tom i think they have to be able to do it a little earlier so they arent affected just like three four weeks before the olympics so its a big might think its somewhat misguided in that i think most of the players on the Russian Olympic Team or the athletes from russia team that are going to be in korea they werent even in the last olympics Everybody Knows who will you call choke is Everybody Knows who you know the great figure skaters are so at the end of the day you know if the russians win in hockey or if an individual figure skater or somebody wins they know who they are and everyone knows who they are in they appreciate them as athletes in the hard work and sacrifice that theyve made to be able to compete at the olympic club the players that are on the russian team are guys that we played against from the time we were little kids we know that theyre clean like you i mean its really unfortunately politics seems to be slipping into athletics next really not that. I also get reaction from the president of the French Federation of ice sports who told us that the lympics is about uniting people not politics. Sports should not be used as a tool for politicians to game should be a celebration for the sporting world and for the athletes who work so hard at this event nothing wrong sport to do night people that person should be sanctioned if the allegations were proven as anyone should but there is no country that has never been guilty of doing the north americans in lecturing the rest of the world we havent forgotten where Lance Armstrong came from open johnson up off of. The german judges caused a trial in bavaria through removing a crucifix from his courtroom for medicine for an Asylum Seeker the afghan man is suspected of threatening to kill a fellow countryman for converting to christianity our europe correspondent peter all of a has been following the trial. This judge in the Bavarian Alps has found himself in the eye of a storm thats after he ordered that a crucifix be removed from his courtroom during the trial of an afghan asylum up look and accused of trying to kill another afghan who convert to christianity its a move thats called for in the strongly catholic state as well as in german tabloid media the judge says he made the move in order to show religious tolerance how can i persuade the defendant to move away from his beliefs if things jihad exists between christians and muslims and so i didnt think it wise to condemn him under the cross i do not care if there is a cross or not when the judge addressed this issue in court i didnt truly understand the problem judge myths bosses in the Bavarian Ministry of justice say this should never have been an issue in the first place. The presence of crosses in courtrooms does not prevent the state from up holding religious and ideological neutrality. Religious rights for christine converts in germany is a hot issue particularly in places like mice but the toll on the border with austria is where many refugees and migrants either arrived or at least passed through in twenty fifteen and the move by judge schmidt has prompted a ferocious backlash on social media dear baron people this is a slap in the face of all christians do you still want to trample on your christian will lose the right judges who live near to a loss for words such an irony in the trial of afghan islamists judge class youre against me it takes crust offense from the war of the courtroom. The sophisticated islamization in this country continues judged. You insane these judges and judiciary are so shady and they make judgments not in the name of the people such a failure this story comes as the trial of a different failed asylum applicant from afghanistan is underway in a nearby town in southern germany in that case a thirty eight year old woman was brutally stabbed to death in front of her small children the prosecution say that the motive behind the killing was that she had converted to christianity the trial is expected to continue for several more days peter all over. Now the u. S. President is on his way to switzerland at the moment to take part in the program over this Economic Forum and see the surprise of many at the Luxury Resort donald trump is going to promote his famous mantra America First u. S. Transportation secretary has given his response to those questioning from troll that devils. America first is a continuation of the american affirmation of american exceptionalism so i dont think well i think this you know all these questions are why the president is coming and again i think all of us should feel very flattered that he has chosen this as a forum. For those that dont want to listen to him you can they can leave you know this is part of what discourse and discussion is all about. But as you can see from these pictures not everybody is happy because earlier this week thousands of people marched in the streets if youre ignorant trumps visit to switzerland and the entire gathering too in davos the u. S. President is expected next the huge protests in davos itself which was called for this thursday despite a ban from local authorities. A student in moscow has shared the gruesome details of him murdering and raping his flatmate online he then committed suicide correspondent Elizabeth Franco went to the house the couple lived in to try and find out what turned a promising student into a cold blooded killer. This is the area where art and its yacht rented their flat together the better of moscow very close today and the universities where they study they seem to have everything to enjoy their lives in the capital. The students were once in a relationship but after breaking up they continued to share a flat in the building right there it turned out to be unbearable for art theo. To leave thats the right entrance they lived on the ground floor and one social media post describe everything he did behind these walls on one horrifying winter night. It was late art he had been drinking when to tiana and her to room he started punching her the details of what was happening there in the next few hours are far too grisly to go into in this report but it included stabbing and rape and necrophilia. After what everyone i guess would call a psychotic frenzy arturo hanged himself this is the entrance to their flat with a Police Notice but the shouldnt be the most challenging investigation for the authorities the couples whole lives were out there on their social media accounts for everyone to see and art films very long suicide note that he posted on his account was a full description of what happened that night where he explained his motivation. This is a very small section of the building with very few apartments and none of the neighbors here agreed to talk to us i was made for this future. But once the curator guard outside agreed to share some details will you still with this most people sweep the. Little bit this looks as though youre looking for some oh this is so much children look at the people in the beautiful. For this because. Jealousy and rage have often led to kwames of passion weve seen it in movies read about it in books but seldom before have we experienced it so vividly thanks to the killer of the victims of sessions with social media. The pensions draft of the upcoming Us Nuclear Policy review has been late this review will set the role and the strategy of the country regarding this issue and it does seem that the u. S. Is making perhaps reversal from the need to rise asian to one expanding its Nuclear Capability before that america place the Nuclear Weapon option either last resort now it is thought they will be easy submarine missiles will be configured to be Nuclear Capable a nuclear test could be regime to the modernization of americas arsenal will add more Nuclear Weapons with smaller explosive power but the former head of the National Nuclear security has warned that its far more new than the agency can afford. We are working pretty much at full capacity weve never done more than one Life Extension Program at a time since the end of the cold war were now doing essentially for well this late review has been criticized as being dangerous especially after traumas twitter battle with the north Korean Leader it was a response to claims new years day speech where he stated that the Nuclear Button on his desk was bigger than kims im trying to respond to that saying that sorry that he has a bigger one and a more powerful Nuclear Button. There making russia reenter the enemy again its almost like were back in the old mccarthy era like the old cold war its crazy to let this start a new arms race in russia because you know. Your original atomic bomb was enough to wipe out a whole city what are called why do we need new Nuclear Technology in the Old Technology is a dreadful enough that it cant be used. So that brings you up to date thats how things are looking so far this morning in r. T. Were back again at the top of the hour. Heres what people have been saying about redacted in the recession and its full on awesome the only show i go out of my way to find you know what it is that really packs a punch. Yampa is the john oliver of marty americans do the same we are apparently better than to see people youve never heard of love back to the night my president of the world bank so take. Me seriously send us an email. What politicians do. Put themselves on the line they get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Or some want. To go right for the so what about for three of the more people. Im interested in the waters about how. This should. Hey everybody im Stephen Baldwin gosh tast hollywood guy will suspect every proud american first of all understood George Washington and r. V. To suggest this is my buddy max famous financial guru and well just a little bit different ive got a. Good handle on the inner windows up with all the drama happening in our country im shooting the good have to meet Everyday Americans. And look for the star to bridge the gap that is the Great American people which. Led me to. Look. At how to really negotiate that memory over and over and over again. And again water flying in screaming. This summer after i turned eight. When ever really knew what to expect from. During a particularly bad swing she went through some really desperate things there and she put us all in the bronco and to the spread drive down of the river. Before we got to the river she was just purely robotic. She decided it was time for all of us to die. My memories of that moment were really blocking light. Im not sure that i ever really met my mom again after. Strange story out of florida this morning where the mother of three children drove into the ocean off of daytona beach. The pregnant mom spoke of the demons before driving into the atlantic. Police say theyve never seen anything like this. The tiny city of newburgh new york is trying to come to grips with the deaths of three Young Children who died when their mother drove them into the hudson river among the victims are two year old lance pierre and his a loving month old sister caps we should take nothing for granted not our loves nor our lives our families or friends even a sanity one minute all is well the next were plunged into darkness unable to process what is real and what is mercurys. Fortum stringin realized this old too young of the summer after i turned eight she should not be in line and she knows it was the moment. That shattered trust. How do. You know how do you know how to trust anybody after that. Forced to confront a mystery beyond our comprehension she spent decades haunted in search of answers in pursuit of peace when Something Like killing all six of her children. Made sense enough to put the kids in the bronco and drive into the river i see it. Gravels it again water flying and kids screaming and somehow she managed to dig it up to back out of that. And thats an incredible victory for somebody in that state of mind in other other mothers dont win that battle. Autumns mom did eventually die by suicide alone on a country tony steph and was now were done with. Children. Im laying in bed at night in my room. Listening to a houseful of morning. Just shattered the whole family just shattered the children chattered me it has become so commonplace these irrational acts and horrific deeds that weve almost become numb to it weve seen them in schools and public spaces in homes and churches. Over the news try as we might to understand them we cant try as we might to ignore them they call to us still we call the paramedics. They tried the roughly the reviver. Outside their about the station but. Because your poor body was cold its two thousand and four and the downings world has just been shattered his daughter a victim of an unimaginable act of violence but it was how this eleven Year Old Girl died the truly horrified the world how cats candace hanged herself when canisters star and we just we asked ourselves how could we not know she was than unhappy the downings didnt realize it at the time of course but her case was not a rare event no candace was far from alone she started on this drug somewhere around january and these things make you unafraid they make you do things you wouldnt do normally they make you able to put a rope around your neck and hang yourself. They were still dizzy from death traumatized and broken when they solve the mystery the drugs responsible they say a cold s s r is and theyre among the best selling drugs in the world s s r is better known as antidepressants these are some symptoms of the primary psychiatric drugs like assess our eyes have been defended with religious zeal by their believes and damned by others as some of the most dangerous drugs on the planet distinguishing truth from fiction has been a challenge and this is placed the public in the an enviable position of deconstructing the scientific and medical dog on their own in the midst of a thirty years social experiment as director of the National Institutes of Mental Health thomas insel has been at the center of a storm of contradictions about the use of these drugs so i think we have to be very humble about this right now because weve often been so selfcongratulatory because we have after all many people feel made great strides. The numbers dont really support that dr insoles candor is sure to shock and upset many on all sides of the debate the word failure is one few have dad to utter fundamentally why we failed here why has the suicide rate not come down why have as they measures disability whatever those might be why have those continued to go up instead of down well all the numbers are going in the wrong direction so were already failed whats gone wrong here a lot of people say its because of stigma and access the fact is that actually more people are getting more treatment than ever before so its hard for me to point believe that i would just submit that from the end i am age perspective. The answer about why we failed is a little more disruptive and that answer is that we dont know enough to hear the director of the and i am h. Say now that all of the axle taishan about psychotropics. From the media from academia from the profession from governments were not merited is unsettling after billions of prescriptions and hundreds of billions of dollars in drug Company Profits how did this occur i think that our field has gone off track here by devoting so much of its resources over the last twenty or thirty years both publicly and privately to under trying to understand how the drugs work but youve got medications here that at most reduce some of the symptoms of mood disorders of psychotic disorders they dont in any sense provide a cure this change of heart contradicts what weve been told about psychiatric drugs for a generation now and raises serious questions about how and why these drugs have been dispensed so indiscriminately using antidepressants or any of the psychiatric drugs is simply not its not understood is not explained its not do well to ponder i think theyre in a different class of drugs from most of the drugs that we take for our other elements in the eightys and ninetys s. S. Our eyes were the first in a class of new Mental Health potions heralded as wonder drugs and miracle curious they were extolled as safe and Effective Solutions for the age old problem of depression and were marketed as such thus began an aggressive march towards a new era in psychiatry one which boasted chemicals for the Mental Health conditions that a dog humankind for millennia thirty years later however the window on that era and its bold proclamations appears to be closing in the media it can make a huge difference you could have someone going from being psychotic to being nonpsychotic which is a Pretty Amazing change in behavior. But i think what we we need to recognize has that happened or last fifty years is that they havent. Siobhan to be as good as we thought they were. While the Drug Companies ruthlessly defended their magic bullets in the courts and through the press they were in effect stigmatizing people who were harmed by using them in the early one nine hundred ninety s. This issue had reached a peak was prozac causing violence and suicide but what happened was that there Psychopharmacology Committee almost everybody on the committee worked for the Drug Companies so the conflicts of interest was so enormous that the f. D. A. Had to give them all letters for giving them with their conflicts of interest they can be sued it was a manner of how do we cover it up how do we hide it at every step of the process towards approval and marketing thereafter was designed to hide and mislead the public and physicians about the suicide side effect lillys own secret files implicate the f. D. A. Poorly by Robert Temple and thomas as being complicit in a scheme to whitewash the dark facts about prozac. Has been called the house that the president before the drug was introduced clearly reported earnings of six hundred Million Dollars annually prozac changeless fortunes and the company banked at least twenty one billion dollars in profits from the drug over the life of their patent. Head. When i say to some people Prescription Drugs are the fourth leading cause of death in our society that seems to be the dividing line for some people who already know whats true or have read about and understand it and then theres others who think of thats a myth that cant be true they simply cant conceive of that so they stop listening Terence Young is a member of parliament in canada serving oakville ontario just outside of toronto after a Prescription Drug caused the death of his daughter vanessa he founded an Advocacy Group drug safety canada vanessa collapse in front of me her heart had stopped basically she said. It up to go up stairs when you lose a child your world is upside down and i was thrown into a study out of medicine out of medical jargon out of how the Health Care System works and when it doesnt work and i didnt ask for it but it was my way of dealing with the loss of an s. Or so it was in a sense my way of grieving and it started the day she died for five years young investigated the practices of the medic on Drug Industries and in doing so he says he realized how pharmacy influence had permeated every construct of modern society the loss of his daughter coupled with the shocking truth see uncovered through his medical research led him to write death by prescription and become one of canadas most od and proponents of informed choice. Our narrative. Level was telling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the Chicken Hawks forcing you to fight the battle. That you stopped by to tell you that weve got something id like i found. Out he. Like theyre proud. 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Is the john oliver of a Party America is going to say we are verily better than nothing that is a paper you never heard of redacted the night president of the world bank a pretty girl wrote it seriously you sent us an email box will smith kline is just paid the largest fine in the history of the United States related to fraud and criminal acts for a drug company they paid three billion dollars for illegal marketing of Paxil Wellbutrin and Avandia Paxil and avandia both having been drugs that caused a lot of deaths due to adverse drug reactions and they paid it in cash this action constitutes the Largest Health care settlement in United States history it was in their Business Plan because those three drugs in the years involved saw twenty five billion dollars worth of the drugs are marked up in the thousands of percent psychiatric and scientific ethics were cast aside in exchange for profits no one went to jail and real people paid the price. Where its hard honestly he just door and social situations he loved to sing from a very young needs music was part of our life and part of what he he adored and what i miss most about brennan is he came in it always give me a hug. Give me a hug i still think to this day hes going to walk through the door we were driving not too long ago nancy myself and her other son hayden and i looked in the backseat and hayden was sleeping and i went to look to see if brennan was there to start out if he was sleeping too. I saw brennan walk out of this house he was very robotic. Brain and where are you going its ok mom i just gotta go put on his winter coat brennan its hot out today its ok mom i just gotta go put on his winner halle said brennan its hot out today you wont need that its ok mom ive just got to go and i said i need you here for a minute no its ok mom ive just got to go and that ollie could say to me and this was a child who was very articulate who would who is so verbose that sometimes he would just say ok then after an f. O. Ready four days prior brennan went to the Family Doctor with a chest cold and inexplicably came home with a sample pack of the antidepressant supreme x. At the time of his disappearance he was exhibiting the classic signs of agathe easier i let him go out the door and that was the last time i saw some of that i have and he brought us rope from the local store and drove to a Conservation Area texted us and then hang them self. Before long other teens across the canadian province of ontario would dying just like brennan did for Terence Young the problem hit close to home again when friends and constituents faced the same hora he in the mccartneys had my wife call my son hard to the phone and we heard him say a few words and the bang the phone down and ran upstairs obviously quite upset and we one said what happened he said sarah curran hanged herself and we had met sarah who was eighteen years old just a few weeks before in our back deck they were part of a same social group and overall they play guitar and sing songs and do karaoke or whatever. Because in my own research the first thing i thought about when an otherwise healthy young person dies is was a Prescription Drug involved and of course it was in fact theres no doubt my mind that paxil and withdrawing from paxil was the cause of Sarah Carlins demise her suicide of a young woman hanging herself is an extremely rare thing to happen she went home one saturday night at two oclock in the morning took off her makeup and hanged herself in her parents basement i reached out to turn to one point because i was in contact with Coroners Office i was starting to put pieces together it wasnt until after sarah is death. That we actually started to connect the dots were brief others we have a great connection with terrence hope you got the inquest doctors would talk to us after we fought hard for an inquest because we needed to understand and after syria had died then we started doing research on the drug thats why i really found out about the drug thats the first time we realised that paxil one of the side effects was suicidal thinking is videotape of the Coroners Council saying on the very first day of the inquest we will show that paxil didnt play a part in their carlins death well the whole point of the inquest was to see whether or not and the presence played a part in syrias death the courts acknowledge that this medication can increase thoughts of suicide in particular patients but they dont think that the medication played a role in sarah courland that the inquest the odds were stacked against the condoms the jury i think was very courageous but they were specifically instructed by the coroner that they couldnt actually find paxil as a cause the jury made twelve key recommendations these were detailed recommendations to prevent similar deaths six of them were aimed at the drug industry and of the drug company so if they didnt think that paxil caused or played a Critical Role in Sarah Carlins death they certainly wouldnt put six recommendations aimed at the pharmaceutical industry in there are a good decision. Rejoinder forty pounds of fury oh goodness yes and i was not easy to deal with my son joseph at that time was fifteen years of age extremely ill it didnt matter what it was very very violent the drop of a pin would set me off you could actually say he would be everything that a schoolyard shooting is made out of. In the years after Debbie Steffen drove the familys nine hundred ninety into a raging river with her children inside the mental states of both autumn string him and her brother Joseph Steffen deteriorated whether the cause was genetics or sheer trauma they both were diagnosed with bipolar disorder just like them mom joseph in particular seemed headed for disaster he was just a sweetheart but boy when he hit puberty he he really went over and became incredibly manic and incredibly violent in his mania he was he was scary my dad was scared joseph was medicated with lithium i believe he was taking seven hundred fifty milligrams of of lithium and he was up to nine hundred milligrams of lithium. For a period of time to try and control it was i having huge mood swings yeah that stuff definitely started i mean ive been through a lot of pain with the death of my mother and various events that happened in my life after my mother had committed suicide. I was the most violent person that i knew and i used to wander the streets at night and id go pick fights with the local people and i had this aluminum bat that i had found and i beat it against the curb so it was just jagat and torn up and you know that was my weapon of choice and i mean im lucky i never touched anybody with that thing. My children are already saying to me come on. Youve got to get them out of the house hes going to kill somebody youve got to do something dad didnt matter what we threw at this situation it wasnt going to get better and im going to lose him to a suicide or hes going to have to be institutionalized a thousand miles away autumn was also struggling desperately now married with a child she too was caught in the grip of a mothers madness at that point in my life i just felt like everything was ashes you know i just lost my mom to suicide my diagnosis had been upgraded so i now is rapid cycling bipolar one with schizophrenia tendencies which was it seemed really dark like i wasnt going to get over that and so i had actually planned to commit suicide with one child ingesting a five drug cocktail and contemplating suicide and the other engulfed by violent thoughts Tony Stephens family was under siege. So i was left in a terrible state a terrible state where i had to find an answer because you see my family was literally coming unglued before my eyes i was going to lose my family stephan resolved to find an answer and prevent any further suicides in his family. As part of the research for his book called the book of woe Gary Greenberg was imbedded with psychiatrists as they debated the new edition of the diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders the d s m five all along its been clear that the d. S. M. Is centrally a work of fiction its the way that psychiatrists have of saying if if there are mental disorders if they exist in nature the ways illnesses like diabetes exist then disease or what they are changing the way we understand ourselves is intimately related to the development of the diagnostic and statistical manual the d. S. M. Is often referred to as the bible of psychiatric disorders it is the quintessential diagnostic instrument over four hundred thousand Mental Health professionals in the United States use the d. S. M. And in order to get Third Party Reimbursement one has to have a d. S. M. Diagnosis so the d. S. M. Is extremely instrumental in two thousand and five two respected academics lisa kos grove of you must boston and sheldon crim ski of tufts released their investigation into conflicts of interest between d. S. M. Four Panel Members and the pharmaceutical industry i think the data really speak for themselves the strongest statistics include the Panel Members for the mood disorders and schizophrenia and psychotic disorders one hundred percent of those Panel Members and yes thats right every single panel member has financial soucy actions for the pharmaceutical industry and if you look at it in terms of the sheer amount of money the antidepressant market and the antipsychotic markets are the fourth and fifth leading therapy classes of drugs with annual sales of twenty billion and fourteen billion respectively there are one hundred seventy d. S. M. Panel members thats the total inclusive of all the working groups of those hundred seventy Panel Members fifty six percent had. At least one financial says yes with the pharmaceutical company. The d. S. M. Decision makers actions over the last thirty years have reverberated in some profound ways. My dad and i have always been really close you know both my parents did everything for my brother and i was you know if theres a spot he wanted to pick up or if there is something that we wanted to do we did everything my dad built my brother halfpipe in our backyard and it was like a professionally built half pipe like this thing was phenomenal and we had kids from all over the neighborhood come there to ride it because it was huge theres nothing more accelerating the being at that high in everything that ive ever done it was magical moments our daughter jim was born in one thousand nine hundred and our son he was born in one thousand nine hundred two and both my wife and i took a nurturing approach to parenting didnt get everything they wanted but they certainly had a lot of opportunity when they were young and it was it was wonderful the common cause perfect family began to on hinge shortly after david began taking paxil i really didnt know very much more Mental Illness until when i was forty five years older than i had my first major depression and i was treated with paxil and in fact when i look back on it now theres no question i was manic when i was on packs of the first time that was the very first time that i were even looked at issues around drugs and side effects of drugs i noticed that there was a big difference before he started taking medication and then while he was taking the medication i remember him snapping on me about something very small and i remember him spending so much time in his office i remember him just being just being more quiet and not being himself and looking stressed out and. 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You will know the legislative procedure the arm or shoulder the can you get other coolies it up when you tell my boss lady did i miss all the trails and most of the president abbas. Prescribe medication is widespread on the us market and a frequent cause of death at the point in my life i have. Felt like everything was ashes my family was literally coming unglued i had actually planned. To commit some site water or who has made antidepressants so commonly used we were doing what the doctors told us to do we were being responsible and what are the real side effects he. Was has challenged me all to what i did was done on a cocktail of lethal drugs. Just because somethings legal doesnt mean its safe. To. Look at it its very. Likely. That the. Leader of the los. Lobos. The turkish president expands what i encourage calls its anti terror operation against kurds in syria risking direct confrontation with u. S. Forces also to come left in the cold some of russias top athletes looks set to be banned from the upcoming Winter Olympics despite never failing a drug test and the neighborhood is left stunned after a model student kills his flatmate and posts the grisly Details Online before committing suicide. I welcome good morning has just gone nine oclock here in moscow youre watching r. T. International. The turkish president has a nine. The plan to extend his countrys military operation against Kurdish Forces in syria which anchor of course terrorists the fight will now move to positions held by u. S. Backed kurdish troops in the town of man bitch and its feared that could lead perhaps to direct confrontation with american troops stationed there. The operation with launch branch to terrorists successfully underway starting from many beach we will continue for the games which are being played along our borders and we will cleanse our region completely of this god. So heres a closer look then and what is happening there this is the border between turkey and syria with the areas back to show you know held by Kurdish Militias in the west here you can see the after and region where the Turkish Operation originally began and then to the east of that this area in green there are rebel groups which are backed by turkey both will now push further east towards man big heres how the operation has proceeded so far. I. Know. That i know what theyre hired in talks with tanks to move planes we did nothing to help them theyre protecting our land and theyre bombing us i wish thought that we have to sleep in the cellar because of the bombs we are free to go out in the streets what do you want from us on land they should say to you dear law or on matter how many planes and missiles they send this is on land we cannot leave you do. What we hearing from the turkish president is that he will now extend his military operation in Northern Syria to include the town of man bridge now once the Turkish Military moves into man bridge this could potentially put the turkish army in direct conflict with the forces belonging to a major turkish nato ally namely the United States washington is known to have some two thousand special forces on the ground in syria and while none of them off or to be in the affluent area they are deployed amongst various kurdish enclaves that includes the town of man bridge now man bridge is controlled by u. S. Backed kurdish syrian fighters at the same time we are hearing from the turkish president that more than two hundred and fifty syrian kurds as well as Islamic State fighters have been killed by the turkish army and allied forces in the past few days these figures are being disputed by the kurdish side was also accusing and career of civilian casualties this despite the fact that we are hearing some turkey that they are trying to avoid civilian deaths as far. As possible now the american President Donald Trump has called for and is urging a deescalation and a limit in the military operation that and create is conducting in Northern Syria it is now the sixth day since the Turkish Military moved across the border and no doubt in the coming hours and days the situation on the ground will only intensify but with our middle east correspondent paula slew of International Relations professor hussein bag she told us that the u. S. Are on a collision course in syria. The expectation was that turkey in a very short period and then controlled the area in affluent and. Stop. The just want to go to man beach and get much more control of the area the turkish presence in man beach would create another level of confrontation we have regional conflict on the one hand but also alliance conflict to natal contrary to the american side was insistent one of our turkey is not going to expand operations this is somehow. A warning clear by the americans for the turkish president the confrontation between turkey and the innocence of america is getting more and more likely well the conflict in Northern Syria is already spilling over the border to go into turkey several missiles hit the turkish town of killis on wednesday killing people and injuring a dozen more a mosque in the residential building were damaged likely Officials Say the rockets were fired from africa meanwhile in europe there have been protests over turkeys action and some have turned violent. It was. I. Was. Now a pakistani doctor who turned out to be the key in finding Osama Bin Laden looks set to spend the rest of his life in jail. Well pakistans authorities arrested him soon after the u. S. Operation in may of twenty eleven on allegations of helping militants to u. S. Presence of since promised to release him but its now been seven years this murder gas the reports. You can argue dr Shaquille Afridi helped catch the centurys most wanted man the man who did this. Right there in. The. Sama bin laden you can also argue he was a traitor and a fraud it all depends on where you are from the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama Bin Laden the leader of al qaeda tonight we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome gratitude though has its limits dr afridi set up a Fake Vaccination Program in the area bin laden was hiding in in order to collect his familys d. N. A. And give the cia proof he was there clever shortly after bin laden was eliminated dr afridi was arrested by pakistani intelligence and sentenced to thirty three years. In. Two thousand and eleven of being money to the militants that. He was assisting in medical term that he was making some. News a hospital i met him in. In june and he said that i am innocent and the charges they are totally illegal dr afridi was first accused of aiding local militants and then of murdering a patient though how fair those charges is debatable a bomber tried and failed to get him out donald trump well trump is trump do you you think. Get darker out yes i do i think i would get him out in two minutes i would tell them let him out and im sure theyd let him out it didnt fly it even upset the pakistanis a little being threatened with blackmail its been almost two years since trump made his both stand nothing the man who helped catch some of bin v i call of terrorism is rotting away in jail we believe dr afridi has been unjustly imprisoned and have clearly communicated our position to pakistan on dr afridis case both in public and in private and the us well they bring it up once in a while thats what gratitude is worth nowadays we spoke to the former cia officer Philip Giraldi about this he doesnt see washington making any real effort to free the dr. I was in the teligent office or when people are caught spying for another country. That country does not like to let them freeze so its its actually something that trump did not understand if the pakistanis. Enter into some kind of discussion and trump feels that he can be generous or or do something that will will enable this man to get free then he might do it but i dont know what that would be i dont know what the circumstances would be there are already having serious discussions about the the money that the United States gives the pakistan the United States has been suspending some of that money and not giving it to them so the pakistanis are not are not interested in doing any favors for washington i think that is very clear. Now it seems russia is expected to be dealt another shattering blow just weeks before the Winter Olympics to get underway in south korea the International Olympic committee will reveal this weekend athletes to be banned in response to claims of widespread doping in russia dating back to the last winter games in sochi however many on the list have never failed to test the i. O. C. Didnt give a specific reason but did the integrity of those athletes saying that they could be part of their investigations when in total the draft list will reduce the number of eligible athletes for the winter games by over one hundred and thomas by the i. O. C. President seemed to suggest that team russia was being made an example of the i. O. C. Wanted to give clean russian after lease the opportunity to participate and give the young a new generation of clean russian athletes the opportunity to be at the Olympic Games and be ambassadors for a new clean russian sport. Well many of those set to compete are russias next generation but they look set to be banned from their stead in pics to among the more established russian stars and champions of the by athlete and on ship elin and also the speed skater victor on both of never tested positive for banned substances the final version of the list will be released by the i. O. C. On saturday but has already drawn much condemnation im against the fact that athletes my colleagues who if works for ages to participate in this huge forum would be punished as well in my opinion thats politics those who are involved must be punished but you cannot point a finger at the whole country i believe that some werent involved but they are being tarred with the same brush because. Sports should not be used as a tool for politicians games should be a celebration for the sporting world and for the athletes who have worked so hard for this event and done nothing wrong sport to do night people with russia should be sanctioned of the allegations were proven as anyone should but there is no country that has never been guilty of doing the north americans in lecturing the rest of the world where we have not forgotten where Lance Armstrong came from open johnson up off of what we spoke exclusively to the swedish ice hockey star and his carson and also canadian coach Scott Macpherson for their views on clean russian athletes being sidelined. I think its awful i think russia should go with the best team because they have the best hockey players outside the show. Its going to be sad for the tournament but the best russian is not tom i think they have to be able to do it a little older so they arent affected just like three four weeks before the olympics so its a big. Think its somewhat misguided in that i think most of the players on the Russian Olympic Team or the athletes from russia team that are going to be in korea they were even in the last olympics Everybody Knows who you know your culture because Everybody Knows who you know the great figure skaters are so at the end of the day you know if the russians win in hockey or if an individual figure skater or somebody wins they know who they are and everyone knows who they are and the appreciate them as athletes and the hard work and sacrifice that theyve made to be able to compete at the olympic level the players that are on the russian team are guys that we played against from the time we were little kids we know that theyre clean that you know miniature really and unfortunately politics seems to be slipping into athletics naturally not that. A student in moscow has shared online the gruesome details of him murdering and raping his flatmate and then committed suicide and i posted on the internet revealed how the horrific murder was carried out mean student has left the russian public stunned with paper describing the man as a promising student from a good family well our correspondent went to the high spare the couple lived and spoke to the nighters. This is the area where art and its yacht rented their flat together the better of moscow very close to in the universities where they study they seem to have everything to enjoy their lives in the capital. The students were once in a relationship but after breaking up they continued to share a flat in the building right there it turned out to be unbearable for r. T. O. To leave thats the right entrance they lived on the ground floor and one social media post described everything he did behind these walls on one horrifying winter night. It was late art he had been drinking when to tianna and heard a room he started punching the details of what was happening there and the next few hours are far too grisly to go into in this report but it included stabbing and rape and necrophilia. After what everyone i guess would call a psychotic frenzy. Hanged himself this is the entrance to their flat with a Police Notice but this shouldnt be the most challenging investigation for the authorities the couples whole lives were out there on their social media accounts for everyone to see and art films very long suicide note that he posted on his account was a full description of what happened that night where he explained his motivation. This is a very small section of the building with very few apartments and none of the neighbors here agreed to talk to us i was made for this which was. But one Security Guard outside agreed to share some details will you still love this most people salute the biblical story. Post with the with the soaps are still good little some old is that still not to children look at the people in middle of the ripples. Of this pollution. Jealousy had rage have often led to quanta of passion weve seen it in movies read about it in books but seldom before have weeks ference did so vividly thanks to the killer of the victims of sessions with social media. As any prank reporting now youre watching out International Still to come jim a judge has been criticized for removing a crucifix from his courtroom well tell you why just after the break. You know one of the things we saw in this entire Campaign Leading up to trump selection was very little discussion of the facts nobody said look you know you may be the smartest person in the world in your area of cheating people in the Real Estate Market but when it comes to actually understand economics you have no background i think any you know good economist could possibly have won that election. The press made and attention to that. Whole existence to you so. They put themselves on the laws. To get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president and should. Somehow want to be. Whats it like to be for us this is what was before us three of the more people. Interested always in the logs. Push it. Back without saying a german judge just coerced jitter tried in bavaria for removing a crucifix from his court room for a saddam see the afghan man is suspected of threatening to kill fellow countrymen for converting to christianity or europe correspondent peter all of a house the story. This judge in the Bavarian Alps has found himself in the eye of a storm thats after he ordered that a crucifix be removed from his courtroom during the trial of an afghan asylum up look and accused of trying to kill another afghan who convert it to christianity its a move thats caused florrie in the strongly catholic state as well as in german tabloid media the judge says he made the move in order to show religious tolerance how can i educate the defendant to move away from his beliefs he thinks jihad exists between christians and islamists and so i did not think it wise to condemn him under the cross i do not care if there is a cross or not when the judge addressed this issue in court i just dont really understand the problem bosses in the Bavarian Ministry of justice say this should never have been an issue in the first place. The presence of crosses in courtrooms does not prevent the state from up holding religious and ideological neutrality. Religious rights for christie and converts in germany is a hot issue particularly in places like my eyes but the toll on the border with austria is where many refugees and migrants either arrived or at least passed through in twenty fifteen and the move by judge schmidt has prompted a ferocious backlash on social media dear bavarian people this is a slap in the face of all christians do you still want to trample on your christian will lose the rag jagjit school of me at a loss for words such an irony in the trial of afghan islamists judge class youre against me it takes Christopher Guest from the war of the courtroom the sophisticated islamization in this country continues judge klaus youre going schmidt are you insane such a disgrace this story comes as the trial of a different failed asylum applicant from afghanistan is underway in a nearby town in southern germany in that case a thirty eight year old woman was brutally stabbed to death in front of her small children the prosecution say that the motive behind the killing was that she had converted to christianity that trial is expected to continue for several more days peter all over r. T. The u. S. President is on his way to switzerland at the moment to take part in the pro globalist Economic Forum in davos but to the surprise of many at the Luxury Resort donald trump is going to promote his famous mantra America First the u. S. Transportation secretary has given her response to those questioning trumps role in devil us. America first is a continuation of the american affirmation of american exceptionalism so i dont think well i think this you know all these questions are why the president is coming and again i think all of us should feel very flattered that he has chosen this as a forum. For those that dont want to listen to him you can they can leave you know this is part of what discourse and discussion is all about well only this week thousands of people did march through the streets of europe to denounce trumps visit to switzerland and also be in thai gathering at davos the u. S. President is expected to be met with huge protests and brought itself a bit later which was called for this thursday despite a ban from local authorities. Now the pentagons draft of the upcoming u. S. Nuclear policy review has been leaked and this report of ready suggested it appears to confirm a reversal in strategy for the coming year because america looks set to expand its Nuclear Capabilities and experts do say it could make the idea of using the weapons much easier changes will be made to submarine missiles which will be reconfigured Nuclear Tests could also be resumed while the modernization of the u. S. Nuclear arsenal will focus on smaller weapons but the former head of National Nuclear security questions whether washington can actually afford it. We are working pretty much at full capacity weve never done more than one Life Extension Program at a time since the end of the cold war were now doing essentially four. Lighning u. S. Intentions to update and upgrade its Nuclear Weapons has been heavily criticised many have highlighted Donald Trumps Nuclear Button with the north Korean Leader as an example of the possible dangers and Nuclear Studies director peter because nick thinks that this modernization will increase the possibility of military conflict by main fear is that theyre going to carry out these modernization programs within the context of the modernization yes faster they do it the sloppy it becomes and the more dangerous it becomes so were concerned about Nuclear Safety but even if there is no concern about Nuclear Safety the fact that we have these new modernized weapons means that the threat of nuclear war increases and increases exponentially so that thats how the news is looking so far this morning here in r. T. I will back with more in just over half. Greetings and salyut asian. Many will tell you that the United States of america has an immigration problem turn on fox news or any conservative leaning me program and i promise you that at some point some talking head or pundit will blame a multitude of our civic and cultural problems on the supposedly scourge of the Illegal Immigrants pouring across our i delicate southern border but its not just a republican issue remember that more immigrants were deported under democratic president barack obama than any other administration in u. S. History so dont feel to write cheap a. N. C. There democrats. Dont do you know what i think the real problem is hawk watchers its not an illegal immigration problem no no in truth its a compassion problem take for example the Current Issues between the faith based humanitarian group death no more in the u. S. Border patrol just last week the group issued a damning report on the u. S. Border patrols mistreatment of humanitarian aid workers supplies and efforts along the Us Mexico Border including the destruction of thousands of Water Bottles left along crossing hotspots to prevent the dehydration and deaths of those undocumented immigrants looking to better their lives the report states these actions call into question the Border Patrols own claims to be humanitarian the practice of destruction of an interface with aid is not the deviant behavior of a few row Border Patrol agents is a systemic feature of enforcement practices and a logical extension of the broader strategy of prevention through deterrence. You see thats thats not in the illegal immigration problem where where is your humanity when you deny your fellow men and women a basic element of life water why do that because a piece of paper saying theyre allowed to be here is more important than their own well being. That is a compassion problem. Not an immigration problem i want to start watching the hawks. Want to. Get the. Real thing with. The bottom. Like you like i got. This. Week so. Well the odds are so i am i wrong and on top of that. So tyrrell here we are twenty eighteen twenty a team and were still arguing over immigration in the United States i mean most of our ancestors anybody whose ancestors came here you know at the at the dawn as a kind of american and western or american or were forced to come here and share absolutely right in the forefront yet if you like me in your immigration your family came here in the last hundred so they were probably undocumented i dont think the mayflower peeps were like get married english passport stamped and how their view says ready to be and Plymouth Rock i mean this is just this is we have a statue give us your tired report this was the whole point of this country and then twenty eighteen we are seriously arguing that just giving water to people who are trying to get the american dream. Is considered a crime and thats a crime for them and thats the thing thats ridiculous about this i mean you you know what this group report found by the these two tucson based groups the no more deaths in the a Large Coalition on the richest models what they found was that from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen at least thirty five hundred gallon jugs of water were destroyed in approximately eight hundred square mile area is kind of core door and i was old. Thats a lot of water to be destroyed you know and theres like the group will just kind of leave jugs of water basically along right areas where they know like ok a lot of border crossings happen here its a tough mulch was horrible awful journey its not fun trying to illegally get into a country you know try to get through the border and do all that and a lot of people die i mean i think theyve theyve said theres some like seven thousand people have died in that journey over the course of many years that they found bodies in the desert of gavels and you hear stories about people just literally losing their lives and these are these are just adults i think thats the part where washington insider and politicians and the people in the know on the right side of the aisle have this idea that theyre like whoa this is what this is the immigration problem they make it about a con they make it about economics they make it about all these other things and honestly its about human life i dont care it i get it i get it if everybodys freaking out about it fine were going to get the problem under control weve got to figure out whats going on here and find a system that works a lot better but we need a system that is humanitarian adages core that is what the priority should be because if the roles were reversed and you had to run from the United States into mexico i dont think you want people you would find you dont i think youd want to be sitting there wondering why someone would dump out water thats there to just say just is there to save you and then you know and thats why i think its like look i understand like yeah if you catch someone in there undocumented theyre going to send them back because thats the rules of the system today ok fine but theres no reason that person should die or be allowed not die or be allowed to be to you know deprived of potential water or that these people who are there for humanitarian reasons are just trying to help just trying to say look were not trying to say this is right or wrong were just trying to like help these people suffering as they cross this desert to hopefully make their life a little better and it helps a little ridiculous and was interesting is that is that while these groups in this. Report says that you know that they cant exclusively claim that its the u. S. Border patrol. But what they put in their report was that given the scope and destruct of the destruction they concluded that the only actors with sufficiently large and consistent presence across a sufficiently wide area of the desert during the period when hunting is about authorized and prohibited are agents of the u. S. Mourner patrol now there was a response to vest from Border Patrol to these people who are out there because activists what was that response well i was worried yeah i mean the response from the Border Patrol is that you know basically when this when this report came out they went out and you know is that their official response to the report but their actions speak louder than words this report comes out they immediately arrest one of the members of no deaths them or what he was you know this kind of cabin you know providing some help for these people who were crossing the border and williams you walker to some based attorney who represented no more you know as volunteers for more than a decade hes represented these people he told the intercept quote the Border Patrol and the u. S. Attorney knows about the activities has surveilled the activities has permitted the activities has recognized that were out there helping to save lives and all of a sudden its all changed and that raises a lot of questions because lets remember one thing if the u. S. Border patrol is out there doing this with which a lot of circumstantial evidence says it is that theyre crushing these Water Bottles and now theyre arresting these activists im sorry thats our thats my tax dollars to a living us thats your tax dollars then suddenly paying to allowed undocumented people to die in the desert because they couldnt get a jug of water thats ridiculous to me im sorry. And now for the illegal immigrant you really should be concerned about about im taking your job your house your city and even possibly an entire state its an abstract an asteroid roughly the size of burj khalifa the over eight hundred meter tall skyscraper in dubai which is currently speeding towards earth larger than the worlds tallest bill. And moving at a rather brisk speed of seventy six thousand Miles Per Hour the asteroid is set to thankfully fly past earth on february fourth according to nasa arties david miller has the details a skyscraper size asteroid will be passing earth it will be ten times the distance from earth to the moon which is about two point six million miles or four point two million kilometers according to nasa that asteroid is about a half a mile to a full mile in diameter for comparison the worlds tallest building is about a half a mile tall while the new World Trade Center building in new york is nearly a quarter of a mile tall all right now for the good news nasa says theres no chance actually two thousand and two a. J. One two nine will collide with earth the center for near earth object studies at nessus jet Propulsion Laboratory said in a statement our calculations indicate that actually two thousand and two a. J. One to nine has no chance zero of colliding with earth on february fourth or any time over the next one hundred years also according to nasa rockets of this size flying close to earth somewhat regularly and fact recently to space rockets came significantly closer to our planet on september first of two thousand and seventeen the ash word florence passed within about four point four million miles of earth or about eighteen times the distance from earth to the moon in other bus size asteroid zoom within fifty four thousand miles of earth on october second of two thousand and seventeen and as per protocol nasa did a two thousand and two a. J. One to nine as a potentially hazardous actually however its important to note that this takes the nation is given to any asteroid larger than four hundred sixty feet in diameter that gets closer to the earth by four point six five million miles but again have no fear as a space rock is no threat to our existence yet that is reporting from washington d. C. David miller r t america. Just in down for the super bowl i know it doesnt time for the simple but i mean anyone growing up in the ninetys and you know love in the ninetys filmmaking you know weve all seen armageddon at some point you know and the deep end and i think. You know these things are you know put like this i would rather see the money that were probably going to end up wasting here in the u. S. I would rather see the money that we probably end up wasting building a wall separating mexico and the United States spent on tracking nearer you know potential asteroid collisions or i would rather see the money spent there and you know because because to me that is a bigger potential danger down the line of least knowing if and when Something Like that could happen because of the size of these things and that these things could destroy the entire planet that to me is way more scarier than some guy just trying to look for a better life crossing the border im sorry you dont get it i just dont get it but you dont get it i dont waste your money on but it is the super bowl asteroid yes it is the super bowl asteroid pretty big yet amazing so theyre saying that this asteroid has no chance of colliding with earth on february fourth and also any time in the next one hundred years so this specific asteroid were got its not going to bother us and all of that but i think theres others theres a theres a very maybe its. Coming to get us. Into well i mean never mind did i use the thing you got to be watching over because it was in one thousand nine hundred seven university of colorado geosciences brian to his colleagues they predicted this word comes of this is where theyve suddenly said we need to Pay Attention to these rocks right wing through the galaxy is that a space rock just half a mile wide would produce an explosion thats equal to the release of one hundred million tons of t. N. T. On the planet as a lot. Though. Thats enough to cause like you know widespread damage and earthquakes and pretty much things that weve seen before you know that we live with you know her way but all and i think im told the same time but still things that weve kind of we can deal with this we can make it through this. However once the collision threshold exceeds the one hundred thousand tons of t. N. T. Million tons of t. N. T. Then youre looking at a catastrophic you know the basically the worst thing that ever happened in Human History at that point i think the dinosaurs would beg to differ Human History Human History we have certain ways that we both existed together we did but right. Now a meteor is most crazy a meteor just a mile long would be of this size that could create that kind of catastrophe and thats i mean its like that to me put the money in nasa put the money in things that look that way there because a its fascinating b. Lets figure out a way to keep the mile long asteroid that could potentially collide with us from happening yet something a little better than bruce willis and Steve Buscemi i think. Maybe. Get a pretty good that they did as we go to break god was developer get a lot of the word you think about the government facebook and twitter so youre full so that r t dot com coming up sean bell digs into the real force of. Push to Privatized School systems across the United States would offer ph d. Mark stay to watch the whole. Heres what people have been saying about rejected in the sixtys belong to the only show i go out of my way to find you know a lot of the really packed a punch. Yap is the john oliver of r t america is doing the same we are apparently better than the blue. Sea people you never heard of love jack tonight president of the world bank. Because you are going to. Send us an email. Me everybody im stephen. Tast hollywood guy suspects every proud american first of all im just george bush and r. V. And do some stuff this is my buddy max famous financial guru just a little bit different. Abraham lincoln one of the well you know when those up with all the drama happening in our country im shooting the road have some fun meet Everyday Americans come calling and hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the Great American pill which. Is this is harder than kentucky. Over all of this move the voices it was very funny zareen the only. A co money city with almost no coal mines left. The jobs are gone all the coal was a said. That it was a lot of these people the survivors of disappearing before their eyes. I remember thinking when i was younger that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in the million years i would see that and its how its happened. It is a frequent refrain from the political right that Americas School system is in shambles and a collective black eye for. Otherwise the proud nation we also frequently hear claims that our schools are so far down the road to hell that the only solution is privatizing education completely or at the very least using taxpayer dollars to give out vouchers and profit but competing that work of private parochial and Charter Schools it all almost sounds too simple doesnt it perhaps we would be well served by a closer look at the trail of bread crumbs and dollar bills behind this message and that task is exactly what doug martin and indiana based Investigative Reporter took on in his book Hoosier School heist which follows the ins and outs of Political Campaign and nonprofit finance all across indiana had to really show who and why is pushing the Strong Political current to disassemble and privatized our nations schools johnstone earlier sat down with doug to find out more. Doug martin thank you so much for joining me today i want to talk about your work as far as focusing on Charter Schools and the privatization of Public Schooling one of the major arguments that seems in favor of privatizing in the broad lies in education basically is this argument that we need more freedom of choice to have Charter Schools and voucher programs and things like this would you say that youre opposed to such initiatives well yes i mean what is the word choice is interesting in in some ways is or will only in because the same people who are. For School Choice are also against choice in other words the religious right for instance is not what you have to be be able to choose who you marry but. If you want to go to a school vow to school then you know theyre fine as far as youre concerned what is the the danger of this initiative to privatized Public Education. Well here in indiana a lot of money is getting drained out of the public School System so you have tax referendums that are trying to go through you have transportation problems you have staff being laid off so its meant to dismantle Public Education as we know it and there is a lot of billionaires behind this which i think a lot of people understand that that you have the boss family you have the Walton Family you have Marco Bloomberg you have john arnold of only from enron there is just the jojos the people who are throwing money into this cause now the majority of those people will never make a dime of this but they are using their wealth to dismantle the system as it now stands to set up a free market socalled free market system as weve seen in indiana though Charter Schools who have done horrible have and have even closed down our getting there there are many wiped out i mean the they have loans from the state and the state has raced those loans so they do not have to pay those back so its not truly a free market in many ways its crony capitalism and how does that system really work out as it actually works such that you can make money on education or for you know for profit education. Well in terms of Charter Schools a lot of people who are politically connected have funded mostly the Republican Party and have a lot of these bills passed and some of them run Charter Schools and theyre not your mom and part Charter Schools these are Charter Schools that they run across the country so what they tend to do often is go into a local community and five politically connected people who they will put on a nonprofit who are and that nonprofit pretty much call the shots for the for Profit Organization behind it there is one group called imagine schools which was shut down in st louis who has connections to Mitch Daniels they have a scheme a real estate scheme where they basically jack up the rent and the nonprofit they have handpicked passes all of it through and some of the schools dont even have books its that bad so the money is funneled upward the people running the schools are making i dont know about imagine that some of these people are making half a Million Dollars a year or more theres some charter franchise across america i mean theyre raking in these c. E. O. s are raking in millions of dollars public money to run these jurors so people dont understand that dynamic as well. Precisely and you mentioned indiana thats the focus of your book on the Hoosier School heist but as i understand it the constitution is a constitution of indiana doesnt really allow for the state to actually. Fund nonPublic Schooling so how are the people of indiana responding to this this recent venture into about churches and charter programs. Well there are arguments is that the money follows the child ok so it is for the School Vouchers they have these s t os theyre called that are set up that take care of actually getting the money to go to the school. So. Thats how that works now theres a lot of theres a lot of things going on too with. No you know what was the question you know im sorry i have lost the transporter yet as far as you know again if india has not really allowed to constitutionally and you know fund these joint programs budget thats how they get away with it and b. How are the people responding how are they guess they people responding to the how is the public responding to these ventures ok well at first the law people understood what was going on after my book came out and made pretty big splash so it changed the conversation the media to that point were totally destroyed disregarding any counterargument to the narrative of the of the Corporate School reformers and in my book change that to a certain degree so you have some in the media actually reporting a little bit about the Campaign Money its coming in from out of state the indianapolis Public School board races been funded by people. All across the american trying to get certain people on board to rubber stamp all this through so you have it coming from all different types of directions as a public reaction been opposed to the voucher system into the charter system. There is some resistance yeah. But its not a major top of resistance theres going to be a rally at the state house next. But its hard to to educate the people and the people who do have the money to try to get the word i dont really go about educating the people they throw their money into the political system trying to get democrats elected changs all this but that thats never going to happen those gerrymandering going on theres hardly any democrats who are pro Public Education left in the house and senate in the end in the majority its run by the majority of republicans in both house and and the Governors Office so i dont think youre going to change this by voting and ill think thats going to happen and maybe eventually but youre going first have to educate people and you think of you i mean in the old days that you had unions you had the socialist movement you had dads who had their own newspapers days of reason trying to get out the real news to the general populace today as you know its pretty much you see propaganda a twenty four seven whether its a local level or the last. But how can we trust the public School System at this point i mean does if if you look at the comparisons of where the u. S. Stands in ranks as far as the you know the tests on an annual basis we are far behind other industrialized countries it does seem to be something wrong with the Public Education system no. Yeah i will follow the test in my i dont believe in standardized testing i think its a waste the money i think it pigeonholes teachers into basically p. C. Teaching to the test and it tells you how well a specific student has done on that specific test but i agree there needs to be. Some type of reform in Public Education you need to get rid of the steroids testing theres need to be more social justice taught there is need to be something true taught about American History instead of this american exceptionalism and you know the massacres the white racist done throughout time is is want lost but i think the day the issue seems to still stem from the fact of whether the government is spending money on Public Education or it spending money on private Charter School and. There is there is still a sort of theres going to be any logical control the ultimate coming from the coming from the government in some fashion or its crony capitalism or whether its basically you know potentially brainwashing of students in their history no yeah i mean theres not much talk of real issues in education if you think of education mean trying to understand why were on this planet why were alive in the bigger kind of questions we as human beings ought to be asking you dont have any of that. In Public Schools or at all with us Charter Schools or traditional Public Schools its all pretty much synergy on training the future workforce which may or may not exist and business has always been involved in education and they want to. For instance or the hope personalized learning movement thats going on now with the tech so you have i pads in schools you have online learning. So whats going on is the surveillance state the military Industrial Complex the commercialization of the internet all this is getting wrapped in twine together so you have these intake companies that are interested not only in sewing their products schools but also their interest in arresting what these kids are doing on month so if you have a High School Kid and theyre doing an assignment for their english class chances are theyre also looking up things on amazon no shoes dresses whatever it may be and that data is collected. 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Forces. Also to come left in the cold some of russias top athletes looks set to be banned from the upcoming Winter Olympics despite never failing a drugs test and a more they are heard is left stunned after a model student killed his flatmate and posts the grisly Details Online before committing suicide. Feel like a morning without international this thursday where its just gone ten oclock here in moscow our top story the turkish president has announced a plan to extend his countrys military operation against Kurdish Forces in syria which ankara calls terrorist the fight will now move to positions held by u. S. Backed kurdish groups in the town of man bitch and it is feared to that that could lead to direct confrontation with american troops stationed there. Of. The operation weve launched named olive branch to cleanse our friend of terrorists successfully and the way starting from men beach we will continue for them to games which are being played along our borders and we will cleanse our region completely of this trouble. Ok well lets have a closer look then of what is happening there this is the border behind me between to syria with the areas in yellow held by Kurdish Militias and then in the west you can see the afrin region where the Turkish Operation originally began to the east of that is green and that area is held by rebel groups backed by to push further east towards man bridge which you can see that well heres how the operation has preceded so far. I. Say that but. I think that either what theyre hiring talks with tanks to move planes we did nothing to help them their perception our land and theyre bombing us and we start that we have to sleep in the cellar because of the bombs we are free to go out on the streets what do they want from us all none they should studious law or on matter how many planes and missiles they send this is our land will not leave it and do. What were hearing from the turkish president is that he will now extend his military operation in Northern Syria to include the town of man bitch now once the Turkish Military moves into man bridge this could potentially put the take his army in direct conflict with the forces belonging to a major turkish nato ally namely the United States washington is known to have some two thousand special for. Forces on the ground in syria and while none of them are thought to be in the afrin area they are deployed amongst various kurdish enclave set includes the town of man bridge now man bridge is controlled by u. S. Backed kurdish syrian fighters at the same time we are hearing from the turkish president that more than two hundred and fifty syrian kurds as well as Islamic State fighters have been killed by the turkish army and allied forces in the past few days these figures are being disputed by the kurdish side who is also accusing and career of civilian casualties this despite the fact that we are hearing from turkey that they are trying to avoid civilian deaths as far as possible now the american President Donald Trump has called for and is urging a deescalation and a limit in the military operation that and create is conducting in Northern Syria it is now the sixth day since the Turkish Military moved across the border and no doubt in the coming hours and days the situation on the ground will only intensify that was our middle east correspondent paula slayer with International Relations professor hussein bag she told us that turkey and the u. S. Are on a collision course in syria the split decision world. In a very short period. Of. Stop. Just want to go to. Get much more control of. The turkish president. Another level of confront persian we have regional conflict on the one hand but also alliance. To marital cancer is the american side was insistent one of the is not going to stand the operation on the floor this is somehow. A warning clear by the americans for the turkish president the confrontation between turkey and the innocence of america is getting more and more likely well the conflict in Northern Syria is already spilling over the border into turkey several missiles hit the turkish town of killis on wednesday killing two people and injuring dozens more were a mosque in a residential building were also damaged local Officials Say the rockets were fired from a friend meanwhile in europe there have been protests over to action and some have turned violent. I think i think. I. Was. I was. Right i. A pakistani doctor who turned out to be the key in finding Osama Bin Laden looks set to spend the rest of his life in jail pakistans authorities arrested him soon after the u. S. Operation in may of twenty eleven on allegations of helping militants two u. S. President s have promised to release him but its now been seven years more against the if takes up the story. You can argue dr Shaquille Afridi helped catch the centurys most wanted man the man who did this. Right here in the. Sama bin laden you can also argue he was a traitor and a fraud it all depends on where you are from the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama Bin Laden the leader of al qaeda tonight we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome gratitude though has its limits dr afridi set up a Fake Vaccination Program in the area bin laden was hiding in in order to collect his familys d. N. A. And give the cia proof he was there clever shortly after bin laden was eliminated dr afridi was arrested by pakistani intelligence and sentenced to thirty three years he was charged in. Two thousand and eleven of being money to the militants that. He was assisting in medical term that he was making some. News a hospital i met him in. In june and he said that i am innocent and the charges they are totally illegal dr afridi was first accused of aiding local militants and then of murdering a patient though how fair those charges is debatable bomber tried and failed to get him out donald trump well trump is trump do you you think. You get a doctor out yes i do i think i would get him out in two minutes i would tell them and im sure theyd let him out it didnt fly it even upset the pakistanis a little being threatened with blackmail its been almost two years since trump made his both stand nothing the man who helped catch some of bin laden v icon of terrorism is rotting away in jail we believe dr afridi has been unjustly imprisoned and have clearly communicated our position to pakistan on dr afridis case both in public and in private and the us well they bring it up once in a while thats what gratitude is worth nowadays. Or a gas stove reporting we spoke to the former cia officer Philip Giraldi he doesnt see washington making any real effort to free the dr. I was in the teligent office or when people are caught spying for another country. That country does not like to let them freeze so its its actually something that trump did not understand if the pakistanis. Enter into some kind of discussion and trump feels that he can be generous or or do something that world will enable this man to get free then he might do it but i dont know what that would be of what the circumstances would be they are already having serious discussions about the the money that the United States gives the pakistan the United States has been suspending some of that money and not giving it to them so the pakistanis are not are not interested in doing any favors for washington i think that is very clear. Now in other news team russia is expected to be dealt another shattering blow just weeks before the Winter Olympics to get underway in south korea the International Olympic committee will reveal this weekend which athletes will be allowed to compete in response to claims of widespread doping in russia dating back to the last Winter Olympics in sochi however many that look like missing out have never failed a test the i. O. C. Didnt give a specific reason but did the integrity of those athletes saying they could be part of further investigations in total the draft list will reduce the number of eligible athletes for the winter games by over one hundred and almost by the i. O. C. President did seem to suggest that seeing russia was being made an example of. The i. O. C. Wanted to give clean russian athletes the opportunity to participate and give a young the new generation of clean russian athletes the opportunity to be at the Olympic Games and be ambassadors for a new clean russian sport. While many of those who were hoping to compete are russias next generation but they do look set to be banned from methodist to lympics and so to see more stablished russian stars including the biathlete anton shapiro lynn and the speed skater victor on neither have ever tested positive for banned substances the final version of the list will be released by the i. O. C. On saturday but its already drawn a lot of criticism im against the fact that athletes my colleagues who have worked for ages to participate in this huge forum would be punished as well in my opinion thats politics those who are involved must be punished but you cannot point a finger at the whole country i believe that some werent involved but theyre being tarred with the same brush because. Sport should not be used as a tool for politicians games should be a celebration for the sporting world and for the athletes whove worked so hard for this event and done nothing wrong sport should unite people like russia should be sanctioned of the allegations proven as anyone should but there is no country that has never been guilty of doping the north americans in lecturing the rest of the world but we havent forgotten where Lance Armstrong came from open johnson. But we also spoke exclusively to the swedish ice hockey star anise carlson and the canadian coach Scott Macpherson for their views on clean russian athletes being sidelined. I think its awful i think russia should go with the best team because they have the best hockey players out side show. Its going to be sad for the tournament but the best russian is not tom i think they have to be able to do it a little older so they dont affect us like three four weeks before the olympics so its a big. Might think its somewhat misguided in that i think most of the players on the Russian Olympic Team or the athletes from russia team that are going to be in korea they werent even in the last olympics Everybody Knows really a culture because Everybody Knows who you know the great figure skaters are so at the end of the day you know if the russians win in hockey or if an individual figure skater or somebody wins they know who they are and everyone knows who they are in the appreciate them as athletes and the hard work and sacrifice that theyve made to be able to compete at the olympic level the players that are on the russian team are guys that we played against from the time we were little kids we know that theyre clean that the i mean its really unfortunately politics seems to be slipping into athletics naturally not that its. A student in moscow has shared online the gruesome details of him murdering and raping his flatmate who then committed suicide and i posted on the internet revealed how horrific the murder was carried out the incident has left the russian public stunned with paper describing the man as a promising student from a good family well our correspondent went to the house where the couple lived and spoke to their neighbors we should warn you that you might find some of some parts of the report disturbing. This is the area where art and its yacht rented their flat together the better of moscow very close to in the universities where they study they seem to have everything to enjoy their lives in the capital. The students were once in a relationship but after breaking up they continued to share a flat in the building right there it turned out to be unbearable for r. T. O. To leave thats the right entrance they lived on the ground floor and one social media post described everything he did behind these walls on one horrifying winter night. It was late art he had been drinking when to tiana and her to room he started punching her the details of what was happening there and the next few hours are far too grisly to go into in this report but it included stabbing rape and necrophilia. After what everyone i guess would call a psychotic frenzy arturo hanged himself this is the entrance to their flat with a Police Notice but the shouldnt be the most challenging investigation for the authorities the couples whole lives were out there on their social media accounts for everyone to see and art films very long suicide note that he posted on his account was a full description of what happened that night where he explained his motivation. 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You know one of the things we saw in this entire Campaign Leading up to transfer election was very little discussion of the facts nobody said look you know you may be the smartest person in the world in your area of cheating people in the Real Estate Market but when it comes to actually understand economics you have no background i think any you know a good economist could possibly have won that election. The press made and attention to that. They put themselves on the line to get except the reject. So would you want to be president and should. Somehow want to be. Actually going to be for us this is what before three of the more people get. Interested always in the last. Question. Again its human judges caused the trial in bavaria for removing a crucifix from his court room at the request of an Asylum Seeker the afghan man is suspected of threatening to kill a fellow countryman for converting to christianity or europe correspondent peter all of it has more. This judge in the Bavarian Alps has found himself in the eye of a storm thats after he ordered that a crucifix be removed from his courtroom during the trial of an afghan asylum up look and accused of trying to kill another afghan convert to christianity its a move thats caused florrie in the strongly catholic state as well as in german tabloid media the judge says he made the move in order to show religious tolerance how can i educate the defendant to move away from his beliefs he thinks jihad exists between christians and islamists and so i did not think it wise to condemn him under the cross i do not care if there is a cross or not when the judge addressed this issue in court i just dont really understand the problem bosses in the Bavarian Ministry of justice say this should never have been an issue in the first place. The presence of crosses in courtrooms does not prevent the state from up holding religious and ideological neutrality. Religious rights for christian converts in germany is a hot issue particularly in places like my eyes but the toll on the border with austria is where many refugees and migrants either arrived or at least passed through in twenty fifteen and the move by judge schmidt has prompted a ferocious battle on social media d a barbarian people this is a slap in the face of all christians do you still want to trample on your christian will lose the right judges who have me at a loss for words such an irony in the trial of afghan islamists judge class youre against me it takes Christopher Guest from the war of the courtroom the sophisticated islamization in this country continues judge klaus youre going schmidt are you insane such a disgrace this story comes as the trial of a different failed asylum applicant from afghanistan is underway in a nearby town in southern germany in that case a thirty eight year old woman was brutally stabbed to death in front of her small children the prosecution say that the motive behind the killing was that she had converted to christianity the trial is expected to continue for several more days peter all of them are. Now the u. S. President is on his way to switzerland to take part in the pro globalist Economic Forum in davos but the surprise of many the Luxury Resort donald trump is going to promote his famous mantra America First u. S. Transportation secretary has given her response to those questioning trumps role in devil us America First is a continuation of the american affirmation of american exceptionalism so i dont think well i dont this you know all these questions are why the president is coming and again i think all of us to feel very flattered that he has chosen this as a forum. For those that dont want to listen to him you can take a leave you know this is. Part of what discourse and discussion is all about whether only this week thousands of people did march through the streets of hewitt to denounce trumps visit to switzerland and also the entire gathering at the u. S. President is expected to be met with a huge protest in davos itself when he arrives which was called for this thursday despite a ban from local authority its. In other news the pentagons draft of the upcoming u. S. Nuclear policy review has been leaked and his reports have already suggested it does appear to confirm a reversal in strategy for the coming year america looks set to expand its Nuclear Capabilities and experts to say it could make the idea of using the weapons much easier changes would also be made to submarine missiles which will be reconfigured Nuclear Tests could also be resumed while the modernization of the u. S. Nuclear arsenal will focus on smaller weapons but the former head of the National Nuclear security does question whether washington can afford it. We are working pretty much at full capacity weve never done more than one Life Extension Program at a time since the end of the cold war were now doing essentially four. The late review outlining u. S. Intentions to update and upgrade its Nuclear Weapons has been criticized many of highlighted Donald Trumps Nuclear Button right with the north Korean Leader as an example of the possible dangers and Nuclear Studies director peter because nick does think this modernization will actually increase the possibility of military conflict by the main fear is that theyre going to carry out these modernization programs within the context of the modernization yes faster they do with the sloppier it becomes and the more dangerous it becomes so were concerned about Nuclear Safety so were but even if there is no concern about Nuclear Safety the fact that we have these new modernized weapons means that the threat of nuclear war increases and increases exponentially. You want to say thanks for your company this morning dont forget you can keep cross these stories plus have a look at its to our web site at r. T. Dont. Read the stand here from us and. Move on what are some. 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Welcome to the show and the opening lines of robert burtons epic poem and scotts shanter a tale of witches and warlocks ghosts of girlies some reflections of life from the afterlife thrown in for good measure this is burtons night and today all score sun friends of scotland worldwide are celebrating the work of caledonia us bob robert burtons Scottish Nationalist under internationals the poet of the common man whose vastness of love songs have been an inspiration for people as diverse as Abraham Lincoln to bob dylan there are more statues to robert burns and to any nonreligious figure with the sole exception is the Queen Victoria and Christopher Columbus this one here in victoria embankment gardens in london is absolutely splendid but if youre watching down under this one in victoria still year or new york this one in central park meanwhile back home and the resists impressive monument and thats where Thomas Shanta barely survived his encounter with the devils legions now todays show by popular demand features bums aplenty who will also be speculating on where the house of lords is about to deliver a blow to the governments plans to exit from europe so first while europe side is fixed on mighty things the fate of empires and the fall of kings of state machines produces plan and even children lists the rights of man amid this mighty fuss just let me mention the rights of women merit some attention so over to us. Right and just the right thing i thought of the composer yes yes welcome to the alex thanks very much thanks for having me and love to see you know we are having a great special of course the by the time and he has your name sick of course it will come once that i mean i want to know if youre related but give us a bit of your background first right hey a musician from glasgow as you said yeah my dad is artist jedda barnes. Hes also a musician in the so i can enjoy it listen to him plea and. Just you know over enjoy playing guitar without tommy who play four chords when i was five and my family everyone can sing so yeah i just grew up. Basically sort of a music and musical family that and of course weve all been involved in your your latest project which is burns on bones i have to ask you the question line are you released to the bard and say oh i want to live would love to see yes and i do say yes a lot but no you know obviously if it is but i know its no somethings the space im going in the business or something you know you get people telling you their grandfather was scottish or something more theyre more scores than use of the ask barnes or you believe that and they sometimes just call it thats a good things that brains like of course that is celebrated internationally and the us love love binds and love to find any kind of course with ancestry i mean theres twenty million scots living in this in the usa so im sure if you were getting over a stick with it if you lived to put it would be a massive hit so first of all youve got an album out called absence is just being doing really well theres doing. 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And they already have its additional music so youve stuck there that maybe if youre on your own take on it is that theres maybe a rhythmic change or maybe a sleep arrangement chines but the millet is the chord melody itself is still there now you like the songs of course yourself and that respect when performing barnes you must take the lead it can understand the thinking behind the amazing rate and four years of drought the brains what would you do you know as a young man from who composes yourself whats your take on him do very little of songs as well. And everyone again you get this elaine one lane in a song we have like a quarter you know like that starts i agree you know youre pretty yourself so one of my songs as absence. 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I online i dont know how you went for musicians make any money capable of that its all that if people didnt know about what they do you know the machine lesson and they and i will thank you said ben thank you thank so much thanks again now always alex with you teaching emails and messages alex anything in the back the biden self Assurance Task this is the probably special from grail for example just a wee request for next week sure does mean a blast to sheena wellington singing a mans a man for all that well damn shit i was on a course was under hog with a shows but ill have a we were up with ryan for the for the end of the show and ive stood a hill says great show guys just Getting Better and better and of a different informative or you listen to folk on still interrupting the gas yeah ill leave the interrupting to does mean his own mcdonalds says really interesting enjoyed the show very much good to hear the dreadful situation in yemen discussed this was one of a large number of messages about the show and to National Development and in particular of the interview of hundred mature under folks from david batty grieve for example says some wealthy people dont want to help repair the damage done by empires and help poor people get at least some of the respect they deserve as human beings and on that same subject to the spec David Rebecca from canada emailed to say i know all the u. 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Benefit of a thirteen billion budget and the oxfam clean Water Project has been running for so many years the horse covers just sit back and take notice sponsibility and to make sure we talk a good outcome in reality these problems never get solved fair enough to them but of course a proper discussion of these issues is probably the first step and having them even better addressed feel to graham says was another great show for an interesting selection of interviewees it makes my thirsty and finally garden says irate imagine get all struggling and settled into whats alex salmon show and then nearly as you hear the man himself one of your tweets cheers eric i take it when im first name terms new right garton gogs of course were in first there. But this is a robert bobb special but after the break will be timing and attention to europe and working out whether the house of lords is going to put a spoke in the blacks it well. 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Last week the bright set bill passed from this place in the house of commons to over here and the house of lords the final government majority and the house of commons was twenty nine which side is comfortable enough but that might still prove difficult because the indications are that the upper house the on elect the chamber the house of lords is about to cut up rough on bricks at a number of logs or make it clear that they are not but by normal conventions and constitutional legislation because they believe the government has no election monday for the hot blacks and furthermore the bill does not have the consent of my of the Scots Parliament or the National Assembly of wales so could we see a matching Unlikely Alliance between the elected representatives of the celtic nations of scotland and wales and the peers of the realm to put a sport so well. One pass not impressed by the potential peals revolt as top tory backbencher and veteran util skeptic bill cash. Chair of the European Scrutiny Committee youre the most experienced of the black city of m. P. s and the lords over here theyre threatening to put a spoke in your bracks wheel so whats your message to the house a lot of the bill for the withdrawal from the European Union which actually includes the repeal of the European Community itself its entirety was passed last week by the house of commons it now has the house of lords we have democratic legitimacy to do with this in the way we have in the house of lords theyre not elected and therefore i would say they dont have democratic legitimacy to butcher the bill or for that matter to do anything to undermine what about the something matching alliance between the house of lords rebels and the scots and Welsh Parliaments billick strictly on the harping about aspects of the bill do you see that imagine alliance as a danger to bracks well as a matter of fact i think the reason why the labor party which we havent mentioned so far themselves they said not in the against the second reading but also against the third reading had as much to do with the labor partys politics regarding the s. N. P. Because actually. They dont want to give any credibility to the s. N. P. But lets just imagine that despite your advice and despite the warnings being given by the Prime Minister and other senior conservatives that the house of lords makes a substantive amendment to the bill or amendments autumn and thats what tactics what ability to supply most of then have to bring the house of lords to heel there is a requirement for the house of lords to accept the outcome of the vote in the house of commons however if they decide not to then there is the parliament tax. And under the poem attack passed in one thousand nine hundred eleven what it says is that they can hold up a bill for a limited period of time i cant give you a precise time the moment its around about eighteen months to do you have eighteen months available to under the pollen tax yes we can prevail but if they were long enough then we might end up with a very serious crisis between the commons and the boards about my information for what its worth the moment is that surely there are enough people in the house of lords despite some extremely tough language and a lot of that said the likelihood is that the number of people combined in the labor party plus the conservative party and sent some if not most of the crossbenches will be enough to prevail so civilian cash youre saying if it comes to a constitutional tussle between the law and the commons it is possible that this could only be decided by another general election i didnt say that what i said was that the threats would be accompanied by a number of clear messages and one of those consequences could be possibly that there are. Actually this action taken to come forward with reform of the house of lords which by the way the lord speaker lord already contemplating said there are many options available short of a general election the danger as i see it in extreme circumstances is that we could be caught up in the time warp of a general election and that that therefore does create difficulties for the government someone who casts thank you very much im delighted to be joined by a list of all robots the parliamentary leader of ply comrie and the house of commons and the stampede tommy shop up in the Cabinet Office spokesman of the s. N. P. Welcome to you both good to. Were delighted to be here no less so robots that summit recent summer a few weeks back if we have the s. N. P. Imply calmly brought to go over the liberals agreed in a whole variety of parties in the house of commons but your empty chair and the labor party because they wouldnt come along to support a Single Market they thought was a bit of a political stunt to have a name to cheer that indicate you were really interested in building a line lets look at the totality here what we were endeavoring to do there was to invite all the leaders of the opposition parties so that we could work as a functioning cooperative coordinating opposition we invited Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn chose not to come there what evidence do you have what really substantive evidence that being the Single Market is going to cause so much economic damage no one can predict the future but the best you can do is look at the evidence and the people who have researched this economists to look at what the effect of that will be have said its going to be i wouldnt use the word disastrous because lets not hype this up but its going to be inflict damage to our economy that doesnt need to happen i know in scotland for example that the effect of coming out of the Single Market would be to lose eighty thousand jobs by twenty thirty theres a pretty broad consensus of scott the boat the Single Market is the same in wales was some roberts or is there a consensus between plight calmly in the labor party and all those the being in the Single Markets important life for wales we are an exporting nation were manufacturing nation were very dependent particularly my constituency on agriculture just look at what we have now and the likelihood that that will be different and if it is different its going to be any better or in all honesty what were doing now and what were discussing here in westminster the terrible irony of it is the degree to which it will be worse test in the commons just last week your grand Parliamentary Alliance for the Single Market was put to the test in a vote and you lost so poor hopeless. The you can actually achieve results if labor would actually get their act together and start working like an Opposition Party wed be able to hold this minority government to a proper account. Does not mean that you had to support that the Scottish Parliament who have to pass the length of the consent motion to this bill if they dont do that will that actually put our alleged spoke in the governments will legislative consent motion is required from the devolved parliaments where the bill and the proof that the legislation affects their operation so obviously a lot of discussions have been going on about the effect of this on t. V. Lucian and we havent yet got an agreement and fight the secretary has reneged on promises to bring forward amendments this month so we wait to see whats to say because the vote for the second state for scotland has as he promised in a direct answer to me in the chamber last month he promised that they would bring forward amendments to the bill at the report stage you should believe under did you well you know you id like to take people as they come you know and the fact sekret state has said one thing in public to the house of commons has done another i think history can judge on his intent obviously but even if the else if the l. C. M. Is not approved by the Scottish Parliament because those arrangements for two evolution are not satisfactory and at the moment they certainly are not then that will present the British Government with a political problem clearly they could override it and drive through because they are not involved and its not a legal problem because this is the it convention as opposed to a legal stipulation the ledge of the consent motion is that your reading of the situation for will the United Kingdom is a unit of four nations what we see in this instance is one of those four nations actually putting itself in a position and choosing to put itself into position to be able to say to the others you do x. Y. And said go big if scotland the Scottish National party m. P. s in the commons applied calmly m. P. s but the. Im a more friendly liberal m. P. Used to the liberals and and green m. P. Theyre jumping up and dont saying we should stay in the Single Market government over which is that last week the Scottish Parliament the welsh National Assembly said the same thing in the distance between the goal your case would be i have no doubt in my mind that the the Westminster Parliament the British Government can and may well over write the wishes of the Scottish Parliament on this matter that is a consequence of scott that not being an independent country is precisely why we want the powers of a normal country to be able to decide these matters for ourselves but if they do override it and and show contempt to the views of those elected parliaments and the nations of the u. K. Then i think they jeopardize the settlement itself and that sucked stage the scottish people will be given an opportunity as to whether the settlement that the government is because eating a bricks it is the United Kingdom they wish to remain part of or whether they would prepare to take back control and negotiate matters for themselves with some robbers do you see of the circumstances of the National Assembly and wills the Scottish Parliament saying no to hard but you might have the cost of the the house the logs we look for a sense wherever we may find it and with whatever organisations we may find it but tom shepherd been that this is governments night in. Bombs the voyage of the the common man and internationalism you dont have to tell us of the Scottish National party are going to rely in the house of lords to give you the political clout to stop the government we dont rely on the house of lords at all alec and i mean for some of your viewers may not know but of course britain is one of the few countries in the world where a majority of the parliamentarians are not elected to school and they more people in the house the last rise in the house and probably most of all is the upper house as they sometimes describe it is you know its stuff full of appointed eristic rats who represent no one who are a cuttable to no one so thats what they want you can do they can throw it i mean thats why we. Dont take part in it but if they can throw a technical spoke in the governments wheels then i will be applauding them in doing that i would much rather though that we had an elected Second Chamber that represented the people rather than one that represents the aristocracy the house the logs might look at the governments lack of monday from the general election for the type of blacks at this event moving towards their look at what happens in scotland wales the absence of an assembly normile and at the present moment and. Feel that is a legitimate indication that the governments bill could be stopped you think thats a serious possible but i think they certainly should consider that and in fact even going back before that they should consider whether or not whats happening reflects the mandate of the people in june twenty sixth seen when they voted in the press that referendum because leaving the Customs Union leaving the Single Market turning our backs on all things european was not on the ballot paper people voted to leave the e. U. Not to have the hardest of hard bracks its the tories want to want to take us through looking at the state of play in the negotiations what is your assessment from a scottish perspective of how the governments proceeded. Well i think its a pretty dire report card really in terms of what the government started in what is it now more than eighteen months since the referendum and we still are no clearer as to what lifes going to look like after practice and what its actually going to mean a list for a wealth of their government the interests of wales been taken into. The government as the suit these negotiations with your uncle the e. U. Negotiations stance say on agriculture on fishery all these other brics it measures that were expecting but suppose that were expecting until we know what the position is going to be we cant really start putting these bills forward here for several Robertson Thomas schaeffer thank you so much for the interview now have some good news before you go or your title to the quit the loving cup of governor of a cup of kindness and on bobs might what could be more suitable until of presenting a queer to you both thank you. Jill simonian x. X. Thank you. 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International this thursday morning where its just gone Eleven Oclock here in moscow now the turkish president has announced a plan to extend his countrys military operation against Kurdish Forces in syria which ankara calls terrorists the fight will now move to positions held by u. S. Backed kurdish groups in the town of man beach and its feared that that could lead to direct confrontation with american troops. Of. The operation weve launched named olive branch to cleanse our friend of terrorists is successful and the way starting from men beach we will continue for them to games which are being played along our borders and we will cleanse our region completely of this trouble. So heres a closer look at what is happening there this is the border between turkey and syria with the areas in yellow held by Kurdish Militia militias in the west you can see the african region to where the Turkish Operation originally began and then to the east of that in green there are rebel groups backed by turkey both will now push for the reste towards that town of man bridge heres how the operation has proceeded so far i. Think that they are not they are hiring tanks with tanks to move like this we did nothing to help them get protection our land in their beliefs and we started that we have to sleep in the cellar because of the bombs we are free to go out on the streets what do you want from us well knelt on land they should steve pearce the author on matter how many planes and missiles please send this is on land will not leave it to do what i do and. What were hearing from the turkish president is that he will now extend his military operation in Northern Syria to include the town of mann bridge now once the Turkish Military moves into man bridge this could potentially put the turkish army in direct conflict with the forces belonging to a major turkish nato ally namely the United States washington is known to have some two thousand special forces on the. Ground in syria and while none of them are thought to be in the afrin area they are deployed amongst various kurdish enclave said include the town of man bridge now man bridge is controlled by u. S. Backed kurdish syrian fighters at the same time we are hearing from the turkish president that more than two hundred and fifty syrian kurds as well as Islamic State fighters have been killed by the turkish army and allied forces in the past few days these figures are being disputed by the kurdish side who is also accusing and career of civilian casualties this despite the fact that we are hearing from turkey that they are trying to avoid civilian deaths as far as possible now the american President Donald Trump has called for and is urging a deescalation and a limit in the military operation that and create is conducting in Northern Syria it is now the sixth day since the Turkish Military moved across the border and no doubt in the coming hours and days the situation on the ground will only intensify that was our middle east correspondent paula slayer will International Relations professor hussein bag she told us that turkey and the u. S. Are on a collision course in syria the split vision rolled up turkey in a very short period. Of. Stop. Just want to go to. Get much more control of. The turkish presence. Another level of corn from persian we have regional conflict on the one hand but also alliance. Cancer is that the american side toward this isnt going to work for you is not going to stand. On the floor this is somehow. A warning clear by the americans for the turkish president the confrontation between turkey and the nice thing for america is getting more and more likely while the conflict in Northern Syria is already spilling over the border into turkey several missiles hit the turkish town of killis on wednesday killing two people and injuring a dozen more a mosque and a residential building were also damaged local Officials Say the rockets were fired from africa meanwhile in europe there have been protests over turkeys actions and some of them have turned violent. I. Think. I. Was. I. Was. I i. Now pakistani doctor who turned out to be the key in finding asama bin laden looks set to spend the rest of his life in jail pakistans authorities arrested him soon after the u. S. Operation in may of twenty eleven on allegations of helping militants to u. S. President s have promised to release him but its now been seven years more gassy if takes up the story. You can argue dr Shakil Afridi helped catch these centurys most wanted man the man who did this. During the. Sama bin laden you can also argue he was a traitor and a fraud it all depends on where youre from the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama Bin Laden the leader of al qaeda tonight we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome gratitude though has its limits dr afridi set up a Fake Vaccination Program in the area bin laden was hiding in in order to collect his familys d. N. A. And give the cia proof he was there clever shortly after bin laden was eliminated dr afridi was arrested by pakistani intelligence and sentenced to thirty three years. In. Two thousand and eleven of being money to the militants that. He was assisting in medical term that he was making some. News the hospital i met him in. In june and he said that i am innocent and the charges they are totally illegal dr afridi was first accused of aiding local militants and then of murdering a patient though how fair those charges is debatable a bomber tried and failed to get him out donald trump well trump is trump do you you think. Yes i do i think i would get them out in two minutes i would tell them and im sure theyd let them out it didnt fly it even upset the pakistanis a little being threatened with blackmail its been almost two years since trump made his both stand nothing the man who helped catch some of bin laden v icon of terrorism is rotting away in jail we believe dr afridi has been unjustly imprisoned and have clearly communicated our position to pakistan on dr afridis case both in public and in private and the us well they bring it up once in a while thats what gratitude is worth nowadays. We spoke to the former cia officer Philip Giraldi he doesnt see washington making any real effort to free the dr i was an Intelligence Officer when people are caught spying for another country. That country does not like to let them freeze so its its actually something that trump did not understand if the pakistanis. Enter into some kind of discussion and trump feels that he can be generous or or do something that world will enable this man to get free then he might do it but i dont know what that would be of what the circumstances would be but there are already having serious discussions about the the money that the United States gives the pakistan the United States has been suspending some of that money and not giving it to them so the pakistanis are not are not interested in doing any favors for washington i think that is very clear. Now teen russia is expected to be dealt another shattering blow just weeks before the winter games get underway in south korea and then pick chiefs look set to ban one hundred russian athletes including major medal hopes whove never failed a test it is in response to accusations of widespread doping in russia dating back to the last games in sochi the International Olympic Committee Said those banned could be the focus of further investigations a comprehensive list of who can go to pyongyang will be published at the weekend but it is thought the russian team will be slashed by around a fifth to just under four hundred athletes thomas but the i. O. C. President has suggested that team russia is being made an example of. The i. O. C. Wanted to give clean russian athletes the opportunity to participate and give the young the new generation of clean russian athletes the opportunity to be at the Olympic Games and be ambassadors for a new clean russian sport all those septimus active include russias next generation of athletes and also more stablish stars to light by athlete anton shapiro in and the speed skater victor on neither have ever tested positive for banned substances their exclusion has drawn much criticism im against the fact that athletes my colleagues who if works for ages to participate in this huge forum would be punished as well in my opinion thats politics those who are involved must be punished but you cannot point a finger at the whole country i believe that some werent involved but theyre being tarred with the same brush because a sport should not be used as a tool for politicians. Games should be a celebration for the sporting world and for the athletes who have worked so hard for this event and done nothing wrong sport should unite people with russia should be sanctioned if the allegations are proven as anyone should but there is no country that has never been guilty of doping the north americans in lecturing the rest of the world but we havent forgotten where Lance Armstrong came from open johnson off of a motor spoke exclusively to to the swedish ice hockey star and is carson and the canadian coach Scott Macpherson for their views on playing russian athletes being sidelined. I think its awful i think russia should go with the best team because they have the best hockey players out side the show. Its going to be sad for the tournament but the best russian is not tom i think they have to be able to do it a little older so they dont affect us like three four weeks before the olympics so its a big. Think its somewhat misguided in that i think most of the players on the Russian Olympic Team or other athletes from russia team that are going to be in korea they were even in the last olympics Everybody Knows really a culture because Everybody Knows who you know the great figure skaters are so at the end of the day you know if the russians win in hockey or if an individual figure skater or somebody wins they know who they are and everyone knows who they are and they appreciate them as athletes and the hard work and sacrifice that theyve made to be able to compete at the olympic level the players that are on the russian team are guys that we played against from the time we were little kids we know that theyre clean lead. And unfortunately politics seems to be slipping into athletics the next really not get. A look at other student in moscow high shared online the gruesome details of him murdering and raping his flatmate before committing suicide the incident has left the russian public stunned with paper describing the man as a promising student from a good family our correspondent in your went to the heist where they lived and spoke to their neighbors you might find some parts of his report disturbing. This is the area where our entity out rented their flat together the fetter of moscow very close together in the universities where they study they seem to have everything to enjoy their lives in the capital. The students were once in a relationship but after breaking up they continued to share a flat in the building right there it turned out to be unbearable for our. Some believe thats the right entrance they lived on the ground floor and one social media post described everything he did behind these walls on one horrifying winter night. It was late art he had been drinking when to tianna and heard a room he started punching the details of what was happening there and the next few hours are forty grisly to go into and this report but it included stabbing rape and necrophilia. After what everyone i guess would call a psychotic frenzy. Hanged himself this is the entrance to their flat with a Police Notice but the shouldnt be the most challenging investigation for the authorities the couples whole lives were out there on their social media accounts for everyone to see and art films very long suicide note that he posted on his account was a full description of what happened that night where he explained his motivation. This is a very small section of the building with very few apartments and none of the neighbors here agreed to talk to us i was made for this which you. Will. But once the curator guard outside agreed to share some details will you still want to smoke this group of. Those that would pull down the slopes of. Your little some oh this is so much children look at the people on the roof. Of this beautiful. Jealousy had rage often led to kwanzaa passion weve seen it in movies read about it in books but seldom before have we experienced it so vividly thanks to the killer of the victims of sessions with social media. Ok lets just bring you some breaking news that this affirmation he were a commuter train has derailed now the city of man during rush hour there these are live pictures were looking at now from the same its been reported that three people have been killed and ten others are in a Critical Condition with more than one hundred people suffering from minor injuries some passages passengers are still reportedly trapped in the wreckage and that seems to be confirmed by the pictures were looking at as a service is to continue their work the accident occurred some forty kilometers outside of milan of course well keep you updated but thats the latest. Here there are things still to come for you this hour jim and judges being criticized for removing a crucifix from his courtroom to show really just tolerance well have the details on that story just after the break. Thats. What politicians do something to. Put themselves on the line. To get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president. Or somehow want to. Have to go right to be close thats what before three of them or cant be good. Interesting falls in the waters in the. First six. With our say now a german judge has caused outrage in a trial in bavaria for removing a crucifix from his court room at the request of an Asylum Seeker the afghan man is suspected of threatening to kill a fellow countryman for converting to christianity our europe correspondent peter all of a has been following the trial. This judge in the Bavarian Alps has found himself in the eye of a storm thats after he ordered that a crucifix be removed from his courtroom during the trial of an afghan asylum up look and accused of trying to kill another afghan who convert to christianity its a move thats called for in the strongly Catholic States as well as in german tabloid media the judge says he made the move in order to show religious tolerance how can i educate the defendant to move away from his beliefs he thinks jihad exists between christians and islamists and so i did not think it wise to condemn him under the cross i do not care if there is a cross or not when the judge addressed this issue in court i just dont really understand the problem bosses in the Bavarian Ministry of justice say this should never have been an issue in the first place. The presence of crosses in courtrooms does not prevent the state from up holding religious and ideological neutrality. Religious rights for christine converts in germany is a hot issue particularly in places like my eyes back the toll on the border with austria is where many refugees and migrants either arrived or at least passed through in twenty fifteen and the move by judge schmidt has prompted a ferocious backlash on social media dear bulgarian people this is a slap in the face of all christians do you still want to trample on your christian will lose the rag jagjit school of me at a loss for words such an irony in the trial of afghan islamists judge class youre against me it takes Christopher Guest from the war of the courtroom the sophisticated islamization in this country continues judge klaus youre going schmidt are you insane such a disgrace this story comes as the trial of a different failed asylum applicant from afghanistan is underway in a nearby town in southern germany in that case a thirty eight year old woman was brutally stabbed to death in front of her small children the prosecution say that the motive behind the killing was that she had converted to christianity the trial is expected to continue for several more days peter all over r. T. Berlin. Now the u. S. President is on his way to switzerland at the moment to take part in the pro globalist Economic Forum in davos but to the surprise of many at the Luxury Resort donald trump is going to promote his famous mantra America First u. S. Transportation secretary has given her response to those questioning trumps appearance. America first is a continuation of the american affirmation of american exceptionalism so i dont think well i think this you know all these questions are why the president is coming and again i think all of us to feel very flattered that he has chosen this as a forum. For those that dont want to listen to him you can they can leave you know this is part of what discourse and discussion is all about well only this week thousands of people did march through the streets into europe to denounce trumps visit to switzerland and the entire gathering in davos to the u. S. President is expected to be met with a huge protest in divorce itself which was called for this thursday despite a ban from the local authority. The pentagons draft of the upcoming u. S. Nuclear policy review has been leaked and this reports have already suggested it does appear to confirm a reversal in strategy for the coming year america looks set to expand its Nuclear Capabilities and experts to say could make the idea of using the weapons much easier changes will be made to submarine missiles which will be reconfigured Nuclear Tests could also be resumed while the modernization of the u. S. Nuclear arsenal will focus on smaller weapons but the former head of National Nuclear security does question whether washington can afford it. We are working pretty much at full capacity weve never done more than one Life Extension Program at a time since the end of the cold war were now doing essentially four. Well the league to review outlining u. S. Intentions to update and upgrade its Nuclear Weapons has been criticised many of highlighted Donald Trumps Nuclear Button right with the north Korean Leader as an example of the possible danger is a Nuclear Studies director peter because nick thinks that this modernization will increase the possibility of military conflict by the main fear is that theyre going to carry out these modernization programs within the context of the modernization yes the faster they do it the sloppier it becomes and the more dangerous it becomes so were concerned about Nuclear Safety but even if there is no concern about Nuclear Safety the fact that we have these new modernized weapons means that the threat of nuclear war increases and increases exponentially. International thanks being with us this morning were going to be back with more news for you just over half. Of the stand here for some. Of what i saw. 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Test hollywood guy usual suspects every proud american first of all im just george bush and intervened to say this is my buddy max famous financial guru and were just a little bit different on this day Abraham Lincoln or not theyre going to win those up with all the drama happening in our country and im shooting the brood have fun meet Everyday Americans. And hopefully start to bridge the gap this is the Great American people. This is boom bust were coming to you from the world Economic Forum to russia house is davos switzerland im partial to coming up its not all traditional finance here in davos in fact were going to be talking Digital Currencies and watches plus well discuss c. E. O. Activism in our social media plus a lot more but first lets get headlines on todays business and financial do with ashley banks actually. There are very moody of india became the first indian Prime Minister to address the world economic. Davos switzerland on tuesday modi defended corporate globalization while ignoring indias recent tariffs on many high tech imports disappointing some supporters and the Business Press will have more on the modi speech and an interview with one of the indian ministers at davos later in the show. Chairman ancyl weber told the outlets that the swiss bank when it trade or offer bit points to clients oversight of fears that increasing regulation in the Crypto Market would have adverse effect leading to a massive drop and value south korea has been debating whether or not to ban bitcoin exchanges specific businesses that handle the buying and selling of Digital Currency fears of Money Laundering and tax evasion or the main concerns and its peak bitcoin was worth more than twenty thousand dollars its. Well the blotching making a major gains over the past year cryptocurrency has managed to grab the eyes of many in the Financial Sector the topic has even managed to make its way to the world Economic Forum in davos this week are gay americans barred shelton managed to catch up with Alexander Burger at a big name and block chain were here at russia house in davos and were with alexander borrowed to choose the c. E. O. Of universal a block chain and as the name implies youre a block Chain Company youve just done a razor. Initial Coin Offering tell us about that yeah we actually were able to. Crawl out seal called sale thought see it almost thought to mean none of us dollars unfortunately we got that all there and monte increased the currency so i cannot tell you for sure how much money it is due to create that so from this perspective. That financial situations and banks may use that liquidity olson this digital cash as a. Instant payments across the congress across the board us because in this case are such a system as. For example theyre way slower and way more expansive so banks will definitely switch to to the Block Chain Solutions as they did for example who was a people if you had to alexander make a decision i know this is a tough one between sort of which will be more valuable either blocked chain all of the block cant Companies Companies like universe are out there or Digital Currency is sort of the capital intensive endeavor blog chain all the Digital Currencies which one do you think holds the longest promise for value i think thrusts next couple of years the definitely there cryptocurrency market will continue to born then but and their end of the day always for the infrastructure competence always been so we will see i think from on the horizon the five to seven the years that all those companies who will build up the next infrastructure products there will definitely when we will we may see it for example Google Google is kind of them in the the whole i would say the from the provider in the internet as a soras till those sort of through his own smartphones. But they are i think of themselves as Infrastructure Company im curious how did you get involved in this whole thing doing a nice c. E. O. And being involved in the black gene im a serial entrepreneur but actually a couple of years ago i went to the venture and thats the point of my life and i was one of the most active business angelos in russia i have personal investment through a lot of companies and several of them war in the block chance here like for example shapeshifter. And i saw they are growth during the several years and understand that it was. So enormously high so it could not awarded and i decided to jump in and to this new knees and build up my own company here its very exciting as its absolutely exciting and are you a Digital Currency investor yourself yes of course since to some in fourteen you must be in bitcoin yes at that point of time there was no affair and so actually in there i bought my first big quien it was like twenty eight twenty one hundred sixty years dollars and then during the whole two sudden thought see in the bitcoin went down so i felt like like an idiot what what what what what why did they such a mistake but at the end of that they currently its about ten thousand the us dollars burglar alexander were owed its c. E. O. A universe of black jane thank you for being with us. More coming up from the world Economic Forum here at russia house in davos but as we take a quick break here are the numbers at the closing bell. And. What politicians to do something to. Put themselves on the line. 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Rama rowe of the state of talent gonna in india of course and mr minister im curious you are you got a big work load of things on your plate but you have put a lot of money into i. T. And Information Technology explain why thats so important to you and why youre putting your money where your mouth has been on this issue firstly i must tell you india has been in this trend has been Human Resources india strength has been its a large pool of young population which today in the knowledge economy that was. Continues to thrive and i think is extremely important because there are talent the absolute. You know have a little to solve problems come up with solutions is what makes indian youngsters extremely special and the world has come to recognize it so therefore if you look at indian demographic more than fifty percent of india is less than the age of twenty seven so i think thats what thats what makes it extremely attractive for Large Enterprises to come in and set up their Large Development Centers Technology Services Centers and they in the ip enabled Services Space and has been extremely attractive for a large number of them so why is it important because it creates great deal of employment it creates creates a great deal of Value Proposition for the Large Enterprises that i just mentioned and i think its been going to chew a sion for both the investor from a return on investment perspective and from a government perspective from the local government perspective creates employment on lot skitt and it also offers ability for indian youngsters to experience the global way of doing Business India has certainly changed a lot youve got bright brilliant people that are the envy of the world in many cases doing great a. Things all over the world but a lot of people i think particularly in the states know that there are many Call Center Jobs in india and is that shifted into more of a high tech area than just the Call Center Jobs the back office jobs if you will absolutely in fact like i said you know indias biggest strength is its its large think force. And it definitely is an emerging trend that india and indians Young Indians especially dont want to be known as you know the back office of the world the Tech Services the call center of the world therefore you see a lot of Product Companies coming out of india a lot of new Age Tech Companies which provide solutions not just for india but also for the rest of the world coming up out of india and you see a lot of startups taking a great deal of. Market space in countries outside of india to markets outside of india so i see this as an emerging trend over the next one decade because i think whats extremely important for us to understand is if you look at the fortune top hundred of the forbes stop hundred between all of them cumulatively theyre not going to be able to create a great deal of employment in the next decade or so in fact the next wave of growth has to come from innovation has to come from startups has to come from Product Companies who is who are going to be the large scale employment generators because if you think back to fifteen years there wasnt a google there wasnt a twitter there wasnt a facebook and these are the companies these are the enterprises that have created jobs by the millions today and the spinoffs and their developers et cetera et cetera but youve created image of spawned out literally millions of jobs so i strongly believe the next decade or next two decades most definitely going to be the era of startups and thats where youngsters who have the ability to connect ability to compete across the globe are going to matter and thats what indias strength. And mr minister you know here at davos the whole concept is about you know a globalized community trying to come up with some sort of consensus enough in a fractured world given the whats going on in the world and the u. S. The sort of taken a back seat to more globalized harmonised effort do you think that increases the pressure on places like india and china that have had really robust g. D. P. Growth over the last several years is there more of a an onus on them to speak up and sort of fill the void that was once filled by u. S. Leadership the strength of india actually lays in our unity in diversity because it has always been of a heterogenous country you know it weve we are official languages are twenty two unofficial languages of three hundred you know the costs of the communities that are religions and the diverse composition of the country that we are in fact india is not a country its United States of india its actually a continent if you ask me so therefore with all of its heterogeneity with all of its diversity i think india india has been a shining example for the rest of the world on how in spite of our differences in spite of our. Composition in spite of our in spite of the number of things that separate us how we can move together as a nation as a as a as an entity i think thats what the world once today because there are number of things that separate us you know the color of our skin our religion opinions our divergent views our economic status as well i think end of the day were all human beings and were all book into which one goal and that is a peaceful happy existence for our children and our future generations so that i think india is going to great example on how to forge ahead in spite of your differences in spite of all the all the things that kind of separate you and i think thats thats exactly what the world needs to minister katy ram a row thank you so much for being with us sir appreciate your. Its very much well little calling gauge men on the rise across many countries in the world we are seeing some of the activists communities who we won it really expect and recent times we have seen even c e os take to social media to have their voices heard the activists sentiment has even made its way to davos and has become a topic among the many at the world Economic Forum where children managed to catch up with Suzanne Mueller rozanne top in davos who tells us what she thinks of the issues. And were still here at the world Economic Forum in davos switzerland and pleased to be joined by Suzanne Mueller zantop who is the founder of c. E. O. Positions a g. Suzanne welcome thank you very much for the invitation brad and happy to be here and let me ask you theres been this big increase in c. E. O. And c. Street activism around the world and why do you think thats occurring absolutely i think there has been a couple of things that that on top of each other the first thing is that you had a lot of political and economic major major events happening such as brecht said such as the european refugee crisis such as the temple action the us china relationships etc so it became increasingly difficult for see us to keep quiet to stand away from all of this because it was affecting their companies and their people now theres theres also a risk right to doing this or is that theres some negatives its not just all positive right it seems to me that there is a risk which is to keep quiet and there is a lot of opportunity on the Positive Side if you speak up for instance there was this test being done of the people divided into two groups one group got a message that tim cook the c. E. O. Of apple did speak out in favor of a deeply t. S. Use and that control group didnt get any such message and guess who was more likely to buy a product this pied there may be adversity against algebra two issues they were the group who had known about tim cooks involvement was a much more likely to buy a product if you had just a couple pieces of advice for c. E. O. s as they enter this sort of area what would you suggest i would say theres a couple of things you should do first i mean since we are in this alpine environment yeah picture a mountain it doesnt have to be the highest. Mountain but it has to be a mountain that is worth persevering and that is take one battle at a time and make sure that you can stick with that theme for quite some time second get your health check up get your analytics like what we do as a firm we provide analytics for c. E. O. s to measure their exposure and their risk that theyre at in terms of communication and that is super helpful also after a health check up you know that the smartest work for you and then get your gear which is set up your twitter account set up all the other channels make sure you have the right types of followers and then get going what are the Communication Channels that these c. E. O. s are using are the is it facebook is it twitter whats the best way for them to get out there but activism as fast and its global so what can he use a person who totally like twitter for it because it replicates so quickly and its near real time and then of course t. V. And if you combine the two even better and i must imagine suzanne that some of these all star g. Communications departments at some of the big Fortune Five Hundred Companies etc they must just be sweating bullets when their c. E. O. Says they want to twitter handle how do they have to deal with this circumstance and how the c. E. O. s deal with entering into the new social media world. It seems that theres two groups of people and some are a bit afraid of a c. E. O. Being out of control which is a perception yeah and then there are others who are completely totally relieved that they now can work on the Positive Side of things seriously it has set a good thing you know i mean you have excelled in crisis communication so hey lets make this a better world suzanne as you know. Ager theme here in in davos at the world Economic Forum is trying to get consensus in a fractured world and youve talked about the positives the bottom line for c. E. O. s getting involved in social media but weve also talked about the social area and how theyre doing things to be responsible around the planet which person or persons would you think would be sort of the number one tweet or facebook or whos followed both of these twin missions of dealing with socially important issues and with the bottom line of their business i would say yes and if you look at people like Richard Branson from virgin france since he promotes all these are Environmental Issues and goes for education then you have howard child from starbucks who girls proimmigration and even as promises to quit jobs using social media to promote that message you know and i think that is the cup or more if you if you take a little bit deeper you see people like even not all from from g. M. From ford from companies who are you not associated with technology in the first place but now mark moore who are taking on the medium until theyre promoting their causes i thought that was my last question but ive got one more for you i think our boom bust viewers might think i was derelict in my duties if i didnt ask you what you think of president Donald Trumps tweeting habits ok. What i like is that he brings a very opinionated message into one hundred forty characters. I dont like is everything that happens at four am because maybe at that point in time your brain doesnt really work as well. Suzanne muellers then top founder of c. E. O. Positions a. G. Thank you so much for being with us. Thats all for now from davos will be back tomorrow check out boom bust that you tube you tube dot com slash boom bust our teeth. About your sudden passing ive only just learned you worry yourself in taking your last wrong turn. 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