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Who has to Lobby Congress and u. S. Allies plus manage strained relationship with his boss. Our Elizabeth Palmer is in take ran and spoke with Iranian Foreign minister. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also joins us. South republican senator Lindsey Graham will be here as well as astro not scott kelly whose book is about the ups and downs of being in space. All ahead on face the nation. Good morning, welcome to face the nation im john dickerson. President trumps threat to pull out Iran Nuclear Deal and International Agreement made two years ago with iran and five other countries unlessee ran meets certain new conditions, has sent shock waves around the world. Well marry from all side but we start with secretary of state, Rex Tillerson. Welcome, mr. Secretary. He said that you didnt give the iranians a head up, why not. We had an exchange on the margins of the u. N. General Assembly Meeting he had a good sense of where this decision would likely go. But we did speak with all the other signatories to the joint Commission Plan of action, Iran Nuclear Agreement to ensure that they understood exactly the decision the president was taking. Dickerson if youre trying to get iran to change and agree to some new terms or maybe youre not, why not talk to him . You know how these negotiations work. I think the time will come when we do need to engage with iran. We want tone sure, though, that our friend and allies and other parties to the Nuclear Agreement have great clarity around the president s policy which is far beyond just the Nuclear Agreement. This iran policy really has three important elements to it and the president outlined all of those in his speech. One of the unfortunate aspects of our relations with iran over the last several years has been to find almost entirely by this Nuclear Agreement to the exclusion of so many other issues that we need to deal with, with iran. Part of this conversation is to deal with the Nuclear Arrangement but also deal with the broader issues that concern us. Dickerson with the european allies, the other signatories, but they say you do in two different parts. The way we did with soviets, negotiate on nuclear, lock in games there then work on the other things. Passed sanctions against iran over the summer. You work that other channel but dont jeopardize what youve got locked in on this agreement. Why are they wrong . Well, theyre not wrong. In fact thats exactly what the president s decision i think reflects is that the president has said, were going to decertify under the iranian review act, this is a domestic law, not decertification under the Nuclear Agreement that involves the multilateral parties but he is i think to iran and other partners there are serious flaws in this agreement. Everyone acknowledges that. He would like to get congress to give us their sense of this issue so we have a strong voice, a strong unified voice once and for all representing the american position which then allows us to engage with friends and allies and other signatories around how do we address these gaps and threes flaws in this Nuclear Agreement. Dickerson if congress doesnt act, dont get the 60 votes, what happens . Is that what the president was saying . There are three options now that congress has. Congress can do nothing in which case everything maintains its status quo, it will be up to the president then to decide how does he want to motivate addressing the gaps in this issue. As weve discussed this under the jcpon the Nuclear Agreement may be that were not able to reopen that agreement with everyone being willing to play but it doesnt mean we cannot undertake negotiations to address areas of concern which are the Ballistic Missile program, the sunset provisions, expired provisions, perhaps lay second agreement down alongside of this agreement. Dickerson youd keep the original. What im trying to fix on here sounded like the end of his remarks he said a hamster going to come down if theres no action from congress this First Agreement is done, u. S. Is out. Is that a misunderstanding or is that the message . I think the president is being very clear, not just to the congress but being very clear to iran, to the other signa for rees of the agreement as well. That if we cannot see movement, if we dont see some encourage. That were going to address these then theres no reason to stay in. He has every intention of walking out. Dickerson what message did this send to the nor koreans, youre in the middle of trying to get them to the table, they look at this, they looked at the libya example where lib gentleman gave up, why arent they going to think im not going to engage with somebody who will change their mind. Would be rich to take that position. We had a similar agreement in place where North Koreans buck in the 19 0s look exactly like if iranian agreement. You can see what its led. To where we find ourselves today. The message to the North Koreans is, we have a policy towards north Koreas Nuclear program, the same as chinese, same as the russians, same as the regional players, there will be denyinglized korean peninsula. Any agreement with the North Koreans is going to be very different agreement than the kind that weve dealing with with iran. Dickerson they argued that congress undercut the agreement. Let me ask you about north korea they did not test a missile on the 10th of october, is that a big signal . Well wait and see. I think that was a big anniversary date for them, we know we had the Chinese Party congress about to get underway this week, there are any number of events in the past they have undertaken some type of provocative act. Well watch, well wait, well see. We also listen to their public pronouncements as well. Dickerson let me ask you about your relationship with the president , lot of talk about it. Senator bob corker, president of the Foreign Relations committee, somebody youre working with on the iran agreement not a person known for saying just anything that comes into his head. Has said two things, last week he said that you were not being supported in the way that he hoped secretary of state would be supported. This week he put a finer point said youre being publicly castrated by the president. What is going on here . Well, i think the the way the president operates in terms of causing action under his Foreign Policy decisions, also his domestic policy decisions, some times people have a there r they ever challenged. When i comes to north korean policy or whether comes with iranian policy or recent south asian policy there is absolute alignment between the state department, the other departments in the cabinet and the president s objectives. The president is very unconventional person as we all know in terms of how he communicates, how he likes to create action forcing events. The president often takes steps to force an action when he feels things are just not moving. Dickerson what senator corker saying that action forcing events comes at your expense when youre trying to deal with other countries and they see you being undermined is corker totally off base sneer. What i would say with respect to the example you gave with the chinese, we have very, very good communication, open channels with the president. President has a great relationship with the president , i have a great relationship with the state counselor, there is a clarity around what we are attempting to do with north korea and working with china to achieve the outcome of north korea that we all want. Theres no confusion among the people that matter. Dickerson cork is he confused about how this work . The appearance much it certainly looks like theres sometimes disunity. Every lot of work on our part to coordinate these efforts so that we are clearly driving toward the objective which is denying rised north korea. If people on the outside need to speak for the president , there are also people nervous about everything that is happening in the world they want the president to get clear advice from his advisor they dont want fight in the dug out are you able to tell the president what is on your mind have the president listen to you and maybe change his mind . One of the relationship issues i value is that the president wants to know what i think. And so i always present my view of that and sometimes thats a view. President listens to all that have, takes all that information in, sometimes involves numerous conversations, for him to come to which i think is a very appropriate way to proceed on issues that are as important as these. But i have complete freedom to express my views to the president and he listens to those views. Dickerson change his mind . We dont agree on everything. Yes, sometimes he changes his mind. And whatever he decides, though, hes the president of the United States, i will work as hard as i can to implement his decisions successfully. Dickerson does he believe youre wasting your time talking with trying to talk with north korea, what he said, i should say. He supports our diplomatic efforts. Were going to maintain those as i have commented to others. Our diplomat i can efforts will continue until the first bomb is dropped. Dickerson the other alternative is that youre playing good develop bad cop. That youre the good cop, the president is being the bad cop thats a strategy, but isnt it a little dangerous when youre doing with north korea. Not one were going to share with anyone. As the president has said. No intention to signal to people what his next step will be, hes not going to give them advance warning of what his next action will be. I think that makes it very effective. Dickerson mr. Secretary, thanks for being with us. My pleasure, john. Dickerson we turn now to cbs news correspondent elizabeth palm who are is in take ran spoke exclusively saturday with irans top diplomat, foreign minister muhammad zarif. We were invited to the Foreign Ministry here in take ran where dr. Zarif underlined five other countries besides u. S. Has signed the Iranian Nuclear deal. No plat matter what the white house did, all five remain firmly committed to it. This is not a bilateral treaty between iran are and United States. Whatever domestic politic he wants to do, thats his business. The United States is member of the security. If its not going to uphold a resolution that not only voted for it but, then credibility of the institution that the United States considers to be very important. Nobody else would trust any u. S. Administration to engage in any longterm negotiation because the length of any commitment from now on with any u. S. Administration would be reminder of the term that have president. Are you thinking of any kind of country in particular right now . Im thinking of the entire not north korea . Well, including north korea. But the entire International Community. You see this administration is withdrawing from everything. Somebody called it the doctrine for this administration, withdrawing from nafta, withdrawing from transpacific partnership. Withdrawing from everything. So people cannot trust any more the word of the United States. You see in order to bring United States on board on many of these International Agreements, a lot of people make a lot of concessions. Nobody is going to make any concessions with the United States because they know that the next president will come back say it wasnt enough. Let us say that donald trump eventually does pull the u. S. Out of the agreement unilaterally. Will you stay in with the europeans, russia and china and make it work with them alone . If one party withdrawals from the deal, particularly the United States, and starts impacting the most important elements of the deal then iran will decide. Youre not going to commit now to staying in if the u. S. Pulls we have committed ourselves not to be the first party to withdraw from this. But thats it . Provided that our economic dividend that have been enshrined in this deal are respected and iran continues to receive those dividends. Once iran does not receive those dividend then it will be totally different situation. Secretary red tillerson called around late in the day yesterday to give various allies and World Leaders a heads up about what was to come, did he call you . No. I wasnt expected you didnt expect him to. Not even as a courtesy . Not much courtesy left in the United States treats the rest of the world. You are a partner with the United States and other countries in this deal now that implies a huge amount of diplomatic engagement. Why doesnt that give you the privilege to talk to the secretary of state directly . Well, i think thats decision that the United States you did it with john kerry. We certainly did. It produced a lot of results. It produced a lot of positive results. Averted some nasty scenarios but this administration has decided to play in a totally different manner and i can assure you that iranian dignity and pride will not allow us to engage when Mutual Respect and equal footing are not respected by one party. Have you spoken to the Supreme Leader since President Trumps speech . Its been very spoke last night and we know his views about it. We had briefed about what he was going to say. What was his reaction. Pretty much everybody knew. He says, i expected it. There was a little bit of, i told you so. Because he had been against the deal from the beginning, he has never trusted the United States, you see, i was right none of us ever trusted the United States. It was based on mutual mistrust. I think that was the strength of this deal not something bad about the deal its the strength of the deal but unfortunately the way President Trump is handling it, its distrust. Not only between iran and United States but between the Global Community and the United States whether u. S. Is no longer not just unpredictable but unreliable. Have you given up for the moment on trying to establish better relations with the Trump Administration to try and dial back the rhetoric . Well, i believe the Trump Administration is closing its eyes on the realities of our region. And its getting into a quagmire that would harm u. S. National interests and would harm because of the significance of the United States as a Global Player will harm our region. We believe it would be important for the United States for the Trump Administration to exercise a reset in its cognitive disorder with regard to our region. With such huge implication for everything from irans economy to its National Security, you know that all eyes in the iranian government are now fixed on the u. S. Congress, john . Thanks, liz. We turn now to sec republican Lindsey Graham. Start with the iran question, are there enough votes there to get this amendment to the iran deal . I hope so. Id hate to be democrat defending the sunset clause. Hundred agreement after 15 years of the iranians can do anything they want in terms of enrichment and reprocessing, doesnt matter if they are still the largest state sponsor of terrorism or building our cbms with death to israel on the weapon under mere passage of time they dock whatever they want to with enrichment. Democrats will have hard time justifying denying inspections of military bases. Dickerson here is how they would justify it. They would say that in fact the sunset provisions are stacked so that they cant move right to a Nuclear Weapon and that if they started to inspectors watching the International Community would be one them right away where as what the president is offering is getting out of an agreement that was worked with patiently with the International Community and actually is a step backwards. The president ran on the idea this is ad with deal for america, he won. He fulfilling a Campaign Promise. This is a terrible deal. The arabs dont like it, israelis dont like it. The sunset clause with all due respect there is no limitation on centrifuge reprocessing and enrichment. There is no requirement that they stop marching towards a p. M. With mere massage of time they can do anything they want. To and you cant go on military bases because iranians say we cant. Theyre doing testing i will violation of u. N. Resolutions. They hijacked americans on the high seas, still largest state sponsor of terrorism to those who said this deal would make iran a better member of the family of nations it was a miserable failure. Dickerson theres debate about, you dont just need centrifuges those of longer sunset is a good deal, i dont. Dickerson let me ask you this about senate colleague, senator corker, he has sketched a view of the administration, do you agree with it . Yes, i like what corker are doing. They are saying were going to put triggers in. Congress is going to say to the iranians if you ever try to get within a year of a break out time less than a year were going to reimpose sanctions, were going to look at your Missile Program anew, inspect anyway, dont allow us well impose sanctions if youre still sponsoring terrorism down the road well reimpose. Dickerson also a view about secretary of state says the president is castrating him . No, i dont agree with that. Dickerson unpatriotic in suggesting that case . Bob corkier . Dickerson yeah. I think hes wrong. I like one corker, breaks my heart that hes leaving hes one of the most valuable members. He and the president have gotten into this twitter war, at the end of the day i played golf with the president yesterday hes not a man under siege, he beat me again like a drum. We had a good time. Hes hell bent on getting a better deal. He promised to tear it up, decided not to tear it up but decertify which i think hes right to do and push the world and congress get better deal before its too late. Dickerson this is a Foreign Relations chairman making claim of the president his ability to be convinced by his National Security. President could fix that if senator corker thinks that Rex Tillerson is being castrated the president has the power to do that. I think secretary tillerson gave a good overview of the relationship. Im not here to beat up on bob im here to tell that you the president has changed his opinions when it came to afghanistan by listening to the best National Security team ive seen in 20 years. Secretary tillerson is serving the president well. But the people around the president are the smartest guys ive seen and gallons on National Security since ive been in town hes adjusting his policies on afghanistan, hes keeping his promise to try to get a better deal with the iranians and finally putting north korea on notice that the policy of the United States is changing. Dickerson well hold there for a moment we will be back in a minute with more from senator graham. Even a swing set standoff. And we covered it, july first, twentyfifteen. Talk to farmers. We know a thing or two because weve seen a thing or two. We are farmers. Bumpadum, bumbumbumbum retail. Under pressure like never before. And its connected technology thats moving companies forward fast. Ecommerce. Real time inventory. 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The president is not going to continue to throw good money after bad give 7 billion to Insurance Companies unless something changes about obamacare that would justify it. He did talk to senator alexander yesterday, hes encouraging him to get a bipartisan deal that would have flexibility to title one mandates for continued payment. Its got to be a good deal. Dickerson the president has put a lot on congress plate. Dreamers, budget passed to set up tax reform are you going to get tax reform done . If we dont youre dead. Ill ask myself whats going on . Its a symptom of greater problem if we dont cut tax and dont eventually repeal and replace obamacare then were going to lose across the board the house in 2018. All of my colleagues running in 2018 will probably get beat, will be the end of mitch mock channel as we know it. That is a symptom of greater problems f. We do cut taxes and repeal and replace obamacare it doesnt matter what bannon do because well win. 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I think president was very courageous in saying, im not going to kick this can down the road im not going to say well its going to be on somebody elses watch im going to stop this from happening because, remember, we cannot allow iran the worlds foremost terrorist regime that protesters and aggression throughout the region and the world. We cannot allow this rogue regime 30 times the size of the north koreas economy to have Nuclear Arsenal. The very brave decision, i think its the right decision for the world. Dickerson to get the leverage that would be required to get what you want, iran has to be isolated by the World Community and split at home, hasnt the president s view based on ally reaction united the allies that were a part of this deal against what President Trump system doing . Well, they say that they want to keep the deal and the president has said correctly, either fix it or nix it. Either change it or cancel it . If they want to save the deal then the european allies should start working with the United States to actually correct its deficiencies, there are many. They have to very clear they have to be changed and its an opportunity that President Trump has created for them to fix this very bad deal which is dangerous for them no less than it is for others. Dickerson but they believe that changing the deal basically breaks the deal. No, in fact if you dont change it, you break it thats what the president told them if they dont change it, if they dont fix it if they dont prevent iran from automatically getting in a decade to a Nuclear Arsenal then hell change hell cancel the deal. I think that once they realize that this is the american position they should join forces with the United States and with the president and work to change us. By the way, you should know that in the middle east something very historic is happening. I mean, its not just israel that is supporting the president. Its key arab states like saudi arabia and emirates, when israel and key arab states agree on something, you should Pay Attention. Were close with our ears to the ground we live right here next to iran, we see what its doing. I think that what the president has done has created now space to prevent a very bad deal from materializing and to fix it. Everybody should join forces in doing just that. Dickerson whats your response to those including the signatories to this agreement what say that iran has been abiding by the agreement and that while ten years is a deadline you pick, that in fact there are longer deadlines where iran will be monitored and if they break and try to move back to a Nuclear Capability the entire world will see and jump on them right away. John, ive always said that the greatest danger of this deal is not that iran will violate it, but that iran will keep it. Because under the deal in a few years time iran is guaranteed to have as many as 100 nuclear bombs. Thats folly. And kicking the can down the road is not wise policy. So, whether or not they keep it or violate it is not the point. The point is they have a highway right now, assuming they keep the deal, to get to that point where they become a terrorist rogue regime with a vast Nuclear Arsenal. That really has to be stopped and i dont think the issue right now is whether they keep it or whether they violate it. The issue right now weve got to change the destination to which they are. Dickerson the sporers of the deal dispute your characterization ever their ability to get those bombs. But let me ask you about this scenario which is, what if iran looks at what President Trump has done and says, okay, no deal. Were going to go back to the full sprint to Nuclear Program and blame the u. S. President for breaking the agreement. They could have done that right from the start they could have rushed to the bomb. They never wanted to do that, because theres always been a combination of the threat of credible military response, which by the way we put forward. We didnt need others. And equally crippling sanction. I stood in the u. N. A new years ago i drew that red line thats before the deal. They didnt cross it. Because they n knew what the stakes are. Iran today knows that if they do what you just said theyre going to get crippling sanctions, the u. S. Alone can do that. The u. S. Is a very powerful economy. Its almost a 20 trillion economy. Iranian economy is 2 of that. When you think of countries have to choose between the u. S. Economy and iranian economy, what hill they choose . Thats a no brainer. Iran faces crip elk sanctions by the u. S. Alone let alone the u. S. With its allies. I think theyre going to think twice. Dickerson mr. Prime minister thanks for being with us. Thank you. Dickerson this week, President Trump suggested comparing his iq to that of his secretary of state, Rex Tillerson. He was responding to the report disputed throughout the Administration Tillerson has called him a moron. But an iq test is not the test we want our president to ace. The better measure of president ial greatness is emotional intelligence, eq as it is called, the ability to understand and regulate your emotions and read the emotions of those around you. In president s, it is a part of temperament and encompass restraint, equilibrium and grace under pressure its what lincoln had. Justice holmes said of fdr he had a second class intellect but first class temperament. That week is the 55th anniversary of the one greatest tests of president ial temperament. The cuban missile crisis. When the soviet union put Nuclear Weapons from the coast. One of the most dangerous moments in president ial history. President ial temperament and eq is tested every day in ways little and small. In the way a president reacts to slits and to other countries. On the big test of president ial temperament like north korea its a test were all taking along with him. Back in a moment. Everybody two seconds dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance. Through the Tuition Assistance program, every day mcdonalds helps more people go to college. Its part of our commitment to being americas best first job. saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico. Goin up the country. Later, gary i have a motorcycle wonderful. Im goin up the country, baby dont you wanna go . Im goin up the country, baby dont you wanna go . Geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. Dickerson turning now to political analysis, molly ball dickerson turning now to what has been at the atlantic for six years was named National Political correspondent for time magazine. Shell move over there at the end of the month, congratulations, molly. David ignatious the columnist with the Washington Post and Jenna Goldberg senior editor. David, start with you before we move on to the iran deal these comments by senator corker about the is extraordinary what do you make of it . They are critical in way of comments about the secretary, i cant remember anything quite like it. What we saw with secretary tillerson just now is that he can take a punch, he is an unflappable guy. Sat here, you asked him about comment that hed been castrated he looked back said, this is a president who is unconventional. He likes action forcing events. He clearly gets the way the president operates and hes decided he can live within that, those constraints. To be secretary of state and go around the world talking to foreign leaders when its been asserted by the leading senator that youve been castrated not an easy challenge. But we saw the secretary of state who clearly is ready to keep doing that. Dickerson molly, on the hill, not everybody rushed to corkers side but also didnt denounce him really much either. What is this a moment and were going to move on sore thi . For one thing i mean senator corker only said out loud only a lot of people already thought we could see publicly with the undercutting of the secretary of state. By the president ful. You had him here just few minutes ago saying you, yes, i dont know what hes going to do from one minute to the next either. And thats just the way things are. But you are seeing now in moments like thetive with corker, that the republicans are not afraid of trump any more. And that the relationship is so badly broken between trump and capitol hill that i dont know that theres any repairing it unless they can find a way to actually get something done and senator graham was saying, but republicans on the hill have been bashed by the president , perhaps deservingly. They have not they dont have a lot to fall back on in terms of accomplishments so theyre not super pleased with him. Dickerson do you think the president can fix this, jonah . Well, i dont think he thinks as much to fix, i think hes what, 71 years old, hes not going to change, this is who he is. One of the things that washington still grappling with is we all like to think of the president as the boss, right . Thats his role, the boss. Hes also broken the blood brain barrier between reality show culture, tv culture and politics and hes also the talent. And as you may know in this business some people on tv who have very High Expectations about green m ms and everybody has to be the right way he wants to be treated like the talent not just the boss. And thats very difficult to do in politics. Thats why we keep having these sort of eruptions, this corker episode is not the last one and it wasnt the first one. Its going to be going on thats the trump show. Dickerson david, what do you think about this idea of Good Cop Bad Cop . One of the criticisms he undermines secretary tillerson on north korea saying youre wasting your time, rex, on the other hand, isnt there way which that could help the secretary of state ive got president here who thinks im wasting my time, you better prove hes better to do military action. It may than this disruptive destabilizing bad cop, this temperamental president gives you some Maneuvering Room with china. I think it probably is true that the chinese have been destabilized by this president and that they have opened up some space, theyre more cooperative on north korea than they have been previously. And the president clearly is hoping as he gets ready to go to china next month that hes going to get help from north korea. Is it helping with north korea itself . How does it affect king jongun, this very irrational north korean leader. There you have to really worry that getting in this tit for tat this playground argument a guy who is speeding to have Nuclear Capability, is not a good idea. That is not what a careful steward of American Security would do. I think thats one of the things thats warning people around town. I hear lots of credit for the president s policies on china and the kind of bad cop side of that. Not on north korea. Dickerson what do you make of the iranian decision by the president and where do we go from here . First of all, i thought it was a terrible deal. I thought it was structured in a way that was reward for iran put them on as senator graham put them on a path to a bomb. I think donald trump has i think hes absolutely right on this in that sending that to congress is a middle ground position. Hes not pulling out of the treaty not even a treaty which was one of my problems with it. I did enjoy the interview with the Iranian Foreign minister who first of all seemed very concerned about americas reputation in the world which is very considerate of them. And i love the idea that they were worrying about americas credibility in the u. N. And how outrageous it is for america to violate u. N. Resolutions. Iran violates u. N. Resolutions daily. It is doing it right now, violated 2231. Its arming hose which its not allowed to do. And the idea that somehow iran can somehow take the high road in all this is ridiculous. Dickerson molly, clearly senator graham was working jonahs point you want to defend an agreement with them, theyre doing all of these bad thing, he thinks he can get 60 votes for something out of the senate what do you think . He also said that trump is keeping a Campaign Promise i think thats what mattered to the president. I think hes clearly frustrated that he hasnt been able to get more done, particularly through the congress and he wants to keep some of those promises that lot of his supporters are being frustrated are getting frustrated arent being kept. Remind me during much of what he did on daca to find way to thread the needle between, if i change the status quo people will be mad. But if i dont, the people who wanted me to challenge the status quo, people who wanted me disruptive, people who some of the trump voters i spoke to wasnt a particular ideology just wanted to see somebody break through the gridlock and get something done. The problem is, when you have an administration and party that are divided on these issues, warring factions, a president who has no particular ideological center, he doesnt give he doesnt lead them in a particular direction and so you end up with these on the one hand, on the other hand situation with status quo is maintained. Dickerson can the needle be thread here which is essentially keep the deal but change the deal in congress . Most analysts think that it will not be possible to get iran to agree to change. They will not reopen the deal. I think were heading into a period in which the agreement and all the issues that surround it will be in limbo. I think theres a real question about whether that is in americas or israels security interest. This was something that was locked down. Tear be thought in 15 years but right now its pretty much locked down. Lot of issues now are open. The needle threading will be working with congress to adopt things that would apply to u. S. Policy but wouldnt go to the deal itself. I think he probably will get away with those. If i heard Iranian Foreign minister right he was saying we will not be the first to withdraw from this deal. So if you dont do things that actually are in violation of the deal, its probably in our interest to stick with it. What im hearing from europeans genuine unhappiness about this. They want the United States to be sort of north star of Foreign Policy they find us very erratic, i think theyre genuinely upset. Anyone in the administration will think, well get the french, i dont hear that. Dickerson let me switch to domestic politics. Effective week or undoing pillars of the obama, not legacy not only Affordable Care act but clean power act. What did you make of this week, particularly with respect to healthcare and what the president is trying to do . I think what the president is doing or what administration is doing is reacting to the fact that as Lindsey Graham, congress cant get anything done. Drum system trying to accumulate a record of talking points about things that he has gotten done. I think hes on this, too, administration is on the right side of the argument on health care thing, these payments were rendered ruled illegal by a court and the problem, this is the problem, trump for good or ill is shoving all this stuff on congress as article one guy i think thats great f. I Want Congress to step up the first branch of government its not stepping up. That dysfunction empowers people like steve bannon and others to basically tear apart the republican party. If congress doesnt start getting things done i do think it could see disillusion of the republican party. Already split into three parties as we speak. Dickerson quickly, retiring republican from pennsylvania said that now President Trump owns health care as an issue, cant blame obama any more do you think that is right and will that play out politically . It appears to be the case in polls, it played out for president obama in the 2010 mid term, was the dominant issue, it hasnt been implemented yet at all, people blamed the administration and power anything they didnt like that was a big political reason that democrats got in the president s word shellacked. This is a tricky issue, tough issue, trump is not wrong when he says republicans spent seven years promising to do this and nothing on his desk when he got there, yeah, i think they all own it. Dickerson there we go. Thats the end of our conversation. Coming up next, last time he was on face the nation he joined froes the surface of the earth after not scott kelly will be with us in a moment. After 8 years of chris christie, is kim guadagno the change new jersey really needs . Guadagno is christies handpicked successor. Says shes proud to be part of the christie administration. Guadagno was Chris Christies right hand as our schools came under attack, Critical Services were underfunded, and our Credit Rating was downgraded. 11 times. From the bridge to the beach, weve seen it all, and weve had enough. Kim guadagno isnt the change we need. Dickerson were back with captain scott kelly who is on the ground in new york. The subject of his new book endurance is the year he spent in space. Captain kelly, were very glad to have you with us. You write in your book that you were a below average guy stepping in an above average role. Is that modest tee or is that hope for the rest of us . Its both and the truth. This kid that couldnt Pay Attention in school growing up up if if i was in school today id be probably diagnosed with a. D. D. Or adhd it wasnt easy for me as a kid until i found some inspiration. Dickerson do you think that fact that it wasnt easy actually was helpful in terms of one of the word we hear a lot these days which is developing grit . Well, its certainly allowed me to develop a sense of endurance and i think its one of the reasons why i showed thae is that, you know, it wasnt easy it was the wrong path for me to go from struggling student in school to astronaut that spent the year in space. Dickerson when you were up there endurance sounds like a constant slog, was it any fun . It was a plot of fun. And rewarding, challenging, really hard work and a privilege to be able to serve my country as an astronaut and a at nasa for 20 years. Dickerson how long after you came back did it take when you could wake up and not think, oh, im back on the planet earth again . You know, it took only a few days, but there were a lot of other lingering effects of being in space. Most of them were gone after a couple of months, but i think it took probably about eight months until i felt completely back to normal. Dickerson what do you miss from your time up there . I miss the work. Its very challenging technically challenging and exacting work, something i believe greatly in. I miss the people. My crew mates that i was up there with they were all great and even though theyre all back on earth i dont get to see them as much any more. Dickerson you grew up during the cold war, some of your mates were russians, what was that like . They were great colleagues and partners. They have a really fond memories of my time, ive spent in russia and my crew mates, even though at times our countries can be in conflict, at odds over things, we on the space station have to get along very well because we literally depend on each other for our lives. Dickerson one of the things did you while ump up there was take space walks. What is that process like . It looks on the one hand fun but im guessing its quite tense, too. Its the type two kind of fun. Type one fun is the roller coaster, type two fun is the stuff thats really, really hard and challenging but its fun when youre finished with it. You feel very satisfied and accomplished. Same time, really incredible experience to be outside a spacecraft doing work on behalf of nasa and our country. Dickerson based on your experience, what are your thoughts about sending astronauts in space for mission to mars which would require an extended period of time . Well, id volunteer to do it if that opportunity presented itself. I think its something that we should do. I think were capable of getting there. The challenge is having the right Political Support and the money to go and do it. Dickerson you were in a sense a guinea pig for this trip and studying your body in the way it changed, what did you learn that will be helpful for that trip to mars . There was a lot of science based on me and my russian colleague, micha, being in space for a year but there was also science done on my brother and i with this twin study. A lot of the results i think will help us go to mars, there are a lot of negative things happened to our physiology from being in space for long periods of time. And those are the challenges we have to continue to work on and figure out if were going to have people spend much longer in space than we currently have. Dickerson are they surmountable challenges or do you discover something in terms of the physiology that really made it tough not to crack . I think theyre solvable, we have challenges with the human physiology but also the technical challenges of building a spacecraft and supporting the crew for a real long time. But ill steal a phrase from my brother that he often says, getting to mars not about Rocket Science its about Political Science and the support and money to do it. Dickerson all right, captain kelly, thanks so much for being with us. If you want to hear more from scott kelly he will join our colleague in studio 57 on cbs this morning tomorrow and well be back in a moment. Dickerson thats it for us today. Thanks for watching. Until next week for face the nation im john dickerson. Captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by Media Access Group at wgbh access. Wgbh. Org do your research. Nd. Find the best fit. Why not do the same for your Prescription Drug plan . At silverscript, were experts in Medicare Part d. And 5 million people, just like you, trust us every day. With no deductible and lower monthly premiums, we could help you save money and get better coverage on thousands of prescriptions. So take a closer look at silverscript. We think youll like what you see. Announcer the following paid presentation for the power airfryer xl is brought to you by Tristar Products incorporated. We love fried food. 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