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Campaign trail. What the numbers are telling us about voters less than seven weeks out. Plus, the republican nominee for governor in North Carolina vows to continue his campaign after new bombshell reporting. Georges top Election Official is calling out the State Election Board over changes that could cause chaos as the 11th Hour gets underway on this Thursday Night. Good evening. Once again, i am Stephanie Ruhle live from Los Angeles and we are now 47 days away from election day. This evening, we are going to talk about polls, so lets remember, polls are not predictive and they are also not perfect. They are far from perfect but they are a snapshot of where things stand in the current moment and they can show us where the trends are moving. Today, we got a wave of new polls both nationally and in the key Battleground States for the whole thing is decided and they showed that while Vice President harris and democrats are in the strongest position they have been in all year, this race is still incredibly close. In fact, nearly all the results from these polls are within the margin of error. It does appear that last Weeks Debate help the Vice President but not enough to break away from trump. New polls focus on the crucial state of pennsylvania, where it really matters, so that the race is still extremely close there. Tonight, the Vice President was in detroit, michigan for a live Stream Town Hall event with opera. The event saw the whole lock like an episode of her talkshow. The two talked with voters about the border, Reproductive Rights and Harris Plan for the economy and that is where she snuck in a reference to last Weeks Debate. Part of my plan is to give startups Small Businesses a 50,000 Tax Deduction to start up the Small Business. Right now, it is 5000. Nobody can start a Small Business with 5000. Thats a teeny tiny business. The concept of a business, right . A concept of a business. Meanwhile trump was in Washington Tonight speaking at a Fighting Antisemitism Event at a summit of the Israeli American counsel. In both Events Trump said if he loses in november, jewish voters will have a lot to do with it and in an absolutely shocking story tonight, i got off the plane and my phone blow up with this one and i still cant believe it, about a man Donald Trump once called better than Martin Luther King. Cnn is reporting that current North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark robinson who is now running to be governor in that state once referred to himself as a black Nazi And Export support for bringing back slavery. Do you know where he made these statements . On a Pornography Website about 10 years ago. Robinson denies the report and has found to stay in the race. Reporter tonight, republican candidate Mark Robinson vowing to stay in the race for governor in North Carolina, vehemently denying an explosive new report showing dozens of his disturbing comments online. They want to focus on salacious tabloid lies. We are not going to let them do that. We are staying in this race. Reporter the current Lieutenant Governor facing a swirl of speculation about the fate of his campaign after Cnn Today published what it called a series of inflammatory comments on a Pornography Websites Message Board more than a decade ago before robinson began his political career. Nbc news has not verified the authenticity of the post. Cnn says they include robinson referring to himself as a black nazi and expressing support for reinstating slavery, Writing Slavery is not bad. Some people need to be slaves. I wish they would bring it back. I would certainly buy a few. Cnn also reporting robinson, who publicly supports a six Week Ban on abortion with exceptions wrote , he did not care if a celebrity got abortion. Writing quote, i dont care. I just want to see the sex tape. Tonight robinson blasting this is tabloid trash. Let me reassure you the things you will see in that story, those are not the words of Mark Robinson. You know my words. You know my character and you know that i have been completely transparent in this race and before. Reporter Note Stranger to polarizing comments, robinson has come under scrutiny in the past for calling the holocaust hogwash, which he later said was a poorly worded remark that was not antisemitic. I plan on being the first black governor of North Carolina. Reporter is a social conservative who has been endorsed by former president trump. This is Martin Luther King on steroids. Reporter North Carolina, a Battleground State of the president ial race, but a tough one for democrats who have not won it since 2008. The deadline for robinson to drop out of the race is midnight tonight. Im going to just take a guess. Hes going to stay. Now lets bring in our leadoff panel. Larry is here because we are talking polling. Director at the center for politics, Uva Professor and president ial historian, evan [ inaudible ] joins us in mckay. I think larry is frozen, so were going to wait a second. Evan, what was your take here . I dont want to step in for larry when it comes to polls. When hes in frozen is going to be amazing. I will say this. You mentioned at the top of the show that polls are snapshot, we should not take a prediction from them but you know, from my perspective like a narrative perspective, all these polls that are coming out, you would rather be harassed than trump, looking at these polls, and that is good for her, obviously. We dont know what it means in the long Run But Talk is of this debate being a huge Game Changer for the election boosting Harris Momentum even further and pushed her away from trump a little bit. It just speaks to all the good news she has had since she found herself with this nomination after president biden dropped out. It has really been a success for her in these polls help to solidify the fact that she is doing so well in this weird environment that she has found herself in. Okay, but then here is what stuck out to me, mckay. One poll found that voters do think harris performed better in the debate but in the postdebate polling, it has not really moved the needle, so what does that say about voters right now . How lockedin are they . Could there really be a lot of undecided voters left if the whole Bunch Watch that debate and still it didnt really move . There was a clear, decisive winner. Right. I think there is a difference for a lot of voters between acknowledging that one candidate performed better than another and thinking that they would rather that person be president. I do think, though, that to evans point, when you look at these polls, you have to look at where theyre going directionally, and directionally speaking, harris is creeping up. She is not creeping up in the polls far enough that shes getting outside the margin of error. She is not running away with it. I think we might be past the era of president ial politics for either candidate can never have a 60 landslide or win 48 states. I think we are an incredibly polarized country. No candidate is ever going to win by more than a few points. I will so, what i found most interesting is not only the polls that are showing her creeping up in these various states but actually polls that ask voters who they think will win. Washington post had a good piece about this kind of breaking down this question of which candidate do you think is going to win, and harris and also in almost every poll wins thereby a much larger margin, 10, 11, 12 points. Most people seem to think harris is going to win and if you look back at elections over the past 60 years, that is actually more predictive question than asking people who they want to win, who they want to vote for. The reason being there are a bunch of theories about this, but one of the theories is that basically when voters are answering that question theyre not just taking into account their own preferences. Theyre taking into account the people they know in their circles, their neighbors, their families. They become kind of many anthropologists and that has proven to be fairly predictive, so if you want to look for good news for harris, the fact that significant majorities outside of the margin of error think that shes going to win, that does bode well for her campaign. That is interesting. Larry, unfortunately for you, you were frozen. You are our Polling Expert but i had to ask these two guys and they really gave great responses so the bar just got a whole lot higher. What were your big takeaways . Well, i could not hear what they said for the most part. Sorry i was frozen, but i was so shocked by the report you gave about Mark Robinson i just couldnt move, and i hope thats okay. As far as polling is concerned, i think people need to remember at all times that all Polling Today can do with all of its flaws and inaccuracies is to tell you that Candidate A is well ahead or that Candidate B is well ahead or that it is so close you really cant tell which candidate is ahead, or the polls are not predictive. I go with the third option certainly in this case. Having said that, which candidate has moved up and which candidate has moved down . Obviously, harris has moved up in Donald Trump has moved down. The problem is, the national vote does not matter at all and we have 43 states sitting there watching the seven states that will impose a new president on the rest of us for the next four years in those states happened to be with only a couple of exceptions, so close that they are literally tied, or certainly within the margin of error and by the way, good research suggests that the margin of error is actually about double what the pollsters actually list because there are so many sources of error that cannot be quantified, so we will be much better off if we all realize that polls are not votes and that we really should not pay that much attention to them and that those who are in politics who care about the results should just be working and volunteering and giving money. How about that. Ill take that. Thats a good education for all of us out there. Evan, democrats are in the best but theyve been in all year and at the same time, this thing is razor thin. Which of those points matters more . That is the 64,000, 64 Million however big of a donation you want to make, question of this election. This all comes down to what is going to happen at The End of this race because we have a candidate in Donald Trump who we have seen unite the republican party in a way that he had not done before. A lot of excitement for him when you go out and see people who really like him a lot then you see this idea of harris who comes in late in the game but just pumps all this enthusiasm into the democratic side and those two things are what are competing together right now and it may come down to the really nittygritty stuff like Ground Game operations. We did some stories about that just the other day, talking about Ground Game operations. This is a got out fight to The End and whoever has the most best stuff i guess, that is how its going to work out, i think. The most best stuff. Thats good writing right there. Larry, a political columnist writes that there are three states of matter, just three states. Georgia, North Carolina, and pennsylvania. Do you agree, and do you think this race can be won without pennsylvania . Number one, i do not agree in number two, i believe that it can be won under certain circumstances, without pennsylvania. We just said 43 states are in this thing. There are only seven and i respect jonathan martin. He is an old friend, its great what he wrote and i see his point but dont you think it would make more sense if we did not narrow down the mere seven states that we have that are truly competitive to three . Because i can see other pathways really for either candidate to win 270 electoral votes. I think the candidates can see that, too other strategists can see that so pennsylvania is important in North Carolina is important in georgia is important, but so are wisconsin and michigan in nevada and arizona, and so we look at different combinations of these states and lets keep doing that. Lets keep the door open to new events and new calculations. All right. At the risk of larry going frozen again, lets talk about Mark Robinson. North Carolina Lieutenant governor in this new cnn report. He is denying that he called Himself A Black Nazi on a Pornography Website and is vowing to stay in this race. Here is my question. There is all this pressure. Should he step down, should he step aside . Lets get real. With Donald Trump as the leader of the republican party, the person who sets the bar, do you see any scenario where a republican will step down for any reason . I mean, this is a key point. When you have the leader of your party who has said outrageous, offensive, racist, xenophobic, antisemitic things, who lies constantly, who has been caught in affairs, and all kind of unseemly, unsavory personal behavior, and who has basically weathered it at least in terms of his standing in the republican party , you dont set any kind of Incentive Structure that would cause somebody like Mark Robinson to say well, i dont think i can survive this. Im going to drop out. It is possible that the party in the state could do what the democratic party essentially did to Joe Biden, which is, you know, pressure mounts, donors pull out. The problem is the deadline is so soon, like you noted, that it is probably theres probably not enough time. Come on, who are the republicans in the party that are going to put the pressure on . Marjorie Taylor Greene . No, this is the interesting thing. The interesting thing is that in the North Carolina state republican party, the establishment hates the sky, like republican operatives are constantly leaking against him. The rest of the elected republicans in the state dont like him. The problem is that he is not beholden to them at all. He is following the Trump Path where he does not need the republican establishment in North Carolina to continue to run his campaign. He fancies himself as anti establishment outside a populist. That is how he has positioned himself. There is not a lot of leverage the State Party has to get him off the ticket but to your point, they also probably will not even try very hard because you know, you have the Donald Trump precedent right there. I will say though, im not really sure that Mark Robinson should bank on being able to do the Teflon Don the thing that trump has pulled off because weve seen this over and over again. A lot of republican politicians seem to think that they can do what trump has done, that they can weather the storms and stick around, that the laws of political gravity dont apply to them and then they find out that they still do so im not sure he should be making that calculation himself. Yeah, ron desantis, you know what he learned . Only trump can trump. Before we go, if robinson does stay on the ballot, how do we see the Governors Race and could it have an impact on the president ial race in North Carolina . Absolutely. I actually just got back from North Carolina midday. The people i talked to yesterday, and that was before this new story broke, were unanimous in saying that robinson was going to lose and most of them said hes going to lose badly. This is before this story. Unless you believe that there is something in that story that makes him more salable, that makes him more attractive as a candidate for governor, i think you can pretty much count on the democratic candidate Josh Stein winning the race. The question is whether he brings down Donald Trump in the state that arguably trump either has to win or nearly has to win in order to get to 270. I think he is going to hurt trump. He is hurting trump because rarely but occasionally, there is something called reverse coattails. It is when a candidate lower down on the ballot and the governor is right below president , become so radioactive that it affects candidates below the radioactive candidate on the ballot but it also affects a Candidate Above. That Candidate Also suffers from Radiation Poisoning to a certain degree. I think we have kind of reached it here, and there are a number of similarities as the others have pointed out, between robinsons problems and trumps problems, so they linked together and could discourage some republican voters from casting a ballot. They just dont want to show up, they dont want to get involved in it. They are turned off by what they have read. At least, the parts they believe, and so the answer is yes, at least in my view. Larry, when youre talking radioactive, i get that it is rare but when you have black nazi pornography all in this one mans story, that could definitely be radioactive. Gentlemen, thank you all for starting us off this evening. When we return, shares of Donald Trumps Media Stock fell to a new low on the same day Donald Trump is finally able to sell. What the former president still stands to make, a lot of money for doing absolutely nothing in a company that also does basically nothing. When we return, some voters still want to know more about Kamala Harris after last Weeks Debate. Were going to talk about these elusive undecided voters, who they are, where they live and what these candidates need to do to win them over. The 11th Hour just getting underway on a hot Thursday Night in l. A. A hot Thursday Night in l. A. Dangerous ladders. Gutter muck. Yuck. No wonder you hate cleaning your gutters. Good thing theres leaffilter. Our patented Filter Technology keeps leaves and debris out of your gutters forever. Guaranteed. Call 833 Leaffilter to get started. And get the permanent Gutter Solution that ends clogs for good. They took the time to answer all of our questions. They really put us at ease. End clogged gutters for good. Call 833. Leaf. Filter, or visit leaffilter. Com today. You know we like to follow her trump Media Stock is doing but today theres even more reason to check in on the Share Price because the lockup preventing early trump media investors, that means Donald Trump himself, from selling their shares, expired at 4 00 p. M. Today. The stock closed under 15 this afternoon. That is an 81 slide from march, when it hit the market at a little over 70 per share. Despite the slide, Donald Trumps stake in the company is still worth 2 Billion and keep in mind, the markets were hitting new highs today, but certainly not for ddt. Last week, he said he has no plans of cashing out so lets discuss this and more. Brandon, this company virtually does nothing, and even though the stock is down 81 , Donald Trumps stake is still worth 2 Billion. Even if it goes lower than this, he stands to make hundreds of millions. He is claiming he is not going to sell. Do you buy it . I dont buy it at all but heres what is so crazy about this company. It is a publiclylisted company which means they have to produce documents for the s. E. C. And they Cant Lie in those documents. You have a way to see what is going on in Donald Trumps company. Im looking right now at the quarterly filing. They had 836,000 in revenue. Those are dry cleaner numbers. This is not a real company. They dont do anything. That gets me to my next question. They dont do anything, so i want to talk for a moment about the kind of people who buy Donald Trumps stock in the parallel with his new business venture, which is a Cryptocurrency Exchange and here is where i see it. Whether it is Crypto Or Dj t, one group are his hardcore trump fans, his base, the angered voters who have connected with him from the beginning and these are the people who have spent their disposable income buying a piece of Donald Trump, the guys who but Day One, 1000 worth of stuff that is now worth 200 bucks. They are losing their shirt supporting this guy in the same kind of rows are going to buy into this exchange, get involved in this Crypto Business and they are going to lose again but the group that is more concerning other professional investors. There are bigmoney investors who have bought his stock because they want to curry favors with him and on the crypto side, you have some of the most sophisticated people in crypto donating huge money to his campaign because they want to have control over who the new s. E. C. Chair is and they want to make sure regulations are in their favor, so can we look at these two Business Ventures and of you that is a snapshot into Donald Trumps campaign . He has a hardcore, angry, disaffected base that he fires up who lose all their money in his name and then rich people who buy in so they can get money back. As it true you just brought me in tonight to defend capitalism because [ inaudible ] something i think is really interesting here is that we know what a political campaign looks like. There are young people, very excited, with any campaign who will work until 3 00 a. M. Because they really want to get a candidate elected in this bloke is out there playing golf while launching a new company for his 18yearold son, baron trump, is the director of decentralized financial innovation and somewhere and somewhere is valuing this at hundreds of millions or perhaps billions of dollars. This is someone who is selling his name. Thats all right. He used to sell his name before he was president but really now he is selling the name president trump. This is crony capitalism. He has been unashamed about it since Day One on the american people stood by and watched. But where it is so dangerous that he is selling trump vodka. That is a silly business and the people who buy it, they lose but when he gets involved in something like cryptocurrency in a significant way and he is going to choose who the new s. E. C. Chair is, that is going to have a massive, dangerous impact on as long as were talking about capitalism, i want to share something the former president said just last night. We are going to put a temporary cap on Credit Card Interest rates. We are going to cap it at around 10 . We cant let them make 25 or 30 . I dont know if i heard that right. Price caps, putting Price Caps on companies . Last i checked, that is not how a freemarket enthusiast or any republican ever looked at capitalism. Brandon . Also, this is such a random promise thrown out there at the last minute. This is like if you get broken up with, that is when you start making up new things though, i could cook dinner more often. This is just something he made up off the top of his head. There is a problem with Credit Card rates. They dont follow the fed up and down anymore like they used to, so there is a challenge to figuring out how to get these rates down. There at 21 right now but the challenge there is there have been bills that have been floated in congress that dont go anywhere, trying to cap it at 12 , 15 . There is absolutely no appetite for this bill whatsoever so for him to say that it is a profoundly empty promise, emptier than normal for him. It is beyond disingenuous. There is not a single republican who would vote for any of that. Justin, what is your take when you hear things like that . You are in michigan, a state that has a ton of people who support Donald Trump. When he is making offers like this, are they saying yes, i hear him, he speaks to me, hes going to deliver for me in the same way that he said two days ago, im going to cut Car Insurance prices 50 . There is something there hearing that they like its probably incidental talkington is like brandon and i. They want the candidate who is not doing that. He is not following normal processes and maybe that is half the point. The latest one was no taxable time, another one that he is come up with on the fly probably cost about 2 trillion. The day that they implement that im going to go to my boss and take every second week off but ill work 80 hours every other week. Then only half my salary will be over time. Half my salary is taxfree. I love this. Im just glad and not the federal treasury who has to keep collecting money. The first thing you learn when you learn about tax policies, we cannot tie Tax Policy to ours because ours are the easiest thing to lie about. This is something any policy [ inaudible ] would laugh you out of the room on Day One. It is not how people here in michigan are thinking about the stuff. It is folks in the media. When something is so disingenuous, so insincere, so moronic, do you report on it seriously and you are and i bless you for that, stephanie, or do you ignore nonsense because it is nonsense and that is a choice others are making instead. I dont know how you solve that. No, you seriously call it out because at The End of the day, the Person Running for office might exaggerate, might glorify something to make themselves look better. We get that. That is how politicians will but what Donald Trump is doing especially in the last two weeks is throwing out Policy Idea after Policy Idea that is a Flat Out lie, that does not align with republican principles, that there is no way it will ever get past and so it is ridiculous to stand in front of Otis And Sam going to do this for you when not only does he not intend to do it, technically and half of these things he does not even have the power to and it is our job not to criticize him, but to call it out because we are not here to satisfy him. We are here to help viewers try to get better and smarter as there getting ready for the election and luckily, boys, you helped us do that tonight. Thank you for being here. When we return, with the race for the White House closer than ever, the election may come down to voters who are still on the fence. I need to understand who they are. Where is this fence . We dont know enough at this point. We are going to begin when the 11th Hour continues. N when the 11th Hour continues. Last Weeks Debate was another chance for Kamala Harris to introduce herself to voters but afterward a new poll showed that 25 said they still need to learn more about her. Joining me now to discuss, a veteran of the Mitt Romney and george w. Bush president ial campaigns. This whole i need to know more about her, Kamala Harris is not running for perfect. Shes running against Donald Trump so what is it that people dont know about her when they know every possible thing there is to know about Donald Trump and still are not sure . Its the right question but at this point i think people just want to make sure to answer whatever questions they might have about her but at this point i think it is incumbent upon her to keep doing these interviews because we know interviews, town halls, rallies, because we know the more people learn about her, the more they like her. The more they hear from Donald Trump, the less they like him, which i think is perfect because whenever Donald Trump feels backed into a corner the immediate strategy he reverts to his get me in front of as many people as humanly possible and when he does that he says stuff like you said at the National Association Of Black Journalists like what he said at the Maralago Press conferences which is my Press Crowd sizes are bigger than Martin Luther King jr. s. When he was talking about how much she loved him with a duvet, there was no audience. Can we talk about undecided voters . In my mind when i close my eyes, i cannot picture who this person is who is an engaged voter who has a notebook in the house like prompted this, she did that. Come to this, kamala did that. Who are these undecided voters . I think they fall into two categories, people who dont intend to vote and people who dont tell pollsters they dont intend to vote. Or, theyre going to be harassed voters, because trump has his vote. They know that. There is nobody here who was thinking well, am i going to vote for Donald Trump . The question is, hes not in the persuasion business. Hes in the Turnout Business and this is why i think its going to be delivered by favorable, unfavorable. If you look at undecided voters they usually break for unfavorable. He would just stay at Home Or Vote for somebody else on the ballot or leave it blank so i think these polls are misleadingly neutral to negative for harris when in fact, the structure of the polls are actually much better. What she is getting with africanamerican voters, theyre showing her 78 or so in the times poll. Thats not can happen. Shes can get 91 of the black vote. And 64, trump got 8 . Thats one point every 56 years. Its not going to change this year, so i think that is 11 of the polls, so i think the polls are actually better news for harris than for trump and i think the Trump Campaign understands this, which is why they are sort of flailing around in panic. Are Swing Voters more significant in this election . You have all those nikki Haley Voters. She has endorsed Donald Trump as she is not out there campaigning with him. Laura loomer is. Do you know who Laura Loomer is not going to help trying to get . Swing voters. I think most of the Haley Vote was a nontrump vote and i think that vote is very much up for grabs now. They are either not going to vote or they are going to vote for harris, so i think this whole question of if you would like to know more about somebody, if you got to ask that question, its a very odd question. Of course you said like to know more. If it was a british Baking Showing you say would you like to know more about the recipe you go yeah, id like to know more. Is going to say no . I think its actually surprising that number is high. That is very interesting. When you look at the people Donald Trump is surrounding himself with right now, the things he is saying whether it is eating the dogs and cats, whether it is sarah huckabee Sanders Doggie not being a stepparent, they already have their base is fired up as its going to get. So does Kamala Harris. If the answer is you need to win undecided voters, how is the current republican strategy doing any of that . It is not. The fact is that everything Donald Trump says, all of the people he surrounds himself with her doubling, tripling, Quadrupling Down On people who are already trump fans but in his mind he is so focused on the instant gratification of getting adulation from his fans, from his audience, the low hanging fruit, throwing Red Meat out to his base because he knows hes going to get the affection from them, the applause from them immediately. That is too much of a draw for him to reject in service of reaching out to those nikki Haley Voters, the people who he actually needs to be reaching out to if you want any help of actually winning this election. You just alluded to the fact that the only way forward for him is actually going to be expanding his coalition by surrounding himself with the Laura Loomers of the world and making Marjorie Taylor Greene the face of the republican party in Jd Vance, which was a pick that was basically just a clone of Donald Trump himself. There was no reaching out to independents. There was no reaching out to people of a different nationality or religion, even getting somebody from a Battleground State. All of these traces are picked for Donald Trump just to basically double down because he only knows how to reach out to the exact people who already support him. Isnt that colossally stupid . Okay, it has been reported i love just even thinking about this, that Pete Buttigieg is performing the role of Jd Vance in the Debate Prep for tim walz. What do you think of that and how important is this debate . I think the debate is fairly important and hes a great choice for that. I am a believer in mock debates. I think you are always better if you had someone who took playing that person seriously and buttigieg is unbelievably smart and facile and he will be a better Jd Vance than Jd Vance which is what you want to have. You want to walk out and say have practiced against guys that are better than the team im playing now. I think the debate is going to really count because its going to be one of the last times to reset what is happening inside the Trump Campaign. The Trump Campaign does not know how to reach out and trump really does not want to reach out because trump believes if youre not for him, youre a bad person. Theres something wrong with you, not that there is something wrong with my candidacy or me. When you look at the world that way, it becomes very narrow and he has never been able to get over 47 . I think you have half the country is 53 nontran10, maybe 47 maga and that is why at The End of the day, relatively thinking, i dont think this race is going to be as close. Haley duvall set it last night. It is not republicans. It is maga. We are going to leave it there. When we return, georgias top Election Official, this is worrisome, slamming the State Election Board over changes he says are probably illegal. You need to watch this next segment. We will be right back. Segment. 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The states Election Board which now has a conservative majority is set to vote tomorrow on more than a dozen new rules that many democrats believe could very well work in Donald Trumps favor this november. One of those proposed Rules Calls for Hand Counting ballots and lets remember, georgia is less than one month from early voting. It is also a Battleground State and in 2020, Joe Biden won there by less than 12,000 votes. For more, i want to bring in the cofounder of the black voters matter fund. This is important. The sport already passed multiple rules in august that could impact certification of election results. Even the republican secretary of state roethlisberger, in that state, he is against this. How did we get to this point . It is absolutely ridiculous. When you look at the makeup of the board though, the makeup of the board is that there is a fivemember board. Three members of the board were protrumpers, so trump is essentially taken over the Election Board in the same state that he wanted to find 11,000 votes he has essentially taken over the Election Board with three people on the board quite frankly i think to sabotage the election. Not only are those two rules around certification, ultimately you can have a local Election Official to say that they are not really satisfied with the election, and therefore, they are going to delay the process of certification. We have seen it both on the republican side on the democrat side, those Election Officials that run elections and have the experience of doing that say no not to do that. Then you look at if these rules pass tomorrow, as this Election Board is slating them to do, they dont come into effect until the day after early voting starts in georgia in 22 days before november 5th, so clearly, there is something that is awry here. Slow this down for me. Essentially, that Phone Call Donald Trump made to find 11,000 votes in roethlisberger and others told him to pound salt, this time around, the people that he would be calling, the people he would be relying on to find those fictional 11,000 votes would potentially be willing to comply . It gets worse than that, that what we may look at is not even certifying the votes that are cast, that there are already rules in place in the State Of Georgia to protect the integrity of the election. I think there are number of things he is seeking to do. I think there is an effort to thwart the results of the election, to delay the Certification Process but also to actually make sure that the public does not trust election results. So, lets say that Vice President , harris wins the State Of Georgia. Now, you are bringing in this air of suspicion to actually do exactly what trump wanted to happen last time, that literally those results are considered illegitimate so that is the core problem. Vp Harrises Headed To Georgia tomorrow to speak about abortion rights, and we have spent a lot of time over the last week talking about the stories about the two women who died after being denied reproductive care. How much is this issue going to motivate voters in georgia . I think women in particular, Young Women, all of the women i have been talking to really feel very deeply about this particular issue. When you see two women, what is really interesting about this Report Propublica put out is that ultimately both of these liens were lives were preventable. What we saw is that even today there was a call that was put on with over 300 Young Women joining a call to say they are very frustrated and angry and planning actions in the state to address this. This is something we are saying georgia is ground zero. The irony around it is georgia is one of those states with the highest maternal mortality rates in the country so here you have a state with no good Healthcare Options for women having children, this is a state that has literally taken away the Reproductive Rights, but this is also a state that has places where there is not an Ob Gyn for almost 100 miles in places so this is a problem in the state. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you for educating us. Really important stuff. We will be right back. We will be right back. Clogged gutters can cause big problems fast. Until now. Call 833leaffilter Today for your free gutter inspection. Ive had terrible Flooding Problems on my porch. Now i understand why. Right now leaffilter is offering a free inspection, on your schedule. Leaffilter is a permanent Gutter Solution, so you never have to worry about costly damage from clogged gutters again. Call us today and schedule your free inspection. To schedule your free inspection, call 833. 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