guys, we're going to win this thing. i promise you we're going to win it because we haven't done anything wrong. >> oh, eric. you're not paying attention. you have already lost, remember? in september, when the judge ruled that you and your brother and your daddy lied for years on your company's financial statements. this trial, it's really just about penalties. >> also tonight, president biden visits grieving families in lewiston, maine, as we learn more about missed warning signs before the gunman killed 18 people. i'm jason johnson in for joy reid. we begin tonight with another volatile day in the $250 million civil fraud trial against the trump crime family and their company. today, a new york judge ruled that a limited gag order on donald trump should also apply to his attorneys after he said they made inappropriate remarks about his principal law clerk. judge arthur engoron's order said the lawyers for the former president and his adult sons are, quote, prohibited from making any public statements in or out of court that refer to any confidential communications in any form between my staff and me. that is legalease for keep my name and my staff's name out your mouth. failure to abide by this directive should result in serious sanctions, engoron warned. the ruling came after eric trump returned for a second day of testimony in the civil fraud suit. eric acknowledged he was aware of the trump organization's statements of financial condition as far back as 2013, ten years ago. after repeatedly denying knowledge of them, after court adjourned he ripped state attorney letitia james to reporters, taking lines straight from his father's racist playbook. >> what new york state is doing to my father is truly awful. unbelievable company, some of the best assets in the world. they dragged us, and that's damage. they want our names in this thing because it sensationalizes the case. we have done absolutely nothing wrong. we have a better company than they could have ever imagined. >> letitia james' office has argued trump's children participated in a scheme to falsely inflate their company's assets to secure more favorable loans and insurance policies. remember, the judge has already found that donald trump and his two sons engaged in persistent fraud. this trial will determine what financial fines or other punishments trump will face. that's it. it's the case that hits closest to home, and not just because it involves trump's kids. it targets trump's entire image built over decades as a symbol of wealth and power. expect to see flashes of hot trumpian anger. joining me now is adam reese who was in the courtroom today. great to talk to you. i'm going to ask you this up front. this is the thing that gets me about some of these trials, certainly with eric jr. what is he attempting to do here? because it seems like he doesn't understand that he's already been found guilty. it seems like he's trying to relitigate something that's already been taken care of. >> you're right, jason. it really has been sort of a tale of two brothers. eric being one of them, don jr. the other. don jr., 45 years old, the elder brother. much more comfortable on the stand. amiable, cracking jokes with the judge. having a banter with the prosecutor. but sticking to his story, which is he relied on the attorneys and the accountants and his cpa, but as you mention, eric is an entirely different story. eric's testimony last two days, very fraught, very contentious. he doesn't remember a lot of things. he says, you know, i pour concrete. i am a developer. i'm a real estate guy. i am way, way above all of these intricate details of the finances. but he really got caught up in the details. and in the evidence. the documents, the emails, the signatures. his signature is on so many documents. and there were gotcha moments. he changed his story numerous times. first he didn't know about the statements of financial condition. then he said, well, maybe there were some, but i really didn't have anything to do with it. then at the end, he said you know what, yes, that does look familiar. but it really underestimates my father's wealth. he and his brother walked out of the courtroom, both of them thumbs up. but i must say, the judge is probably going to give them a thumbs down. >> adam reese, thank you so much for laying that out and starting us off tonight on "the reidout." let's bring in glenn kirschner and charles coleman jr. both are former federal prosecutors and msnbc legal analysts. glenn, i'll start with you. as much as i love this sort of kindle and roman thing they have going on when they go to trial here, it seems to me like i can't tell if this is a strategy or it's just eric trump doesn't know any better. do you think there is some sort of larger plan with the trump brothers where one is like, i'm going to play the jerk, and you're going to play the guy who is slightly more sophisticated? are they hoping that will change the penalties and fines they face, or are they just acting in their personalities? >> nobody will accuse these characters of being tactical geniuses, because what they should have done is plead the fifth and go home. listen, as you already pointed out, judge engoron has already ruled against trump and company on liability, and now the question is, how much will they have to disgorge, how much of the ill gotten gains they have courtesy of their fraud should they have to give back? but the other thing in the mix here is will they be prohibited, essentially, from doing business in new york in the future. so all i can figure is they think maybe they can talk their way out of being prohibited from continuing to work as part of the new york business world. i have a hard time believing judge engoron is going to fall for any of this nonsense when somebody like don jr. testifies that yes, i was the certifying official, yes, i signed my name on that document, certifying that it was accurate, but i had no idea if it was accurate or not because my accountants were really the bad guys. so were you crooked or were you just so incredibly grossly incompetent and you just didn't care? neither one of them makes for a particularly good new york businessman. >> charles, continuing with our sort of succession metaphor here, we have already talked about kendall and roman. now let's talk about shiv, ivanka. ivanka trump, the court just rejecting her desire to avoid testimony because she said she's too busy to testify during a school week and they basically said that's nonsense, you still have to come in even though she claimed he would be suffering undue harpship. one, under what circumstances would that argument have worked, and two, if you look at the three children in the trump organization, which is the one who is the most likely to cause the most damage? is it don, is it ivanka? which one of them is most likely to cause the most damage as far as possibly raising the amount of fines, fees, or penalties they could face? >> well, jason, to your first question, the notion of not being able to testify on the basis of a hardship exception is going to require a very high standard in terms of you meeting that bar. and ivanka trump basically saying hey, i have to get my kids from school for one day of testimony is not going to meet that. usually, you're talking about people who have extreme circumstances who are outside of the jurisdiction and for whom it would be a serious burden to get to court and to testify, and i might add, who are not essential witnesses. so all of those things are going to be factors that play into whether a judge makes the decision as to whether to let you off the hook from testifying along with the length of your testimony. for one day in a jurisdiction you already reside in for the reasons you have offered, you're not seriously medically ill, something you can't come to court, you're not immobile or in incapacitated. that would not reach the standard to allow a judge to excuse you. to your second question, i'm going to argue eric trump is probably going to do the most damage with respect to this case. don jr. has a very particular role because he was named as a trustee for the irrevocable trust once donald trump became president, but it's eric who had the most consistent presence. his name and presence looms largely over the organization in comparison to any of his kids. so that's the thing that i think don and eric and ivanka and donald trump need to be most concerned about, is eric and his testimony, which is why in part i believe he was so adversarials when he was on the stand testifying. >> glenn, talk about adversarial. the trump team has decided that they're going to just keep going after law clerks and staff members and everything like that. they have done this all along. it's not like that's new behavior from donald trump. not like that's new behavior from anybody associated with him, but i have to ask you, i'm not a lawyer, i don't play one on tv. i have seen plenty of legal shows though. what on earth could be the possible use of angering a judge by attacking their staff? do they think this is going to result in a delay? do they think they're going to anger this judge so much that he'll make a mistake and they can justify calling for a mistrial? what is the purpose of trump's team attacking his clerks? >> your guess is as good as mine, but i have a feeling they're using it as a distraction. they would rather people be talking about and us covering this feud that's going on between the trumps and trump's attorney and the judge and the judge's law clerk than talking about the rampant fraud that was going on, you know, in the trump organization and how much they are going to be made to pay. and the other thing, if i can circle back, i think ivanka is a real potential danger because, one, she's tried so desperately not to testify. that seems to be something of a red flag. but even more importantly, think back to the january 6th public hearings, when she testified, we saw the video of her behind closed doors testimony. she said in substance, i don't believe my father's claim of fraud undermining the election. i believe bill barr. boy, that was sort of ivanka introducing her father to the undercarriage of a bus. so it may very well be that she's so desperately trying to stay out of the courtroom because if she testifies truthfully, it's going to hurt dad and her brothers. >> she's going to leave in the limo holding hands with jared while her two brothers are fighting in the office. look, i see this trial as being part of our overall sort of analysis of how dangerous and how problematic it is that this family has been in a position of power, but i also think some of this trial is highlighting how unfill donald trump is. i want to play you sound from the jean carroll deposition with trump where the man seems not entirely clear about what's going on or who he's talking about. >> it's marla. >> you say marla is in this photo? >> it's marla, my wife. >> which woman are you pointing to? >> here. >> the person you pointed to is e. jean carroll. >> i'm not shocked that donald trump can't keep track of the names or even the images of women he has harassed and abused in his life, but charles, when somebody can't even testify as to who they have abused, i mean, is this something that is problematic for the lawyers? is this something they may try to weaponize later on and say hey, he's not even competent to stand trial? it's like trump was caught three or four different women ago he abused and he wasn't able to figure out who he was talking about. >> i don't think it's going to rise to the level of comp taenls, but if you're one of his attorneys you have to wrestle with the fact you have a client who has normalized talking out of both sides of his mouth and made it sort of a point that the american public almost comes to expect it. if you think about donald trump, and now you're seeing both eric and donald borrow these talking points, for the same guy who says, for example, i got the best people. i know the best words. i have been all the places and i know all the people, he has an uncanny ability to say i have never seen anything like this. for a guy who has seen and been everywhere, he loves to talk about with respect to the justice system, he's never seen anything like this, the political witch hunt, and you're starting to see his children borrow the same talking points on the courthouse steps. that's significant because as one of his attorneys it's very difficult to deal with a client who you don't know which clients you're going to get on a given day or at a different point on a given day. that's something that all of his attorneys in all of his cases have to contend with. >> been around the world and i i i can't even identify the people i have victimized. thank you so much, glenn and charles. up next, on "the reidout," president biden travels to lewiston, maine, in the wake of yet another mass shooting. amid concerns about how so many red flags could have been missed or ignored. 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we keep saying this, we say this, i could do a supercut of me talking about mass shootings in america, and every single time, we get thoughts and prayers. is there any likelihood of a change after this shooting? or are we just going to be having the same conversation in six weeks, six months, six years? >> well, you know, i think in the wake of tragedy, in the wake of another american community grieving, in the wake of another presidential visit to try to put some salve on the wound, it's hard to find hope. it's hard to think that things will be different this time. i will say that the progress we have made, though not the progress we deserve, has been really remarkable in the last ten years. the gun violence prevention movement is standing up against a gun lobby and their allies in congress and state legislatures to make the change that once seemed impossible and last year culminated in the most significant piece of federal legislation in 30 years. but ask anybody, it's not enough. we need more. we should expect more from the elected officials that are here to keep us safe. and we plan to demand it until they start to make the change. >> and nick, one of the things that strikes me is that even if there are red flags, even if someone like card is reported by multiple people, it's still a system where he's able to get access to the guns. isn't the issue not whether or not people can warn folks, not whether or not someone said hey, he's got mental health problems. it's the fact he had access to guns. is it more of an access issue than a policy issue? >> i think it very much is both. for one, when are the guns going to start making us safe? if guns made us safer, we would be the safest country in the world. instead, we have a homicide rate 25 times that of our peer nations. i really do think it's both. i think that we can look at the interventions and the failures along the way, and that's real. we can look at the policies and say, policies like red flag laws are designed exactly for this situation. to temporarily remove a firearm from somebody who poses a risk to themselves and others. maine doesn't have one of those. and they could, and they should. and they must take action. then there's the question of why does a man like this shooter get access to a weapon of war that can inflict dozens of deaths and injuries in a matter of minutes? and i think the answer to that question is, we need to reinstate the assault weapons ban. it worked for ten years in this country. it's time to bring it back. and then the last thing that we can do, the last name on my accountability list, is the gun manufacturers that continue to profit off of selling these guns. you know, stern ruger, the maker of this firearm, sold this weapon this year. there's profit in somebody's pocket from this shooting. we never talk about the manufacturers. tomorrow, they could decide to stop making these weapons of war. they don't because they're hungry for more money and they want to sell more guns and they will sell more guns in the wake of a tragedy like this because people are afraid. and so, there's a long list of accountability here. there's a long list of actions we need to take. and the time is now to take them. we don't need any more wakep calls. >> i want to ask you also very quickly, propublica has a new story out. next week, the supreme court will decide if domestic abuse orders can bar people from having guns. look, this seems like a no-brainer, right? if you have been accused, if you have been convicted of domestic violence, if you are suspected of domestic violence, the last thing you should be allowed to do is get access to a firearm. can we not add the supreme court of the united states to the list of people who we should be trying to hold account whbl it comes to america's inability to get itself off that narcotic of unnecessary and excessive amounts of guns? >> i forgot somebody on my list. you're absolutely right. on tuesday, the supreme court is going to hear this case, the rahimy case. and look, already in the last year, we have faced a just absolutely dangerous and irresponsible decision from the supreme court, loosening the second amendment. this guy, rahimy, accused of domestic violence, under a protective order, found with a firearm. suspected in multiple shootings, and this is the poster child for the guns everywhere agenda of the gun lobby. the supreme court has to get this one right. we can't afford to have overnight domestic abusers armed in 50 states across the country. we're hopeful the supreme court will get it right. if they don't, they got to be on our accountability list too. and unfortunately, you know, time and again, this court has let us down. we're hoping this isn't one of those times. >> nick, thank you so much for the work that you do and for joining us tonight on "the reidout." coming up, secretary of state blinken meets with israeli officials as calls for a humanitarian cease-fire in gaza grow louder. we'll be right back. this is jason johnson on "the reidout." why choose between a longer life or quality of life? 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there's a report now about an ambulance that was struck. what do you know about that and what can you share? >> reporter: yes, so there's been a bit of back and forth there. let me take you through what we know now. the palestinian red crescent has released another statement further explaining what they say happened today. we're talking about two different strikes on a group of ambulances. the palestinian red crescent says there was a convoy of ambulances leaving a hospital in gaza city. they said there were five ambulances in all, four of them were ambulances that are owned and operated by gaza's ministry of health, which by nature of working inside of gaza, that would make them a hamas run agency. then one of those five ambulances is owned and operated by the palestinian red crescent. according to the palestinian red cres nlt, they were leaving heading to the rafah border crossing with egypt with injured patients going across gaza into egypt to get medical care. at some point along the way, on their route, they say there was massive damage to the road they were going to be taking, and so they turned around to take a different route. that's when according to the palestinian red crescent the israeli air force targeted the first ambulance in that convoy and struck them from above. they say then the other ambulances started to head back to the hospital and then again, one of the ambulances in this convoy was struck when it was at the gates of the hospital. based on the numbers so far, they're saying at least 15 people have died in these attacks, possibly as many as 60 have been injured. israel's defense forces say yes, we did strike some ambulances, but they claim that they did that because they had evidence that the ambulance was being used by hamas militants. they released a statement saying that was their rationale for striking this convoy and those ambulances. they went on to claim they would release additional information to support those claims. additional evidence. they have not yet done that. they say that hamas was using the ambulance to transport weapons and they have used it to operate out of. one thing i think is important to talk about, jason, is there was a press conference about 30 minutes before that convoy of ambulances left the hospital. one of our nbc news teams in gaza was at the press conference and during the press conference, the director for gaza's ministry of health said, we have a convoy of ambulances that are headed this way. this is what they're doing and this is the route they will be taking. then they were struck. the palestinian red crescent said this was absolutely beyond the bounds of a legitimate target. back to you. >> ellison barber, thank you so much for joining us this evening. let's bring in elise babbitt, contributing editor of politico magazine and senior adjunct professor at the international school of service. thank you for joining us this evening. dr. abbott, here's my just very basic question. i know we are not military experts here. but it seems to me based on what secretary of state blinken said, if netanyahu, if we take him at his word, netanyahu's primary concern is the return of hostages taken by hamas. how is the current strategy employed by israel effective in getting those people returned? it would seem to me that small strike forces or, you know, sort of sending people on the ground would be a much more effective way of returning hostages than bombing. is there some part that we're missing here? is there some sort of strategic thing that israel is thinking about that is beyond me at least at this particular point? >> well, there's a lot to unpack. and there are -- that is a priority, is the hostages. but there are two priorities that the israelis have, right? one of them is the hostages. the other is to completely gut hamas, kill all the leadership, destroy all their military capability. so i think one is rubbing up against the other. and you know, you and i might say, is that a very effective policy? is that a very effective strategy? the united states is saying to the israelis and have been even before they went in, this is not the strategy. it's more of one that you have suggested. more of a surgical, more of an in and out, more very targeted ground strategy in terms of taking out some of these targets. but at the same time, the u.s. is also giving mixed messages here to the israelis. they're saying israel has the obligation to defend itself. we have israel's back. and then they say, be mindful of the loss of life. i don't think obviously we don't know exactly what they're saying to the israelis behind the scenes. i don't think it's a green light by any measure, but i think they're giving the israelis a lot of leeway to have -- they think they should be fighting the campaign even if the united states and a lot of arab states don't think this is the right way to go. >> professor, this is the other part that gets me about this. the tide, if you just go by straight polling, the tide seems to be changing as far as how americans feel about the united states' support of the current strategy. and want to make this distinction. a difference between having disagreements with strategy and having disagreements with a nation's right to exist and people's safety and concern, and what we're seeing now is you have 14emoctic senators calling for a short-term cessation of hostilities in gaza. that is significant. that is significant. we're not just talking about liberal senators. we're not just talking about people who have protesters sitting outside their offices. hot is the internal pressure in the united states government doing for how joe biden and blinken may be negotiating with netanyahu? because if there's not a lot of support back home for how things are going there, you would think that would change some of the strategy or at least some of the outward rhetoric. >> you picked the $1,000 question. i mean, there is a lot of pressure here at home. and there has been growing even before this war. you have seen there was that progressive wing of the democratic party that was becoming more sympathetic to the palestinians. youth have come and the youth vote is very important to president biden. and as you said, these are mainstream democrats. i think you can see as the administration's messages are growing stronger, that they're feeling that pressure. i mean, look, israel seems to think this strategy is going to be what gets those hostages out. that they're going to put pressure on hamas, and hamas is going to release the hostages. that's not working. and so all these years, you know, prime minister netanyahu has said to successive american presidents y have this domestic pressure. i have to talk to my base. you have to help me in terms of my domestic pressures. right now, president biden has a lot of domesting pressures and the truth is the israelis, i don't want to say they don't care, but they feel this is an existential moment for them, and they're going to fight this campaign the way that they see fit. i do think, though, over the next couple days a senior administration official just briefed reporters on a call, they haven't made an agreement on this humanitarian pause that secretary blinken has been talking about. i think you're going to see that in the next couple days. if you remember, when those hostages were released, specifically the mother and the daughter, the americans, those were negotiated a pause so they could get out safely. it can be done. i do think that the administration is getting closer to getting israel to agree to at least a pause. >> professor, thank you so much for sharing with us what is happening all over the world. and especially in israel and gaza. who won the week is still ahead. but first, the rampant spread of misinformation marks the lead-up to important votes on abortion rights in virginia and ohio next week. what's being done to fight it, next on "the reidout." —center —s crushed by a baby grand piano. you're replacing me? 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of these upcoming elections. the start that hits me is if democrats end up being able to take one of these houses back, if they're able to take over one of these chambers it shoots a hole in the idea that glenn youngkin has done a great job in virginia. he's not going to be the middle of the road savior for the republican party. what's your take? >> i agree with that. i think that there's been a lot of tea reading in every election this cycle about what does it portend for 2024. i think that the reality is that virginia is a true bellwether and has been for a number of years. and with the election of glenn youngkin, you know, that's when we saw the first, you know, anti-crt debate start. we saw the book banning and attacks on black history and the first crazy school board meetings. it really is kind of a harbinger for what is to come. the only thing standing between a full-on maga agenda is the very slim majority that they have in the senate right now in the state senate right now. so that's really what's at stake. you know, republicans since they took control of the house of delegates have really -- and closed the majority that democrats have in the senate, they have tried everything at the federal level. they tried abortion bans. they tried to restrict voting rights. they have attacked lgbtq rights. everything we have seen, and so if we see a change in the senate, if they take senate, they expand their control of the house of delegates with glenn youngkin's sitting at the governor, we will see the full on mega agenda that republicans would like to be able to do, and move out the federal level. atstak it's very serious and concerning. >> for now, i want to look at the state of ohio. this is kind of an interesting case to me, because ohio has been trending read the last three or four election cycles. presidential election cycles. yet it looks like right now that the majority of the population once abortion to be in trying to, protections for abortion access to be enshrined in the constitution. my question is into whether or not it's going to win or lose, my question is why is it that why haven't democrats been able to translate a crucial policy issue into more success in their state houses, or at the federal level? because it doesn't make any sense to me that in a red state it's like, hey, the majority of people want to protect their access to abortion, but they keep voting for state legislators who are trying to take it away. explain this to me. >> jason, i think one of the issues is democrats have got to understand that this issue of protecting abortion access is all along the lines of protecting all the freedoms that this might got a strong missed party that is the republican party that they want to take away. that's why these results in virginia, the ones you mentioned in ohio, are so critical. because depending on what happens it's going to be, as adrianne said, yes, a harboring or, but also determine how this money is spent in 2024. -- if this issue is held, and democratic voters come to the polls in a mass that's going to strand a strong message that the money needs to be there again for sherrod brown and other vulnerable states, so it's not just the senate states, but state legislatures. other races up and down the ballot, are protected. the other problem here is we've had a major game change in variable change in the last couple weeks. it's a very scary, let's put it on the table, honestly. mike johnson the new speaker of the house he's for a national abortion ban. if these issues come up short in both of these states, he's going to see that as a greenlight to go pedal to the metal, and make that even more of an issue in 2024. the stakes couldn't be higher, jason. >> speaking of things going higher, let's talk a little bit about ron desantis's shoes. there are rumors being spread right now that the governor of your state has been weighing boot lists in order to make himself seem taller. i'm going to play a little bit of sound from you from ron, and get your thoughts on the other side. where he talks about donald trump and a certain kind of fetish. >> there's no time for foot fetishes. we've got serious problems as a country. i know donald trump did a lot of his people have been focusing on things like footwear. i will tell you this, donald trump can have the balls to show up for a debate, i'll wear a boot on my head. >> fernand, there's nothing i'm going to say that's appropriate. what are your thoughts quickly? >> that is the sound of a desperate demand who is always going to be beta to donald trump's alpha. doesn't matter what she or boot size he wears. he knows his campaign is coming to a quick, humiliating and embarrassing and. coupled with the fact that even people in florida, jason are abandoning him in masters. talk of resignations and folks who've endorsed him fleeing and switching over to trump in the coming weeks. >> fernand and adrianne are sticking around to share their picks for who won the week. that's next after this quick break. ck break. 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