Ari melber starts right now. Nicole, one week down, thousands to go. Eternity to go, we hope. Have a great show. Eternity, we could be so lucky. Have a great weekend, our thanks to Nicolle Wallace first big week back. Welcome to the beat, im ari melber, we have a special show for you tonight. We have a lot to get to. Lets get right into today. Jack smith making a new pitch on behalf of the doj on why donald trump must be put on trial before the election. If that sounds like a familiar issue, jack smith has more than one case against Defendant Trump. So, the defendant was actually down in Federal Court today watching as doj prosecutors argued for a july beginning to a trial in the other jack smith case, earlier in the week discussing the big coup case and the Supreme Court slowing that down. This is the classified documents case, you probably remember both, and they are saying, over at the doj, there is nothing in their rule or precedents which prevents this trial, on the documents, from occurring in weeks, even days before the election. And remember, its donald trump is the defendant whos been delaying both cases. On the flipside, i want to tell you Donald Trumps team are saying, well, they dont like the idea of this trial happening at all but they offered august s. A. T. Possible date. We learned about that new Development Last night, if you havent been watching the beat, because you came through in a filing and that was a change. Now today in court, with donald trump sitting there, we saw all of this play out at the hearing. Heres how the New York Times put it. One possibility, accounting for the switch in the Trump Legal Team strategy is trumps lawyers were, quote, seeking to reduce the chances of there being time for that other jack smith case, the election case, to go to trial before election day in november. So theres a lot of uncertainty here, you have, of course, a range of possible cases, those are the two jack smith federal cases, theres also a possibility of a georgia rico trial, today the judge there heard more arguments about whether or not theres a conflict to remove the d. A. Fani willis from that rico case and then you have trumps legal problems in new york, he goes on trial in the hush money case this month, were in march now, so thats coming up, and in just a few days he has to start paying some of the hundreds of millions of dollars that hes racked up in penalties from the other cases, these four criminal trials are more than any president has ever faced, but the civil cases are having a huge impact on donald trump. Now, i want to walk through some of that with you tonight, and i will tell you straight up some of this news happened over the course of the week. Here we are friday night, its been so busy we havent done a deep dive on this but the clock is ticking because trump is struggling to even come up with part of the cash for what he owes in those fraud cases. He basically revealed this week that he wont or cant pay the half billion dollar judgment in the fraud case in new york. His lawyers put it like this, it would be, quote, impossible to secure and post a complete bond. They say he might have to sell property to pay this penalty. Now, that is them claiming he doesnt have the money. Either theyre telling the truth and he doesnt or theyre trying to deceive a court about his money after a case where he was found liable for fraud, which is deceptions about money. That would be a bad look to say the least. All of this is a blow to someone whos talked a lot about being the king of debt and now cant even post a full bond. Im the king of debt. Im great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me. Theyve made a fortune by using debt. I like debt, for me. Now, he likes debt. And in business there are ways, of course, that sophisticated investors and entrepreneurs can use debt. He stands accused of fraud and other things, the misuse of financial machinations, but other people have done it effectively. Im going to show you something, i want to put the context out here, if a truly multibillionaire person were facing this type of legal problem, say elon musk, they wouldnt be haggling with the courts about a partial bond or delaying putting up the money. And to be clear, and in fairness to donald trump like any other defendant youre allowed to put up a bond and appeal the case and maybe the total amount will be reduced and maybe the whole thing will be reversed. Elon musk wouldnt have a problem of putting up this bond for the purposes of appeal, what were talking about and not only that, but trumps problems this week, where his lawyers are saying, we dont have it, wed have to sell property, we dont have that kind of money lying arpd, that directly contradicts what his lawyers said as recently as last week about trumps supposed net worth. This guys worth a lot of money, billions and billions and billions of dollars. I mean, he of course he has money. You know, hes a billionaire. Unfortunately they picked the wrong guy to pick on, in my opinion. Because hes strong, hes resilient. And he happens to have a lot of cash. He happens to have a lot of cash. Except he doesnt. Again, theres a difference between what they say on fox or in public, and what they have to say in court and even if hes been effective delaying certain things, this is where the rubber meets the road. Look at this statement from trumps lawyers, properties would likely need to be sold to raise the capital. In other words, they dont have it, whatever the other lawyer who you just heard from last week said was not true, according to the lawyers now. And the Attorney General is not going to just let donald trump slow walk all of this, or lie about it in public. Her office has already put his team on notice that trump all but concedes he has insufficient liquid assets to pay, to satisfy the judgment, under new york law that means james can go ahead and seize things, for example, bank accounts, take control of properties, under the law, when you lose this kind of fraud judgment, if you defy it, well, it becomes a matter of what the Attorney General is willing to do, and shes been vocal about her intent. If he does not have funds to pay off the judgment, then we will seek, you know, Judgment Enforcement mechanisms in court. And we will ask the judge to seize his assets. That is a big warning. So on a week where donald trump got some good legal news from the federal side in the Supreme Court, hes now facing a lot of bad news, which affects his business empire, and his money, and we know this also affects, potentially, his campaign, because hes been taking funds, that otherwise would go to Political Activities and campaign activities, and routing them to cover his legal bills. Its all related because of him, not because of the Attorney General, these are his bills to pay. So, in this campaign, at this crucial moment, donald trump has admitted through his lawyers this week that he cant pay up. That he cannot even get the money to pay the full bond, i mentioned elon musk is one comparison, whos had litigation and paid out certain things, and a lot of people have dealt with legal problems, and had to pay for bonds. In fact, its something that people with legal experience talk openly about, take 21 savage who said i washington shades so they cant see, and i pay them lawyers and the bond fees, thousands, im beyond g, they still asking, can you front me . End quote. 21 basically trying to contrast between people who need to be fronted, and people like him, who can afford their bonds, and apparently thats something donald trump cant do. He would have to pay this bond by the way through a premium fee to a company and that can be about 3 of the judgment as the New York Times explained, Companies Offering appeal bonds, though, might be unwilling to take trumps property as collateral if a building already has a mortgage or basically has other creditors already in line ahead of them and trump has not just the fraud fees which as i said can still be litigated. Maybe theyll be lowered but look at that, the 355 million is just the fraud judgment. The bond i referenced is only for that, through the 100 million in fraud interests, plus those lawyer fees, some of whom hes passed on to his donors, plus the 83 million you see up top from that defamation loss. And were tracking that as well. Ms. Carroll who beat him twice in that case says she now has serious concerns about trumps Cash Position and the feasibility of collecting the payment. Weve got someone whos spent decades saying he has all this money, his lawyers saying last week saying he has all this money but recent developments give rise to those concerns as she writes in a filing. Trump tried to barter with the judge on the fraud case, again i mentioned we didnt get into this, all that, in all that much detail this week but at one point earlier this week he said what if, instead of putting up 400 million that i you, i give you a 100 million bond instead of for the full amount. Thats not how things work. Very quickly the judge said, no, you lost, this is not a negotiation. This is not a thrift store. This is not some real estate deal like the ones you were found guilty of some fraud. You owe the bond to cover the entire amount. Now, as we end the week, we were trying to take this all in, and think about these comparisons. Donald trump, cant pay his bond. Donald trump went in court in broad daylight this week and admitted that and said what if i gave you a quarter of the bond . And the judge said no. We are approaching a broke era of a potentially seemingly broke real estate mogul that has more in common with comedy than traditional lawyering. I scanned your food and it comes to a gazillion dollars. Elmo has a t rex and a go fish card. Im a baby and i have no money. You owe us 200. I can pay you in blocks. Youre not a baby, youre a man. Whats this . Bubble money. I do want to make sure you get the invoice. This is a little much for know. Maybe ill just give you a fourth of the invoice. Maybe ill just pay you a quarter of it. Real housewives stiff stuff and it might be funny in other contexts, the judge saw it as no laughing matter, someone who claims to be so rich and is running to be president , just said i dont have it, called i give you a quarter of it . Thats where we are in the new york case, while trump is in court on the federal case, and a lot of other trials may or may not happen this year. So we want to take it all together to active point in the trial schedule, Molly Jong Fast is here to talk about all the cases, hi, molly, well be back together in just 60 seconds. Ng. You have to make it. And if you want a successful business, all it takes is an idea, and now becomes the future. A future where you grew a dream into a reality. Its waiting for you. Mere minutes away. The future is nothing but power and its all yours. The all new godaddy airo. Get your Business Online in minutes with the power of ai. In here, you can expect to find Crystal Clear audio, expansive display space, get your Business Online in minutes endless entertainment, and more comfort for everyone. But even with all that. We still left room for all the unpredictability, spontaneity and unexpected things youll find out here. The new 2024 Grand Cherokee lineup. Jeep. Theres only one. This is unacceptable. 4,000 there, pauly, ill have the other two in a couple days. I thought i made myself clear, im going to give you another couple days, its going to cost you another 2 gs, as a reminder not to it up. When you owe, you owe. We are joined by Molly Jong Fast, welcome, happy friday, how are you . Good, good, good to be here. I mean, what a montage. Happy to join. Can you hear me . Zblo youre in good company between elmo and the sopranos on a friday, its laughable because that part is, ive been clear in our coverage, there are some issues here that are legitimate. For example, the ballot bans are a new and untested way to try to look at these issues. There are some issues that are debatable. The Supreme Court can certainly lawfully take a case, although weve covered how the way they are doing it is quite questionable in slowing down the coup trial. Then theres the fraud stuff this week thats so bananas its just like obviously the lawyers couldnt talk him out of it. Any good lawyer would say, if we go in and say we just lost the fraud case and we want to offer up a quarter of the bond, we look ridiculous and we will lose, lets not do it, lets not look ridiculous but they have a client who insisted and they lost very quickly. Im curious what you think about the substance of this. We hear so much about pr, molly, what do you think about the substance of donald trump rerouting donor funds to cover legal fees while telling a new york court hes not good for, he doesnt have the bond . Well, whats incredible about this case, which i think is really interesting, is that donald trump has so gotten away with things for so long, hooe been impeached twice, hes managed to bully the Republican Party into submission, so, you could see where he thinks, okay, im just going to pay less, i get away with stuff like that every day, and so, i do kind of see his thinking here, i mean, obviously the idea the court is the first time where donald trump has been treated the way Everyone Else is, right, i mean, and even then hes been able to delay things, hes been able to get the Supreme Court to look at things, which most people thought they would never look at. So so i do think hes had a lot of success but hes really a case study in what happens when you dont get held to the same account as Everyone Else. Yeah, exactly. And i want to remind people, because this all happened during the week kwekly, while a lot of other stuff was going on, its a big deal, this is from the filing about the 100 million, he owes over 400. His vast ownership in new york real estate, ongoing oversight by the monitor would alone be sufficient in the heading here to adequately secure any judgment affirmed. Trumps bond would serve as further security. This is one of the kind of biggest selfowns ive seen in a minute. And i want to just rans translate it, because its interesting. The lawyers are saying hes so rich he shouldnt have to pay. Theres so much real estate, well just give you the partial bond. I mentioned this earlier, its not trump putting up 100 million. Its him asking to put up 3 of 100 million to a company because he couldnt put up 3 of 400 mill. Elon musk has had many legal clashes and what everyone thinks of him, he has the money, and weve seen that proven in various ways. Elon musk, real multibillionaire wouldnt spend this much time and energy, by the way, spending lawyer fees and whatever, to haggle over what for him would be like, yeah, take it out of the many accounts, what do you think about the fact that donald trump is this tight, that he when i say tight, i mean hes this broke . In terms of liquidity. Whats amazing about this is remember, Donald Trumps whole presidency is built on the lie that he has unlimited funds, that hes a Genius Businessman with billions of dollars. And again, this is the where Candidate Trump gets in real trouble with, you know, Defendant Trump, right, Defendant Trump is not served by Candidate Trump, like his numbers, on the fraud case, were much, much higher because he was a candidate, you know, he went in there and said i have a gazillion dollars, and if he had gone in there and said im sorry i lied, it was the wrong thing to do. If there had been the tiniest bit of contrition, but instead donald trump has decided these court cases are really the same as rallies. Right, that hes going, because the base loves him in court, that this will somehow help him in a general. First of all, i actually dont think that will help him in a general, i think that swing voters dont like to see their president in court. I think its a very strange, you know, bargain to make, but i think he thinks that it helps him, and i think that he has had so many times, when hes gotten away with things, or been able to do, that hes going to keep doing it. Yeah, ive got one more thing for you on the other big case, Supreme Court, rachel made this point, so striking, i just want to play it about them slow walking the coup trial. Take a look. The idea that theyre going to side with him on immunity, is unthinkable, and also beside the point. The idea that this has to be taken up is them saying the sky is green. Right. And i think even for the nonlawyers among us to be able to say, you know what, the sky is not green, even on our worst day, this is b. S. , you are doing this as a dilatory tactic to help your political friend, your partisan patron and for you to say this is something the court needs to decide because its something thats unclear in the law is just flagrant, flagrant bull pucky and they know it and they dont care that we know it. Maddow calling what the Supreme Court is doing b. S. , particularly if they do what it looks like theyre on track to do, which is claim that no one is above a trial, while potentially mooting Donald Trumps trial this year. Yeah, i mean, look, this Supreme Court has made insane decisions, i mean, from everything from West Virginia versus epa, i mean, they if you look through the docket, even the small cases are just, like, all about, you know, this sort of textualism, this Federalist Society kind of tropes, im not surprised they did this. But, you know, it is very depressing to know that we have this Supreme Court that is so partisan. Yeah. And that was the other big news that weve been wanting to get to, Molly Jong Fast, good too sew you, i wish you a good weekend. I mentioned we have Something Special coming up, we have a lot in the show but from tucker to putin. We have fights over borders that go deeper into history as well as tonight we look at lessons from bob marley. Myself a revolutionary who dont have no help, and take no the fight is single handed, the music. What does it mean to wage a peaceful fight for revolution . Ziggy marley himself is our guest by the end of the hour. And maga on the run over these fights over choice, stay with us. It could be the start of a domino effect. New parodontax active gum repair breath freshener. Clinically proven to help reverse the four signs of early gum disease. A new toothpaste from parodontax, the gum experts. 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Theres an obvious electoral backlash to what trumps justices on the court helped do, overturn roe v. Wade and undermine republicans around the nation. Im hearing about 15 weeks, and i havent decided yet, also, weve got it back to the states where it belongs. A lot of states are taking very strong stances, we did a very good thing, a very big thing, a very important thing, probably hurt the republicans because a lot of republicans really didnt know how to talk about it. Kind of interesting there, donald trump who is known for lying, whos gotten in trouble, and found liable for fraud as we discussed earlier in the broadcast in a different context there is actually saying something much more directly than you hear from other republican politicians, Mitch Mcconnell doesnt put it like that, that they did overturn roe, and it does hurt republicans. The larger point is, of course, how does the Republican Party run this year in this situation . I will show you the republicans are losing on this issue, republicans have lost on the issue of choice every time it has been a ballot measure, including in states that voted for trump and are conservative as well as other states. Abortion initiatives could actually be on many more ballots, over a dozen this november, based on this being a live issue. One republican strategist in arizona says, it could really help the democrats. The abortion initiative, if it does make it to the ballot, could be joe bidens one saving grace, to get him to win arizonas 11 electoral votes. Arizona is one of the very few states in the whole country that really is up for grabs when trump lost it last time, in 2020, it was seen that night as kind of a sign that things were crumbling. Republican confusion here is a dominant problem for them this year, and this week, we had those Alabama Judges who ruled that because of what they think god says, frozen embryos would be treated legally as children. 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Welcome back, and now to our special report. This current era has, of course, many clashes over borders, which turn on history. Ukraine fighting an invasion that putin insists is an effort to merely restore what he calls russias past borders. The u. S. Congress debating how to secure the United States border with mexico, which is a product of treaties and land deals and wars, if you go back far enough. Colonialism where technology and violence was taken to pillage and envaif. The British Empire and this is not some distant far gone ancient history. It wasnt until 1997 that the British Government gave up all Colony Control of hong kong, for example, the impact on many former colonies endures, from societys disrupted to families separated to sometimes entire economies hobbled. And these are stories that involve dozens of different countries, theres no single way to tell it. But, tonight we want to reflect on how one of the most influential Global Leaders against colonialism was not a politician, or an actual rebel fighter. It was a singer. Get up stand up stand up for your rights every man got the right to decide his own destiny the reggae singer bob marley led what became a Global Movement against british colonialism and predatory capitalism and for his views of liberation, social justice, the religious beliefs he holds and pan africanism. The most iconic reggae artist of all time, a man whose artistry and song writing was always on the cusp of much the publics political frustrations. His music has become a rallying cry for millions of blacks throughout the world. For jamaicans, marley wasnt merely a great singer and writer, but more a National Hero and prophet. He was a spiritual leader and political spokesman, an advocate of marijuana, of human dignity, of black power. Marley took those beliefs and issues, and made reggae music a global sensation, but he always emphasized that his music, he viewed as a means to do something more, to try to advance social justice, liberation, and revolution, as he said at the time. Me see myself as a revolutionary, who dont have no help, and take no bribe from no one, me fight it single handed with music. With music. As a poet and a writer marleys reference there to fighting with music, may sound like a metaphor, but sure, he was peaceful, he was not literally taking up arms. We try for my career to bring peace knowing that we really cant solve a problem with a war, you know, to really solve a problem me no feel like really killing someone so i figured peace the best thing. So he was always clear at the time drawing those lines, and affirming Peaceful Revolution to his many followers he used his influence for peace. He also used his platform and power to responsibly defend the rights of dispossessed people, and that includes the right to selfdefense, the right to social Justice Movements that were trying to rebel against a violent set of colonial principles and practices. There were fighters in africa who said they viewed bob marleys music at the time as motivating their effort to change the government there. They viewed his moouk as a potent publisher of their ideas about liberation. And about overthrowing what had become long tenures of foreign oppression. Now, marleys impact is back in the news tonight, now, with this film bob marley one love, open to Box Office Success and revived many conversations about marleys work, and philosophy. Now, its also exposed it to a new generation. What marley protested then clearly resonates today, if you think about some of these issues, the critique of oppressive governments, racism, thinking back to blm and conversations in our nation, some of what marley said then has only really seemed more prophetic or more relevant over time. Them belly full but were hungry a hungry mob is an angry mob this morning i woke up in a curfew o god i was a prisoner too could not recognize the faces standing over me all dressed in uni forms of Brutality Burning and looten tonight those uniforms of brutality is a critique of oppressive police on one level, and on another, bob marley went beyond the often domestic focus of so many people, he was channelling the protests not only of his fellow citizens in his native jamaica, but also a far wider International Struggle of marginalized people in other places, in the caribbean, and in africa, resisting Foreign Colonial oppression that continued on. He was weaving together these ideas about quite literal liberation with other philosophies at the time, other political movements like marcus scarveys Back To Africa Advocacy and as mentioned his religion, and a kind of counterhistory which i want to be clear was far less accepted at the time but has become more politically mainstream, the view that european empires, however powerful their weapons, were wrong to displace native peoples in the european socalled exploration of the earth. Is the message of rastafari that you should go back to africa . Yes, and that the earth was ruled by africa, one government. Do you think of yourself more as an african than a jamaican . Yeah, because of one of the main things is that were rasta. What do you see is most of africas problems as far as uniting . I mean i see africa problem is that outside people keep on fatiguing the people, you know, and them cant really get them things together. Our history showed that through slave business, black people come over in the west and everything, so africa is the root. He was saying that, he was singing that, he was sharing that. With so many listeners of varying backgrounds around the world and if you hear it now today, think about it again, as so many people are learning about this, and seeing the film, and younger people, born after bob died are thinking about it, what we heard there was the intellectual, and policy context to many marley hits like africa unite, revolution, rebel music, one drop, and war, a song where marley fashioned the lyrics with quoting a United Nations speech by ethiopias leader who was demanding an end to White Supremacy at the time, proclaiming, quote, until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race, the dream of lasting peace and world citizenship and the rule of International Morality will remain but a fleeting illusion. That speech also invoked ongoing liberation struggles of the time. Again, quote, until the ignoble and unhappy regimes that hold our brothers in angola and mozambique, and in south africa in subhuman bondage have been toppled and destroyed, until that day the african continent will not know peace. Vowing, we africans will fight. End quote. Now, marley used his reach, his platform, and his power, his considerable talents, to take that political speech, youre watching the news, you might listen to speeches, so do i, but he wanted, marley, to take the lyrics and the ideas in that u. N. Address and bring them through song so that far more people might hear the address. And until the basic human rights are equally guaranteed to all without regard to race dis a war until that day the dream of lasting peace world citizenship and the rule of International Morality will remain in but a fleeting illusion to be pursued but never attained well everywhere is war its a war rumors of war and until that day the african continent will not know peace we africans will fight this was art, but not fiction. The lyrics from real life about real people, the real Liberation Efforts across africa and the caribbean as marley spotlighted them with real flags on the survival album cover, Including Rodisia where african residents were able to end british white rule and proclaim independence under a country name you probably know today, zimbabwe and those new leaders of that new nation invited marley to perform his Song Zimbabwe which had become an anthem of the revolutionaries. We talk about justice. We talk about art. We talk about politics. From the experience of bob marley now with a new spotlight today, we can learn so much about how truth in art can actually not only channel but shape the world around us. Many know bob marley and his many children, including ziggy involved in the new film i mentioned, and im honored to welcome back ziggy, the producer of the film one love. That was beautiful brother, thank you so much. And ziggy is staying with us to discuss further after the break. Which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal antiinflammatory medicine directly at the source. Voltaren, the joy of movement. This is patricks look of pure bliss. And this is his john deere 3 Series Tractor. It easily connects to every tool he needs, to clear the way, lift heavy loads, and as he puts it, add the strength of 10 extra people to his familys land. Every 3 Series Tractor built to deliver confidence. You just have to get in the seat. Learn more at johndeere. Com getintheseat j. P. 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I wanted to start with you, how do you remember what your father advocated and stood for, that meant so much to people then, and now . Yeah, well we saw it growing up. We saw him wanting to unify people in jamaica. We Me And My Brother was with him on a trip to zimbabwe and we experienced the whole freedom movement. We experienced it with him. And he allowed us to be there with him for a reason, you know. When you remember or reflect on that trip, did you understand then or grow to understand over time how much people there felt motivated by his music because his music by his music because it was about justice, about philosophy . When i was there is when i really realized. I cant remember, thats some of the Freedom Fighters came to the hotel room he was in. They were talking to him, showing him everything. At that point, it was something in my mind as a child, it became something bigger than just a musician or music for entertainment. It meant something more. And i realized that then. Wow. Thats wonderful. You and your family are part of this creation of this film. Lets show a clip of the new film. Theyre scared. They have seen enough. Scared of what . Everything here is politicized. I really, really dont think you should go through with this concert. Theres no way we back down. Thats bobs decision. Thank you. Be right back. You do know i was called to the american ambassadors office. What did he say . Theyre associated with someone who could destabilize the country. Tell us about making the film and trying to capture something so personal to you and to so many. Yeah, it was a positive experience because we went into it knowing that there was not just about making a film but also spreading a message within this film. That scene is actually true because thats Chris Blackwell and bob, and Chris Blackwell was called into the u. S. Embassy in jamaica and told he has been close to someone that they think can destabilize the country at that time. So those are the truth, and we went into it wanting to tell the truth. Yeah. And bring the emotional side of my father also to the people. And when you look at the film now, what do you feel is managed to capture, and what did you have to sort of leave out . Any film, any story, you dont get to include everything. Where the film was taking us, and what will feel like for us, this movie is really about bringing people closer to my father in an emotional way. Not by the accolades, not by those things but by the human side of him, what he went through and how it changed him. How it made it into who you know today. I wanted to play something we pulled because theres been debate and reaction as you would expect in many places including jamaica. Some people say wow, they love this film. Other people questioning various aspects of it or their memories. And were the news, so we welcome all of that. Were no stranger to debate. Ari, those are some people, some people. Most people love it. Some people okay. This is how we do it. All right, so you say most people love it, and i will say the box office was a strong open. What i wanted to play because we thought about how to bring this up. Let me play what we found online. This is different people, many in jamaica, can the different reception. This movie showed glimpses of what makes our people so amazing. I was so proud. The culture, and understand what it means. Kingsley played bob very well. The accent, the movement. Casting 6 out of 10. Bob marleys jamaica, yes, but his legacy is global. The movie is a very good reflection of not just the growth of reggae music, but bob, the dynamics of his family. They wanted something more. Bob used Reggae Musing to unify the people. Just a sampling, some of your thoughts on the response youre getting. Respect. Respect everyone. I respect everyones point of view. And of course, we want more. My father said no matter how you treat man, they can never be satisfied. So its like, we are very happy. We were true. We told the truth. We were true to ourselves and our art. This is art. Its an expression. And you have to have the freedom to express art in the way we feel it as artists. So this is what that is. My final question here is, what does reggae mean today for someone watching who may have been reminded or learned more about your father, learned about you and 4 familys music . What does reggae mean today . Why should people care or why does it continue to have such a global impact, which it does . Reggae is love. Reggae is love. And thats what we need right now in the world. We can be a much Better Society if we love each other more. Thats common sense. We should all know that. The more unified we are, the better as we are as a society. Reggae is love, love for one another. Respect. I love that. And you know, in the news we dont get to love every part of our job. This is one of my favorite parts. Such an honor to see you again. I hope to meet you in person, ziggy. Thanks for being here. Love you, brother. Mary, janet, hey thinking eddie, no frasier, frank. Frank . fred how are you . fred. Fuel up to 7 brain health indicators, including your memory. Join the Neuriva Brain Health challenge. Oh what a good time we will have you. Can make it happen. Try Dietary Supplements from voltaren for healthy joints. [crowd noises] [dramaticlly beat] introducing, neds plaque psoriasis. He thinks his flaky red patches are all people see. Otezla is the 1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis. Ned . Otezla can help you get clearer skin, and reduce itching and flaking. With no routine blood tests required. Doctors have been prescribing otezla for nearly a decade. Otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. Dont use otezla if youre allergic to it. Serious allergic reactions can happen. Otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. 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If you feel like that and want more of what you saw this week and what we do on the beat, set an alarm, a dvr reminder, saturday, 4 00 p. M. Eastern, 1 00 p. M. Pacific, we have the beat weekend. Some of what you have come to expect from the beat but on saturdays at 4 00 p. M. We want you to tune in if youre interested. Keep it locked here because the reidout with joy reid is up next. Tonight on the reidout they want to put me in jail. Theyre going after me without any protection of my rights by the Supreme Court or most other courts. This