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Strategic maneuvers, the pentagon sending a major message overnight, the u. S. Is beefing up its Military Presence in the middle east to help defend israel if necessary. What this means for the ongoing israelhamas war, ahead in a live report. And Mission Possible veterans of a nonprofit going the distance to fly americans stranded in israel back home. We will talk to the ceo. Speaker scramble we are closing in on three full weeks without a permanent speaker of the house. And nearly a dozen republicans want that job. Can they get their chaos caucus on board inside the complicated search for a speaker ahead . Plus, gag orders, finds, and flips. The court hits, including a judge threatening to throw trump in jail, just keep coming for the disgraced ex president. And as nbc legal analyst and friend of the show, joyce vance joins us later to sort it all out. And a good Sunday Morning to you all. I am katie phang. It is still unclear when israel will act on the Ground Invasion into gaza as the Israel Hamas War marks day 15. Overnight, the pentagon announced the United States is increasing its Military Presence in the region. The new show of force includes moving the u. S. As dwight d. Eisenhower Carrier Strike group to the Central Command area and the Eastern Mediterranean sea. Secretary of defense lloyd austin says this is to help defend israel if necessary, and to stop iran and its proxy forces from entering into the fray. New this morning, the Israeli Military claims it killed the Deputy Commander of hamas by a rocket fired last night. Nbc news has not independently verified this claim. It comes as Israel Defense forces are increasing airstrikes in gaza, including one leveling a popular market. Now, diplomatic efforts continue as officials call for continuous aid supplies through the rafah crossing amid a growing humanitarian crisis. This morning, new signs that more aide is on the way to gaza and in nbc news producer in cairo reports a convoy of 17 trucks bringing aid entering the egyptian side of the rafah Border Crossing. This comes after the rafah crossing briefly opened to allow 20 trucks into gaza yesterday. But Gaza Health Minister reports that the entire convoy did not include any fuel and contained just 3 of what is needed by civilians on a daily basis. Now, that briefing did not allow for the movement of any civilians with at least 400 american citizens still trapped amid the infighting. Today, israels Military Spokesperson said 212 hostages are being held in gaza. And President Biden is vowing to bring ten american hostages home, after two of them were released by hamas last week. Joining me now is nbc news Foreign Correspondent Josh Lederman whos reporting live for us from ofakim, israel south of tel aviv. Josh, good morning. Thanks for joining us. What are the u. S. Leaders saying about increasing its Military Presence in israel . Reporter hey, good morning, katie. Defense secretary lloyd austin is saying that he has made this decision to increase the u. S. Military presence following consultations with president joe biden. And in addition to moving those Carrier Strike groups, that you mentioned, under the command of u. S. Central command, which oversees the u. S. Military presence here in the middle east, he also said that the u. S. Is deploying a patriot anti aircraft battery, as well as that Missile Defense capabilities to this region, as well the u. S. Will be moving more troops on to a ready to deploy status, which means that they could very quickly move into position here in the middle east if called upon. But we should point out, katie, they were still says they have no plans to put boots on the ground in the gaza strip, or somehow be directly involved in kinetic action there. But this is more about the concern about what happens if this starts to spiral and bring into play a broader conflict in the region. Just overnight, we saw israeli airstrikes not only in the gaza strip, but also in the west bank, and also targeting two sites in syria. Weve seen iran threatening to get involved. So, this is really an effort by the u. S. To increase its deterrence to countries like iran and syria. They are six trying to keep this contained to here in israel and not let expire into a much broader conflict. Josh, were obviously keeping an eye on whats happening on the Northern Border of gaza. But were also interested in whats happening at the rafah Border Crossing, which is down in the southern part of gaza. Are there any new plans to let foreigners out of the gaza strip and to allow that critical aid in . Reporter as far as the aid, there is some positive movement this morning. After yesterdays delivery that you were just mentioning, it wasnt clear if that was gonna be a onetime thing or if it was gonna come day after day. Now, we are seeing those 17 aid trucks. They moved into the egyptian side of the border. Think about it, thats kind of a no mans land between egypt and gaza. Thats where those trucks are now. They havent yet gone into the gaza side. But its promising that they at least made some progress through that border checkpoint. But as far as getting civilians out, we frankly just havent seen any progress on that front in days, katie. There have been thousands of foreigners, dual nationals, including americans, who have been waiting at that Border Crossing for days, hoping maybe Today Is The Day that some people will get out. But for now, they remain waiting without any immediate prospect for making it out of the gaza strip, katie. Yes, thanks to you, Josh Lederman, our nbc news Foreign Correspondent. We were actually able to have live footage of the rafah Border Crossing while youre explaining it. Please, stay safe, josh. We appreciate you. Thank you. So, we are now also here in the United States on day 18 of a speakerless house of representatives. Republicans are grouping tomorrow for a candidate form with an internal vote scheduled for 9 am Tuesday Morning to take the temperature of the caucus. Senate members have announced their intention to r wh a few others still publicly mulling a bit, most notably, Majority Whip tom emmer has thrown his hat into the ring and is considered to be an early front runner after securing an endorsement from former speaker Kevin Mccarthy. However, former President Donald Trump is reportedly trying to put his thumb on that ever scale, citing his lack of loyalty, and his criticism of trump after the capitol insurrection. Joining me now is msnbc political analyst and former republican congressman david jolly. David, you know, chaos is one thing, this organization and dysfunction is another. But, you know, it is pretty much freezing any progress for americans. Its a completely horrific situation. Lets talk about House Majority whip tom emmer. Is he to moderate . And putting that in quotes, is he too moderate for House Republicans to unite behind . Absolutely not too moderate. In fact, one of the things that all of the candidates have in common is they share and ideology around immigration, around health care, around labor, around questions of life and choice, and around questions, frankly, Of Civil Rights and voting rights. They are all extremely hard right. Tom emmer would be the natural pick in a moment where everything has collapsed, and you just reach for a consensus candidate. But the problem is, katie, he is one of the members that voted to certify the 2020 election. And so, donald trump is a suspicious of him. Trump nation is suspicious of him. And the Republican Caucus that has such a small minority, or a small majority, it only takes a handful of people who say, okay, mr. Trump, i will oppose emmer. I agree, emmer is probably the front runner. But emmer, if he gets 217 votes on the floor, not of donald trump says dont do it, enough people will follow the former president. Yes, you know, david, im gonna disagree with you a little bit because i feel like the fact that donald trump is so busy dealing with all of his legal drama, i dont really think he has as much say anymore, influence. We saw he did not get involved with the Kevin Mccarthy disposing of him as speaker of the house. And frankly, jim jordan and donald trump are Kissing Cousins at this point. Jim jordans gonna pull the votes, in some ways, do you think, david, that some people, some members of the gop are finding their spines again, and saying, you know what . Enough of the chaos caucus. Were not gonna put somebody like jim jordan into a place like the speakership. I agree with you, katie. Donald trump, for sleet, doesnt have the same influence. In fact, you saw in a sacred ballot more than 100 republicans oppose jim jordan. But i would suggest trumpism still has a grip and a hold. In fact, there was the likes of steve bannon and fox news that immediately came out and post emmer when it appeared he might be the natural choice. We are entering a face very similar, and im using the analogy, its a hard one elevated the speakership. Hopefully the analogy ends on this one. But in that environment, you had gingrich, a highprofile speaker leaving. You had his next to in line the not wanted or could not get there, a high power chair person could not get there. And it felt that somebody, nobody knew that the nation did not know. And frankly, even within the Republican Caucus, somebody that hadnt really made enemies, the stage was added i think this is the last stage of the speakers race when they look for somebody largely anonymous, the nation doesnt know, and they get behind him or her. David, this has become deeply personal for some members. First, it was matt gaetz, very publicly against Kevin Mccarthy. And then, several lawmakers are now saying their families, including themselves, have received threats for not backing jim jordan, for example republican don bacon saying his wife had to sleep with a loaded gun near her bed as a result of those threats. Is this the state of the current Republican Party, either back me, or get violently bullied . Yeah, i think this moment has been 15 years and the making. Look, some are lone actors, grassroots, political activists. [inaudible] that requires a Law Enforcement intervention. Some of the voices on conservative media from fox news to the internet to social media. But what we know is as donald trump and our u. S. Intel agencies back this up with that, the amount of threats of violence related to political ideology have increased dramatically. And that is because if there is one ideology underpinning trumpism, its that somehow, you need to fight back [inaudible] weaponized against you. And therefore, this is a fight for your very freedom. That ignites a lot of violence for the country. Its wrong. Its despicable. Its a reflection of where we are. But while the republicans are fighting amongst themselves, we have some serious pressure on congress to actually do something with President Bidens 105 Billion Dollar quest for international aid. Does the fact that there are some very high stakes geopolitical moments across the righnow, do you think thats gonna have any kind of sobering effect on this particular iteration on this Republican Party . In substance, i dont think republicans care about this. A majority of republicans dont want to govern. They want to shut government down. They dont want to have a functioning government. And that has created this tension. How do you get the keys to a speaker and say, hey, go govern, by sharing everything down. I think while we motivated them, its an embarrassment. Because we are at a time of international crisis, there are three major pieces of legislation that need to be considered, aid to israel, aid to ukraine, and the federal budget where time is running out. Eventually, they will be embarrassed by those, the inability to address those crises. But they dont actually want to address them. On ukraine, if they can get control of the house again, they wont move. On the president s budget, they will slice their request for aid. And on the appropriations process, they want to shut everything down. None of the candidates currently running for speaker actually want to govern. They want to oppose Chuck Schumer and joe biden. And that creates a question, how do you get the 2 17 in this environment . Its really the threat of being embarrassed nationally, or handing the keys to Hakeem Jeffries that ultimately will motivate republicans to get this together. Hashtag just in the five, for the 217 for speaker Hakeem Jeffries. It seems like an easy lift, in my opinion. Former congressman david jolly, thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. Thanks. And this morning, investigators are trying to find a motive and a suspect after a detroit synagogue president was found stabbed to Death Outside of her home on saturday. 40yearold Samantha Walt was declared dead at the scene. Detroit Police Department chief releasing a statement asking everyone to please remain patient while investigators are carefully examining all of the available evidence. She had led the Isaac Downtown synagogue in detroit since 2022, and had previously worked for democratic congresswoman Elissa Slotkin and on the Reelection Campaign for Michigan Attorney general dana nessel. We are expected to have an update in the case later today. Still to keeping our eye on the rafah Border Crossing on the Egypt Gaza Line where a u. N. Convoy of 17 aid trucks should be able to enter into gaza soon. But first, our indepth look at the battle that continues after the break, former Capitol Hill Police officer sergeant aquilino gonell, who testified before the january six special committee, joins us with his thoughts on staunch Election Deniers being in the running for the next house speaker. Keep it right here. My frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. For one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. One pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. My name is marie. 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One of our producers for nbc news thats on the ground in egypt, in cairo says that in gaza, the trucks have not yet entered that gaza side of the Border Crossing. We just had Josh Lederman on a few minutes ago. Hes explained that this kind of a no mans land between egypt and gaza, and thats where this convoy and the trucks are currently located. 17 of them, with relief and aid supplies intending to enter into gaza to be able to provide that to the palestinians that are currently there. We are gonna follow this throughout the morning. Were gonna bring you updates when we get new information. So far, ive had for death threats. Ive been evicted from my office in colorado. I have a notice of eviction because the landlord is mad with my Voting Record on the speaker issue. And everybody in the conference is getting this. So, its natural. Family members have been approached and threatened. Republican Congressman Ken Buck telling Nbcs Kristen Welker just how volatile the speakers race has become. But it makes sense their public and parties hostile style of violent governing. All we have to do is look at the aftermath of january 6th. In 2022, instead of condemning those who supported the insurrectionists and its supreme leader, donald trump, the rnc chose to formally censure to republican lawmakers, liz cheney and adam kinzinger, because they chose to expose the truth about the attack on our nations capital. And the official Censure Resolution referred to the January 6th Investigation as, quote, persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. So, when storming the capital to illegally overturn an election is considered, quote, legitimate political discourse by the rnc, its a death threat among friends. Joining me now is someone who survived the tragic violence of january 6th, former capitol Police Officer and the author of the new book, American Shield, the Immigrant Sergeant who defended democracy, sergeant aquilino gonell. Sergeant, its an honor to have you on the show. Number one, thank you for your service on many levels, not only serving in our armed forces for the United States, but also serving as an officer with the u. S. Capitol police. Back in july of 2021, sir, while testifying before the house select committee, you described the Capitol On January 6th as a, quote, medieval battleground. You were injured so badly that day that you required multiple surgeries and your career in Law Enforcement and it. I want to hear your thoughts as this speaker race is currently going on. I want to know what you thought about the Republican Partys repeated embrace of violent threats and intimidation tactics which have now inflamed that speaker race. Good morning. Thank you for having me. On your show. I continue to be amazed and stunned to know that the Republican Party, the party of the rule of law, at least thats what they claim to be, they continue to double down on a lot of things that are shown to the country to what their model is. If you look at the speaker race, you know, having a notion of nominating someone who has repeatedly gone against what the constitution stands full, somebody who would try to to go against it. And then be nominated multiple times. Someone who is a Material Witness to the events of january 6th, who has refused to participate in the investigation and followup with a subpoena that was issued to him for multiple months already. And thats the person they best find to qualify, someone who defied the constitution, that is stunning. Sergeant, while you are speaking, we had a graphi that showed the names of the House Republicans that have put their hats into the right to be able to become the next speaker. And among them, seven Election Deniers. Its not even that they just denied the election was on, sir, they actually voted to overturn the Election Results of 2020. How troublesome is it to you that being an election denier isnt immediately disqualifying to hold one of the top legislative positions in our United States congress . It is a disservice to all the sacrifices that not only myself did, my colleagues and our forefathers. I mean, you have the constitution, the violation continued repeatedly, trying to overthrow the government. Now, they are changing the state Election Officials to potentially vote against not certifying the election, depending on what we saw those are. So, it has become like a litmus test for them to, in order for them to show fealty to the former president , they have to say all those things. And unless there is fear or danger to themselves, like congressman buck, like he was saying he was receiving threats, we did warn him and everybody else when we testified that weve had this conversation, the way their rhetoric and all these things that they have been doing since the election, since january 6th, if they continue that, then they will be getting threats. But they only care for their own safety, when their own safety is at stake. And thats what i want changed. Do i commend them for doing that and saying those things . Not really. Because now it is his family that is gaining getting affected by this. But they had a chance to put this guy, the former president , away politically. And they refused to. So it is up to themselves now that, oh, it is my family thats being affected, therefore, i need to care and Say Something about it, which is sad sergeant, i want to talk about your new book, American Shield. It follows your journey. You emigrated to the United States from the dominican republic. And i want people to know you actually took the oath of service to serve in the United States army before you actually even took your oath to be a u. S. Citizen. You felt it was so important to you to be able to serve in that capacity to defend the United States. You served in iraq. And then, you came back and you worked as the u. S. Capitol Police Officer. For those people that are gonna go and get your book and read your book, what do you want them to take away from that story, which is exclusively yours . Well, as i was speaking about my book, the idea of me joining the military had been before, for all the reasons, education. But 9 11 changed that, and then i developed affinity to this nation, not a person. I had done a lot of sacrifices overseas, and also as a capitol Police Officer. So i literally checked all the boxes that the gop says should be enough for an individual where it should be in this country, i had served in this country, and the military. I learn the language. I have been a productive member in society. I became a Police Officer. I defended the country both overseas and here. And so, i dont understand sometimes when they say for an actor or Something Like that, that i picked all the boxes that they created for me to fill. And i checked each and every one of those. And yet, they dont think that its worth for them to mention me, and im not saying i should be. Im saying thats what they say, i dont expect that happening either. Had ive been saying antifa, black lives matter, or anyone in the group, as if they were attacking the Capitol On January 6th, im sure they will be calling me every day. But they dont. Adam kinzinger and liz cheney are the only ones out of those people that i risked My Life For On January 6th have been the ones from the republican side had talked to me and had given me the time to listen to me and my colleagues. I started the segment by thanking you for your service. I will continue to thank you for your service. You said during this interview that youve sworn oath to defend a country not a person. And you have defended our country and americans from enemies both foreign and domestic, u. S. Capitol Police Sergeant aquilino gonell, thank you for joining me, and your book American Shield is out for our viewers to read. Thanks for being here. Thanks for having me. And we are still looking at a live footage of a convoy of 17 aid trucks. They are currently located at the border of egypt and gaza at the rafah Border Crossing. They are currently in an area more on the side of egypt. They have not entered into gaza yet. They are carrying aid. 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But this is positive news because it wasnt clear whether there was gonna be any movement today, of humanitarian aid, or whether yesterdays convoy of seven trucks was gonna be one of. That was the big concern. Maybe they got those through, but then they werent gonna be able to sustain this. If today is successful and they are able to really make a playbook for this, doing this they after day, that could pave the way for a larger number of trucks to cross through the border. Because as weve been reporting, humanitarian aid groups are saying this is just a drop in the bucket. There is so far insufficient for the humanitarian need in the gaza strip right now. What the red cross says they need to see is a much larger group of trucks on a daily wear them to be able to be meeting the dire humanitarian needs of the gaza strip right now. Just, am i being overly optimistic that we now have two days in a row of aid convoys being allowed into gaza that perhaps this is some indication that perhaps more humanitarian aid could comment on a regular basis. Or is it just too early to tell . Reporter a regular basis. That is certainly the hope. It is too early to tell. But that has been the hope that if they can get this down to a certain program, where the egyptians know what this looks like every day, they got officials know what it looks like every day, and israelis importantly are on board. Remember, if they are actively doing airstrikes in the area of that border thats gonna make it nearly impossible for any aid to get in. One big question right now, katie, will any of these Aid Shipments include fuel, because the gazans officials have said no fuel is coming in yet. The israeli officials have said that so far, they are not allowing fuel to go in there. And so, while medicine, food, water is certainly extremely important, they also need that fuel, not only to run the power plant over there, to run the generators that the hospitals are using, but you know what, the u. N. Aid agency for the gaza strip, they say theyre just a couple of days away from running out of fuel themselves. And so, if this shipment is successful then the goal would be to ultimately open this up and to fuel into other critically needed supplies in the gaza strip. Josh, well get the benefit of them life but its right now which i know that you dont have. But we are looking at some trucks, lets actually say, Petroleum Company on the side. There is more than one that is actually going. Its following an suv that has the u. N. Logo and that you and flood. Do we know, josh, if the United Nations is actually spearheading this humanitarian aid that we are seeing on the convoy right now at the rafah crossing. It hasnt gone in yet but it still on the egyptian side. Still on the egyptian Side Reporter thats right, the admissions has been directly devolved in this. In fact, the u. N. Secretary general Antonio Guterres has been on the ground for the last several days to try to kickstart this. And he has suggested that the u. N. Could be playing a significant role, essentially in monitoring and even inspecting those trucks going into gaza. Because what the israelis have said is they dont want to see any weapons going through that checkpoint under the guise of the humanitarian aid. They want to make sure that what is going in there is not diverted by hamas once it gets into the gaza strip. And so the goal here is for the u. N. To play that active role, and really, Building Confidence for the israelis, for the americans, for the egyptians and others that what is going in there is the right kind of humanitarian aid, and that its going to reach the civilian population of the gaza strip, and not be used instead by hamas to continue to wage a war that is currently fighting with israel. And, josh, and indication, i know that weve spoken earlier in the hour about a possibility of getting some civilians, for nationals, many of those with dual citizens,s trng to cross at the rafah Border Crossings since last week, frankly. An indication that some civilians have been able to cross through the rafah Border Crossing today . Reporter so far, we havent seen it move in that direction. Weve only seen the aid flowing in. Theyre essentially thousands of civilians who are in the gaza strip near that border, trying to get out. So, for them, today will be another day with the hope that this means maybe there will be some progress for them so. One other piece of Breaking News that i want to bring to you. We talked a lot about the u. S. Military moving military in the region, the concerns about a possible expansion of this war. Just in the last few minutes, we have learned that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has paid a visit to a Commando Unit on israels Northern Border, where netanyahu is saying he doesnt yet know whether the militant Group Hezbollah in lebanon is going to get directly involved in this war. But it does say that if hezbollah does decide to get into this war, they are going to wish it was the days of the 2006 war with lebanon, which was devastating for hezbollah. So, basically, netanyahu trying to put hezbollah on notice that they should not consider any involvement in this or israel is going to respond extremely aggressively, and really that speaks to those concerns about a spiraling conflict here that has predicated this move of more u. S. Military resources into the region, katie. Milita so many dueling sourt play. Josh lederman, nbc news Foreign Correspondent, i want to thank you for joining us. Again, always, please stay safe. For our viewers, as we go to break, you are looking at live footage of the rafah Border Crossing were 17 convoy trucks, as a part of aid, are currently at the rafah Border Crossing. Some have crossed over into the border area to be able to go into gaza. It looked like fuel trucks, were gonna see if we can get some confirmation on that, but as you see, there are others that have the United Nations suv waiting to be able to cross to the rafah Border Crossing. Well be right back. Were gonna go to break. 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Yes, its a confusing situation. This case, where she is not divested from her jurisdiction to continue to keep that act in place while the appeal is ongoing, she is doing the smart thing here. Shes being cautious. Shes building a record. She knows, like we know, katie, that at some point, trump is going to violate this gag order. She wants to make sure that when that happens, any sanctions she impose can be upheld. She is proceeding cautiously, and as you say, given plenty of time to hang himself. Now, joyce, lets talk about the charles borough powell, please. You and i will talking off line about how important this is. Lets talk about why these being lawyers, lawyers representing donald trump in the trump campaign, why theyre guilty pleas have such import when it comes to fani williss case. And maybe others. There are two, there were two reasons that you want to have people who are lower down the Food Chain Flipping cooperate. One is so they can testify against the top dog, the person you ultimately hoped to hold responsible. And these cases, certainly, Sydney Powell has been in the room with donald trump, and she can testify in that regard. Chesbrough is a very interesting possibility here. The lawyer who was the architect of the fake electors plan, he acknowledged that it was something the Supreme Court would never approve, but there might be strategic political reasons for deploying the fake elector scheme. Who all did he have conversations with . Likely many of the other lawyers who are good at defendants in this case. If he can testify against the likes of rudy giuliani, or jenna ellis, john eastman, that could be very valuable. And putting pressure on them to flip at the so these are important developments in the Fulton County case. Theres been three pleas so far in Fulton County. The defense attorney, those three defendants, all making hay about the fact that none of their clients blood to the rico counts and this case. Including yesterday when was on my show. What are your thoughts about the fact that they did not plea to a r. I. C. O. Count, but they are still all cooperating witnesses . I wouldnt expect them to plead guilty to the r. I. C. O. Count. The whole point for these early cooperators is that they get very beneficial plea deals. Of course the important thing is Holding Donald trump and his key lieutenants responsible for the r. I. C. O. Conspiracy. Willis is playing the long game here. She drew a lot of criticism for indicting nine people in one indictment. Now were seeing how that strategy plays out. Its something shes done another r. I. C. O. Cases. Give good deals to the first people into cooperate so that you can hold those most accountable, most culpable, accountable for the crimes. Joyce, they got less than 30 seconds. Do you have any reading of the tea leaves on who you might be next . To maybe take a key. We dont have this for the remaining candidates in Fulton County, but any idea of who might come next . Right, there is less pressure now with no trial date set. We think the focus involved in the cockpit county scheme, some of the defendants whose names arent dinner table conversation, are likely to plead now that both Sydney Powell, who was involved there, has, plaid as well as scott hall, the first person to plea. Katie, my pick for the next significantly that well see is jen ellis. One of trumps lawyers. She had a lot of access to trump and other lawyers, she has been public about his failure to help with the pavement of her legal fees, and as this drags on, that natural pressure may encourage her to go ahead and be the next of the lawyers to flip. Yeah, and you know that Coffee County breach of the election equipment, joyce, to your point, scott, hall i think led to the Sydney Powell plea. 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Thats where the floridabased veteran lead nonprofit grew, Project Dynamo, is coming to the rescue. Joining me now is brian stern, the ceo and founder of Project Dynamo. Brian, that flight on sunday from israel to tampa was Project Dynamo 602nd Evacuation Mission since just 2021. Police, let our viewers know about project i know. Project dynamo is a veteran law, donor funded, International Rescue organization. The best way to think about us is that we work with the u. S. Government, when they dont have access or presents, for whatever the reasons. Where were not political whatsoever. We are singular in focus, and just saving lives. Were an entirely donor funded. Our website is d w w dot Project Dynamo dot org. That is where you can go for ask for help. Thats where you can go to give help. These airplanes do not fly themselves. In 25 months, weve rescued just over 6800 people from all over the place. From premature babies that got stuck in the war in ukraine, to just recently 270 people on this airplane. We do two more after that. Were very, very busy. Weve done 602 missions in 25 months. That is pretty remarkable. Yeah, brian, i apologize, i dont have much time left to ask a lot, and i would really look to have you come back. I do want to say, there were plans for israel to launch a ground offensive. Talk about the logistics that are going to go into if that happens. How will that affect your ability to get americans and others out of israel . I mean, obviously, a kinetic war changes things dramatically. We operated for almost two years in ukraine on the front lines and beyond. Weve broken people out of jail from russian intelligence. Its another variable, a significant variable that complicates operations. To say that its a deal breaker, that is not accurate. Were still doing operations in afghanistan. Years after the taliban took control. Where americans are still stuck there. Its just another thing, if you will, to deal with. The bigges had as funding. Were mostly volunteers, and we have these things, they cost money, sadly. We need public support. With public support, we can deal with a ground offensive, issues and all the other issues that come with that. We can deal with us, provided the funding holds up. My hat off to you, brian, with the ceo of Project Dynamo for their heroism, and the courage to bring americans home. I or jeweler viewers to go and check out the website for Project Dynamo. Brian, thank you for being here. Thank you very much. I want to thank all of you for joining me this morning. Ill be back next saturday and sunday at 8 am eastern. Remember, you can keep up with us during the week by following at Katie Phang Show it is surround, take, talk an x, formerly known as twitter. Stay tuned, The Sunday Show with Jonathan Kaye part is coming up next. Coming up next nice footwork. 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