don't try to impose the fact that the marriage rates were better, higher, i want to be clear, higher in the jim crow era to mean that i think jim crow was great. that's a lie. that is gaslighting. i would never say such a thing, which is why the jim crow era -- >> you brought it up. you brought it up. you're the one who brought it up. let's get one more question. >> you're gaslighting like everyone else is trying to gaslight. >> one more thing. one more thing. one more thing. the poverty rate during jim crow was 55.1%. more than half of families were impoverished. you also said, during jim crow, more black people were not just conservative, black people have always been conservative minded but black people voted conservatively. black people weren't allowed to vote at all during jim crow. >> first of all, there were areas in the united states where black people did vote. >> under jim crow? >> it wasn't universal

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