All now theyre getting a sweetheart deal from a company ministration to bring that money back ladies it too is going to create infrastructure create factories create jobs going to buy back their own stocks own reaching shareholders and ciders and executives again a massive ponzi scheme called Apple Computer Apple Computer is a ponzi scheme Berkshire Hathaway or their biggest shareholders thats a ponzi scheme the stock markets upon his game the bond market is certainly apologies game the u. S. Dollar is the mother of all games but coin is the only thing thats not a ponzi scheme again so the tax cuts. Makes it more advantageous to book these profits over here in the United States bring this two hundred fifty six billion dollars from overseas to here but theyre also predicting in this report in barrons about apple buying twenty five percent of his company so its going to be like twenty five percent shareholder theyre going to be the most of their own companies are taking themselves private asked thats taking themselves partially private if you give these corporations free money to buy back their own stock at no cost if you allow jeff bezos to buy. All food without any cost to him whatsoever its a creative it goes on the bottom line the day one its zero cost is just adding up the well thats what i say like Swiss National bank has zero cost to print swiss francs because especially this no longer the world has its own private its no longer put on very little to do to listen they hear theyre saying that apples going to spend an additional one hundred seventy three billion on top of the already you know several billion that they were doing on share buybacks so most of its going to be front loaded into this year basically theyre doing mike Browns Bottom gordon brown when he sold all the u. K. s gold announced it to the world were going to sell all our gold drove the price down got the guarantee lowest price for the United Kingdom here apples guaranteeing the highest price ever paid for apple to buy these hundred seventy three billion dollars worth of shares theyre saying that this is going to be front loaded into twenty eighteen most of the share buying will happen this year and those of us who are not participating in this game called central bank Apple Computer Warren Buffett trifecta of fraud are going to be put out on to the surf slave circulation waves yeah were going to be surfing. Surfing on the ups and downs of the stock market after manipulation of their fake money and their fake i didnt know who i did just go surfing on the ocean of free money as it comes crashing in on the on the other sure. All right more coming your way after the break dont go away. I think there is indeed a potential kind of come out of this impasse something to many mainstream remains by next week the u. N. Peace operation this is a very sensitive politically contributing countries to be live in chile offer troops to decide. They have confidence in a small. Group. Welcome back to the kaiser report i max kaiser time now visit with adela alone she is a finn lawyer n n o g a cipher punk oh mike this is going to be cool adele a welcome. Thank you tell us about your background what led you to bit coy. Well i first learned about bitcoin in two thousand and one i know. So i was working in the gold industry in two thousand and one we founded this company and actually ran an online gold backed Payment System and built them as well and we did about what liebling and what not so it was first then that i sort of got introduced into the world of like the possibility of a of a not centralized currency an alternative to what we had going on for you know centralized actors so the cypherpunk label goes back to this period of time in other words obviously big play in the way paper was in two thousand and eight of the issue of it goes back. Years before that in terms of looking at dish actualize ways to create value to sun value Different Companies have been trying to do that for a while and your background goes all the way back into the early early days yeah yeah actually i worked with some people that had formerly worked at eagled and eagled was probably the first clarence in Settlement System of micro payments and so thats thats thats thats a whole beginning of bitcoin i think thats when the conversation really started to materialize into software right and you are already in the Legal Business law of not at not at all not at all i was in the business of building things and you know and working with teams to to build these systems out to build a build out these protocols so it was well into Technology Yes and then a lot of what got you into the law side of the legal side thats actually really interesting because you know we reached a point post nine eleven where people were going to jail and starting to seriously you know crazy things like i think our conversations are be monitored we started to see the closure of Bank Accounts with. Bank accounts that we previously banks that we prevent previously worked. And so as we say i was getting real right not sure if i can say that but it was the. It was getting real and i thought wow i Love Technology i love to build stuff i love this ecosystem i love the idea of having an alternative to a centralized authority having a monopoly over how and when we can move value and so i thought i need to understand the regulations behind all of this i cant no couple of pramod youre in the gold space yet and we had a couple prominent people in the gold space like a peter schiff for example Origin Records for example folks and they dont seem to really understand but coiner their ante by calling or their big client skeptics so you know youre somebody whos been in the business for a while youre in the legal space what are they going wrong wow i mean do you want to be. Look at im going to take it back to something that i use in that i see in my in my in you know in practice all the time and its that were dealing with regulators for years and back in two thousand and fourteen twenty fourteen i thought twenty thirteen twenty fourteen ok these guys have a long time to figure this out this is new its exciting the value propositions obviously there you know in the form of the white paper we started seeing the b. T. N. Companies coming out so the regulators really do have time to figure it out but its twenty eighteen and we still not really far ahead from where we were in twenty thirteen i think its the same of these guys i think theres a lot of intellectual laziness going on and i know a lot of them are super super prominent. You know intelligent but have you know this is coming from those guys is that there are skeptics and they have arguments but theyre not the arguments that one would think one would use against but claim because there are some arguments i can be made against bit coy but they never used those arguments they is kind of. Act made ideas about tulip bulbs and things like this but let me move on for a second here so let me get your take on the perennial question that folks are which is the means of exchange versus store a value question you know the white paper is called digital cash essentially a digital Payment System digital cash so it because it started off really as a medium of exchange and it wasnt all the last couple of years or so that actually this idea of a store of value took off and people started buying it as a store of value and of course the fees have made the medium of Exchange Argument problematic and youve got bitcoin cash coming around saying hey you know weve got a solution to this how do you weigh in on that debate well yeah thats thats actually a big one because we need both things for a currency to actually be successful you know it needs to be a store of value and it needs to be we need to be able to transact in it easily and were seeing problems on the second part of that. I think because it has turned into like a sort of holdall tourism destiny mobile target a little less like a. I just booked well. So its kind of like the the the the maximalist idea of holding on to every single big queen that you have and never ever transacting in it and thats become very very popular especially in the sort of like underbelly of the space and on the other side of that were seeing a lot of tourisms i have people writing me daily in my inbox i mean posting about this for ever from jump like you ive been talking about it forever posting articles and people are now writing me emails like hey how can i buy stock in the big koreans how can i get rich online with bitcoin so. I think you know one of the problems is adoption were getting there were getting so adoption another huge problem with that is understanding and then people taking the time not to time to really understand what it is so sad about real attack vectors ok because now that because i jamie diamond was a skeptic now hes saying i regret having called it a fraud hes done a mayor culpa essentially but the Central Banks the world the big banks the World Governments are starting get nervous that maybe theyre really taxes going to be diminished because everyones in the crypto space and theres no way to track them down thats going to be a problem for their coffers you know so that governments this is now on their radar some governments are taking it on board like venezuela started crypto russia is looking at crypto and these are countries that have been kind of manipulated by the u. S. Dollar and its status as role reserve currency and it backed by the pentagon really and so theyve got a whole new geo political element youre in the legal aspect of this what do you see as a genuine call an attack vector or a or vulnerability or problem of because Going Forward oh my god so real world application the banks are i would see the hugest problem right now just in use every single day and use case and the problems is the problem is where you know the where where do the banks stop and the regulators start and so i think by by extension banks have acted out and they are refusing. All the major Bitcoin Companies Bank Accounts so theres a bit of a system de under that set up on ramp is choked because there decrypt conversion is controlled still by the bank absolutely and youre saying the what the not ready but you say. System the system do yeah theres a french term it is yeah which means kind of. Chaos making. Sense out of key. Yeah its also an economics term where people sort of transact and find ways around the status quo what is different or that culture Missile System day bed today dave. Barry day or ers or Something Like that. Have a live in france for a while its as if it was somebody says are you going to do that its a common cold localism to say system de france just means i just fuss futz around to get it through to something somewhere so this is what the the the principle guiding big coiners through the bank. Blockade is is to just wing it. Well to wing it ive seen ive heard that you know some people. Probably misrepresent what the count is being used for of course you know auditors figure out you know be queen is involved through you know wires to the registered exchanges queen bees etc come cumberland which is a proprietary trading firm they track it down and we shut them down to give them couple days sometimes if theyre nice or they just get shut down overnight and so theres a lot of banking tourism thats going on right now people just moving from bank to bank seeking. A more hospitable situation and what i have seen a lot of is you know companies having to ten you know even more than that Bank Accounts right so youve got a portfolio of Bank Accounts and youre trying to cover your bases you know Different Countries are vying to become quote coin switzerland they want to be they see this as a Competitive Edge they want the business they want the technologists they want to be the leaders in this field what countries are leading this remember isle of man was considered to be a forefront or a forerunner of this sorts of what itself is looking like its an attractive space what countries. Are kind of in the good position to be leading the charge we do a lot of jurisdictions and we you know seen a lot of good things out of switzerland whats becoming a little overplayed and i know for example one of the Companies One of the major exchanges right now is having a problem right now because swiss want them to register as some sort of you know not a Financial Institution but kind of a Financial Institution and to do k y c over amounts of five thousand dollars. So what im seeing is a shift right now to the Eastern Caribbean Eastern Caribbean ok. Well yeah. And i think the regulators so far have been very receptive. Theyve learned a hard let her learn a hard lesson this will be never say do things. Dami domenica yes so they also have the ability for people to buy citizenship from these places in the caribbean. For a couple hundred thousand bucks you can buy a passport if see them now or its becoming leaders in the script the space as well i hope so i would love to see that i want to see more interaction with you know with the Crypto Companies and the regulators because the regulators are asking questions theres a think tank down there that i do some work with that ive you know done some peepers for theyre asking the questions i would love to see that that that space dominated by that area well since yours for a second or so. I see zero zip will Coin Offering this twenty seventeen we saw billions of dollars raised by hundreds of i. C. s this summer during the summer the f. C. C. Said most of these i suppose are securities of course that you know they have to make that distinction whats happening in the i. C. A. O. Market i believe you represent i. C. A. O. Companies and youre youre doing so from a legal perspective whats happening in the size you know space were Going Forward so my firm we do a sort of soup to nuts type thing you know from the very beginning we often deal with issues on the backend you know so that it represents what happens on the front end because theres a lot of issues with that. You know there there are a lot of different types of. Products being offered through these i suppose i think you know my feeling on it is like do you really need to raise one hundred sixty Million Dollars in two minutes apart on our tap probably not we have about ten seconds to say growth in that area yet there is that there is immense growth in twenty eight teams and other leading another big growth area absolutely but i also see the coming down on it a lot harder than they have and also they are looking at these tokens to see whether it is a you know a purely utilities he took in our candy crush coin or a security right yeah adults along the israel gaza report thank you so much for having me all right well thats going to do it for this edition of the cause report with me most other states arab or i guess adel its a loan if you want to reach us on twitter its kaiser report so next time. Well willingly accepted the risk of being shot wounded taken prisoner but not signed up to be friggin poisoned by our own people ive seen you self that was leaked or biological and Chemical Products the said do not truck tires all types of styrofoam polystyrene batteries trucks there was a complete denial i think at all levels of government that there was any connection between. And what these brave soldiers were suffering from to compensate every soldier marine airman and sailor that was on the ground that are complaining about the old this is from their exposure from the burn pit would really literally sound to be a gross and they dont want to pay it so theyre waiting decades a lot of those soldiers will die in time and they will have to pay. For help and get the middle finger to be used to. Do. Join me every thursday ill be all excitement and ill be speaking to us in the world of politics all this those im show business ill see you the. Moment welcome to worlds apart indivisible security in europe has been a diplomatic talking point for decades but the lack of agreement on what it means or how to bring it about has contributed to a number of conflicts including the one in ukraine has the ballance effectively buried the idea of security for all or has it on the country and made it more viable to discuss that im now joined by Thomas Browning the new secretary general of the organization for Security Cooperation in europe mr graham and your think here very much for your time has been roughly since month since month since you accepted the position pledging to reinvigorate the organization to specifically focus on dialogue and reviving trust. I wonder if the practical reality of the past six months has perhaps dampened. I think. Assumed this office i knew very valuable. Expecting me. One of my previous jobs i was the Space Program for percent if we see today you in here you know for five years i chaired the Permanent Council in two thousand and fourteen. I chaired it then we started to crisis in and around your crane so im very familiar of it this institution im familiar with its processes youre familiar with the challenges. Facing your fan talk about the restoration of trust as the key to the effectiveness but what makes you believe that the organizations they call theirs have reached a point when they value that trust over their immediate policy objectives. Look i think one of if not the key challenge in your plan to get your Asian Security these days is this historic deficit of trust between stakeholders and basically be neat. For inclusive style. The need to place very can gradually rebuild trust among the Key Stakeholders and i think this takes in of a bach to your actions off to see you see the need was. Create to manage these very difficult east asked relations during the cold war now those are difficult relations deteriorated even further in ukraine and i know that you made your crane the first country that you visited in your official capacity this is also was the place where the trust or whatever had been left of it. Broke down completely i think over the efforts to either preserve or change ukraines geo political standing do you think at this point of time four years into that conflict the sides have calmed to. Their readiness just sort of harmonize their stances of the political ambitions not yet i mean if you look at total impasse in implementing them in scream and. Im not seeing the political commitment. To get out of this current stalemate. I mean on the Positive Side what we have managed successfully and here. I think very. Significantly to prevent or for address collation of the conflict but of course the would want to resolve this conflict and and for this i think we need. The political commitment to him. Both sets of clauses to security relate to probation and political probation after means kookery many but with all due respect i think the whether or not the conflict escalates further depends not so much on the oil even though the mission is highly appreciated but on the actual. Party or the International Backers. I heard you stayed in one of your interviews that you regret the return of zero sum mentality into a European Security and i heard the other experts suggest the conflict is in ukraine is actually unique in being a loose loose situation reach makes the parties compete not over how much they gain but actually how much they make the other side lose and when you look at that from that perspective the potential for hostilities actually hasnt been exhausted it goes far beyond ukraine and this is what i want to ask you about at this point do you think this conflict is contained to ukraine or its. Southern part or do you think it can still go farther than that well i think to come through. Is typical of a situation. To. Stability. Security order in europe that is now more and more put into question. The torch in conflict in two thousand and eight was the first indicator of that and innovative crisis in or around ukraine. Is another symptom of this fundamental problem that we face in European Security well if i may be bring you back to the question that i just posed about whether you think the conflict expand beyond the current war theater i think its clear that. They are sort of two tracks to that conflict one is can i take on the battle for the other one. Is by inflicting economic or diplomatic pressure and im sure you know that the United States is about to introduce in another round of sanctions against russia which ukraine is highly supportive of though formally speaking it has nothing to do with ukraine do you think that kind of economic pressure that kind of remote. Well i wouldnt call it war but still the efforts to apply pressure to each other do you think it could have a direct impact on the battlefield. So. We have on the table are to mean agreements and i think. That the need to implement that very clear there are number of underlying issues. Can only be addressed half implemented. Once we have sorted out the Current Crisis in or around ukraine. I think there is absolutely no way. Around doing doing that you often point out that you believe that there is no way around and agreement and yet im sure you know that many in your crane believe that that deal was reached under duress and therefore should not be implemented i know you met present Pressure Cooker recently i wonder if you have any ideas on how to incentivize him to publicly accept the validity of the minsk ignorance which he cannot afford to do or hasnt done publicly within the ukrainian environment or perhaps to incentivize them to look for other alternative solutions look i think this is a conflict that is extremely expensive. To all sides all sides would profit from implementing. Grievance and i think the trick is. This is a complex set of security and politically related prohibitions and we need to. Agree on a road map on how to proceed in implementing them. I think once of course the more progress we make in stop issuing a sustainable cease fire. Its easier it is obviously for president bush and co to settle also with the political provisions im fully aware that this is not obvious now i know that you personally. Valda negotiating this for the oil special Monitoring Mission which as it has been suggested may need to be complemented by an arms u. N. Mission and it seems that the disagreements over the scope of the u. N. Mission have been narrowed down over the past month at least russia says that it no longer objects to the u. N. Monitors having access to the entire worth theater but provided that if the breakaway republics agreed to that in direct talks how big of a hurdle you think requirement would be do you think he could bring itself to engage directly with the breakaway republics on that specific point of the u. N. Mission i think there is indeed a potential to come out of this impasse of implementing. It by. The u. N. Operation. As you have alluded to there are still there is still quite a gap between the concepts. I think of that in the context because what i see is russia actually changing its position on the scope of the use your mission and he is still sticking to its original points in moscow suspect that this is a way actually off not implementing in the other pretext for not implementing the minsk agreement because if youre interested in peace why is it such a problem to sit down with the breakaway regions again they did that format so why not do it again. See. Camping on initial position. But i do see a potential of marrying pick up. And i do hope. Eventually manage to. Show it. Will be very keen to be. Associate to do any planning of such an operation from the very outset after all the been of working in the area for three years. Also i think in a position to come to if you would all disobedient assets to such an operation in German Foreign minister. Just earlier this month that germany together with france would promote this idea of the u. N. Security council of which ukraine is not a member and i want to ask you as a former perhaps the current diplomat as well where do you think that deal on the u. N. Mission should and would be hammered out is it among the ukrainian parties or principally among the International Backers you know i think to basically