Cheers, michael. Welcome back to the weekend, everyone. Election day is 66 weeks i gave early voting kicks off in pennsylvania in just 16 days. To win, vice president kamala harris knows democrats need to grow their coalition and part of that means reaching out to conservative leaning voters. In her first major interview as a democratic nominee, she promised to welcome republican voices to her administration if she wins in november. I have spent my career inviting diversity of opinion. I think it is important to have people at the table when some of the most important decisions are being made that have different views, different experiences. I think it would be to the benefit of the american public to have a member of my cabinet who was a republican. Joining us now is olivia troye, former homeland security and terrorism adviser to mike pence. When i heard that i was like, that michael steele for commerce secretary. I could put on a tie. I would be happy to do that. It would be an honor. So, to you have a job. I do. Okay. Here we are. Olivia, i thought this was to look, let's back it up a little bit. We have seen this in other administrations where you will have a democrat reach out and bring a republican in or a republican will reach up and bring a democrat in. People come in and move on to some extent. I think this was a little bit differently giving the environment we are in i'm curious of your take on the vice president putting this out right now in context of everything else that had been shaping up in this campaign. As part of that arc of two things, one, creating that permission structure for republicans to look seriously at her campaign and, two, to give us a sense of how she recognizes she will need to govern as president. You have someone in the room, as she would often put it, who can share the insights on the republican view on some of these policies. And help her craft and move forward in her administration. How do you read this invitation by the vice president? i thought it was important when she said that and the first thought i have is, thank you. Thank you for welcoming us to the table. And the moderate republican voices to the table. I would say, the traditional republicans. That is what i would like to see because there is no room at the table and ate donald trump presidency. There is a stark contrast and it is critically important and like you said, that permission structure, i think this is part of what is happening here. Republicans for harris and what she is doing on the campaign trail we saw happen at the democratic national convention when you had republicans like myself and adam kinzinger and others speak during the dnc convention, it was my first time at a dnc ever and it was a moment that i think we will get through this divisive situation in our country together. I will welcome your viewpoints so you feel like you are part of this permission structure in this country and we can create policy and get back to bipartisanship which i think is really needed in order to do things for our country. Olivia, i think you are absolutely right and spot on there. As a chairman said, literally, every modern administration with the exception of the trump administration and biden and administration included a republican in the cabinet and it seems what you are talking about speaks to what the vice president said to dana bash about turning the page, if you will and we want to play that for you. About turning the page in this era, as she calls it. I think, sadly, in the last decade, we have had in the former president someone who is really been pushing an agenda and an environment that is about diminishing the character and strength of who we are as americans. Really dividing our nation and i think people are ready to turn the page on that. Also ready to turn the page on donald trump. Again, understanding that i don't think trumpism is going away but turning the page on him specifically. That is how i read it. I think you are absolutely right. Trump and trumpism is not going away anytime soon but we can start by defeating the and the republican party are getting rid of the figurehead and that is donald trump and returning the republican party to a level of normalcy that i think many republicans like myself want to say and i think what you are seeing here is, we are exhausted from what is happened in the past 10 years. We want to actually see true leadership and we want to get past sort of the situation we are think domestically. You know who also wants to see death passes? our ally for our international partners in the world who are watching this thing, what is going on with what used to be the beacon of democracy? what is happening in america? let's find responsible leaders and let's have them lead us into a better direction and also let's find responsible republicans who are not going to align themselves with someone who is posing up to dictators and continues to diminish our value big on top in front of the world. I think she is saying, it is time to get past this moment so that we can actually get back to legislating. I was thinking about this when i was reading an article and adding a republican member to our cabinet and i ran into pete buttigieg and he looked at me and he said, someday hope to get back to arguing with you about taxes or whatever it is that republicans and democrats like to argue about, but today it's about getting to a better place for our country and protecting our democracy. You know, i enjoyed the conversation. It made me chuckle a little bit and i said, yeah, i long for that day as well. The interesting part of all of this is something you put your finger on. That is responsible leadership. What responsible leadership looks like and why it is so important to this american idea and how we govern ourselves as a country around this idea that our leaders take responsibly the power that is given to them. I want to play for you and get your thoughts on something that trump said. To give you a context you understand the two that are occurring. This information and a play for power. He was in a discussion with mom for liberty and he was responding to a question about using presidential power to limit the care for trans kids. And trump answered by pivoting, if you will, to the border and declaring, you don't need a bill, but this is the essentially the part i want to play for you in response to what a president can or cannot do for trans kids. We were being taught that they were born in the wrong body and it is an incredibly abusive message. Horrible. He met let's talk about some of the things you may be able to do as president. You can do everything. The president has such power, it does. It has such power. For instance, you can close the border, you don't need a bill. So, the disinformation. The disinformation is beyond the pale. And a president has so much power and you can do whatever you want. That attitude and that fuels the disinformation but i think americans need to understand the underlying core of the man when it comes to responsible leadership. What say you? you know, i watch that and it gave me some ptsd remembering what it was like to sit in the white house situation room and watch them have that demeanor and behave in a way that it didn't matter what the people around the table were going to say in terms of, no, that's illegal or, no, we shouldn't do that. And it didn't matter because to him, he was above the law. Everything is about him and everything is an opportunity for him whether it is financial or whether it is a voter op. We sought plant again this past week at arlington cemetery when he completely disregarded the rules and regulations put in place and i am personally they were told in advance what the rules were and he knows but it doesn't matter. Nothing is sacred to donald trump. This is who he is. In that clip, i'm thinking, translation what he means is, i can do whatever i want as president and no one can stop me. That gets back to the presidential immunity case, too. It's all wrapped up into one why all of this matters so much. The disinformation, that's critical because he uses that to undermine everything and spin things. Whether it's being the military, any topic, that he talks about. He uses this spin and he sort of lays the groundwork to kind of push his agenda and he does it to his followers. Right? this is what he does. He gets them to believe this and you have a lot of people walking around parroting what he is saying. There it is. Parroting. Olivia troye, thank you so much for being with us as mourning period coming up next, how fired up are young voters for the harris/walz ticket? we will as the young islamic on capitol hill, congressman maxwell frost of florida. He will be with us when we come back. This is the weekend. Still is. With bugs, the struggleisreal. That's why you need zevo traps. Zevo works 24/7 to attract and trap flying insects. For effortless protection. Zevo. Peoplefriendly. Bugdeadly. It's time to feed the dogs real food in the right amount. A healthy weight can help dogs live a longer and happier life. The farmer's dog makes weight management easy with fresh food preportioned for your dog's needs. It's an idea whose time has come. The harris/walz campaign and only gen z member of congress democrat maxwell frost are joining forces to mobilize young voters across 150 college campuses in battleground states. Here's congressman's boss this week at a backtoschool event on the arizona state university campus. I got involved in politics when i was 15 years old because i did not want to get shot. We are in a moment i believe as organizers requires us to organize with love and grace. We have to do is show people and tell people our truth. Whatever space you are in, you said to organize. Bringing the loving grace to the table this morning is congressman maxwell frost of florida. Welcome. Good to see you. Congressman, you are the first gen z member of congress and i find that meeting the voters where they are is so critically important. What are you hearing from the students, i know school is just getting back in the swing of things, but what have you heard on this tour and do you think the message from the harris campaign is resonating with young voters? of course. I appreciate you having me on. People are fired up all across the country. Arizona, and ending today, in pennsylvania. The rooms are packed and students are excited to go organize. The other thing is there are a lot of people who come to these events that are not to put typically politically active students which gives me a lot of hope. We are allowed and organizers there but after the event when i am taking photos with both and they are telling me this is the first political event i've been to. I didn't do anything with politics before this but i feel inspired by this campaign and by kamala harris and tim walz. Now i want to get involved. That is when you have real cultural power. That is a difference between politicians who use culture further campaign and those who want to be part of it. It's more authentic and organic and we are seeing that across the country right now with young voters. Congressman, you have npr reporting on how much the harris/walz tickets needs gen z voters. The campaign tells npr that it plans to invest in new digital ads on campus and social media, doubling staff around the country and launching a college campus tour in battleground states. That is the infrastructure part of this which is an important aspect as a former chairman i can tell you how important it is to get someone like you, not just elected, but once elected to get your voice out there, which is the next part of this. Where you have kamala harris in a video message to students for the campaign on tuesday saying this to young voters. As you begin the school year, i am calling on you to understand and know the stakes of this election. Not only for our country, but for you. Please, know your power and get out there and vote. It's going to make a difference. So, you see, congressman, the balance that you are making about how the campaign needs to approach this and the infrastructure and putting in place that piece that will mobilize that that messaging and having a face like yours and presents with students to show it's real. What do you think the best strategy and how do you see it playing out in the battleground states? and across the country? yeah, i think it is here's the thing. The strategy that has been used for other constituencies. It just young voters have been so neglected in politics for generations and now we are seeing a candidate run a full campaign for these notes and people are saying, this is out of this world, but she's running what we would do to reach other constituencies and crafting a message that was honed with that in mind and bringing young people into the table. This dispatching case arrogance and the vice president to do a nationwide college tour last year before he was even running for president which shows she really cares about the voices of young people and bring them in. The thing that warmed my heart about that college tour, it wasn't hard giving speeches to everyone, she was doing panel discussions and bringing them in and understanding what they had to say. What the campaign is doing is simple. It is what we see campaigns across the country with other constituencies. But she doesn't care how you and you are or if you're old enough to vote yet, she will hear your voice if she is a young person because she wants to fight the climate crisis, she wants to get the housing crisis under wraps because she understands that one day we went to own a home so we can build wealth, right? and the reason why is because she asked us. I mean, what a novel concept. Why don't we just talk to some young folks. Congressman, i will note, sometimes the season i talk about the chairman over here, but sometimes season people that understand the difference between gen z and millennials. But gen zers or anyone born after 1997. You just barely made the cut. You could have been a millennial if you were a year earlier. I think this juxtaposition of going on college campuses and laser focus on college students, but there's also this push for other young voters who aren't as young as college students, but millennial voters. You talk about housing. I've heard you talk extensively about this. When you think about what people are saying about the economy, like millennial voters, they talk about affordability and they are talking about housing. They want to be able to own a home but it seems unattainable and unaffordable. The policy the vice president put out, i heard a lot of people say, i don't know if this is it. She might want to focus more on the other parts of inflation, and housing is a thing for us young people. It is front and center. 100%. You might remember, through my political campaign, my primary campaign, the joke i told myself this, well, i won't have to deal with the housing problem anymore that i won and as a congressman, i cannot guide to every apartment applied to because my credit was poor. I ran up credit card debt because you don't get paid to be a candidate for congress. This is something happening to get young people across the country. I had one of the first satellite congressional offices on a college campus in my district one of the top three issues young people come to us any help with his housing and rising housing costs. I will be honest. I think both parties could have done a good job the last several decades of providing what a good housing platform can look like, but not anymore. Kamala harris, one of the first thing she put forth with the housing platform to build, number one, 3 million new homes for potential buyers and tenants. But also so that we had the consumer protections, capping rent increases at 5% and indented to get rid of zoning laws so we can build more affordable housing your opportunity where people want to work. This is one of the top issues for young people in this country. Their rent is to rebut them high and one day they want to own. The joke about our parents, they bought a home for two raspberries. This housing problem, it's one of the top things people have been telling me. I feel seen by this campaign because they are talking about rising housing costs and it's not that we can afford this because we have been living beyond our means but we have been denied the means to live her out of these two candidates, she is recognizing that and putting a platform for i know we have to go but i want to put an x commission point on everything you said. By showing what salon has reported with respect to young people being fired up. I just want to show the numbers really quick. It shows that registration is up 175%. Among young black women. 149% among young black latinos and 98% among black women overall. 85% among young black americans generally and 83% among young women as a whole. What you are doing with the campaign and what the campaign is doing is an exclamation point for young voters out there. Keep doing it it's working. And it congressman maxwell plus maxwell frost of florida, thank you for your time. In the fight for democracy in georgia. Democrats are suing state election officials to protect voting rights ahead of november. If you have not heard the story, we will get into it. You are watching the weekend on msnbc. Introducing a revolution in pain relief. Absorbine junior pro, the strongest numbing pain relief available. It's the only solution with two max strength anesthetics for fast penetrating relief absorbine junior pro. Nothing numbs pain more. What the biggest companies deliver is exceptional customer experience. What makes it possible is unmatched connectivity and 5g solutions from tmobile for business. Tmobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees. Powers tractor supply stores nationwide with reliable 5g business internet. And helps red bull revolutionize coverage of live events. This is how business goes further with tmobile for business. Georgia is on everybody's mind. This week, they sued the georgia election board three months before election day. The majority republican board, three of which are election deniers, to be clear. They have been praised by donald trump. Adapting rules that will confuse voters and delay certification of the 2024 election results. Joining us now to break it down is the founder of democracy docket marc elias. Mark. Mark, look, i have been saying and raising a flag on this whole battleground of election deniers in positions of power on election boards and in election operations around the country. Georgia is the ground zero for this. Lay out the case for us that the dnc and these entities have made against the georgia election board right now so that we have an understanding of exactly what is at stake. Folks, this is real. November 6th, you need to understand, it is a play for maga and republicans if trump winds up on the wrong side and their view of the selection. Well, what's happening in georgia is really quite extraordinary. After every election in every state, the results are certified and that process is usually pretty perfunctory and sometimes described as ministerial and other places described as mandatory. But basically what the canvassing boards do is they take the election results from the machine tapes and precincts and they deal with the provisional ballots and other things and then they take the numbers and put it on a document and sign the document that it is certified. What we saw in 2020 was an effort by donald trump to tamper with this process in michigan. Now, as we that failed, but as we head towards 2024, you are seeing renewed efforts to tamper with that process. In georgia, the state that is, you know, on most people's minds right now, that maga dominated election board which passes basically rules, usually a pretty sleepy group of people, but they passed rules that seem to be intending to empower these local canvassing board members to not simply certify elections, but to interpose their own judgment, their own investigation and do other things that could either be to get an accurate numbers being certified or delay certification. This is a quote from the lawsuit. To put it on the screen. The rulemaking date election board has attempted to turn the straightforward and mandatory active certification into a broad license for individual board members to hunt for purported election irregularities of any kind, potentially delaying certification and displacing understanding and court supervised processes for addressing fraud. The georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger prior to this rule coming out basically said that this process undermines her confidence and burden election workers but this was days before the election board past this rule. And so should unelected members of the state election board. What is happening in georgia is not unique. And when i talked to other election experts and whatnot, folks say, every election has been certified. The elections will be fine. It will be okay. It's not going to be okay just because it's going to be okay. People are writing on every front. , you specifically. Because georgia is not an anomaly. They are kicking people off the roads in various places across the country. Look at what happened in pennsylvania where i was recently found that people who should have gotten a result ballots did not get them. Now the court has ordered ordered what? this is concerning to me because i don't know if folks will be okay on november 5th or even after. Yes, so, i think you are exactly right. Michael, you are right. We need to view georgia as an example but only an example of a nationwide effort by republicans to make it harder for voters to vote easier for them and the election deniers to cheat after the election. That is what we are seeing in states. My law firm is involved in more than 50 lawsuits in 20 states. This is a widespread problem. In 2022, we had to sue cochise county, california anna county in pennsylvania for refusing to certify the result of this problem is growing. It is not diminishing and i am glad that the secretary of state in georgia spoke out about this, but if you look at his quote, these are not activists. These are republicans. They are not this is a top down plan from donald trump and the rnc and their allies to cast doubt on the outcome of the election in 2024 so they can engage in the kind of election denial is the we saw after 2020. To the good, kudos to the dnc and lawyers for bringing this lawsuit. Whether it is my firm and my folks are many other lawyers at organizations keyed in on this, we will fight to make sure that voters have the right to vote on the election results are protected. What are we to make of this on again, off again contentious love affair, hate affair between the governor and donald trump. We have governor kemp on fox news on thursday saying this. There was a little distraction obviously on their site when it came to georgia, but to me that is in the past. I have been saying that for over a year now. That i would support our nominee and we had to win georgia. The road to the white house runs through georgia. I still believe that we cannot afford two more years of kamala harris and joe biden. It's not about me. And as former president donald trump says, it's not about him. It's about our country. First off, i will call bs on something is not about him because we know that is a lie. But then you had trump tweeting out to brian kemp, this. Thank you to brian kemp georgia for all your help and support in georgia where a win is so important to the success of our party and, most important, our country. I look forward to working with you, your team, and all of my friends in georgia to make america red again, yada, yada, yada. They are at odds right now and closing camp because of everything you said about the importance of georgia. What is your take on this particular play given the role of the governor potentially in some of this? i think you have to realize that trump is a transitional politician. And, so, the people around trump recognize he is losing to kamala harris and is behind in the polls and most of the key swing states and all of the momentum is with her. And donald trump is flat. They are trying to urge him to make peace with the republican, popular republican governor in georgia, and he's able to do that in one transaction at a time, but as we have seen on so many other issues, this is a effort, the rock will eventually roll down the hill because donald trump at 3:00 a. M. One morning will decide that he read something about the governor of georgia and then he will then bless the governor of georgia. I think we cannot we can never underestimate how bad donald trump will be but we should not overestimate how rational he will be peer because often times there are moments in time. In moments in time. Stick around that we have a few more moments to talk about including what the harris campaign's legal team is doing to stay ahead of trump's ongoing attacks on our democracy. Know this is a the weekend. We'll be right back. You just have to get in the seat of the new john deere gator™ xuv. Learn more at your john deere dealer. Everywhere but the seat. 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Vo: schedule free mobile service now at safelite. Com. Singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ donald trump and his allies are ready to deploy an arsenal of legal tech asked to subvert the 2024 election results if he loses. Pay attention, folks. The harris/walz campaign will not let it get away with it. The new york times reports the campaign is assembled hundreds of lawyers, 10 times more than biden's efforts at this point. To fight trump's election to nihilism in court. Marc elias is back with us and in his personal capacity. And the president and ceo of democracy lower. I want to play this. An 87yearold lydia martinez spoke out after the attorney general of texas, are busy ken paxton, sent officers to raid her home. I feel like they are going to stop a lot of us from doing work and that is what they want. She sent officers questioned her for hours, confiscated her up on a computer and made her wait outside as they searched her home. I said, let me get dressed and they said, no. Go outside. What were you wearing? my nightgown. And i had all these policemen around me. It was embarrassing, humiliating and i was so angry. It was horrible. Sky, this was all because she was registering seniors to vote. In texas anna county where many of the people that live in the county are latino, american or black americans and that is what we are seeing in texas. We are seeing it across the board. This is part of that trump playbook and right out of the maga playbook. The main thing is they want to intimidate people. So that they don't vote or believe they cannot vote. We will not let that happen. Mark, pick up on that aspect of this effort by democrats at this point. To sort of reposition not just the narrative, but the effort to avoid and to deal with more instances like this should they occur. How was that planned out and how is a campaign in your view or how should they account for what we just heard. That level of intimidation? i think i was proud in 2022 represent president biden's campaign. We mine 64, 65 cases and had a big success, but i think what we learned from that is just the ruthlessness and scale and scope of what donald trump and the republicans are willing to do. He was willing to incite an insurrection on january 6th after losing all of those lawsuits. Then we saw the republican party unite behind election to nihilism as an organizing principle and remember, trump file fired the chair of the rnc with the charge of, don't worry about getting out the vote but billed this voter suppression were machine. It's not a surprise we are seeing that voter suppression were machine take route around the country. I have a message to michael whatley and donald trump, he will not get away with it and they keep doing what they are doing, they will keep losing like they did in 2020. To marc point, they are making false claims about these noncitizens voting. Which is, to be clear, illegal if you are not a citizen to vote. They are not just passing out ballots to people who are not citizens, but donald trump and the rnc would have you believe they are. Donald trump called for a government shutdown over this proof of citizenship voting bill. In an interview on thursday, donald trump according to the washington post, called on the republican congress to shut down the government if a spending bill does not include legislation that would include proof of listenership to vote. Citizenship to vote. This is crazy but very intentional. It is very intentional. We saw this before. Marc talked about 2020, but we saw this in 2017 when donald trump is concerned he lost the popular vote and hillary clinton won but he lost it. He did not want americans to believe that so even in the early days of the prior trump administration, he started trying to engage in these tactics to intimidate voters. I think we have seen the american people have overcome that and will continue to overcome that, but it is very intentional and can be harmful to our democracy. I want to go further with you on this particular point, skye. You had trump on mailin voting last night in johnstown, pennsylvania, saying this. The elections are so screwed up. We have to get back in and change it all. We want to go to paper ballots, we want to go to sameday voting, we want to go to citizenship papers. And we want to go to voter i. D. It's very simple. We want to get rid of mailin voting. So, again, we are back in the space where we are talking about getting rid of future voting in this country which is vital to the success of our system because it allows a lot of people who otherwise would not participate to participate. Seniors. You are a large measure and capable of going to voting places. Republicans used to have i don't know. So, if i were running, it wouldn't have donald trump but the reality is these tools and mechanisms are essential elements of a campaign to success. How do you convey to voters this is the still have of value when you have someone in the idiotic or see telling them , you don't want to do that. We are going to rewrite the rules and make it more fair when in fact, there has been no proven fraud, no proven breakdown in our system. I think the american people are seeing that. You see a full review of the project 2025 agenda. There are several motor weaponizing the doj and you see voters are rejecting that and people are rejecting that which is why the maga are doubling down on voter suppression agenda and there have been a lot of good public education efforts and work on the ground across the country to make sure people understand it is vital that they vote and they can vote. Our constitution protects that and state laws protected. And i think that is really what this fight is about right now. Marc elias, thank you and thank you for defending our democracy at every turn. We appreciate her upper there is more ahead on the weekend. A big reminder, a week from today is democracy 2024 in brooklyn. Our first inperson fan event. The short to get your tickets. Scan the qr code on your screen right now. Or you can go to msnbc. Com/democracy 2024. All of your favorite msnbc host will be there including all three of us here on the weekend. We hope to see you there. Help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. So, here's to now. . . Now available: boost max! maya knows how quality care can bring out a smile. But it's been a few dog years since she was able to enjoy a smile of her own. Good thing aspen dental offers affordable, complete care all in one place. And new patients without insurance get $29 exams and xrays. Plus 20% off treatment plans for everyone. 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You know, this effort by texas state leaders to purge roles, raid latino homes and probing better is voter registration organizations. They have been investigating this for two years they claim and this was a local prosecutor referral that went to the attorney general's office where they secured a search warrant to go into these homes. What the people need to understand what she was saying that they are doing this they are attempting to do this through legal means , i. E. , to intimidate these people and using the people. Ken paxton is using his position and local prosecutors to intimidate people who are perjuring people to vote. This was the election integrity unit. This is insane. There is no election integrity. We have so many examples from heritage itself that shows in a 20 year span, 2003 to 2023, there have been 1500 that is the heritage 's during of election fraud. 2003 to 2023, not in 2023 alone. So, all of this election fraud and all of this bs around elections is largely because republicans have given up on making the case to the american people that their policies are what they should support. We have no policies, so we jacked up your 87yearold grandmother and intimidate the hell out of her in her night around to make sure she is an example to the rest of the community. The autoplay in the voting process. The doj should investigate ken paxton and i agree. So where is the department of justice. We got to go. Coming up on velshi, focusing on the plan to amplify violence and disinformation campaigns. Coming up at 10:00 a. M. Eastern on msnbc. F you were cashbacking you could earn on everything with just one card. Chase freedom unlimited. So, if you're off the racking. . . . . . Or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. Cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. Nah, i'm working on my six pack. Switch to a king suite or book a silent retreat. 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