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voting rights legislation. senator warnock's whose state was at the center of calls by trump was on the floor. watch. >> we are witnessing right now a massive and unabashed assault on voting rights unlike anything we have ever seen since the jim crow era. this is jim crow in new clothes. since the january election, some 250 voter suppression bills have been introduced by state legislatures across the country from georgia to arizona, from new hampshire to florida. using the big lie of voter fraud as a pretext for voter suppression. the same big lie that led to a violent insurrection on this very capitol. the day after my election. make no mistake. this is democracy in reverse. rather than voters being able to pick the politicians, the politicians are trying to cherry pick their voters. i say this cannot stand. the legislation the senator is promoting there takes direct aim at institutional barriers to voting and create national standards for voter registration. according to democrats a good thing you would think for any party or any politician who's interested in withining fair and square by making the case and winning the most votes but when you get desperate that you might again to think maybe the race will go better for me if voters can't vote, if they stay home. the cherry picking of voters that the senator was talking about appears to be the position of today's republican party. the ap reports, quote, the bill has little chance to pass without changes to rules that currently allow republicans to block the legislation. but "the new york times" reporting this week that the gop firewall against voting rights are under siege. they're waging the most consequential political struggle over access to the ballot seasons the civil rights era. it is engaging democrats in washington and voting rights activists in states. some with senators to play pivotal roles. the dam breaking moment on the horizon over another gop cam pane is where we start with some of the favorite reporters and friends. former republican congressman jolly of florida is joining us and former maryland congressman donna edwards. i want to start with you, david, and you, donna, because you have run for office and i don't think we spend enough time talking about how antithetical it is to suppress the right to weigh in on whether they pick you. >> i think that what's happening here is that as senator warnock artfully pointed out republicans aren't trying to convince their voters about their agenda or policy prescriptions. they've chosen instead to say we want to restrict the vote and we want to choose our voters so that we can win. and i think that this is really unfortunate, especially given the history of the voting rights act and what we see across the country was over 250 bills out there to restrict voting rights to say we want to -- we don't want to decide, like, what our agenda is. we want to decide who our voters are. i think at the end of the day this is dangerous territory for republicans to travel on. incumbents want to choose the voters but that's not the way a democracy should work. >> david, there's an extra burden on people who are once part of what has really become an anti-democratic force, the modern republican party. there is no widespread systematic voter fraud that any commissions that have been erected over the past generation have identified. >> sure. >> there is only a republican campaign to cheat. talk about what this says about this republican party. >> look. today's republican party is interested in having fewer voters turn out because the consensus of policy in the country and the demographics are getting away from republicans. they made a decision to double down on what is a very exclusive form of ideology and coalition building so they need fewer voters to vote. but i would offer a word of caution. it is this. if this debate is had and if this legislation moves through the congress, is done with -- on the grounds of election security and who sets the election laws, republicans will win this jurisdictionally because states have the right to set election laws. what states do not have the right to do is abridge the protections of the 15th amendment. what democrats must do and what the country must realize in this moment is this is a modern civil rights calling. this is a voting rights matter for communities of color and if the states are abridging that liberty then democrats and the pro democracy movement will win this debate. and so, i think what the house has done is some argue it's important. i think there's jurisdictional flaws, the argument that congress is making. but if congress makes the case that states particularly since losing the supreme court ruling that has limited access of communities of color, if this is a modern civil rights debate they win and republicans lose this. >> let me just press you, david, on this notion. republicans who control the state legislatures and most of the place where is the laws have been introduced will win. election security is as big of a fraud as donald trump's claims about the results of the november election. everyone that's looked at this including former attorney general bill barr who was all too eager to go and pursue any probable instance of voter fraud couldn't find any so we should just be super blunt about what this is. this is voter suppression disguised as election security. the elections don't need more security. >> that is exactly right. republicans want fewer nontrump republicans out. republicans in states across the country -- >> right. >> trying to close off primaries so that they can keep nontrump republicans from emerging as viable but the critical thing and this is an example. when you see the crazy laws like you can't hand water out at a polling place, prove that has an impact on communities of color. when you close off access to drop boxes you have to prove that has an impact on communities of color. otherwise jurisdictionally the states are allowed to do that and wrong and based on a big lie but they'll get away with it and why in this moment this has to be a serious legislative predicate to be laid that this is in response to not just what happens right now but 2013 and the invalidation of the supreme court. it's been amended three times since and should be a 2021 voting rights amendment that passes through the congress, signed by president biden and would give the federal courts a reason to invalidate the state measures you are now seeing. >> eddie, i wish that david was in that body right now. let me put up what these voter suppression laws disguised as election security would do. many of them put restrictions on mail-in voting. i remember when republicans relied on mail-in voting. this is a new republican behavior to cleave out mail-in voting feeling like they lose there, too. create barriers for that non in-person voting. expand voter roll purges. this is people that moved and very, very few instances people that died. they don't vote any way but puts fear in the mind and goes in the category of sowing distrust in election results. what republicans don't like if we're blunt people allowed to register on same day. this really hurts people who are transient, college students who not to vote republican. they also want to implement stricter voter i.d. laws. there is a pretty marketable argument, they say -- i go to blockbuster and why not to vote? they don't have driver's licenses or i.d.s so there's no fair read of the moves as other than voter suppressions of the voters that republicans have given up on. >> absolutely. i think this is why the senator warnock and others pairing hr-1 with the john lewis voting rights act and seen as one of the same or at least two pieces of the puzzle to address what david laid out. we have to -- the congress has to respond to the gutting of the civil rights act. but let's be very clear. what we're witnessing here is an extension of january 6th, the suspect call. folks storming the capitol, leaving feces. threatening the lives of folk in the idea the election stolen by those people who lived in atlanta, who lived in philadelphia, who lived in milwaukee? we know what they were doing. right? we know what they were arguing for. that this country must be a country that remain white in the vein of old europe and this is an extension of that. we don't have to sack the capitol but pass laws to disenenfranchise the rights of those that should be grateful. it's an extension of the seditionist, of the insurrection. it is undemocratic at the core. >> let me show what stacey abrams had to say about this last night about the importance of not abandoning this story and these efforts by republicans. >> politics is about self preservation and creating the world you want to see. if we don't elect people who see us in that world then we should not be surprised that they try to draw us out of the narrative. that's why constant attention and agitation is so necessary, because there isn't this thing where it's just about us but it is about everyone and people have different needs, wants, notions of power. agitation is how we make certain that our needs get included in this larger narrative. >> i love the wordageation there. it is a natural extension of good trouble and i wonder what you make of her role of just keeping this front and center. >> she is right to do that. after all, look at what is happening in her own home state of georgia where if you don't keep up the agitation no one hears it. the rules are changed and then we're behind the eight ball once again. the fact of the matter is that still over three quarters of the congress are white men. and so, it's not as though the rules have changed so much that it allows for a more expansive view of who represents us in the congress. looking at what the rules changes would be under hr-1 it is all about like opening up democracy and if republicans are going to stand against opening up democracy we should continue to agitate, advocate and communicate in a way that allows us to change the rules so that more of us not fewer of us have the ability to participate and the outside groups have to keep this up because otherwise it will slip to another check mark or hash tag. >> but, david, isn't it even about chang that unsettles a ruling class and in this country tragically a whole lot of white people? this is about not going in the other direction. this isn't about scary change and new people making -- this is about not rolling back to a more oppressive way with access to the ballot. stacey abrams also introduced a pressure campaign against companies in her state but obviously nationwide. this is from "new york times," they, companies, peppering us with martin luther king quotes and now that blacks' future is in jeopardy they're silent. we're using digital ads, bill boards, direct action. we are serious. this is urgent. i spent about 15 minutes in pr so i don't have a lot of experience but i would tell a company to run away from voter suppression laws. this is a terrible look whether it's coca-cola or airline seats or cell phone coverage. >> you have seen corporate responsibility moves on social issues in last ten years, boycotts in the state of north carolina. the ncaa tournament moved out of the state over the gender exclusion policies. corporate america has a responsibility in this fight and it does so because this is a modern civil rights moment. this is the civil rights issue of this time. there's a premise that democrats fight for right now and that's that voting should be as easy and accessible as it can be secure. that is a universal principle that we can all agree on. but if it's a fight over election security, again, it is the right fight but it is in the wrong ring. they're going to lose this on jurisdictional grounds. what legislators and corporate america need to ring the alarm on is that since the 2013 envalidation of the voting rights act we have seen thousands of voting booths closed, for communities of color. we have seen voting rolls purged that impacted communities of color and now a disparate impact by the state law changes on communities of color. this is a white verse black america issue. not a republican verse democratic issue and if you frame this as a civil rights issue on the side of civil rights or not there is no defense republicans will have and the silence of corporate america in that moment is damning on them. this is a civil rights issue. full stop. corporate america has a responsibility to make their voices heard and to use the power of the purses to influence states that are going in the wrong direction on the civil rights issue. >> eddie, i think you're right and i think what senator warnock's really most powerful point was is tying the voting rights -- suppression laws to voting rights and back to the insurrection. i want to show you something that senator menendez said on the senate floor about none other than ron johnson who seems to be the spokesman for this modern republican party saying the ugly things out loud which in some ways is use. . let's watch. >> look. i get no one likes to be called racist but sometimes there's just no other way to describe the use of tropes that threaten black lives by stoking white fear of african-americans and black men in particular. one of our colleagues to cast those who attack the capitol as harmless patriots while stroking fear of black americans is like rubbing salt in an open wound. everybody in this body should know that when you perpetuate such racist tropes you contribute to a culture that gives people permission to treat black americans as suspicious and their lives as expendable. we are supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard. we're supposed to advance america's long march towards a more perfect union, not coddle those who take us backwards. we are supposed to stand up for the truth. >> it is a remarkable statement about the reality of ron johnson and today's republican party that their current position and if they have distanced them from ron johnson i haven't heard them do so. the current position is they weren't scared of the inrecollectionists because they looked like them but had that been a black lives matter protest that turned into an insurrection which it never -- never turned violent in the capitol, they would have been very afraid. what is the danger and/or advantage of having some of that racism out in the open? >> it forces the choice. we don't have dog whistles. folks are blowing fog horns. it is clear. i was listening to that thinking, damn, this is 2021. i'm sitting here listening to and thinking about the voter suppression tactics and what they're trying to do across 43 states and thinking to myself, i'll be damned. thinking about all those bodies that line the mississippi river. i'm thinking about those -- and senator warnock listed some of the dead in the name of this. my daddy couldn't vote in mississippi. my father couldn't vote and here we are right now in this moment having this damn debate. right? so it seems to me and as i said it yesterday the choice is clear. the choice is clear. and senator warnock said it's whether or not the senate supports democracy. we are right here once again. we have to finally decide what kind of country we're going to be. and i'm tired of my generation and the future generation having to bear the brunt of this damn contradiction. 2021. here we are. >> unbelievable. >> right here today. >> unbelievable. that's why we started with senator warnock and all of you. thank you so much. thank you for starting us off. don't miss more of senator warnock tonight. he is my colleague rachel maddow's guest at 9:00 p.m. eastern. the suspect in the shooting of eight people in atlanta, six of whom are asian women, says the actions not rishlly motivated but the killing sparked fear and alarm. president biden vows that russia's leader will pay a price for trying to influence an outcome of the 2020 election. we'll ask what that will look like. plus vaccinations a day is picking up. will it be enough to stop the variants spreading through the country threatening a possible additional surge? all those stories and more when we continue after a quick break. ♪ ♪ we made usaa insurance for veterans like martin. when a hailstorm hit, he needed his insurance to get it done right, right away. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa when you buy this plant at walmart, they can buy more plants from metrolina greenhouses so abe and art can grow more plants. so they can hire vilma... and wendy... and me. so, more people can go to work. so, more days can start with kisses. when you buy this plant at walmart. ♪♪ we're following developments in that deadly shooting in atlanta. eight people were shot at three day spas yesterday. six of eight victims asian women. the suspect 21-year-old robert aaron long was charged with murder and assault in the shootings. long told investigators he had a sexual addiction and saw the businesses as a temptation he needed to eliminate. law enforcement officials said they haven't determined a motive of the crimes. the community has seen anti-asian hate over the last year. atlanta's mayor said whatever fueled the killings they're a tragedy. >> obviously whatever the motivation was for this guy we know that many of the victims, the majority of the victims, were asian. we also know that this is an issue happening across the country. it is unacceptable. it is hateful. and it has to stop. >> just hours before the shooting research released from the group stop aapi hate showed nearly 3,800 attacks and threats most directed at women reported since the pandemic began. it is something president biden addressed earlier this afternoon saying the rise in hate crimes against asian-americans is troubling and will wait for the invest before milwaukeeing a connection to the shooter's motivation. lets's bring in two guests. kurt, i want to read some of your new op-ed. if you look like me you have almost certainly been told to go back to china by a white person some opponent in your life. i think i have been told that so many times that i have become numb to it. what does it say about this country that in the year 2021 a person can become so conditioned to outward displays of racism that he stops reacting to it? what does it say in 2021 you can become numb? >> it says that for all the progress that our society has made we still have work to do. i think back to the 1800s when in the california state supreme court they ruled that a testimony from chinese immigrants would not be allowed because they were inferior to white people and that was 1857 i think when that decision came down. and here we are all these years later and that mentality is so corrosive and prevalent in the republican party and i just think back to when i was younger and have kids taunt me and make fun of the shape of my eyes and use phrases at me and i never could have imagined then that grown adults, elected officials, leaders would have part of their orthodoxy using taunts as a foundational piece of what they try to represent and how they try to get votes and power. here we are now in 2021 where people who like me, the asian-american community is under siege right now and whether or not the motivations of this lunatic in georgia, whatever is uncovered there, there's still an escalating number of violent crimes happening and those crimes are fueled by the overt racist rhetoric by the republican party. yesterday the leader of the republican party donald trump called into a capability news network and used the term china virus. this is still a problem and the only way to deal with it is to call out those who are in power in a position to have influence and impact to call about when they're silent when those things happen, to call them out when they don't do anything, bury the heads in the sand because the body count will pile up and more people like me will continue to be harassed, assaulted and injured. >> clint, pick up on that. since january 6 we have had hours of conversations about donald trump's role in inciting the insurrection but he is calling the coronavirus pandemic kung flu and the china virus more than a year now. what role does that have in terms of a permission structure for violence and hate against asian-americans? >> it is a confluence of rhetoric. the demonization of nonwhite populations. whether it is asian-americans, african-americans, even towards women to a degree. we can look back at the signaling to gretchen whitmer in michigan. and also the incitement of violence. violent words leads to more violence and the more reach someone has in terms of speech the more others are enticed to follow through. many of the people arrested january 6th have already said that they thought they should do that because of the president. his words, rhetoric and what the party embraced leads to that. senator johnson, he continues much of that rhetoric and that will lead to more confrontation. the other part is when we look at the stats across the board, in atlanta yesterday why do we immediately raise this question? we saw a white shooter tar get nonwhites and this is a persistent pattern over four years and something i'm worried about going into the summertime. the availability of targets will increase and why we have not seen i think the violent attacks of 2018 and 2019, everything up to the targeting of a walmart based on the largely hispanic-americans being there in el paso, we have not had mass gatherings and that picture will change. >> i was listening to clint describe the threat and the people who endanger all of us but you have talked about feeling you have a target on your back. can you give voice to the fear? >> yeah. it's such an odd sensation. i know it's one that many communities of color have been living with for a long time but for me personally to live where i worry going out, grocery shopping, filling up the gas tank, picking up takeout at a restaurant, i'm much more aware of the surroundings because where asian-americans are attacked in public on streets, riding mass transit, at restaurants. just doing every day things that most of the time all of us take for granted and things that you shouldn't have to worry about living in an open and free society. it is such a discomforting -- almost like you step outside of yourself and not able to enjoy being in that moment, being in a moment of just ease or comfort. and instead you're stressed out because you're thinking about what's going on around you and trying to get inside other people's heads of what their intentions might be. we don't have the luxury of letting our guard down. and especially again as political officials continue to use charged rhetoric to excite violence and incite violence. this is something that people weigh in and people of color say welcome to our world, i just want to be very clear. racism isn't asian-americans isn't new. our country has a very dark, dark relationship when it comes to race relations with all types of groups including asian-americans. i think that the difference now is for the first time now the asian-american community is finding their voice and stride and picking up on the lessons learned from tremendous successful advocacies by black lives matter and applying that to what we're going through and amplifying our voices and stories and reach and we are done being the minority and playing into the stereotypes designed by white people. we are finding our voice and we will use it and not going to stand by and let this happen without fighting back. >> clint, i just keep thinking of that domestic terror alert warning that we got shortly after the insurrection warning us until i think the end of april we would be living under a heightened threat. we have a combination of those angry about both the election result because of donald trump's big lie and the covid restrictions. i wonder if you can talk about that and the targeting of asian-americans. >> what we are look the at trying to sort out today with this attack in atlanta, was it based on online conspiracies or a play-up? just found out about the nashville bombing. and then the militia groups that overlap in many ways to white supremacist views so when you bring all those together in a heated environment with conspiracies of vaccines, covid, mask, which are bringing confrontations into government, where it tends to spill out is targeting a combination of personal and group grievances and what we'll find i think with this individual yesterday is a personal grievance and where was he targeting? nonwhites. that was part of going after, women. and so when you look at the confluence in the online space we just saw the director of national intelligence release a report. ten years ago it would have been isis and international terrorism. today is racially motivated groups being primarily one of the main drivers, militia groups right there and maybe execute mass casualty attacks. these are fellow americans we're talking about now and how we unwind that without the help of all political leaders coming together. >> that might be the most important point. we don't have all political leaders coming together to fight this terror threat the way we did with the other threats. it is an important point to end on. kurt, clint, thank you both so much for your expertise. in the next hour, we'll speak with olivia munn who's outspoken about the rise of anti-american violence and looking forward to that. the big lie is percolating with republicans in this country with gop lawmakers mostly silent on the sidelines. we'll ask a democratic senator how that's all playing out. 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>> i'm proud that chairman adam schiff and those on the intelligence commit tee wrote into law the agencies to issue this report because now everyone can see what i was excited about and the fact is that they were so comfortable using people like nunes that a known russian asset sent information to devon nunes at the intelligence committee, we had the package receipt and what prompted that appearance on your show was that i questioned him during a hearing, an open hearing, about what was in the box. when he had received, the same information presumably that ron johnson trying to spread around using the position in the senate as the chairman at that time of the homeland security committee. so it's extraordinary that russia's strategy was to spread disinformation using american media organizations like fox and oan but even more alarmingly senior members of the u.s. senate and house in an effort to laurnder the disinformation in a way that the media might find credible. luckily the media i think most of it and the rest of us knew what was up and called foul but it's an extraordinary statement now the republican party lost its way that they would somehow talk themselves into becoming and this is a term of art useful idiots for the kremlin, vladimir putin. and rudy giuliani. all of these people were more than willing to do the bidding of a russian dictator to try to win an american election. it is breath taking. >> just listening to you describe it, it's clear why russia did what they did. what is not clear to me is why are republicans so brazenly pushing russia's national security at the expense of our own? >> i think we have seen example after example of how this cult of personality of donald trump led them astray. there are a few who know right from wrong. all my local republicans, they understand what's right and wrong about this? it is the guys here in the congress who are willing to set aside the electoral college because they don't want to admit who won the election, overlook a violent attack on the capitol, the assault on capitol police officers, the murder of one to just paper it over for a political advantage, overlook the pandemic and refuse to wear masks and now work with vladimir putin and it sounds like something that's an exaggeration except it's in black and white in the national intelligence council report that you're quoting from assessed with high confidence from the professionals in the ic and this report was written around the last administration so strongly do these professionals feel about this that they were willing to write it down and last point. let's remember that people like bill barr were out there lying about the threat that china posed and downplaying the russia threat and people came up to the hill and did the best to kick up the dirt to hide what was going on. let's remember that people have been like john ratcliffe, the national intelligence director got cute how china is the cuter threat. i suppose in general when we were talking about the election and those people should be held accountable because they were actively disguising this russian plot to use american officials and media outlets to do their bidding and what is remarkable is they found willing partners in the republican party. >> i want to ask you about another odni report, this about the domestic violence terrorism threat. newer socio political developments such adds narratives of fraud in the election, the impact of the violent breach of the u.s. capitol, conditions relatted to the covid-19 pandemic and conspiracy theories promoting violence will almost certainly spur an extremist to try to engage in violence this year. the intelligence community assesses that several factors could increase the likelihood of extremist attacks in 2021 and beyond including support of persons in the united states who or abroad, growing perceptions of government overreach. and high profile attacks spurring follow-on attacks. this reads very much like the threats that our country faced decades ago after 9/11. and i wonder how you deal with it as a single party trying to confront it without the republicans as partners. >> right. remember what happened after 9/11. foreign terrorists attacks the united states and the president you worked for went to a mosque saying the enemy is not muslim americans. he calmed those tensions. whatever difference is with president trump that's a proud moment for him and your party. what is happening in this case is the rise of white supremacy and violent extremism among the fellow citizens. it is incited by the former president of the united states and enablers up here on the hill and told a lie and the lies about the pandemic and the hysteria they whipped up about china is why you have that heartbreaking testimony from our friend kurt in the previous segment and seen 3,800 hate crimes against asian-americans in the pandemic. we have had an attack on the u.s. capitol. my goodness, what more evidence do we need that we have a problem with white supremacy and vie lentz extremism here in the united states? we need to act. >> i want to put you on the spot here. i think that you're the perfect person to sort of flesh out how we move forward with all of these -- the connective connect tissue between everything we've talked about this hour is rolling back voting rights, hate crimes against asian-americans and now making ie alliances with america's adversaries, domestic and foreign. it's something that all americans wonder what happens when you vote for a republican who voted to overturn the elections. maybe we'll talk about that another time and, because it's a stunning picture you paint. >> i think you move around the republicans who have clearly lost their way. what i give the president great credit for is reaching his hand out to people in republican led states and parts of the country who supported the former president and said, i'm going to help you too during this difficult time. the american rescue plan will help hundreds of millions of american families and it will end the pandemic and it creates an opportunity for those folks alienated from their government and led astray by a demagogue and dangerous people to look at a government who might in this case have their best interests in mind, addressing their frustrations not trying to exploit them for political gain but we have to hold accountable the people here in washington who offer nothing but distortions and lies. the strategy as i understand it of the republican party right now is to pass a bunch of racist voting laws to reenact a jim crow system to win in places like georgia again. is that really what the republicans stand for now? 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>> i do. it's 5:00 in the east where here on planet earth, russian disinformation poured into a toxic politics has consequences. it has been a long, long, long time since we've lived on planet earth when it comes to having an american president who sees russia's hostility for what they are. the former guy sided with putin over american intelligence agencies, refused to accept reporting about bounies placed on the heads of american soldiers and at every turn refused to utter a single word of disapproval for russia's thug leader. yesterday's reports lay bear to the tight alignment between russian intelligence operatives and trump and his allies. quote, a key element of moscow strategy this election cycle was its use of people linked to russian intelligence to launder narratives including misleading or unsubstantiated claims against president biden by some officials, some of whom were close to former president trump and his administration. who on earth could they be talking about? >> he did get millions from a corrupt kremlin link, ukrainian and oil and gas company, now hunter has zero experience in all of this. >> $4.2 million in about 30 months, about $140,000 month a month. it's a good gig if you have the right last name. >> he has some questions he needs to answer as to what was he doing talking to the ukraine leadership at the time when his son has a contract. >> this is what they call, people, evidence. not lies, evidence. and there's plenty of it that biden, his son and his brother had a 30-year-long scam to make money, millions selling his public office, senator first, vice president second. ukraine just a tip of the iceberg. >> it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. the fact their words echo russian disinformation to hurt joe biden established beyond any doubt by the reports yesterday, the only question is witting or unwitting acts. the term idiot can be slapped on them and was by senator maloneny last hour. remember maria yovanovitch who trump forced out of her post? >> i was shocked that i would hear such a phone call that president trump would say i was bad news to another world leader and i would be going through some things. it was a terrible moment. a person who saw me actually reading the transcript said that the color drained from my face. >> the harmful results of a smear campaign. it was operationalized by donald trump who had rudy giuliani in his ear. the campaign all the more significant in the wake of what the report lays out, quote, a network of ukraine-linked individuals took steps throughout the election cycle to damage u.s. ties to ukraine. denigrate president biden and his candidacy. that sick feeling in your stomach isn't lunch, it's the reality that putin got away with more than anyone understands so. we will spend years unpacking to what extent trump may have cooperated. new reports of trump's shared russian objectives are where we start this hour. pete struck is here, also joining us international affairs michael mcfaulsback. whenever i listen to marie yovanovitch. i have to start with you ambassador mccall, there was so much carnage to a russian disinformation campaign run by trump and his allies. >> you're right. i'm glad you remembered her because she was just trying to serve america's national interest in a nonpartisan way and she was thrown under the bus by her own trump administration. but elections have consequences we have a new leader, that's good for ambassador yovanovitch and the american people. i'm pleased they're publishing this information in the way they are, because you and i have talked about these things, we've talked about these things for years. but i think it's really important for the american people to understand the incredible, multifacetted campaign that vladimir putin launched to try to help mr. trump so we don't fall down this rabbit hole again. >> pete strzok, you were at the fbi when the fbi and andrew mccabe asked questions and mike and his colleagues reported on this, broke the story in "the new york times" that there were credible questions whether donald trump was wittingly or unwittingly an agent for vladimir putin. you read the reports and it's clear that there's something there, isn't it? >> i think it absolutely is. as ambassador mcfaul said it's braceingly refreshing to see a report coming out of a competent and open director of national intelligence that sets forth the high confidence conclusions of the intelligence community that this absolutely was not only a second effort by the government of russia to try to elect president trump. but the things we were concerned about in 2016, the things the fbi and intelligence community continued to be concerned about through 2020 were real. things will continue to come out. the nature of intelligence work is that sources and networks are protected, you have to keep information out of the public eye because you have people's lives at risks or techniques you can't risk. but as time goes on risks change and while it's not surprising we should expect to see a trickle of things of hard data which go to back up the level of enormous concern that we had throughout 2015, '16 and up to the current date. >> mike schmidt we found reporting that you and your colleagues did in october in the runup to the election. you reported this, the intelligence agencies warned the white house late last year that russian intelligence officers were using president trump's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, as a conduit for disinformation aimed at undermining president biden's presidential run. the warning, the second former official said was prompted by a meeting on december 5th between rudy giuliani and andrii derkach. what happened when the intelligence agencies warned the white house late last year that russian intelligence officers were using rudy giuliani as a conduit for disinformation? what did they do? >> they didn't do anything. and if anything, they embraced this narrative more and more. and they continued to push it. it didn't mean anything to them. the intelligence community did not mean anything to the president. it was not going to lead him to stop rudy giuliani from what he was doing. if you look at this document yesterday, you have to sort of see it. i see it as the third part of this trilogy on trump and russia. this is sort of coming with the mueller report, you have the impeachment, the documents that come out there which show how willing the president was to use a foreign power to undermine a candidate, essentially accelerating russian disinformation, and then this document which shows just how far the russian reach got into the president's orbit. directly to his lawyer, who was out there and pushing this. but putting that all aside, i think the -- the thing that sort of stood out to me is that while the russian efforts were damaging, it was nothing compared to what the president himself did. and what he did with his own megaphone, and just the immense power that that had to direct his base to question the election and the democracy the way they have. >> well, ambassador mcfaul, pick up on that. because what trump did domestically was adapt russian disinformation tactics and as mike schmidt is saying, use the singular power of the megaphone of an american president to carry out disinformation. it does not have a tradition in american politics. it's tradition, its roots are russian. >> well, you're right about that. they are russian, and obviously amplification matters more than the original disinformation. although it's important to underscore when you read the report, realize how clever they were. there was another operation. this sunt stealing emails like we saw in 2016, this was directly reaching out to somebody known to be close to the president, rudy giuliani, feeding misinformation. he brought a camera crew with him, remember, and did a tv special. so it is directly russian disinformation then amplified first and foremost by the president but then also by mr. giuliani and others around him. it is scary to me that there was not a greater effort to expose this in real time. we know why politically, they were politicizing the information, mike just said they were briefed about it. i would like to know to what extend mr. giuliani was briefed by the fbi about these connections, maybe that will come later. but this is a national security issue we have to stop treating this as partisan politics and everything is okay in the name of winning elections. because we're going to encounter this from russia, china, and iran time and time again moving forward. >> and pete strzok when you look at who was echoing their messages and who was aligned with the russian operation they were familiar characters. they are devin nunes who has been at the intersection of russian interference and trump's unwillingness to do anything about it. they are ron johnson who was known to pressure chris wray for the final six months for dirt on hunter biden. the corruption was carried out. the corruption of intelligence and the accomplices that trump had are still inside the government. what do you do about that? >> i don't know that's what concerns me the most. we are seeing placement of party ahead of country, in some cases. i have worked in five presidential administrations the russians, chinese are always going to aggressively conduct intelligence operations. but what i never saw in my life, expected to see in my life is people in the u.s., u.s. politicians having been told they were receiving information from the government of russia, russian disinformation as a result of a russian intelligence operation nevertheless took that information with reason to believe that's where it came from and didn't care. used that to advance their political narrative, placing it ahead of the national security of the united states. it's staggering to me and still staggering to me. that issue hasn't gone away and that concerns me much more than what the chinese and russians are doing because it's going to go on. but i haven't seen this abdication of patriotism before in my life. >> the abdication of patriotism is something, mike, your book is titled "donald trump versus the united states" the odni report tells a story of someone versus the united states but they are in bed with known russian agents and they're named in this report. konstantin kilimnik comes up, andrii derkach who we talked about, met with ron johnson, passed things to his office, was photographed there with rudy giuliani. if you can just speak to how successful not just the russians were, but donald trump was in taking and welcoming their political support. >> the president was completely unshackled in those last two years of his administration, and that perfectly positioned him to use people like giuliani in these efforts. and to basically try and attack the american system from within. i know that that sounds, you know -- that's an outlandish thing to say, but basically that's what was going on. it just shows the extreme reach of this, and the sort of accelerant that the president provided for the russian efforts. and no -- as pete was saying, it's like you couldn't imagine another president doing what trump did with the stuff. and the other thing was is that -- i'm sure there's a lot of things that went on in secret that we don't know about, but a lot of this was done out in open, through the messaging. rudy giuliani was very open about what he was doing. he was not trying to hide it. and there's a brazenness to that that, you know, still shocks me. >>, you know, in speaking about it in the open, ambassador mcfaul what president biden does in the interview this morning with george stephanopoulos, he said to putin i see you in the open, i know you have no soul and at least we understand each other. it's a dramatic departure from president trump who i remember being on with my colleague, joe scarborough he says putin kills people. but trump's sub serve yans to putin became the hallmark. can you speak to the substance of what the change in leadership and power means to the u.s./russia relationship. >> it's fundamental. i was at the last meeting the vice president had with prime minister putin in 2011. back then as he said in his interview yesterday he knows who putin is, he's been briefed with him, about him, met with him. and remember president biden has a deep, deep set of relationships with countries around the region, too. ukraine, georgia, eastern europe, mall doe va, i travelled there with the vice president. he knows, a, the situation very well unlike the previous president. but b, of course, thank goodness we're not having our own president of the united states playing the what aboutism game that you just described. what about our killing. that's a classic putin tactic. i've been in meetings with putin many times and that's what he does. tragically we had a president who did it. his administration didn't always do it. that was a strange situation we had as well where the top people at the white house had one russia policy, the president, the rest of his administration had a different one. today we have one policy led by president biden and it's going to be radically different as we learned yesterday and i think we will see it unfold as the president promised. there are going to be consequences for what they did. that should be coming shortly. >> to your point ambassador, i remember john bolton saying to me once, i said to him, how with your views on putin can you work for him? he said, if you have trump, you should be glad i'm there. i guess all of that is mercifully history. thank you all so much for starting us off this hour. when we return, police in georgia say it's too soon to know whether the horrific massacre at three atlanta area spas was a hate crime but it comes amid an increase in hate crimes against asian-americans. olivia munn joins us next. plus texas republicans are doing just about everything they can do to make it harder for people to vote. and surprise, their efforts are aimed squarely at democrats in the cities turning blue. as more states open coronavirus vaccinations to all adults there's a worrying trend emerging. cases are on the rise in a couple of hot spots. 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>> i think there is a huge disconnect because culturally for asian-americans we are told to be quiet, to not ruffle any feathers, to not be disruptive. so there's a lot of underreporting happening. also there's under reporting because there's a huge language barrier. there are people that may want to go to police and talk about something that has happened to them, but there's no one there that speaks their language. so it becomes a moot point for them. so there's a lot of underreporting that's happening, so it's really hard for people to understand really what is happening to our people. right now we're seeing it happening, we're all struggling with it. there is like just today there have been questions about the shooter's mental health. and, you know, the truth is, right now there is a mental health crisis with asian-americans. we are being targeted. wir we are living in a country that is attacking us for simply being us. we really don't know what we have to do to get help. we need more people to care about us, we need people to amplify it, we need the media to cover it, we need social media to denounce this stuff that's happening to us. it's so important that we are heard because we have been so invisible for so long. >> and you're right. some of that is on us. we've been covering the pandemic for a year and i think it's just come to my attention what a crisis this is. so thank you for helping to bring attention to that. and i want to -- this is uncomfortable to watch, but i want to just show our viewers what some of these victims have experienced. let's watch. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> they started hurling racial insults. they started calling me [bleep], [bleep], chinese virus. >> a gentleman approached me and started yelling racial slurs at me, you dirty chinese, you damn chinese, this is you, you dirty chinese, he kept saying it over and over again. >> call chinese virus, don't talk to him. you're going to get sick. >> he yelled at me on the train and said you people brought this virus here. >> we've heard some reports even before schools went fully remote that you had elementary kids telling others i don't want to play with that kid because he's chinese. >> i don't want to play with that kid. olivia, do these stories sound like things you have heard from within the asian-american community? >> yes. at alarming rates. we hear about it all the time. my mother texts me that she's afraid to go outside. and i -- all of my friends, their families, they're afraid to go out. and what's really scary is that for the longest time they were -- all these vicious attacks were targeting the elderly in our community. and then you see what happened in atlanta, and there's this other vulnerable group, these asian women that are being attacked. and it's just -- it's a heart breaking situation for us because we all went through the pandemic. the whole world, we all experienced the same thing. but within that, there was this other pandemic, this -- that happened against our people. we are being attacked and it's because leaders have decided to not use the scientific name for the virus and instead call it the kung flu or the china virus and put a target on our back. it can't be open season for asians right now. we need help. we need so much help. everyone saw that and heard our president targeting asians by using that rhetoric. and we were all in the pandemic and no one really knew what was going to happen. when he was saying that, it was hard for me, it was hard for my family, but we had no idea that it would play out like this. also, when you think about how hard the pandemic has been for people, there's a lot of frustration. what we know with human nature, a lot of times people are looking for someone or something to blame, and this is an easy scapegoat for a lot of people's frustrations for what has happened over the past year. >> and olivia, i think you put all the pieces together from the beginning, the former president called it the kung flu and the china virus, up till last night on fox news, he did it again. so that hasn't stopped. i wonder what you think the best antidote is, he still has a big following and megaphone. what do you need from elected officials to push back against that smear? >> we need our elected officials to speak up about this and denounce these horrible hate crimes against the asian community. we need people to use their platforms and megaphones to say how wrong this is. we need our pain to be seen. >>o live olivia munn you've brought a lot of attention to this, including ours. thank you for spending time with us. please come back. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. when we come back, everything bigger in texas, including the republicans' all out assault on voting rights there. that story when "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. tinues after k break. don't go anywhere. good morning, mr. sun. good morning, blair. 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kayak searches hundreds of travel sites for flights with no change fees. so you can book a great deal now, and always change later. kayak. search one and done. if you smell gas, you're too close. leave the structure, call 911, keep people away, and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. if you see wires down, treat them all as if they're hot and energized. stay away from any downed wire, call 911, and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. as the u.s. senate gets ready to debate the for the people act, the most expansive voting rights legislation since the civil rights era, republicans across this country are attempting to pass waves of antivoting measures motivated by the big lie, that big lie that there was rampant voter fraud in the 2020 election, we know there was none. one state that has led the way in peddling the lie is texas where more than two dozen gop sponsored bills are under consideration, everything from tightening voter id laws to limiting early voting is up for legislation. the legislation is finding support from the top of the government, after governor abbott declared election security a top priority. let's bring in to our conversation matthew dowd and eugene daniels. and we are thrilled to get to announce here on this show that eugene is now part of the msnbc family as a political contributor here. welcome and thank you. and just talk about these sort of plates pushing against each other, republicans not rooted in fact, not rooted in anything that the trump administration or the trump justice department could find as any evidence of widespread voter fraud but moving ahead and changing laws and taking away access to the right to vote, built on the lie. >> exactly. and in texas, like you talked about, it feels pretty clear the working on fixing a problem that doesn't actually exist. governor abbott himself said he himself is not aware of any fraud that occurred in texas to change the elections that happened, i want to read his quote because it's telling, right now i don't know how many or if any elections in the state of texas in 2020 were altered because of voter fraud. that's key because the follow-up question is, what are you trying to solve for, what are the policies meant to do and who are they attempting to impact? then here in d.c. you have hr one that passed the house and hr four, the john lewis voting rights act. these plates are meeting in the middle and around the country have 250 bills that are restricting voting rights all over, whether it's voter id laws or changing how people can actually send in their no excuse absentee ballots and all types of things. it's something for black and brown people we know it's going to affect them disproportionately, especially in states like texas because the laws are pointed directly at harris county, which is where houston is. >> i grew up on the san andreas faults but what the plates do is they result in tragic earthquakes. it feels the earthquake here is a pessimistic one. it feels people think the republican legislatures are going to pass restrictions on voting rights based on a lie. what can be done to push back in the other direction? >> first happy st. patrick's day, i'm wearing my detroit irish t-shirt. >> i see it. >> if you're from detroit and you're irish it means you have a chip on each shoulder. >> i remember those chips. >> yes, you do. you deal with facts. let me just -- here's what's amazing about it and it's especially true in texas. in the last 50 years, nicole, there's been around 1,500 proven instances of voter fraud in the last 50 years, out of 3 billion votes cast, 1,500 instances of proven voter fraud in the united states. in the same 50 years, 1.5 million people have died from guns. same 50 years, 1.5 million people. and the republicans and in texas are more interested in putting restrictions and limits on voters than they are interested in putting restrictions and limits on guns, which is an amazing situation to be in right now. and i think, as you've talked about before and as i know you and i have discussed, it's an instance of the republicans do think they're trying to fix a problem. it's not the problem of voter fraud because they know deep down it doesn't really exist and it's not really happened and our election was secure and a record number of people voted. they're trying to fix a political problem. and the political problem here in texas is texas is trending from deep red to light red and it's about to become purple and eventually because of demographics and the position of the republican party it's going to be blue. and the republicans know as texas moves, the only way they can preserve the offices, to me texas is the ball game for our country politically. as soon as texas becomes purple, it changes the nature of everything in the electoral college, in the united states senate and all of that. i think the republicans understand that. they hold every statewide office, 18 offices here, they hold them all, the legislature. they know it's being chipped away by demographics so the goal is to preserve a voting block in the state that is positive for them. they know there's a problem. it's just not voter fraud. >> matthew, you blew my mind. you need to say that one more time. the instances of voter irregularities and fraud and gun violence. >> in the last 50 years there's been 1,500 instances of proven voter fraud out of almost 3 billion votes cast. in the same 50 years there's been 1.5 million deaths by guns. >> it's unbelievable. i want to follow-up with you, matthew, on you know, i spent more time in the republican party than you did. but how do you read this as anything other than a party that has just dramatically and publicly and brazenly broken bad? >> i was thinking about this, and i watched your early segment and the awful stuff that happened in georgia. to me there's no question in my mind that was racially motivated, i don't care about somebody's sex addiction. the guy went to massage pallors run by asian people, not strip joints and the fact that the republicans don't care about any of the white supremacist movement, i was thinking about this, donald trump showed donald trump could behave in any way he wanted, he was basically someone in the military trying to get a section 8 and he was successful. he acted crazy, he was successful. now every other republican sees that he was successful so they're all going for their section 8, which means they're going to act as crazy or crazier as possible. and here in texas, governor abbott has an interest in running for president, which is why he's doing crazy stuff, like trying to restrict voter rights, why ron johnson is doing crazy stuff in wisconsin, because they saw a president succeed in getting a section 8 and they were like if he acted crazy and was successful, i'm going to act even crazier. >> that is exactly where we are. eugene, today on the floor of the senate, senator rafael warnock gave his first speech on the senate floor and it was a rousing call to action around voting rights. what is the hope, the level of optimism that that legislation could in part push back against what's happening in state legislatures. >> it helps when you're a reverend when you hit that senate floor to give one of those rousing speeches. >> it does. >> the more people i talk to, democrats, they're not very optimistic. because you have this filibuster still happening. you have people like kyrsten sinema, joe manchin who don't seem like they're going to budge on reforming the filibuster, even though president biden talked about yesterday he would be open to allow folks to do the talking filibuster. the key is that doesn't automatically change the votes you need to pass bills. so what i continue, and i wrote about earlier this week in playbook, is that black and brown people, and people who work in this space on voting they're going to concentrate on pushing this idea that this is about the voting rights of black and brown people in this country, protect the filibuster they say or you can make sure that black and brown people in this counted are allowed to vote. for democrats it's not just a moral obligation they say, it's also about power because black and brown people in the country can't vote, democrats don't have power. so none of the other things they want to get done, won't matter. infrastructure won't matter because you won't be the president, the house and the senate. it won't matter if you want to do something on climate change because you won't have the presidency, house and senate. so advocates are pushing this. we'll see how long democrats will be able to hold this off, but advocates don't seem to be giving up and they're going to be pushing i think harder than democrats expect at this point. >> can i say one thing, nicole? >> go ahead. >> because it's st. patrick's day and a day us irish celebrate. it's important to reflect this idea of voter restriction has been with us. we all know about jim crow and civil rights and the chinese exclusion act and what's happening to asians. basically every immigrant, including the irish when they came here were confronted with the same thing. voter registration laws were put in place in the 1800s because of the waive of immigrants, they were put in place and the powers that be didn't like they were going to assume they were going to put in powers, it's happened to latinos, blacks, asians, it's happened to just about everyone and everyone in your audience has a link to ancestors. so the idea we're white it's impacting us because we're not in the current cross hairs of it. we've been in the cross hairs in the history of our country. and every time this happens, the only way to succeed is other groups have to join black and brown people and asian people, because we were confronted in years past and the only way we succeeded was we bound together. that's important, i think, to keep in mind. >> always bringing it back to a historical frame. this was a pleasure. can we make this a regular thing, matthew dowd and eugene daniels thank you both very much. happy st. patricks day. welcome to our motley but fun loving family here at msnbc, gene. when we return, there are now two states with more on the way, where every adult can get a coronavirus vaccine, they're all eligible. getting shots into arms quickly is key now that cases are on the rise in former hot spots again. that story is next. spots again that story is next allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst psst you're good to support local restaurants, we've been to every city, including baton rouge... and even topeka. yeah, we're exhausted. whew! so, tonight... i'll be eating the roast beef hero from...parm...in...soho. 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